I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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Money Money Money :thumbup:
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gagan97 said:
I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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Would you buy it? I mean, seriously dude, it's about selling. They are going to make a few millions on that L40 just because it's brand new, has kitkat and has a screen size like older iPhones. If they would update the "unupdateable" Tegra2 powered, 2-3 years old 2X, then everyone would go around buying second-hand, used 2Xs for 40$ on eBay, instead of going for their new phone.
I'd rather say Google cheated everyone, because Android updates life cycle is too short. There is a bunch of "old" phones with very capable hardware to run KitKat 4.4 and phone manufacturers won't ever update them because they just don't have any legal obligation to do so, we only have to hope their "goodwill" to release drive sources, which isn't the case for our 2x since nVidia and LG don't give a %#@!.
It's kinda sad me to see how a very capable phone gets obsolete by force due the lack of system updates, and I'm not talking only about our O2x.
This also raises other important topic, such as about electronic waste, people are wasting their 2 year phone because they are stuck in Gingerbread limbo.
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I'd rather say Google cheated everyone, because Android updates life cycle is too short. There is a bunch of "old" phones with very capable hardware to run KitKat 4.4 and phone manufacturers won't ever update them because they just don't have any legal obligation to do so, we only have to hope their "goodwill" to release drive sources, which isn't the case for our 2x since nVidia and LG don't give a %#@!.
It's kinda sad me to see how a very capable phone gets obsolete by force due the lack of system updates, and I'm not talking only about our O2x.
This also raises other important topic, such as about electronic waste, people are wasting their 2 year phone because they are stuck in Gingerbread limbo.
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+1, i think the best manufacturer were we can go is sony?? :noidea:
as i can see today sony is the only manufacturer that providing at least the sources for old phones?
I think it's worse that they wont give out all the code needed to optimize and improve the Tegra2 cores for O2X than updating it themselves.
(since they obviously aren't very good at it)
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Would you buy it? I mean, seriously dude, it's about selling. They are going to make a few millions on that L40 just because it's brand new, has kitkat and has a screen size like older iPhones. If they would update the "unupdateable" Tegra2 powered, 2-3 years old 2X, then everyone would go around buying second-hand, used 2Xs for 40$ on eBay, instead of going for their new phone.
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Well they could at least give out a stable ics ota
The official ics update is crap as hell totally unusable, i would have sold this phone but thanks to the wonderful devs of this community I'm still using it ?
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gagan97 said:
I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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That L40 is dumb but no doubt like the L3 it will be a great kids phone.
But our P990 will not get love from LG mine is 2 years old now and it was the last of them to be seen here in New Zealand, most people will break or loose the phone by now why develop for such a small audeince, dont forget our phone only have about 384mb of ram and they do not support NEON instuction either it was meant to be over at 4.2 but TonyP and pengus got us a bit further.
Even if you look at the specs i dont think the L90 would be a good replacement for the P990 mainly because of the price im guessing it will be more than the Nexus 5 which cost now the same amount as the P990 cost me two years ago.
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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nvidia drivers are closed source and they do not update the drivers any more - and the tegra2 does not even support neon-instructions - thats why LG stopped developing
and because the phone now really is too old - i mean, a 3 year old smartphone is already a dinosaur, what other company still develops updates for such old phones?
my next phone will definitely have NO nvidia chip in it, and will be manufactured by sony because of their full open source approach.
akash.mahadeshwar said:
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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i bought O2x to my girlfriend last summer,and that was BIG mistake, she need phone,fast,and...luckily we have our developers that make awesome stuff but still, and than i bought to my self O4x, another mistake...i think that that is last tegra device i EVER buy,this is just unforgivable, devices with a lot potential don't receive updates that they deserve ,i won't put so much blame on lg, because htc one x even won't receive kitkat, because of nvidia(nvidia shame on you,you better stay away from smartphone scene,just make people angry) ...except if K1 go open source,than maybe can be an option for buying,but after that i doubt....almost dead in my book,just sad
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The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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In a nutshell, LG + nVIDIA = terrible mistake, total disaster for android.
This is probably the worst combination in android world. LG for its extremely slow system updates schedules and nVIDIA for dropping the support for past SoCs too soon and won't even bother releasing proper documentation or blobs for futher development.
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In a nutshell, LG + nVIDIA = terrible mistake, total disaster for android.
This is probably the worst combination in android world. LG for its extremely slow system updates schedules and nVIDIA for dropping the support for past SoCs too soon and won't even bother releasing proper documentation or blobs for futher development.
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well the annoying thing is that they both are the best companies. LG and nVidia did the gratest things, LG invented the first dual-core phone (our O2X) and the first 4K TV, nvidia invented first 3D Vision on PC's and so on..... They are grate companies but when it comes to who gives less f***ks LG and nVidia are the first :laugh: and they are terrible at software developing. :crying:
Agreed, I have owned my last nvvidia phone.
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The only direct responsible for this situation is nVidia. Those who were in active in this forum the last couple of years know perfectly well how it all went down and, even though it was LG the one who should push updates for the o2x, its always been nVidia that obstructed development efforts due to its notorious closed-source policy. In the end of the day, its perfectly understandable for a company to stop supporting a 3-year old device, considering the silly pace in which mobile tech evolves. Keep in mind that the o2x hasnt been the worst of examples in this area. Even though it still holds the record for longest update holdout (16 months to go from Android 2.2 to 2.3 - even mentioned in Wikipedia) it has seen 2 major OS updates: 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0. Direct competition doesn't differ too much in this sense (SGS 2.3 to 4.0.4 to 4.1, HTC Thunderbolt 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0) with some 'flagships' that year seeing much less (see Droid Bionic). We should really be grateful that some amazing devs happened to join this forum and dedicated lots of time and knowledge to maintain this phone and get it where it is right now. It's been some time that i dont use my o2x (passed it on to my gf - still runs great) and moved to an iP4s due to Google's frustrating incapability to write a decent low latency audio API (Apple is the undisputed king there). So even though im not planning to move back to Android before this embarrassing situation is resolved, Im absolutely convinced that ill never, ever buy an nVidia powered phone again, no matter what they come up with. So yes, once more: nVidia, F**k You!
oh no
Not only lg even htc ndivia powered device such htc one x didnt get kitkat update, they have twice power engine than o2x. I think owner of htc one x cry louder than us thanx to nvidia :crying:
This isn't the first time that LG cheats his users.
Just remember the Optimus 3D updates...
Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
Linus Torvals complained about Nvidia because of the lack of their support for Linux and Android. I think it was a good opinion that he said what he thinks about that company. For computers, AMD and ATI have a great support for Linux, which is really nice. Too bad I noticed too late what a fault it was to buy an Nvidia pc, too.
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my next phone will definitely have NO nvidia chip in it, and will be manufactured by sony because of their full open source approach.
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Does that mean that you'll get a lot of more or less bug free custom ROMs for them? I'm looking forward to buy a phone which will have better custom ROM support in the future without all those nasty bugs which are related to closed source drivers and hidden hardware information like with this phine (camera bug in 4.4, bluetooth call bugs, gps fix problems caused by software). I am really tired because of all that. I never found any very smooth ROM without all those problems.
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Does that mean that you'll get a lot of more or less bug free custom ROMs for them? I'm looking forward to buy a phone which will have better custom ROM support in the future without all those nasty bugs which are related to closed source drivers and hidden hardware information like with this phine (camera bug in 4.4, bluetooth call bugs, gps fix problems caused by software). I am really tired because of all that. I never found any very smooth ROM without all those problems.
