Google does NOT care if you root your Nexus! - Nexus 5 General

I've seen a lot of people fretting about being able to RMA their nexus after unlocking/rooting/trying different ROMS & kernels. Likewise there are conversations about & guides about how to reset the device to hide the fact it has ever been unlocked. This is all an absolutely unnecessary worry.
So, to put everyone at ease I share with all XDA'rs the answer I got from Google when I asked "Hey guys, will rooting wreck my warranty?" I think you will all find this to utterly unambiguous.
Thank you for contacting Google!
Warranties and RMA are still covered *regardless* if a device was rooted.
We are not trying to prevent customers from unlocking the bootloader and installing a new operating system that allows for "rooting".
Android has always provided customers the ability to do that on Nexus devices, and encouraged other OEMs to do the same. So in that sense we are not against "rooting."
This being said, we can't guarantee full advertised/promised functionality if the source code for the Android OS has been modified as the functionality may have changed.
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There you go folks, it's a developer's device so use it to it's full potential. This appears to be Google boilerplate so you're looking at an off-the-cuff response from some random support staffer. (I couldn't import the pretty formatting.)
Think any other brand/manufacturer would have a similar answer to the same question?
Hope this gives everyone a nice warm feeling -- and I suppose I should sign off begging you to hit the 'thanks' button. :angel:
EDIT: Just to clarify, this about Google's North American policy - it appears that they follow this throughout Europe as well, and that European law probably reinforces this. Still, it can't hurt for anyone to check with Google themselves. Also, as per the thread title, this is about Google. If your warranty is held by anyone else this info may have no relevance at all.

NotFromMountainView said:
I've...
Hope this gives everyone a nice warm feeling -- and I suppose I should sign off begging you to hit the 'thanks' button. :angel:
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Is this real? I know they don't care, but would they really say it in writing? Do you have the actual email?

aooga said:
Is this real? I know they don't care, but would they really say it in writing? Do you have the actual email?
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Yes, I just cut & pasted the actual response as I got it -- but lost the *bullet point formatting. Other than that I omitted the Dear [my name] & the rest of the boilerplate about contacting Google for any other follow-up or other questions.
I understand your question it sounds almost too good to be true.

This is fantastic. Thanks for sharing.

NotFromMountainView said:
Yes, I just cut & pasted the actual response as I got it -- but lost the *bullet point formatting. Other than that I omitted the Dear [my name] & the rest of the boilerplate about contacting Google for any other follow-up or other questions.
I understand your question it sounds almost too good to be true.
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Cool. Good to know.

They provided us with the tools to unlock/lock our bootloader and set up a website to show us exactly how to do it. I think it couldn't be anymore obvious that they don't care that you stuck some binaries on the /system partition so you could run Titanium Backup

NotFromMountainView said:
I've seen a lot of people fretting about being able to RMA their nexus after unlocking/rooting/trying different ROMS & kernels. Likewise there are conversations about & guides about how to reset the device to hide the fact it has ever been unlocked. This is all an absolutely unnecessary worry.
So, to put everyone at ease I share with all XDA'rs the answer I got from Google when I asked "Hey guys, will rooting wreck my warranty?" I think you will all find this to utterly unambiguous.
There you go folks, it's a developer's device so use it to it's full potential. This appears to be Google boilerplate so you're looking at an off-the-cuff response from some random support staffer. (I couldn't import the pretty formatting.)
Think any other brand/manufacturer would have a similar answer to the same question?
Hope this gives everyone a nice warm feeling -- and I suppose I should sign off begging you to hit the 'thanks' button. :angel:
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Sorry little edit. Its not advertised as a developers device. Nowhere in google's ads or their nexus page does it says "developer". I'd still be wary of RMA with root if you highly modified system apps and such.
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monkeypaws said:
Sorry little edit. Its not advertised as a developers device. Nowhere in google's ads or their nexus page does it says "developer". I'd still be wary of RMA with root if you highly modified system apps and such.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
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It never hurts to be wary. And it anyone managed to overclock the device so astronomically that it burst into flames there may be some pushback from Google. But the email is, as I said, unambiguous.
As to the suggested edit, I never said anything about advertising, but certainly you can tap 7 times and be rewarded with "Congratulations, you are now a developer!" That, as well as well as crachel's point seem to weigh towards it being referred to as a developer's device -- at least casually.

yup. ive always told people that if its a hardware issue, google will rma it, even if its rooted. but if its a software issue, most likely they wont. google themselves looked for a way to give us the means to unlock our bootloaders, and fastboot oem unlock is the gift they gave us with the nexus one
i myself have sent in devices that are still rooted, with custom roms, to get rma'd. google never gave me issue.

simms22 said:
yup. ive always told people that if its a hardware issue, google will rma it, even if its rooted. but if its a software issue, most likely they wont. google themselves looked for a way to give us the means to unlock our bootloaders, and fastboot oem unlock is the gift they gave us with the nexus one
i myself have sent in devices that are still rooted, with custom roms, to get rma'd. google never gave me issue.
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simms22: My guess is that if there's any question of the problem actually being a custom OS issue just re-flash/reset to stock & any remaining hardware issues will be dealt with by Google. My key point was that nobody need worry about resetting any flag that it had been unlocked at some point. From your experience & what they've said and done I think it would take some phenomenally destructive code before they'd even raise the issue.

