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Found one negative about the N4s screen!

I'm a little sick right now. On accident I slid my phone on its screen on a very smooth table and I now have scratches everywhere. All on the corners and a ton on the bottom by the touch buttons. At least the good thing is you can't see it unless in the light. But its pretty obvious. And of course I have slight OCD so this is bothering the **** out of me lol. They almost look like big scuffs all over.
Edit**: I just wanted to update you guys and say that now that I've gotten used to it its not so bad. Yes it still bothers me a lot but the good thing is you can't see them unless under a light or outside. So on usual use you can't see them.
Also to all the idiots who think I'm stupid or something. 1. Yes I do know gorilla glass scratches easier 2. Do you idiots really think I just slide my phones around on their screens on purpose or something?? Its called an accident 3. Stop jumping to conclusion saying how stupid this thread is, it was mainly for the people just getting their nexus 4s and telling them to be careful with the screen so they dont make my mistakes.
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Most if not ALL surfaces have some form of dust/sand particles on it. Sand scratches glass no matter how "tough" it claims to be!
/end of thread

Gorilla glass 2 just means it's a thinner protective layer compared to the last generation, not twice (2) as thick nor protective.

Sorry to hear bud. At least you didn't claim they came from "nowhere" like half the other threads like this one. Props to you sir.

shotta35 said:
Most if not ALL surfaces have some form of dust/sand particles on it. Sand scratches glass no matter how "tough" it claims to be!
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Just a side note, apparently Sand is tough enough to grind down granite. This is because of small but tough grain in sand (sand has several components to it).

Skilzdatkilz21 said:
I am so pissed off right now. On accident I slid my phone on its screen on a very smooth table and I now have scratches everywhere. All on the corners and a ton on the bottom by the touch buttons. At least the good thing is you can't see it unless in the light. But its pretty obvious. And of course I have slight OCD so this is bothering the **** out of me. They almost look like big scuffs all over.
I can't post pictures right now but I will when I get home.
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I'm pretty sure that most of the ppl here knows that Gorilla Glass, no matter what version, isn't scratch proof.

That isn't really a negative for the N4. You basically let your phone's screen nakedly rub against a surface (very smooth or not). Do it with any phone and you'll probably get the same results.

rskyline said:
I'm pretty sure that most of the ppl here knows that Gorilla Glass, no matter what version, isn't scratch proof.
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i learned that lesson with my scratched (gorilla glass) asus transformer.
on my n4 now i have a screen protector on the front and a slim hard shell on the back, with a slight lip that keeps the front screen above surfaces if placed on its front. I've also drilled a couple of mounting holes in the case for a wrist strap.
belt + braces!

delete.

Flat glass against flat glass is a formula for disaster. With no air between the two surfaces, the smallest imperfections like dust will scratch the hell out of your screen.

I have this on my galaxy s3 and my galaxy nexus, when I sell it on eBay I'll be letting people know about it but I feel they won't understand just how small the scratches are.
For my nexus 4 I've already got a screen protector and a back skin because of this same problem.
It sucks.... I feel your pain brother.
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Skilzdatkilz21 said:
I am so pissed off right now. On accident I slid my phone on its screen on a very smooth table and I now have scratches everywhere. All on the corners and a ton on the bottom by the touch buttons. At least the good thing is you can't see it unless in the light. But its pretty obvious. And of course I have slight OCD so this is bothering the **** out of me. They almost look like big scuffs all over.
I can't post pictures right now but I will when I get home.
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That's not a negative. That's just you being careless.

Sorry to hear this. I too am pretty OCD about my devices. I love the look and feel of my N4 without cases and screen protectors, so this is of course a nightmare for most of us. I'm just glad to read that you're not one of the many users who thinks that just because someone puts the word "Gorilla" in front of another word must automatically mean its the most durable thing on the planet. I dare some of those people to go kick a set of gorilla balls and see how durable they are.
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I go crazy over scratches too! I stuck with the factory protector until I bought the SGP protector. Feels just like glass and you can't even tell it's on the Nexus 4.