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every manufacturer unfortunately has some closed source parts, some more, some less, but some can't be avoided - but yes, sony has the best open source approach and therefore the best custom rom base
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According to the danish lg site, under FAQ of the LG Optimus 2x, they say that it'll be out in june/july 2011. So that seems to be as official they have stated a release date yet
If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
Yeah this sucks ballzzzz
Yeah it seems to be true, but have only been posted (as far as I have checked) on the Scandinavian sites for Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
I also made this post about it (maybe in the wrong section) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034970
EDIT: With a picture btw.
This means Cyanogenmod is again overtaking the manufacturer
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If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
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this is in line with LG italy "our scope is to provide the update in the first half of this year"
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i've just finished a livechat with italian LG support.
they have no info on gingerbread update.
Im glad there are alot of custom roms. LG fails again. superhardware lack of support
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oh my goodness when is the cyanogen gingerbread update .........
hehe who cares? I only care about CM7
The problem is there are a lot of fixes needed even within the LG Android 2.2.2, it's not all about providing GB. The stock LG software is subpar in my oppinion and the problems signaled here and on other forums needs to be addressed by LG hopefully before June.
[email protected], CM7 would be nice but for O2X is in a far from usable state.
If LG launch the 2.3 with the know how demonstrated on 2.2... I don't see how this is a good news...
CM7 is all that mater
maybe LG is waiting for cm7, and get the idea from it
I absolutely agree with the statement "Who cares, I just want CM7".
Then again, LG having the low-level dev access that they have (drivers and whatnot), isn't much easier for them to dev the update than for us to dev CM7? Moreover, wouldn't it be much easier to port CM7 if we had an LG 2.3 ROM?
Cheers.
Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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I kind of like LG for the speed, is much faster than the Galaxy S no matter what kernel you had on it, but O2X has other problems like the poor audio quality in calls and still the software doesn't feel like it's the final version, more like a test one. I agree we should expect more because the super fast hardware is there. It's a reality manufacturers don't care about that, they act like sell only the hardware and after that, they wash their hands. At least Samsung continue to support the Galaxy S which will have GB within weeks and in the meantime we have to wait until summer to get our port on O2X. I would never buy Apple, they sell just boring super expensive and locked products, that are still owned by them even after they sell them to you. If you want Android without headaches, the best bet is on the Nexus Phones. But, in the end, you can't have everything I guess...
Wow, that was long... what are we talking about here?
Sounds like the email I recived from LG Sweden this monday which said their devs had started to work on 2.3...... but what...started? Hasn't 2.3 been out for a while??
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Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
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Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
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it will be supported and if not I still have my Nexus S hehe
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[email protected] said:
it will be supported ...
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yes...I would bet it will ..only thing that counts for me
69reichertm said:
Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Try the Nexus S, being just a single core hummingbird processor, the thing flies
LG Optimus 2x have the potential to be faster then the Nexus S, all you need is just to wait until more developers use the phone
Lg promised they would have the 10s in the end of may.After the failed promise.lg promised again they will have it in mid of june!!So where is the update now?!! i hate LG so much:s
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Well LG is now saying anytime soon...
I guess thats means by the end of this year...
Want to get CM on my 2x, but can't
Never ever LG for me...
Notice how the optimus 3d has been delayed. My thinking is that was the priority. Once launched they'd fix our problem. Its been delayed by 2/3 weeks which means our update will probably be as well.
Hope I'm wrong mind you. Thankfully I'm not getting too many bsod‘s
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Want to get CM on my 2x, but can't
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What's stopping you?
From LG Denmark: update delayed as it was not approved but still on track to a June release. Basically "any time soon".
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I agree...
But I don't think so... They can't follow simple instructions...
Yea. They did not implement the source code the right way, they got regarding Virtual Souround. Still waiting for that... (Got a friend working at the company that makes the software)
I Guess an LG error... :-(
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129486
I emailed LG customer service from 4 different countries. The two answers I got were:
1) Yes yes we are sorry for the delay and the update is coming this summer
2) No sorry there is no ETA on any update for this phone. Not even summer? No.
Their customer service have no idea on what's going on. It's ridiculous quite frankly.
Every single mobile company does this, not just LG.
Lets be thankful that a Gingerbread update is still in the works; they usually just abandon support when a new phone comes out.
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Meltus said:
Every single mobile company does this, not just LG.
Lets be thankful that a Gingerbread update is still in the works; they usually just abandon support when a new phone comes out.
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True but by the time they release GB, LG will have a better fone out and then will bypass any updates for old fones.
I never understand why mobile manufactures can make new fones faster than update there software?!. I suppose its about trying to sell more units?.
I think we wont see it this year and by the time we do get the update, we will have quad core processes and better os updates to Android than GB... Its not just LG, but ALL of them that are more interested in bringing out new hardware than to fully support what they have out already. One word... MONEY.
In away, thats why I like what is happening to gaming consoles. Its no longer about bringing a new one out every 2 years (like it used to be) and more into software and developing different ideas to bring new life into gaming.
Just wish hardware manufactures were pushing as hard for there software . Thats the real problem now.
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True but by the time they release GB, LG will have a better fone out and then will bypass any updates for old fones.
I never understand why mobile manufactures can make new fones faster than update there software?!. I suppose its about trying to sell more units?.
I think we wont see it this year and by the time we do get the update, we will have quad core processes and better os updates to Android than GB... Its not just LG, but ALL of them that are more interested in bringing out new hardware than to fully support what they have out already. One word... MONEY.
In away, thats why I like what is happening to gaming consoles. Its no longer about bringing a new one out every 2 years (like it used to be) and more into software and developing different ideas to bring new life into gaming.
Just wish hardware manufactures were pushing as hard for there software . Thats the real problem now.
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Apple is also doing a great job here.
My guess is that only a fraction of all android users cares about the OS kernels and other tweaks, as example. I was helping my Gf to get a new phone. She wanted a red one, with facebook on it. While i was dropping some easy specs like: multitouch, gb, memory, cpu etc. After a minute she replied,Thats sound cool, but DOES IT HAVE facebook... i think shes avarage phoneuser
So to be honest, why pay engineers to make software to people that doesnt care, when they can push phones to the market and actually make some profit.
I like LG.
they released this amazing piece of electronics and they opened up much more then many other brands (SonyEricsson, Samsung). So just becuause of that im running Gingerbread with oc/uv. So stop nagging, its a great phone and with cyanogen, arcee and many other developers, this has become a monster. We dont need LGs sw, android comunity makes it better.
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Meltus said:
Every single mobile company does this, not just LG.
Lets be thankful that a Gingerbread update is still in the works; they usually just abandon support when a new phone comes out.
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Well i never seen things like this with Sony Ericsson phones and reason for that is they do finish production on there phones hardware and software wise, so am realy disopointed with this lg product...
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My guess is that only a fraction of all android users cares about the OS kernels and other tweaks, as example. I was helping my Gf to get a new phone. She wanted a red one, with facebook on it. While i was dropping some easy specs like: multitouch, gb, memory, cpu etc. After a minute she replied,Thats sound cool, but DOES IT HAVE facebook... i think shes avarage phoneuser
So to be honest, why pay engineers to make software to people that doesnt care, when they can push phones to the market and actually make some profit.
I like LG.
they released this amazing piece of electronics and they opened up much more then many other brands (SonyEricsson, Samsung). So just becuause of that im running Gingerbread with oc/uv. So stop nagging, its a great phone and with cyanogen, arcee and many other developers, this has become a monster. We dont need LGs sw, android comunity makes it better.
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So if your girlfriend - with her limited knowledge of technology - where to buy this phone she should just root it and throw a custom firmware on it? Do you think that is very likely and consumer like her would do that?
