sound quality and Beats audio not good enough - HTC Butterfly S

I had used before HTCHD2 . HTC Mozart 7. HTC Desire HD. HTC sensation XE, HTC one, HTC Droid Dna, now HTC Butterfly S
In my experience the sound quality best ever is Droid DNA, beats audio and deep bass very effective and clear.
i noticed in Butterfly S the bass not deep enough and the beats audio on and off almost same a very little different when turn off and on the beats audio in butterfly s in comparison with Droid DNA, besides when i turn on the X-Wide in jet audio making a little distortion, in Droid Dna no problem and very clear.
Usually am listen to music by connecting the phone in car audio system with amplifier and big sup woofer.
Anybody experience the Droid Dna sound Quality and the butterfly s.?
If any suggestion or solution please inform me.
Thanks

hmm, the DNA's DAC has a bit less dynamic range than the Butterfly s, so it may give a more "harder" sound. According to tests done by GSMArena the Butterfly s has a higher dynamic range and less IMD (a bit more THD though), so theoretically its sound quality should be "better." However, you're used to a more bassy sound you may not like it.
What volume are you listening at? Using the stock music app, volume levels above 11/15 can sound distorted using In-Ear headphones. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423846
Using third-party players like PowerAMP can fix this at some higher volumes but there is an occasional clicking that occurs (similar to skipping on old Android Phones.)
Maybe give PowerAMP a try because when I used JetAudio on my HTC One X+, some of the enhancements distorted a bit.
If you don't want any clicking, I think stock player is the only one that works as it seems to use a different audio thread. (you can't use any equalizer app with it)

FYL21 said:
hmm, the DNA's DAC has a bit less dynamic range than the Butterfly s, so it may give a more "harder" sound. According to tests done by GSMArena the Butterfly s has a higher dynamic range and less IMD (a bit more THD though), so theoretically its sound quality should be "better." However, you're used to a more bassy sound you may not like it.
What volume are you listening at? Using the stock music app, volume levels above 11/15 can sound distorted using In-Ear headphones. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423846
Using third-party players like PowerAMP can fix this at some higher volumes but there is an occasional clicking that occurs (similar to skipping on old Android Phones.)
Maybe give PowerAMP a try because when I used JetAudio on my HTC One X+, some of the enhancements distorted a bit.
If you don't want any clicking, I think stock player is the only one that works as it seems to use a different audio thread. (you can't use any equalizer app with it)
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Thanks For Reply yeh i agree with you usually i listen to music by connecting the mobile in audio system car with amplifier and sub woofer actually droid dna in jet audio is better then Butterfly s deeper bass ,but butterfly s in pwoeramp is better then droid dna.
big thanks for your advise .

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[Q] Beats Audio against SRS , Dolby Mobile etc.

can you explain me the advantages of beats audio?
imho SRS sounds much better than beats audio. much deeper bass and high tones are clear.
maybe it only give better sound an beats headphones?
Good question, I'd like to know too...
OK just found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348659
This review is a pretty good analysis of what Beats actually does on a HTC phone (only one I've seen on the internet apart from speculation about the magical Beats)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/13/htc-sensation-xe-with-beats-audio-review/
Basically, if you dont use it with Beats headphones you get a crap experience unless you're into Top 40 Sine Waves Under 400Hz.
Thanks I will check that out.

Beats Audio against SRS , Dolby Mobile etc.