I honestly don't get why people are getting so pissed off. All this post was to show people my experience. Also a way to warn people about the screen. It was to tell everyone and warn them about my mistake and be careful about it.
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theabsurdman said:
i learned that lesson with my scratched (gorilla glass) asus transformer.
on my n4 now i have a screen protector on the front and a slim hard shell on the back, with a slight lip that keeps the front screen above surfaces if placed on its front. I've also drilled a couple of mounting holes in the case for a wrist strap.
belt + braces!
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Sound like you prepping your Nexus 4 for war, bro.
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theabsurdman said:
i learned that lesson with my scratched (gorilla glass) asus transformer.
on my n4 now i have a screen protector on the front and a slim hard shell on the back, with a slight lip that keeps the front screen above surfaces if placed on its front. I've also drilled a couple of mounting holes in the case for a wrist strap.
belt + braces!
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Skilzdatkilz21 said:
I honestly don't get why people are getting so pissed off. All this post was to show people my experience. Also a way to warn people about the screen. It was to tell everyone and warn them about my mistake and be careful about it.
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Pretty sure most people don't place their phone screen side down on a table or any other surface.

Yea.. I just keep all my phones on a rubber place mat on my desk..

Skilzdatkilz21 said:
I honestly don't get why people are getting so pissed off. All this post was to show people my experience. Also a way to warn people about the screen. It was to tell everyone and warn them about my mistake and be careful about it.
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Ignore the critics mate.
I did this early on with my s2 and was gutted. Seems the glass in whatever form has a long way to go before it can resist sand and general grit.
I hate cases, bumpers, screen protectors, skins blah blah but when I get a new device always buy loads.. Sad thing is novelty wears off and in 3 months it'll have none of the above on it and I'll have fallen into my bad ways of keeping it in a pocket with change or keys etc!
Moral of the story - what seems bad now you'll get used to and start to ignore! Doesn't make it a huge bummer tho.
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Sand is powerful!! Lol.. Anyway thanks for reminding us though..
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Will never understand why people don't use screen protectors and cases for their phones.

Smooth, curved edges of front glass gone?

Judging by the recently leaked press shots it appears as if the smooth curve of the side edges of glass as found on the Nexus 4 is gone.
The face seems perfectly flat with an equal edge all around.
Personally I liked how easy it was to sideswipe across those smooth edges.
Going back to a flat face seems somewhat backwards...

You're kidding right? Why in the hell did you need to start a new thread for this? This place is riddled with useless points we don't need useless threads to be added. Its getting so tiring....
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javskies said:
You're kidding right? Why in the hell did you need to start a new thread for this? This place is riddled with useless points we don't need useless threads to be added. Its getting so tiring....
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There really aren't many threads in this section, and I don't consider this one useless because he raises a good point. It may have been discussed in another thread, but some of them are over a hundred pages long...
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Yea to be fair I don't remember seeing this topic brought up much in any of the threads and I have read them all.

It's actually a good question N4 edges are REALLY smooth and I hope N5 will feature the same!

the thing is the phone is not even out so there really isnt anything to compare because we dont know how its going to feel in hand. its just gonna be a thread of how people want the nexus feel, which we already have a thread for. these threads need to be held of til more info is actually released from Google and reviewers is all im saying.

Looks like it's gone indeed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg6IFhOBpq0
Maybe it was too difficult/expensive to manufacture? The LG G2 also looks like it has a normal flat screen, as far as i remember.

Maybe something to do with the new gorilla glass 3 being present (if this is true).
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May have something to do with the practical. How many people knocked the nexus 4 for having a glass back and screen that easily cracks? A screen that slopes of at the edges is more likely hit glass if it falls. So they got rid of the glass back and better protect the screen. Just a thought.
But I think manufacturing costs probably are the biggest driver in nexus devices.