You DO NOT need LG's firmware but 90% of all consumers do. And there is no way you can justify LG's action by doing their work. The product as a whole is not working and just because you like to change parts of it does not excuse this fact.
Still a week and a half to go before June ends so hopefully there will not be another delay. I think last time they said it has been delayed by 3-4 weeks. I'll be happy with a bug free stock phone that just works regardless of whether it is FroYo or GB.
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So if your girlfriend - with her limited knowledge of technology - where to buy this phone she should just root it and throw a custom firmware on it? Do you think that is very likely and consumer like her would do that?
You DO NOT need LG's firmware but 90% of all consumers do. And there is no way you can justify LG's action by doing their work. The product as a whole is not working and just because you like to change parts of it does not excuse this fact.
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90% of all consumers are probably saticfied with their smartphone. The rest of us who arent can easily change it if we wants to (of course we want, becuse we can ). So all i hear is "Gimme some crap i dont want or need...
The point with my gf is, she doesnt care. No problem. She is happy. Good.
Even how good LGs firmware is or going to be, i dont want it, just because it stock..
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Yes maybe 90% of all consumers are satisfied with THEIR smartphone. Do we need to point out how low LG's market share is in this segment? Do you really think that 90% of Optimus 2x users are satisfied with their phone??
The Optimus 2x freezes without being able to recover without a battery pull. That means every user expecting to receive calls or uses their phone as an alarm will be not be satisfied.
My brother bought this phone (not with my recommondation) and he - like your girlfriend - just expect it to work without going into technical details. He has missed calls and alarms already. It goes without saying that he is NOT satisfied and neither would your GF have been if she had bought this phone. Try and ask if she would be okay with missed calls and alarms.
Are saying this phone is only for the elite of 10% or less who wants to waste their freetime on installing experimental software?
Trentors is absolutely right here, 90% of the LG O2x users are ordinary users who are not satisfied with the current LG stock rom - but they are ordinary users not interested in having to do LG's work and install custom roms with everything this includes.
They have a legitimite demand on LG to provide what LG sold them - a working phone. Not a phone that reboots randomly, freeze randomly, run out of memory randomly, lags in various different situations for various different reasons (all reasons caused by poor programming from LG) - they have a legitimite demand on LG to provide updates to fix this, they have a legitimate demand that it should have been there from the beginning. They are not demanding gingerbread per say because its gingerbread, they are just demanding a properly working stock rom - it just happens that they may look to a gingerbread update as an expected way to get a working stock rom.
Herkuk, you are pissing on all these ordinary users with your statements here - I and the rest of these 90% O2x users dont care how much you want to tinker with custom roms - thats your choise, not ours - we dont care about OC abilities or all the other aspects you feel so much for in custom roms - we just want LG to provide what we paied for - namely a stock rom working the way its supposed to work. Plain and simple.
I do not accept the trend where manufacturers are allowed to release beta products or developer products as final products and then ditch any support in order to release new beta products which also do not work right - just because a group of geeks are happy just to get some new hardware to tinker with.
When I buy any other product I expect it to work - I expect my new car to drive without the wheels falling off or the brakes not working - I expect my new flatscreen TV to be able show a picture everytime I turn it on, not only every other time, and I dont expect it to randomly shutdown or get black screen whenever Im trying to watch a movie.
I dont care if you like LG or not - I dont care for fanboyisme - I demand the same from LG as I demand from any other manufacturer that want to sell me there products. Its not my job (even If I have the abilities) to do LG's work and fix their product.
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90% of all consumers are probably saticfied with their smartphone. The rest of us who arent can easily change it if we wants to (of course we want, becuse we can ). So all i hear is "Gimme some crap i dont want or need...
The point with my gf is, she doesnt care. No problem. She is happy. Good.
Even how good LGs firmware is or going to be, i dont want it, just because it stock..
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Yeah. I bet your girlfriend would love my LGP990. Whenever I don't have any reception my phone needs a reboot to be able to recieve calls, or send\recieve text messages.
I actually went back to the store and got a replacement with the exact same problem. Also with different SIM.
Android 4.0 Source is out! Any chance to get this in the LG Thrill 4G I would definitely be keeping it then.
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I was wondering the same thing. if this is possible I might not even update it to GB cause it wouldnt make sense. Hopefully its possible.
Its as possible as the source for GB turning into a GB update. That is to say, no its not possible.
LG needs to make the update and bake in the drivers. It took them a few days shy of a year for GB, maybe they can shave that down to 9 months for ICS. So, as Google announces 4.1, start looking for 4.0.
The Galaxy Nexus is not going to provide any ports to the Thrill, or any other device. Its the only device using that CPU/GPU combo. Its the only device to date with its CPU at all (processor in Thrill is different model number 4460 vs 4430, it may as well be entirely different) If ICS is your goal, the Galaxy Nexus is the fastest and easiest way. Otherwise you play the waiting game for the OEM to put out the update, then wait some more for the carrier to bloatify it, then wait some more for the small base of devs to de-bloatify it.
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quarlow said:
Its as possible as the source for GB turning into a GB update. That is to say, no its not possible.
LG needs to make the update and bake in the drivers. It took them a few days shy of a year for GB, maybe they can shave that down to 9 months for ICS. So, as Google announces 4.1, start looking for 4.0.
The Galaxy Nexus is not going to provide any ports to the Thrill, or any other device. Its the only device using that CPU/GPU combo. Its the only device to date with its CPU at all (processor in Thrill is different model number 4460 vs 4430, it may as well be entirely different) If ICS is your goal, the Galaxy Nexus is the fastest and easiest way. Otherwise you play the waiting game for the OEM to put out the update, then wait some more for the carrier to bloatify it, then wait some more for the small base of devs to de-bloatify it.
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thank your for you input on this matter. Can you please tell me which Galaxy S II is better i777 or the i727 because I am thinking of returning my LG Thrill 4G for the Skyrocket?
The skyrocket has lte actual 4g that if the only difference add far as performance
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The skyrocket has lte actual 4g that if the only difference add far as performance
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That's the only difference in data speed. That's also the only area the i727 is better. In EVERY other way the i777 is better.
They have the same screen resolution, but because the 727 screen is bigger, so the pixel density is lower, most people won't notice, but its worth mentioning.
The processor in the 727 is a qualcomm chip oc'd to 1.5 GHz, vs a Exynos chip at 1.2 GHz. People say the qualcomm chip is inferior, and choppy. Most people won't notice it, but it is there. The exynos can be oc'd higher than the qualcomm chip. The qualcomm chip is the reason it won't get i777 or i9100 ROM ports. With the i777 and i9100 running the same chip you can port any i9100 ROM really easy.
I don't know specifics on GPU, but its widely accepted the i777 has better graphics and 3D processing.
The 777 is thinner and lighter.
They both have disabled nfc on board. Att to possibly unlock at a later time, maybe at ICS rollout.
If you have LTE coverage you need to think about the choice, if you don't have LTE, there is absolutely no reason to get the 727. I talked a little about other differences in your other thread.
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Its as possible as the source for GB turning into a GB update. That is to say, no its not possible.
LG needs to make the update and bake in the drivers. It took them a few days shy of a year for GB, maybe they can shave that down to 9 months for ICS. So, as Google announces 4.1, start looking for 4.0.
The Galaxy Nexus is not going to provide any ports to the Thrill, or any other device. Its the only device using that CPU/GPU combo. Its the only device to date with its CPU at all (processor in Thrill is different model number 4460 vs 4430, it may as well be entirely different) If ICS is your goal, the Galaxy Nexus is the fastest and easiest way. Otherwise you play the waiting game for the OEM to put out the update, then wait some more for the carrier to bloatify it, then wait some more for the small base of devs to de-bloatify it.