can you explain me the advantages of beats audio?
imho SRS sounds much better than beats audio. much deeper bass and high tones are clear.
maybe it only give better sound an beats headphones?
highKo said:
can you explain me the advantages of beats audio?
imho SRS sounds much better than beats audio. much deeper bass and high tones are clear.
maybe it only give better sound an beats headphones?
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Same here. I like SRS better than others effects. I'm using Westone UM2.
I use srs, beats sounds a bit tinny to me
If You are using HTC Innovation headphones, then SRS wil be the best one fitting you.
If you are using HTC headphones, you gave rocks in your head.
Sorry, but they are really bad IMO.
Take it from a sound engineer: beats audio is nothing but marketing. The actual sound quality you get is no better than a standard consumer product. In fact, it may well be worse, since they crank up the bass response for no real reason.
In certain cases, the sound hardware must put into considerations as well. Such as headphones accessories.
doctorsax said:
Take it from a sound engineer: beats audio is nothing but marketing. The actual sound quality you get is no better than a standard consumer product. In fact, it may well be worse, since they crank up the bass response for no real reason.
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thanks for your professional meaning. how do you rate the other settings like SRS, dolby mobile etc?
Beats practically made no difference on my phone. What does is, DSP manager. But you need your phone to be rooted for that. And trust me, You need to hear it to believe it!
Makes your sound, specially beats, better than any ipod ever made.
I think so. SRS is wider and louder than Beat.
Or maybe I need Beat earphone to run with it
I thought all these sound enhancement things were in the kernel
and that sense roms are based off HTC kernels with SRS
so therefore AOSP roms dont have SRS
Therefore none have beats or dolby
Please correct me if im wrong
All this has come from surfing around other forums, with kernels that say they have beats integration and rezound sound drivers etc.
Personally I don't like srs, beats audio seems to me that doesnt' change anything...
I think that beats driver does something only in phones that have a native hardware support...
BTW, I'm using ue-600..
there is a way to install the Beats Audio, which I RockoDev for all roms in Incredible Gingerbread S, and probe some zip but remain on bootloop to initiate or otherwise do not allow me to use the native player I get FC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

Techno lovers?

I dabbled with sound modifications on my Atrix 4G back in the day to maximize bass without all of the distortion to provide clear sound with incredible bass. Since we still haven't gotten a custom recovery and do not have a fully deodexed ROM, this thread will provide a simple way to create similar sound quality and will be updated once development gets going for our devices.
I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY HARM THIS COULD DO TO YOUR SPEAKERS / HEADPHONES.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND USING THESE SETTINGS FOR ANYTHING BUT DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF TECHNO
NOTE: This is meant for high-end studio headphones and a really good sound system. Plugging in other headphones or low quality speakers could potentially ruin them. (Blew a couple of speakers in my old surround sound system.)
For headphones, this has only been extensively tested with a pair of Sony MDR-XB500's and these setting are meant specifically for them.
--this will change over time--
Required apps/mods:
PowerAmp
Step 1: Enter settings, sound, then wired stereo devices under audio effects and change it to Bass Punch.
Step 2a: in PowerAmp, go to the equalizer section. Make sure Equal, Tone, and Limit are turned on. (Limit helps remove distortion.)
Step 2b: Change the preset to techno and raise the preamp (furthest left bar) slightly. Then raise 62 to a bit above 31.
Step3: Under Tone, turn treble up all the way and bass a little over half. Stereo x should be turned up about 1/8.
The above steps should be somewhat okay for lower-end headphones and sound systems. To fully maximize the quality and bass for high-end sound systems and headphones, mimic what I did in the posted screenshots.
Screenshots coming soon. Won't let me upload them for some reason..
I'm also taking requests on different genres and music players to better suit those that aren't all about Techno like myself and the other shufflers here on XDA.
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Nice thread,dude.. I'm not an audiophile but your tricks attracts me to try it.
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I'm a freak when it comes to music lol. I've done similar things on a couple f friend's GS2's and whatnot. It'll be much better once we get development for our devices going. I'm hoping the old zip I made for my Atrix 4G will work for the HD once we get CWM or something. Lots of tweaks to Beats Audio and XLoud alongside DSP Manager. I still prefer using my 4G for music over the HD for now. Sound quality is absolutely amazing.
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Neroga said:
I'm a freak when it comes to music lol. I've done similar things on a couple f friend's GS2's and whatnot. It'll be much better once we get development for our devices going. I'm hoping the old zip I made for my Atrix 4G will work for the HD once we get CWM or something. Lots of tweaks to Beats Audio and XLoud alongside DSP Manager. I still prefer using my 4G for music over the HD for now. Sound quality is absolutely amazing.
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Yeah..Atrix has an amazing sound output. Still miss my Atrix audio quality. Droid 4 is the only phone I feel slightly better than Atrix.
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Beats Audio + Network Streaming