I'm going to contribute to the clueless guessing game and add that it's probably gone due to the very narrow bezel design. I prefer a larger screen in a smaller case.

philipdeane said:
Maybe something to do with the new gorilla glass 3 being present (if this is true).
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I also wonder if gorilla glass 3 is used on the n5, not like fragile one used on the n4. And I do hope the curved edges are gone. It was impossible to keep a screen protector on with those curved edges, specially with a case.
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What are your thoughts on the Note 4's Build Quality?

I finally got my hands on a demo unit of the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 yesterday at the T-Mobile Store near the airport and was amazed of how the device felt in the hand. A lot superior than Apple's iPhone 6 Plus. My eyes couldn't ignore the detail of 5.7" display and all round metal frame. Very refined look. Samsung has come a long way; now only if they could consolidate themselves and keep up a job well done.
What are your thoughts on the Note 4's Build Quality compared to previous Note Series Models?

Never had the previous notes before, but I love the new design. Looks and feels very premium. The metal sides feel great. Only thing I don't like is the gap on the right, I pretty much have to blow dust out quite often. And I have a couple of small scratches at the edge of the metal band, the unpainted part. Other than that one of the best build quality compared to other phones, and I have had quite a few of them.

The built quality is 10/10 on the Note 4. All three note devices used plastic. Apple however remains to still have the best aluminum built quality

I would like to know does anyone have problem with the aluminium edges?
I am hearing that they are getting scratched easily so i wanna know does anyone have similar problem?

*Emix* said:
I would like to know does anyone have problem with the aluminium edges?
I am hearing that they are getting scratched easily so i wanna know does anyone have similar problem?
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The only thing getting scratched when handling my phone is my finger that props up the phone from underneath
I did see the iphone 6/6+ in the ATT store a couple of days ago and I have to admit it looks and feels really good. The Note 4 and iphone 6/6+ bit have excellent build quality. That bending crap is blown way out of proportion.
It would have been nice if Samsung went with a different look for the back cover though, maybe something like the One Plus One's Sandstone backcover. But I don't mind it honestly. Hopefully we get some nice third party back covers soon.

Apart from the famous gap at the top and left hand side of the phone the phone feels solid. Love it, I just put a case on it to hide the gap and also coz im scared of it getting scratched.

Where are the potential areas to be scratched. i don't see aluminum anywhere on the Note 4; It's mainly metal with the surprising observation that the metal rim is painted.

RCJ89 said:
Apart from the famous gap at the top and left hand side of the phone the phone feels solid. Love it, I just put a case on it to hide the gap and also coz im scared of it getting scratched.
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Mine does not have a visible gap. Nor am I able to insert the edge of a business card.

arjun90 said:
Where are the potential areas to be scratched. i don't see aluminum anywhere on the Note 4; It's mainly metal with the surprising observation that the metal rim is painted.
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You don't see aluminium, but it's mainly metal...? Erm...
The bits people are saying scratch easily are the un-painted chamfered metal edges - which are aluminium - they do scratch quite easily, but the scratches are always hairline and as the edge is very small, so is the scratch.
Oh, and on closer inspection, yes, I have a gap - a teeny tiny gap that's so small as not to be visible or worrisome. I can barely get the edge of a post-it note in there, definitely not a business card.
It's a beautiful phone, without a doubt the best made phone Samsung have come out with.