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Did you check the TI site and read the 4460 documentation? The processors are almost identical. The 4460 is just a little more capable. Its still in the OMAP4 family with the exact same architecture. We'll have the LG gingerbread drivers shortly as well as the galaxy nexus ICS drivers which will get us started there. Kernel shouldn't be too big of an issue as again, same architecture on CPU, same exact gpu. Yea its gonna take a lot of time to get everything working but we don't need LG to do it. GB was more of a shot in the dark for this phone than ICS will be. Zero omap4 devices released with GB but it still got ported to a couple Motorola devices. ICS released for two devices, both omap4.
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I said this about GB too. I hope I'm wrong for all of your sake's. When people were saying GB was around the corner (in September), and I said December, people said I was being too cynical. Well ... here we are, December is right around the corner, and the GB port is not flashable in CWM, nor is it complete. I over-cynicized a little, but not much.
I think it's all great on paper, just like building a AOSP GB build for the phone looked simple, did that ever actually get off the ground?
As I look in the past, I use that to forecast the future. My guess is that there is no where near a functional daily use ROM for the Thrill until a ICS build comes from LG (I would guess no sooner than July). If the the Nexus S and Captivate running the exact same hardware (CPU/GPU plus lots of others) both made from the same company, cannot share ROMs with lots of dev support, I just find it hard to believe that a phone with a similar chip, packaged with other chips (WiFi, BT, USB, Power, comination unknown) by another OEM is not going to provide useful drivers for the small dev community here. Again, I would love to be wrong, but ...
To be honest I think the Thrill is more Thrilling (rim-shot) because it's an underdog, and it feels like a start-up, ground-floor opportunity to build and jury rig everything and frankenstein it together. I think it would be fun, and I would have loved to have been involved had I stayed. But, I moved on, as many others have. I can't wait for months for something like this when I will only have that phone for a year. I don't hang on to old tech, I sold my Captivate and it paid for my Galaxy S II, talk about the circle of life.
The Thrill is definately an underrated phone, but it's also not the highest end phone. As I said before, as it stands it's definately the best AT&T phone for less than $100, it's the king of the mid-range offerings. Unless you can get the i777 for $50 or less, like many places have advertised for Black Friday.
I wish everyone the best of luck with the Thrill, but the reality train is leaving the station, and I feel my welcome may just be wearing thin here.
It seems that LG doesnt really care about the consumer because they release a phone and update the firmware when its not even new anymore and its funny because it seems like the Thrill will be getting GB and everyone else will be getting ICS. =(
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It seems that LG doesnt really care about the consumer because they release a phone and update the firmware when its not even new anymore and its funny because it seems like the Thrill will be getting GB and everyone else will be getting ICS. =(
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it'll be about 3-8 months before other devices will recieve ics. samsung has the same problem. they still haven't updated the charge, fascinate, captivate and infuse.
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Android 4.0 Source is out! Any chance to get this in the LG Thrill 4G I would definitely be keeping it then.
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Yes it will Ricardo from the cyanogenmod team in charge of lg devices posted a video on YouTube showing ICS running on the O3D. He posted on his google + that it took him a couple of hours to get the touchscreen working but it shows you that work has begun and we might see ICS sooner than you think.
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Yes it will Ricardo from the cyanogenmod team in charge of lg devices posted a video on YouTube showing ICS running on the O3D. He posted on his google + that it took him a couple of hours to get the touchscreen working but it shows you that work has begun and we might see ICS sooner than you think.
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i got so excited when i saw his videos of it on the o3d i almost jumped and threw my laptop!!! hahaha
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i got so excited when i saw his videos of it on the o3d i almost jumped and threw my laptop!!! hahaha
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This is after all the reason why I got this phone cuz of the chipset and the fact that ICS is designed for it
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Yes it will Ricardo from the cyanogenmod team in charge of lg devices posted a video on YouTube showing ICS running on the O3D. He posted on his google + that it took him a couple of hours to get the touchscreen working but it shows you that work has begun and we might see ICS sooner than you think.
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Thats very good news , Hopefully it gets released soon. Instead of using GB I would go straight to ICS when its released. Does anyone have the link to the video because I cant seem to find it.
Those types of ports that are half functional are popping up every where for tons of phones.
They will not support some basic phone functions for months. There is no way 3D will work until LG builds the drivers, and they won't release them until they release the full ICS update. Things like WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, data, etc will all (or mostly) be missing for quite a while. Making ICS run and making a daily driver with ICS are two very different things.
I watched that video, there is already a comporable port running on the i9100. Proof that both using similar but different omap4 processors means nothing. The processor is the most simple basic part of the functionality, its everything else that's going to be hard.
Try to keep some perspective, and realistic hopes.
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Those types of ports that are half functional are popping up every where for tons of phones.
They will not support some basic phone functions for months. There is no way 3D will work until LG builds the drivers, and they won't release them until they release the full ICS update. Things like WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, data, etc will all (or mostly) be missing for quite a while. Making ICS run and making a daily driver with ICS are two very different things.
I watched that video, there is already a comporable port running on the i9100. Proof that both using similar but different omap4 processors means nothing. The processor is the most simple basic part of the functionality, its everything else that's going to be hard.
Try to keep some perspective, and realistic hopes.
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seriously i know your trying to help us keep a grip on our excitement.. but its starting to get annoying seeing your comments pop up here all the time after you switched weeks ago.. and they are all how the thrill has potential but im so happy with my choice... like we cant even get our hopes up because your too afraid of our dreams getting dashed to pieces... we should all follow your example. i know thats not what you mean but it feels that way...
like many others i choose this phone based off the hardware specs... so i will be sticking it out for a few months at least if not for a few years.
we know the decision you made to switch and that you have support for the thrill and knew it to be a good device.. there is no rule about posting in forums for phones you dont have.. but please... please ease back a bit on clarifying all the realities for us...
there is nothing wrong in wishing.. we had no development for ages, it feels like, and now we have some things to look forward too, thats all!
so give us our hopes please... *tears up* its all we have!
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Those types of ports that are half functional are popping up every where for tons of phones.
They will not support some basic phone functions for months. There is no way 3D will work until LG builds the drivers, and they won't release them until they release the full ICS update. Things like WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, data, etc will all (or mostly) be missing for quite a while. Making ICS run and making a daily driver with ICS are two very different things.
I watched that video, there is already a comporable port running on the i9100. Proof that both using similar but different omap4 processors means nothing. The processor is the most simple basic part of the functionality, its everything else that's going to be hard.
Try to keep some perspective, and realistic hopes.
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He's a legit cm dev. Its NOT a half functional port. Its the beginning of an ICS source build a day after source was released. It took him a few hours to get touchscreen working. Its NOT one of the fake SDK ports that have been floating around. They've already said it will be ATLEAST 2 months before we should even start expecting any updates on cm9. Hows your build of ics going? Your claims on timeline, etc, MUST be based on your own firsthand progress, correct? You are actually contributing something to the community with all your development knowledge, correct?
You claim to be saving us from false hopes. But the way I take that is that you are assuming we as a community are to ignorant and naive to realize the time/process of getting a new OS on a new device. NOBODY here has said we expect this to be a rapid process. We know it takes time.
Hop on your faux white horse and ride back over to your fanboy forum. You've contributed absolutely nothing to this forum and I assume the same is probably true there. But seeing how as you actually have that phone you have a reason to lurk over there.
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Wait wait wait...