I jumped the gun and got my Nexus 7 early. Due to my impatience, I'm left with the limited space my N7 has left. I use Skifta/Doubletwist/iMediashare to listen to my fairly large music collection on my PC and Droid 3, but nothing I can find supports Beats Audio like Google Music.
Is there a way, without using my external SD reader and OTG to listen to my music via WiFi/Bluetooth and still keep the great sound of Beats Audio?
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Not be one of those guys, but beats audio is just an eq setting chosen by dre and co that boosts bass scoops some mids and brightens up top.
Dre doesnt know what headphones you use or speaker system you use or the acoustics of the room you're in, so he doesn't know if it is an improvement or not.
Keep eq flatish or EQ until YOU like it on your playback system.
The whole thing is bit of a con, as a studio engineer producer myself it annoys the hell out me!
If u like it that what matters but you can do without it, is my point.
Edit . also Dr dre is in his 40's and a lifelong live performer and producer so his ears are knackered, mainly in the sense that he hears things duller than reality for youngsters. I wouldnt want him setting the eq on my playback. Now he can hear when a tune works of course but 16khz, prob not.
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bkmaracas said:
Not be one of those guys, but beats audio is just an eq setting chosen by dre and co that boosts bass scoops some mids and brightens up top.
Dre doesnt know what headphones you use or speaker system you use or the acoustics of the room you're in, so he doesn't know if it is an improvement or not.
Keep eq flatish or EQ until YOU like it on your playback system.
The whole thing is bit of a con, as a studio engineer producer myself it annoys the hell out me!
If u like it that what matters but you can do without it, is my point.
Edit . also Dr dre is in his 40's and a lifelong live performer and producer so his ears are knackered, mainly in the sense that he hears things duller than reality for youngsters. I wouldnt want him setting the eq on my playback. Now he can hear when a tune works of course but 16khz, prob not.
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Ditto... my kids keep wanting me to get them the beats headphones and I just laugh and hand them my Sennheisers from the studio and tell them to put some real ones on.
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I wouldn't spend money on the headphones, I have a set of my own that are just as nice without the price tag. I just like the Awesome Beats EQ. Its pretty simple and it definitely sounds better than the original DSP Manager.
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[Q] Poor streaming Bluetooth audio sound quality?

I'm having some issues w the BT Streaming audio quality - sounds a bit fragmented and tinny on some of the higher (brighter) sounds when playing music. I had the same problem on my Evo 3D, but it went away w/ the Evo LTE, and now its back w/ the HTC One.
Anyone else having issues?
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In general, blue tooth sucks for audio. It can't quite transfer data fast enough. There have been improvements over the years but it's a hardware limitation too.
I'm not sure how much better it sounded on the LTE, but it sounds just fine for me with beats on. Sometimes beats stops working, or so it sounds, and it sounds crappier.
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Ok thx....I was turning the Beats off b/c there was too much bass.
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Is it a problem with all sources? (MP3's, Spotify, Pandora?) Spotify and Pandora will, by default, set to lower quality streams and downloads which result in compression noise, most notably in higher and lower frequencies.
While BT audio isn't the best for audio, it's not all that bad. I've been using BT audio on my high-end car-fi and it sounds fantastic! Just as good as my iPhone sounded directly wired to USB. But, I need to turn off BeatsAudio to get any real sound quality. Beats is a glorified 'loudness' control and it destroys music on good systems. It does, however, make the HTC One speakers sound surprisingly amazing, esp for spoken word like podcasts and audiobooks.
EliLuc said:
Is it a problem with all sources? (MP3's, Spotify, Pandora?) Spotify and Pandora will, by default, set to lower quality streams and downloads which result in compression noise, most notably in higher and lower frequencies.
While BT audio isn't the best for audio, it's not all that bad. I've been using BT audio on my high-end car-fi and it sounds fantastic! Just as good as my iPhone sounded directly wired to USB. But, I need to turn off BeatsAudio to get any real sound quality. Beats is a glorified 'loudness' control and it destroys music on good systems. It does, however, make the HTC One speakers sound surprisingly amazing, esp for spoken word like podcasts and audiobooks.
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So, lower bitrate mp3s (128kbps) will have more noise on lower and higher frequencies?
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I'm having the same issues with my HTC One. The audio quality is noticeably distorted. Has anyone found a fix?

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