The parts which are exposed can be covered with InvisibleShield Skin to prevent the scratches from rising. Do note however, this may make you feel awkward in the public. On the brighter note, at least you have a better chance of selling a device in mint condition. Cheers
SquidgyB said:
You don't see aluminium, but it's mainly metal...? Erm...
The bit's people are saying scratch easily are the un-painted chamfered metal edges - which are aluminium - they do scratch quite easily, but the scratches are always hairline and as the edge is very small, so is the scratch.
Oh, and on closer inspection, yes, I have a gap - a teeny tiny gap that's so small as not to be visible or worrisome. I can barely get the edge of a post-it note in there, definitely not a business card.
It's a beautiful phone, without a doubt the best made phone Samsung have come out with.
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arjun90 said:
What are your thoughts on the Note 4's Build Quality compared to previous Note Series Models?
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I got mine about an hour ago, it's white. It looks more refined than my Note 3 and feels more substantial. Is it "OMG! It's night and day!," no. I think it'll be more impressive to people who haven't owned previous Samsung products than those of us that have evolved with them. Even thought both were "plasticky" I think the Note 2>Note 3 evolution introduced a more serious look to the Note's than Note 3>Note 4. Don't misunderstand, I'm very happy with the design/build improvements in the Note 4 they just aren't life altering. I will say this, the tolerances it's built to are impressive. The plastic filler in between the metal trim is laser perfect. As is how tightly the back cover fits flush to the trim. HTC had issues pulling the same thing off.

RebDovid said:
Mine does not have a visible gap. Nor am I able to insert the edge of a business card.
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Mine does have a gap but its not big enough to really put a peice of paper in. I guess I only noticed it because I was looking for it.

Sometime with gaps, sometime not. I handed on about 4pcs of Note 4 and they have no gaps. Sony Z3 often come with gaps. Note 4 is stronger ( to bend ) than Z3.

Coming from an S4 its a marked improvement. I actually like the build quality better than the LG G3. Maybe it just fits in my hand better.

The gap seems more prominent on the Korean models, especially since initial reports of gap-gate originated from there. The T-Mobile Note 4 is assembled in Vietnam; I'm not sure how much leverage assembly workers there have in respect to minding the gap. Bear in mind the AT&T variant (with Snapdragon 805) is assembled in Korea.

Coming from note 2 it's a substantial improvement.

My note 4 is top notch. No gap anywhere.

willzilla said:
My note 4 is top notch. No gap anywhere.
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The gap on the Note 4 I've handled was the same as the ones found in the s4 and s5; no big deal.
People are blowing this way out of proportion. This was not a problem with the s4 or the s5, it's not a problem with the note 4.

One word... Excellent.

I do have a gapgate style gap at the top end of the glass, it's very small but a few bits of crud have got in there already.. I'm not happy about it but I'm also not going to get fussed over it as I was aware of the issue over a week ago. The other three sides of the glass are flush. The rest of the build quality is perfect, everything is so flush and the way the back fits around the curved metal bezel is just spot on. It's the first time I've felt Samsungs 'leather' back and I really like it, strangely soft to the touch.
I really wish they'd add lens covers to the cameras on these devices but that's a personal preference born out of the Sony Ericsson K series of phones.

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Hi,
I read few threads about build quality of the Samsung Note 4 but mostly I fount speculations and opinions not supported with facts. I am mechanical engineer and I like to think that I know few thinks about processes that are being used in modern industry.
I would like to focus on metal finish which was a decision maker to upgrade from Note 3.
When I first received my new Note 4, first think I did was not turning it on, but inspecting quality of the new body. After few minutes I already knew that there will be problems. I wasn't mistaken...
Lets sort one think up, because there was a big discussion about it in previous threads. Note 4 is not made out of metal. Main body of the smartphone is made purely out of plastic. To better understand it, remove back cover and remove S-pen. This Grayish plastic you see everywhere is actually the main frame of the smartphone. Visible metal sides of the phone as well, are plastic. Metal finish is only metallic coating. There are few processes that allow to cover plastic with metal and most generally it is called metallization. You may ask - so what? Important that it is looking and feeling good... I would completely agree with you if not for the fact that coating is ridiculously thin. I am very careful with my Note 4, but I don't use any covers and additional protection for device. After only few months after using my smartphone I saw first negative signs such as flaking off black metallic paint where the USB receptacle is. Once it stars it gets only worse. later on you have to be even more careful for flaking will continue even when you scratch it lightly with the nail. I would like to point as well, that under this black metallic paint there is plastic. If you expected metal you will be disappointed. Actual silver chamfers are a little bit thicker - around 0,2+-0,05mm. I am not a fan of Iphone but I appreciate real metal body. It bothers me when I see price of the device. I would expect to see real premium device instead of constant covering up with better materials plastic "Samsung madness". Don't think than I am a Samsung hater, because its completely opposite. I didn't change brand since Samsung Galaxy S, and I had all smartphones from Note series.
After Note 3 I'm disappointed by note 4. At least N3 wasn't pretending anything. Not only from build quality newest note is not a good successor of good old note 3 but from software point of view as well but that is topic for other thread.
I covered only one aspect of poor quality of the phone. There are more but to reduce the length of the post I wont describe them. I will mention only at the end that if you are looking for robust made phone this is not what you should look for. I have a feeling that device is made like this to look like **** after warranty period ends.
Peace
Rbn