You mean AT&T doesn't give super fast firmware updates to their phones?!
Here's what I will say about this phone so far...
I like it. It's treated me better than any Samsung phone I've had. It does everything I need it to.
I can't really remember ever saying "I wish this phone could..." that I wouldn't say about any other phone.
I hear people talk about how fast this phone is and that phone is and how fast the GSII compared to the Thrill. But how much faster is faster? The web browser pops up a second faster? A file is downloaded 10 seconds faster? I don't really think a lot of that is that big of a deal. It almost reminds me of the Crackberry forums when they were talking about not going to Android because the email isn't push (which isn't true) and so you got your emails a whole 30 seconds later. I mean, c'mon, how many of us are in a position where if we don't get that email 30 seconds faster our entire corporation loses billions?
I think it'd be cool to get 2.3 or above right now because there are a couple of games I'd like to play that are on 2.3 or above. But considering I have 25 games already installed and over 1/2 of those I ahven't touched, it's okay.
I've had a few Samsung phones and everyone of them I had had a lot of issues. I went through 8 Captivates. Now I did have to return one Thrill and exchange it but every Samsung phone I've had, I've had to get replaced at least twice. I keep saying I want a Note but then think about how bad I've had it with Samsung phones.
Phone technology is crazy. The thrill came, then the GSII, then the GSII skyrocket and the HTC Vivid, then there are three new Galaxy devices coming to AT&T in the next 2-3 months, and whatever awesome quad core devices, and then pretty soon we'll have the hologram phones in which you tell the phone to contact someone and they pop out of the phone like in Star Wars.
Honestly, I think I need a couple more pairs of shoes more than I need a newer phone.
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He's a legit cm dev. Its NOT a half functional port. Its the beginning of an ICS source build a day after source was released. It took him a few hours to get touchscreen working. Its NOT one of the fake SDK ports that have been floating around. They've already said it will be ATLEAST 2 months before we should even start expecting any updates on cm9. Hows your build of ics going? Your claims on timeline, etc, MUST be based on your own firsthand progress, correct? You are actually contributing something to the community with all your development knowledge, correct?
You claim to be saving us from false hopes. But the way I take that is that you are assuming we as a community are to ignorant and naive to realize the time/process of getting a new OS on a new device. NOBODY here has said we expect this to be a rapid process. We know it takes time.
Hop on your faux white horse and ride back over to your fanboy forum. You've contributed absolutely nothing to this forum and I assume the same is probably true there. But seeing how as you actually have that phone you have a reason to lurk over there.
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I won't get drawn into a pissing contest regarding dev support of the Optimus 3D vs the Galaxy S II (i9100).
But, I will respond.
I'm sorry I over estimated and called that port half functional, you are right: its not a half functional port.
The build status of CM9 for the phone that half the Cyanogen team was given months ago is unknown to me. I made no claims on timelines, just forecasts based on the past and opinion.
There is indeed a very similar ICS ROM built for the i9100 (and by extension the i777) from the source that just dropped, but I cannot comment as to whether or not it was put together by a "legit cm dev."
I am not a developer, no. I am just an observer, an observer that tends to be realistic with expectations, and generally accurate.
I don't accuse the community here of being ignorant or naive. I can see that some people here do have realistic expectations.
I too was once an Aria, Captivate and Thrill fanboy. Today I am a GS II fanboy. I picked my team, as you have too. I don't think there is anyone on xda that isn't passionate about their phone.
I will not dignify further condescending comments from you with a response. This is the last time you will see me on the Thrill forums. Do not take my future lack of response as an admission of your perceived superiority. And do not take my comments to imply I believe I am better than you. I know you built a ROM, and were the first to share how to port O3D ROMs. Just because I never used your contributions I will not be so arrogant to say they don't exist.
And with that, I will be on my way. Again, best of luck to every one with a Thrill.
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Just checked out the optimus 3d thread about ICS and it seems that Ricardo is getting a lot of progress done and it seems like its getting done quickly. So hopefully it gets released before Christmas
. BTW I know that's still a long wait still but it would all be worth it.
i did not want to open a new thread so here are some excitment news that i have written in the third page of this thread:
"well i gues it will be easy for me not to buy a samsung phone ever again.
motorola and intel sign on a long term agreement and medfield really kicking ARM a** at least in the few benchmarks that were published and with lower consumption according to the benchmarks.
so my next phone will be a motorola phone with intel inside it.
goodbye samsung and yours sh*tty support.
i hope many of you will do the same as me. show them the power of the customers. i hope samsung will lose all their customers to motorola!!!!!!!!!!!"
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not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
i have this phone only for a year, and 2.3 is the last version i'll get.
but maybe we need to blame google because other company also dropping their support after a year.
maybe it is time to consider microsoft and intel combination. if they are doing such a great work on pc, and intel is about to release their cpu for mobiles, that combination will kick android a** i hope. i can't believe that this is the last update i will get, i have 2.3 for months, i dont care about crappy face recognitaion in 2.3.6 i want hardware acceleration.
i am staring to hate android. open source is great, until you are not getting anymore updates maybe the middle between android open source and ios is the answer like microsoft.
microsoft bring us directx games to cell phones and i am leaving crappy android today.
cry cry cry
If you think you're going to be better off with a Windows Phone, think twice:
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you dont care they dont release anymore update to a phone you recently buy and capable to run ics?
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you dont care they dont release anymore update to a phone you recently buy and capable to run ics?
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fact is, Samsung is a company that is only interesed in your money, just like all other companies out there. They're not a charity organisation. They want you to buy their phones.
the SGS has gotten 2 major firmware updates. eclair to froyo and froyo to gingerbread. There's not alot of phones out there that have gotten the same luck.
Of course it would be nice to receive an ICS updates but frankly i don't care. There's already a good working unofficial ICS rom and official Gingerbread rom does it's job more than pleasant.
I would say it's your loss since samsung always make better phone with better price compare to apple made in china trash. I know the software is not too good buy you have plenty developers here that can help the phone runs better. If you want ics just used one cosmics rom.
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at least apple is still supporting all of their devices.
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Do tell me where I get support for my original iPhone (2g) so I can up date the thing to v4 or even v5 iOS.
At the end of the day the SGS is near 2 years old and seeing as the SGS3 is around the corner I would consider the SGS old!
Anycase there is a ICS ROM for the SGS, just used that and be happy!
onecosmic and cyanogen can not fix the camera and other minor things without the drivers from samsung and i have 2.3 almost 6 months. so no i dont consider one year of updates to be that good. you want your phone, to be updated for a year and then throwit to the garbage?.
one year of updates for a phone who sold millions world wide is not enough and because of people like you it will coninue.
i tried 20 different roms so dont try to sell me that i can try onecosmic rom. the camera and other minor things not working correctly i am on cyanogen mod and i am ont happy with the camera and the battery life, tv out is not working and other minor bugs.
edit: not that i have any bad things to say about onecosmic and cm7 developers i know it is not their fault, they dont have the drivers. so thanks to all the developers out there for their best efforts.
im on 2.3.6... why dont you flash? its smooth as ever. Im happy for what it is. Do yourself a favour and get the value pack rom
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@OP:
That's good for all of us, thanks for a news.
It (eventually) would result that one guy, who is unable to read stickies and apply forum rules will stop spam in this thread...
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I would say it's your loss since samsung always make better phone with better price compare to apple made in china trash. I know the software is not too good buy you have plenty developers here that can help the phone runs better. If you want ics just used one cosmics rom.
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In danger of being flamed as fanboi,
but most of the hardware in "aJphaun" come from company in dispute - Samsung
Have a nICE CREAMy day in a SANDWICH
Thx for reading, press THANKS if u like
It's funny how people count the Eclair to Froyo update as a point for Samsung when the phone was released after Froyo came out, Samsung was just damn late.
I got no problems with samsung. after i found this site i've loved the phone Must thank all the hard working people who just got the intrest to release all kinds of mods etc. they make the phone worth having
I'm usimg Hacksung band the camera works no with zoom. Not as good as samsung camera but its geting there.
Thanks TO alla the developers.
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I've had my sgs for 18+ months now and have had 2 major updates, along with about 400 minor ones instigated myself
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I really don't understand why Samsung says SGS is not capable of running ICS, while it is. I wouldn't go as far as not buying Samsung anymore, but I do think the reason given is BS.
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I really don't understand why Samsung says SGS is not capable of running ICS, while it is. I wouldn't go as far as not buying Samsung anymore, but I do think the reason given is BS.
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Fyi, they're not saying it cant run ics, they're saying it cant run ICS with TouchWiz.
This is exactly why I sold my Sgs 6 months ago!
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To be honest i'd be happy with a good Gingerbread (stock), I don't think it's been as good as the last Froyo 2.2.1 update, which suddenly made the phone work properly.
I think its a shame that there isn't at least a two year life span (a lot of phone contracts are 24 months) in terms of updates, but I also understand this technology is probably one of the fastest moving.
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not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
i have this phone only for a year, and 2.3 is the last version i'll get.
but maybe we need to blame google because other company also dropping their support after a year.
maybe it is time to consider microsoft and intel combination. if they are doing such a great work on pc, and intel is about to release their cpu for mobiles, that combination will kick android a** i hope. i can't believe that this is the last update i will get, i have 2.3 for months !!!!!!!! i dont care about crappy face recognitaion.
android is worst than ios, at least apple is still supporting all of their devices.
i am staring to hate android. open source is great, until you are not getting anymore updates maybe the middle between android open source and ios is the answer like microsoft.
microsoft bring us directx games to cell phones and i am leaving crappy android today.
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Samsung didn't design ALL components in the SGS, they have bought many from THIRD party (like audio part from Wolfson, etc. etc.). You have open source drivers for SOME devices and many of chip-makers sell Chips + Closed drivers with limited support. It's not the Samsung's fault if they don't want release drivers, Samsung use only BINARY drivers for some devices ! Blame some *****ng chip-maker firms. I used to fight a lot with Adaptec to have some source code to make working some $500 Hardware Raid card for FreeBSD some years ago, many chip-maker are VERY reluctant to give drivers code, and it's not a new story in Linux world.
Windows and Intel will make better ? Are you serious or just blind ? Why Vista was so "unstable" in his debut ? Drivers, Drivers and Drivers.. like Android. iOS ? Another joke ? Apple use ONE hardware and chip-makers are forced to give the code (or they're excluded from Apple, so they give all Apple want), iPhone is a very well sell and Apple is one of the richest firm in the world, chip-makers aren't totally stupid if they want to sell million and million of their chips.
And for your information : First ROM for SGS are build in March 2010, latest is Dec 2011, what a poor support..
I can see Samsung absolutely ****ting themselves reading the op. Dumb thread.
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not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
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This is, IMHO, the main Android drawback.
Android is not really "open". It's a marketing hype.
Producers like Samsung make heavy "modifications" to their phones and do not relase their drivers.
We're lucky that SGS has an hardware similar to the Nexus S, otherwise I doubt we could have a stable ICS porting for our phone.
My next phone, if I'll chose again Android, will be a Google Experience One.
Bye.
Hey Guys, will LG release a offical Update for Android 4.2 or 4.3 or 4.4 KK ? Because 20a is slow and i hate custom roms. I love the offical Version !
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Hey Guys, will LG release a offical Update for Android 4.2 or 4.3 or 5 KLP ? Because 20a is slow and i hate custom roms. I love the offical Version !
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Big "NO" to your question.
Must be enough
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Lg service told me that the O4X would be upgraded to 4.2.2... But it is LG...
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LG cries ecause they are not top seller of smartphones, and samsung are. they think : *we dont need to do a better update politics because nobody.will buy our phones * stupid
lg see ? samsung always update their phones. lg 4x hd and galaxy.s3 are released.at the same time..galaxy s3 100% will get android 5 klp and 4x hd takes month to get 4.1 .... omg lg you stupid ... update all your phones and take care of your older flagships ... if.you update more people will buy your products and arent scared of your support and update polictics anymore !!!!
see people love samsung and apple because their support is a dream *o* galaxy s2 was released 2011 and still have the latest firmwares ... lg 2x takes about 1 year to get 4.0 .....noob lg i only.boughz 4x hd because it was cheap. and i thougtlht lg realized their fault and will update ...
noob tegra 3 noob lg support
lg should be closed and cyanogenmod should become a electronic firm and samsung should make a Samsung Galaxy 4X HD ...
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LG cries ecause they are not top seller of smartphones, and samsung are. they think : *we dont need to do a better update politics because nobody.will buy our phones * stupid
lg see ? samsung always update their phones. lg 4x hd and galaxy.s3 are released.at the same time..galaxy s3 100% will get android 5 klp and 4x hd takes month to get 4.1 .... omg lg you stupid ... update all your phones and take care of your older flagships ... if.you update more people will buy your products and arent scared of your support and update polictics anymore !!!!
see people love samsung and apple because their support is a dream *o* galaxy s2 was released 2011 and still have the latest firmwares ... lg 2x takes about 1 year to get 4.0 .....noob lg i only.boughz 4x hd because it was cheap. and i thougtlht lg realized their fault and will update ...
noob tegra 3 noob lg support
lg should be closed and cyanogenmod should become a electronic firm and samsung should make a Samsung Galaxy 4X HD ...
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Hey Guys, will LG release a offical Update for Android 4.2 or 4.3 or 5 KLP ? Because 20a is slow and i hate custom roms. I love the offical Version !
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no, i don't think so. i have had 3 lg phones and not any has been update. the only way for update your lg phone is with roms
Well lg 2x got two upgrades (2.3 and 4.0) so maybe lg 4x should recieve the upgrade to 4.2.2
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I currently own three android devices, LG optimus 4x HD, Samsung galaxy note 2 and sony xperia s. so i am browsing all three xda forums from time to time. how funny that every specific brand owners are dissatisfied with their own manufacturers by saying other brands update devices more frequently than theirs.. what they most said is: My next phone wont be "sony/LG/Samsung"!!!
The fact is: LG really update more than the rest i owned: 4 times firmware minor update + jelly bean update( i live in Netherlands). so at least LG is taking care of it. LG wont update our 4x hd forever, we will always want more and more anyway, so there is no ending...
I also want 4.2.2 or higher version without a doubt, but not desperately compare with other ppl.lets wait and see. And please stop spreading faulty information and misleading others. You should be responsible for what you said!! Lets hope we will get 4.2 or even higher, otherwise it is just a phone basically, be happy and enjoy what you have, its not so bad after all....
Skyfall6 said:
I currently own three android devices, LG optimus 4x HD, Samsung galaxy note 2 and sony xperia s. so i am browsing all three xda forums from time to time. how funny that every specific brand owners are dissatisfied with their own manufacturers by saying other brands update devices more frequently than theirs.. what they most said is: My next phone wont be "sony/LG/Samsung"!!!
The fact is: LG really update more than the rest i owned: 4 times firmware minor update + jelly bean update( i live in Netherlands). so at least LG is taking care of it. LG wont update our 4x hd forever, we will always want more and more anyway, so there is no ending...