The Note 4 is metal, here is a metal test of the frame:
https://youtu.be/d-7Yw_XXviI
Go spew your nonsense somewhere else.
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The black sides of my Note 4 are fine, no flacking, the USB and area surrounding it are also still fine. I have had my Note 4 since launch (got it 2days early). Used it for 8months with no cover, only recently put a cover as I wanted it to fee thicker and more substantial in hand and to protect it as I do drop it a lot.

Is he touching on the metallic coated chamfer or the actual side of the phone?

POLO_i780 said:
The Note 4 is metal, here is a metal test of the frame:
Go spew your nonsense somewhere else.
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The black sides of my Note 4 are fine, no flacking, the USB and area surrounding it are also still fine. I have had my Note 4 since launch (got it 2days early). Used it for 8months with no cover, only recently put a cover as I wanted it to fee thicker and more substantial in hand and to protect it as I do drop it a lot.
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Are you serious with this youtube clip, or it is a joke? I am not sure... He is touching 3cm apart of each other on metallic chamfer which I already said is metallic (if you would read carefully) thickens of the metal he check resistance of i approximately 0,2mm as I as well said before. if he would touch on left and right side there would be no conduction because chamfer are separated in exactly 4 individual points.
Your comment has no sens what so ever apart of some strange attitude.

mark0326 said:
Is he touching on the metallic coated chamfer or the actual side of the phone?
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He touched both, 1st the chamfered side and then the side.
He did the video in response to another person who was claiming the Note 4 isn't metal, when in actual fact it is.

POLO_i780 said:
He touched both, 1st the chamfered side and then the side.
He did the video in response to another person who was claiming the Note 4 isn't metal, when in actual fact it is.
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I see words them self do not convince you so pictures will have to (self made).
Few words of commentary if you do not understand. picture ***23 show where the coating ends (probably for antenna connection reasons).
Picture ***43 shows that in fact there is a conductivity, therefore metallic surface (like on youtube video you posted)
On picture ***53 you can clearly see that there is infinite resistance = no metallic connection
If you still do not believe on the picture ***22 you can see that housing is in fact non conductive = non metallic
Stop your nonsense argument please.

Rubenqben said:
I see words them self do not convince you so pictures will have to (self made).
Few words of commentary if you do not understand. picture ***23 show where the coating ends (probably for antenna connection reasons).
Picture ***43 shows that in fact there is a conductivity, therefore metallic surface (like on youtube video you posted)
On picture ***53 you can clearly see that there is infinite resistance = no metallic connection
If you still do not believe on the picture ***22 you can see that housing is in fact non conductive = non metallic
Stop your nonsense argument please.
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All you have proved is that there are parts of the frame that are not metal e.g. the USB area, where the antennas are and may I add where the 3.5mm jack is, this is party to be expected as even with my iPad these areas in particular will have some sort of plastic within.
The frame is mostly metal. Its winter down here and the frame gets icy cold to the touch vs. the back cover plastic and front glass.
You haven't really made any point, the Note 4 at the end of the day is a well built premium phone, in my experience, Samsung have ensured the areas that shouldn't be metal aren't you can actually see them e.g. around USB port is a tiny bump, same with where the antennas are.