I also want 4.2.2 or higher version without a doubt, but not desperately compare with other ppl.lets wait and see. And please stop spreading faulty information and misleading others. You should be responsible for what you said!! Lets hope we will get 4.2 or even higher, otherwise it is just a phone basically, be happy and enjoy what you have, its not so bad after all....
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I have said many times before. We bought our phones with ICS software on it. Nowhere did LG say that we would get free upgrades, they are only responsible for fixing bugs. If you are 'forced' to stick with ICS then it is fine for them as the phone still does EVERYTHING you bought it to do. The problems with 'Stock' JB go to show that they created it through good-will, to give the developers something to play with and to keep us guys/gals on places like XDA happy - 95% of the people who buy the phones couldn't care less about getting an upgrade to JB as long as the phone actually makes calls, does texts etc
The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?
If you don't like the phone then change it. If you don't like the manufacter then don't buy from them again, but unless you buy a Nexus product you will always suffer from delays in releasing new versions - the manufacturers don't make money from doing that so they will focus on new products that they can make money from.
SimonTS said:
Ab-so-f***ing-lute-ly
I have said many times before. We bought our phones with ICS software on it. Nowhere did LG say that we would get free upgrades, they are only responsible for fixing bugs. If you are 'forced' to stick with ICS then it is fine for them as the phone still does EVERYTHING you bought it to do. The problems with 'Stock' JB go to show that they created it through good-will, to give the developers something to play with and to keep us guys/gals on places like XDA happy - 95% of the people who buy the phones couldn't care less about getting an upgrade to JB as long as the phone actually makes calls, does texts etc
The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?
If you don't like the phone then change it. If you don't like the manufacter then don't buy from them again, but unless you buy a Nexus product you will always suffer from delays in releasing new versions - the manufacturers don't make money from doing that so they will focus on new products that they can make money from.
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Exactly!!! Cant agree more.:good: I think those thread should be eliminated...
SimonTS said:
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I have said many times before. We bought our phones with ICS software on it. Nowhere did LG say that we would get free upgrades, they are only responsible for fixing bugs. If you are 'forced' to stick with ICS then it is fine for them as the phone still does EVERYTHING you bought it to do. The problems with 'Stock' JB go to show that they created it through good-will, to give the developers something to play with and to keep us guys/gals on places like XDA happy - 95% of the people who buy the phones couldn't care less about getting an upgrade to JB as long as the phone actually makes calls, does texts etc
The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?
If you don't like the phone then change it. If you don't like the manufacter then don't buy from them again, but unless you buy a Nexus product you will always suffer from delays in releasing new versions - the manufacturers don't make money from doing that so they will focus on new products that they can make money from.
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SimonTS said:
Ab-so-f***ing-lute-ly
I have said many times before. We bought our phones with ICS software on it. Nowhere did LG say that we would get free upgrades, they are only responsible for fixing bugs. If you are 'forced' to stick with ICS then it is fine for them as the phone still does EVERYTHING you bought it to do. The problems with 'Stock' JB go to show that they created it through good-will, to give the developers something to play with and to keep us guys/gals on places like XDA happy - 95% of the people who buy the phones couldn't care less about getting an upgrade to JB as long as the phone actually makes calls, does texts etc
The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?
If you don't like the phone then change it. If you don't like the manufacter then don't buy from them again, but unless you buy a Nexus product you will always suffer from delays in releasing new versions - the manufacturers don't make money from doing that so they will focus on new products that they can make money from.
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I do not entirely lean towards your viewpoint nor do I think the car analogy is apt to this discussion
If all we wanted to use our phones for was make calls and send texts,I'd agree whole heartedly nor would we have to fork out insane amounts for most flagships
In that case,why not let us make do with cheap Chinese Android clones
This phone was one of 2012`s top end phones along with the S3 and HTC One X
Even at that LG was one of the last brand names to release a JB update
To think support for a flagship is/will be ending after an update or two is extortion IMHO seeing all they have to do is find a way to port it on older flagships
Or do the phone makers expect us to buy every shiny and new gadget every 6-12 months because official updates have stopped?
I personally do not expect updates for the mid and low end phones
But if one buys a top end flagship, such a person should get treatment setting them apart
@ the creator of this thread,its wishful thing to be lusting for KLP when 4.2.2 or 4.3 is yet to drop for 4X HD
I think 4.2.2 may drop officially for 4x hd and that will be it
Most of the top end brands are pushing 2 and 3 GB memory phones out for now and KLP devices will probably have such specs
Recall the 4x HD has just 1GB ram
You might have to look at the custom ROMs you despise for KLP
Sorry
lg~optimusprime said:
I do not entirely lean towards your viewpoint nor do I think the car analogy is apt to this discussion
If all we wanted to use our phones for was make calls and send texts,I'd agree whole heartedly nor would we have to fork out insane amounts for most flagships
In that case,why not let us make do with cheap Chinese Android clones
This phone was one of 2012`s top end phones along with the S3 and HTC One X
Even at that LG was one of the last brand names to release a JB update
To think support for a flagship is/will be ending after an update or two is extortion IMHO seeing all they have to do is find a way to port it on older flagships
Or do the phone makers expect us to buy every shiny and new gadget every 6-12 months because official updates have stopped?
I personally do not expect updates for the mid and low end phones
But if one buys a top end flagship, such a person should get treatment setting them apart
@ the creator of this thread,its wishful thing to be lusting for KLP when 4.2.2 or 4.3 is yet to drop for 4X HD
I think 4.2.2 may drop officially for 4x hd and that will be it
Most of the top end brands are pushing 2 and 3 GB memory phones out for now and KLP devices will probably have such specs
Recall the 4x HD has just 1GB ram
You might have to look at the custom ROMs you despise for KLP
Sorry
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Why should you get special treatment just because you buy the 'flagship' model? You pay extra for the extra specifications, not in order to get a service contract entitling you to free upgrades - no matter what product you are buying that is the case.
Of course manufacturers expect you to buy a new shiny phone every 12 months - that's why they keep releasing them. They are in the business of making money, which they don't get from all the work involved in upgrading an old phone to a new software version.
You need to remember that we are in the minority, 95%+ of the people who buy phones don't care about upgrades, they just want something that works, and works well. Producing an upgrade almost always results in a software thart is not as stable as the original because they are, naturally, putting less effort in to creating it. I always find it surprising when someone comes on to XDA and says they don't want to put a custom ROM on their device - OK, so there are a few bits on here that aren't specifically about custom ROMs, but not much.
It would be lovely if every manufacturer gave free upgrades, but they never say they will and it certainly shouldn't be expected. Nexus devices are different as Google writes the Android software and has a business interest in ensuring they provide free and timely upgrades to show off the latest and greatest code.
lg~optimusprime said:
I do not entirely lean towards your viewpoint nor do I think the car analogy is apt to this discussion
If all we wanted to use our phones for was make calls and send texts,I'd agree whole heartedly nor would we have to fork out insane amounts for most flagships
In that case,why not let us make do with cheap Chinese Android clones
This phone was one of 2012`s top end phones along with the S3 and HTC One X
Even at that LG was one of the last brand names to release a JB update
To think support for a flagship is/will be ending after an update or two is extortion IMHO seeing all they have to do is find a way to port it on older flagships
Or do the phone makers expect us to buy every shiny and new gadget every 6-12 months because official updates have stopped?