People are not satisfied with anything nowadays...
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People are not satisfied with anything nowadays...
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Indeed.

I can't quite believe you guys are fighting over a mostly plastic phone. I agree with the first poster and what he has posted makes sense. I've also taken my note 4 apart and you can clearly tell it is mostly plastic with the exception being the coated chamfer which is coated with metal then painted and polished, as well as the screws. Ignoring the logic board which contains many elements your left with the screen and glass covering. To be short the phone is mostly plastic and not mostly metal like the users are trying to argue.

Plastic is very inefficient at blocking radio signals, I'm happy.

If it was all metal, someone would say that it is very heavy and signal is poor. If it was glass, people would say it is fragile and a fingerprint magnet. I believe our phone is an ideal blend of premium and other features. I personally love the faux leather back, it is much more robust than a real leathet or gloss plastic.
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lordoftheriffs said:
If it was all metal, someone would say that it is very heavy and signal is poor. If it was glass, people would say it is fragile and a fingerprint magnet. I believe our phone is an ideal blend of premium and other features. I personally love the faux leather back, it is much more robust than a real leathet or gloss plastic.
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Exactly. This phone is very well built and blend of materials very well thought-out.
The faux leather is brilliant, mine still looks as good as new since launch, while many LG G4 Leather Back owners already have wear and tear within weeks of owning the phone.

While I do think that this is very well designed phone, op is right in his claim that there's not a lot of metal for someone who expected at least outer frame to be aluminum. He is right that under black metallic Paint is only white plastic.
Actually it is amazing how well they have managed to fuse aluminum chamfer, and only that (this is best visible when taking pen out and looking at the cross section). The supposed antenna breaks, on top and bottom, are purely for decoration, and to fool the users into thinking that sections are solid metal and evocative of iPhone of yesteryear that had those cutouts for a reason.
Altogether, there's probably not much more than 5 grams of aluminum on the whole frame. If even that much?
Im just glad that the paint finish on this phone is much more durable than s4 and s5, where even sweat would cause peeling of the fake chrome coating,provided you don't drop phone (it is true that once metallic paints start peeling on certain section, the process accelerates.
All that said, I do agree with polo_i780 last post absolutely.
Note 4 ?

To the op, are you sure your note 4 is not a fake? I mean no disrespect just that mine has been dropped and such without a case, has lots of scratches all around and it doesn't flake as you say. I just tried scratching it with my nails and.... nothing.
If it does indeed have an insanely thin coating then no way would the frame get icy cold as the other poster said (mine does this).
My note 3 never felt like this. Also you're wrong the note 3 did pretend to be something. A leather notebook with the rear cover. But I actually preferred that cover instead of this one lol.
Either way no company is going to please everyone.

I kind of agree with the original poster. There's something "missing" in build quality on the N4, it just doesn't feel as premium as the metal flagships or even the S6. I think it's almost a half and half like Samsung were half way through redesigning their handsets the N4 is the result. I'm not saying it feels cheap or it isn't a nice design, I just don't think it feels like a full premium design.
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Disagree. This phone is designed very well. I don't care for metal.

The OP's analysis perfectly describes the very well known problem of the N4's "metal" sides getting very scratched up due solely to the use of certain cases. If you've just recently picked up an N4, search the forum for "scratched metal" and you'll see no shortage of threads where the issue is mentioned (my search for topics with those terms from the main page of the N4 forum yielded 84 results).
@Rubenqben if the edges have become annoyingly scratched, there's a DIY fix that also protects the edges from future damage involving metal polish. Very detailed instructions w/ pics can be found via search, IIRC there have been a few guides in the "General" subforum. I've done this to my device that's now about 7 months old and the edges are even shinier than they were before removing the plastic from the phone (it should be noted that using metal polish on the edges lightens the metal color a few "shades", likely dependent on the specific product that you use... not in a bad way IMO, I actually think that mine looks better with the "Blue Magic Metal Polish Cream" from Amazon).
Now should it be necessary to use potentially damaging chemicals on a $$$ phone so that the edges don't get scratched up by a protective case?
I'm curious what other build quality issues you've discovered that were alluded to in the OP? I've been happy with my N4 overall, but I've definitely encountered some issues that seem like they can only be traced back to hardware design flaws... I'm no engineer though so I'm interested in your other findings :good:

My note 4 is fine its metal and the paint doesnt chip so did you buy a knock off phone.
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jazzmachine said:
the op's analysis perfectly describes the very well known problem of the n4's "metal" sides getting very scratched up due solely to the use of certain cases. If you've just recently picked up an n4, search the forum for "scratched metal" and you'll see no shortage of threads where the issue is mentioned (my search for topics with those terms from the main page of the n4 forum yielded 84 results).
@rubenqben if the edges have become annoyingly scratched, there's a diy fix that also protects the edges from future damage involving metal polish. Very detailed instructions w/ pics can be found via search, iirc there have been a few guides in the "general" subforum.
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I couldn't agree more. I had a Note 3 and with the exact care and usage it was perfectly fine whereas my Note 4 has scratches on the metal sides! Yes the metal sides looks better but they also loves to be scratched, without even trying to, just by changing covers and cases! Even the Samsung Protective cover wasn't able to prevent the scratches! With S6 Samsung has hardened/improved the metal so hopefully Note 5 will not have any metal issues like Note 4. Btw, can you share the exact guide you tested and confirmed it works? Thank you!

Unlocked Galaxy Note 8 Direct from Samsung, Sharp Edges?

I received my Unlocked Galaxy Note 8 Direct from Samsung today. Coming from the AT&T Galaxy s8+ on which the build quality was pretty phenomenal. Almost perfectly smooth edges where the glass meets the frame on the front and back. Perfect smooth feeling in the hand.
The very first thing I noticed when I took the Note 8 out of the box is the almost sharp feeling edges where the frame protrudes substantially further than the glass does. At first I thought maybe it was intentional to help protect the glass on impact if you were to drop it but it just feels terrible in the hand. Really *really* noticeable.
Has anybody else noticed this? Part of me hoping this is NOT normal and I can get a replacement and the other half of me wants everybody elses to be the same so I don't have to try to get a replacement. It really does feel "not right" in the hand though... not sharp like you could cut yourself but sharp enough to scrape skin off if you press hard.
For the full retail price I paid..... kinda bummed.

Mines the same. Purchased from Samsung direct a tmobile variant.
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aznmode said:
Mines the same. Purchased from Samsung direct a tmobile variant.
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That actually makes me feel a little better. Thank you. :good:

Sorry to hear that. I know I'd be gutted if my Note 8 arrived and it had an issue. I'm on a Note 3 so I've kinda been waiting for 4 years for this phone and the anticipation is killing me. I always put a case on my phones so I probably wouldn't be devo about it but it would still be disappointing. I'll let you know if mine has the same feel and lie to you if it doesn't.

Yeah, the edges are different due to the spen. Samsung made the edges closer to 90 degrees for spen usage, which gives more screen real estate to write on.
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car.los.7399 said:
Yeah, the edges are different due to the spen. Samsung made the edges closer to 90 degrees for spen usage, which gives more screen real estate to write on.
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I knew that. I just wish the edge was smooth where the glass meets the frame. Basically my frame is substantially wider than the glass is, if that explains it better.

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I knew that. I just wish the edge was smooth where the glass meets the frame. Basically my frame is substantially wider than the glass is, if that explains it better.
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I see what you are saying, mine feels the same way. I didn't really think of it until you mentioned it. Doesn't really bother me, plus I'm going to slap a thin case on it.
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car.los.7399 said:
I see what you are saying, mine feels the same way. I didn't really think of it until you mentioned it. Doesn't really bother me, plus I'm going to slap a thin case on it.
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To be honest its not bothering me so much today. You get used to it pretty quickly I guess. Thanks for your reply.