I personally do not expect updates for the mid and low end phones
But if one buys a top end flagship, such a person should get treatment setting them apart
@ the creator of this thread,its wishful thing to be lusting for KLP when 4.2.2 or 4.3 is yet to drop for 4X HD
I think 4.2.2 may drop officially for 4x hd and that will be it
Most of the top end brands are pushing 2 and 3 GB memory phones out for now and KLP devices will probably have such specs
Recall the 4x HD has just 1GB ram
You might have to look at the custom ROMs you despise for KLP
Sorry
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If you already knew that LG is always the last one to update their devices but why are you still buying it??? Personally I am also looking forwards to the updates, but I bought this phone because it has the good hardware, nice UI and relatively cheaper price when compare to S3 and HTC One X. You would be licking your finger to get a cheaper Chinese one, but you cant due to the availability cross western world. And dont insulting the chinese manufacture here because you know nothing about it...
"The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?"
I do not think arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. your statement about demanding a free upgrade to windows 8 is just wrong, windows operating systems are supported, updated with security fixes, refinements and enhancements for many years, as android users we seem to be forgotten about within the space of a few months, I do not expect to receive KLP or any other new system after that but we are still on Jelly Bean so we should expect to the have the refinements, fixes, security updates that are currently available, yes you are correct in saying this was an ICS phone but if LG make the statement that an upgrade to Jelly Bean would happen then we should expect supoort for it and this is the reason I purchased the phone. BTW Jelly Bean was not goodwill by LG, it was to sell more phones, if you really believe these companies are that nice to their customers you are being a little naive.
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Skyfall6 said:
If you already knew that LG is always the last one to update their devices but why are you still buying it??? Personally I am also looking forwards to the updates, but I bought this phone because it has the good hardware, nice UI and relatively cheaper price when compare to S3 and HTC One X. You would be licking your finger to get a cheaper Chinese one, but you cant due to the availability cross western world. And dont insulting the chinese manufacture here because you know nothing about it...
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I bought for the same reasons you bought yours
Relative cheap compared to the One X and S3,very good hardware too
Anyone with an above average computer knowledge knows software is still playing catch to hardware which has always evolved faster
Only now to see the greed of capitalism starring at us all with their stoppage of updates after 1 or 2 update releases
Too bad
Some Chinese names like Pipo and Onda for tablets stand out
Also names like Jiayu and Zopo are one to look out for in high end Phones
That some Chinese brand gadgets don't cut it don't mean ALL Chinese brands
Personally, I'm using a Pipo Max M9 quad core tablet and why the software could have been better written to amplify its hardware,I could not ask for a better made premium look and feel tablets without breaking my piggy bank
Below are the Antutu scores which I ran myself
(Update: could not up load the image. Don't know why but the Antutu scores was 16104 thrashing S3,Nexus 7 and 10 and been at par with the Note 2' That should increase if overclocked)
SimonTS said:
Why should you get special treatment just because you buy the 'flagship' model? You pay extra for the extra specifications, not in order to get a service contract entitling you to free upgrades - no matter what product you are buying that is the case.
Of course manufacturers expect you to buy a new shiny phone every 12 months - that's why they keep releasing them. They are in the business of making money, which they don't get from all the work involved in upgrading an old phone to a new software version.
You need to remember that we are in the minority, 95%+ of the people who buy phones don't care about upgrades, they just want something that works, and works well. Producing an upgrade almost always results in a software thart is not as stable as the original because they are, naturally, putting less effort in to creating it. I always find it surprising when someone comes on to XDA and says they don't want to put a custom ROM on their device - OK, so there are a few bits on here that aren't specifically about custom ROMs, but not much.
It would be lovely if every manufacturer gave free upgrades, but they never say they will and it certainly shouldn't be expected. Nexus devices are different as Google writes the Android software and has a business interest in ensuring they provide free and timely upgrades to show off the latest and greatest code.
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I don't think its too much if other manufacturers could follow Google's lead
After all, the Nexus products are in the top end of the tablet and smartphone food chain
Its not to much to ask for 3-4 updates for the flagship/top end gadgets
Recall asking for more led Oliver Twist out of his life of deprivation to a more structured one
Not every market follows the Western nations model of phone contracts rather you have an outright purchase
But knowing an economy like America of which 70% is based on consumer spending is the model run by many Western states,I expect them to continue their shiny and best,latest and new policy
Hopefully the top end Chinese gadgets makers can throw in the cat amongst the pigeons
But till then,its gonna be the same ol same ol
my view from outside
lg~optimusprime said:
I do not entirely lean towards your viewpoint nor do I think the car analogy is apt to this discussion
If all we wanted to use our phones for was make calls and send texts,I'd agree whole heartedly nor would we have to fork out insane amounts for most flagships
In that case,why not let us make do with cheap Chinese Android clones
This phone was one of 2012`s top end phones along with the S3 and HTC One X
Even at that LG was one of the last brand names to release a JB update
To think support for a flagship is/will be ending after an update or two is extortion IMHO seeing all they have to do is find a way to port it on older flagships
Or do the phone makers expect us to buy every shiny and new gadget every 6-12 months because official updates have stopped?
I personally do not expect updates for the mid and low end phones
But if one buys a top end flagship, such a person should get treatment setting them apart
@ the creator of this thread,its wishful thing to be lusting for KLP when 4.2.2 or 4.3 is yet to drop for 4X HD
I think 4.2.2 may drop officially for 4x hd and that will be it
Most of the top end brands are pushing 2 and 3 GB memory phones out for now and KLP devices will probably have such specs
Recall the 4x HD has just 1GB ram
You might have to look at the custom ROMs you despise for KLP
Sorry
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i've owned an HTC, an Huawei and now a Motorola... while atm considering to buy the p880.
It seems to me that LG is kind of more reasonable in all terms of product-strategy than maybe HTC, Samsung, or Motorola. They have a wide range of phones, but those are at the same time not like "me too" models like Samsung's, who has phones for absolutely everey demand.
And they still sell phones like the L3.
That makes me hope the p880 has a kind of long planned product cycle too and they'll release 4.3 for the p880, because it has BT4.0 hardware, which will only be supported by Android 4.3 and up. and it's still jelly bean. so perhaps it makes sense to skip 4.2 and get 4.3 instead, which also seem to get far better multi core support...
but nonetheless it's nice to have 4.1 sources released, so it's possible to finetune.
stat'o'flow said:
i've owned an HTC, an Huawei and now a Motorola... while atm considering to buy the p880.
It seems to me that LG is kind of more reasonable in all terms of product-strategy than maybe HTC, Samsung, or Motorola. They have a wide range of phones, but those are at the same time not like "me too" models like Samsung's, who has phones for absolutely everey demand.
And they still sell phones like the L3.
That makes me hope the p880 has a kind of long planned product cycle too and they'll release 4.3 for the p880, because it has BT4.0 hardware, which will only be supported by Android 4.3 and up. and it's still jelly bean. so perhaps it makes sense to skip 4.2 and get 4.3 instead, which also seem to get far better multi core support...
but nonetheless it's nice to have 4.1 sources released, so it's possible to finetune.
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I like your thinkwise ! thank u, the hope die at last ! LG for the win ! 4X HD have potencial.
Sent from my LG Optimus 4X HD using xda-developers App
Any rumors circulating yet anywhere about an upgrade from 4.1.2? The battery life is really bad.
I've done everything I can to maximize it. (Install root, juice defender, un-install certain system apps, turn off location reporting in GMaps, keep screen brightness at 50%, etc...)
Hoping an official LG update will help out some time in the near future. I'd like to see 4.2 or 4.3 in Q4 this year. But I have no idea if that will happen or not. Phone is awesome, just really let down by battery life on JB.
Why not oppen a request for lg?
Look the htc one s : https://www.change.org/petitions/htc-give-the-one-s-continued-support-like-the-one-x