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simms22: My guess is that if there's any question of the problem actually being a custom OS issue just re-flash/reset to stock & any remaining hardware issues will be dealt with by Google. My key point was that nobody need worry about resetting any flag that it had been unlocked at some point. From your experience & what they've said and done I think it would take some phenomenally destructive code before they'd even raise the issue.
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when the nexus one just came out, there was a big name google developer that stopped in xda and helped us out every once in a while. i wish i could remember his name. sometimes we even got "leaked" code directly from google. that would never have happened if google cared that we had root.

simms22 said:
when the nexus one just came out, there was a big name google developer that stopped in xda and helped us out every once in a while. i wish i could remember his name. sometimes we even got "leaked" code directly from google. that would never have happened if google cared that we had root.
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That is just great! And just one more reason that I find it really hard to become overwrought over rattling buttons.
An obvious extension of this is that on support calls (or email) one can mention root/kernel/ROM without fear. Heck, Google might even want to know how mods perform.

But this is till the time we can RMA it which google is handling but when our warranty will expire we will have take it to Lg service center and I doubt that they will also give the same reply.
Policies for both of them must be different.

LG will most likely not be so understanding regarding rooting in country`s where there you can`t buy a Nexus in the Play store but in a shop.

gee2012 said:
LG will most likely not be so understanding regarding rooting in country`s where there you can`t buy a Nexus in the Play store but in a shop.
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LG wont be understanding, period. Its only google that will except rooted devices.

If you bought another/extended warranty from your carrier or if your carrier import and service your phone then I think you have to keep hands in yr pockets they may not have a user friendly policy as Google's seems to ...

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LG wont be understanding, period. Its only google that will except rooted devices.
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What do you think could be the reason Google doesn`t offer Nexus devices in all country`s instead of in selected country`s only?
Besides the obvious $$ reason for LG making more money

gee2012 said:
What do you think could be the reason Google doesn`t offer Nexus devices in all country`s instead of selected country`s only?
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there could be many, most likely legal though. maybe even something with taxes or the currency being used in that country.

Hi,
I asked too about root, unlocked bootloader/custom rom (custom Android Kit-Kat software) and warranty LG/Google, the French support is light and evasive (even if I detailed all the points):
Google traduction D):
Thank you for contacting the Google team about your Nexus 5. My name is and I'm Rozenn your contact today.
I understand your desire to rooter your phone because it is of course one of the benefits of owning the Nexus 5 and the android system.
However, if you need to claim warranty, we will ask you to return the phone to the Android version of Kitkat.
Also, be aware that we can not guarantee the functionality of the device if it is Roote.
If your phone is a concern and you need to claim warranty, from the moment he received no trace of shock or been in contact with water, simply contact us. If we can not resolve your concern, we will offer you an exchange. Your product is guaranteed for 2 years.
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But the general idea seems the same as the reply from Google in the OP, less detailed.

viking37 said:
Hi,
I asked too about root, unlocked bootloader/custom rom (custom Android Kit-Kat software) and warranty LG/Google, the French support is light and evasive (even if I detailed all the points
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If I'm not mistaken there's an European law about that. Basically if we have bought a device in Europe the manufacturer must repare our device even if the software has been modified. (Instruction no. 1999/44/CE of E.U.)

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HTC Reviewing Its Bootloader Policy - Facebook Update

HTC are reviewing the locked bootloader policy.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
and ...
http://wakeuphtc.blogspot.com/
If this works, it'll be the best rhing htc did in a long time.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
This is a post to shut up the masses stay loud my friends, stay loud until they clearly state that they will unlock those bootloaders
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Jbcarrera said:
This is a post to shut up the masses stay loud my friends, stay loud until they clearly state that they will unlock those bootloaders
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I don't thinks so. This statment even more gives power to our voices. Look at Google and see a lot of big tech forums like "androidpolice" refer to.
Well they had better, i dont want to be moving to samsung, HOWEVER, push comes to shove and no root for my currently s-on incredible s? it will be done :/
I think it is time to let companies know the power of the pro-user. I am constantly recommending people against buying an HTC. They trust me for all their review. On every forum, we must absolutely not recommend anyone an HTC. All of it can be done without lying.
Example:
n00b question: "hey, should I buy the HTC sensation?"
Reply: "No. The bootloader is locked. You'll only be able to run what HTC wants you to run. You either buy a Samsung, or simply get an iPhone."
Yes, the opinion is slightly biased, and hides some information (like the user might never need root). However, as someone who has the privilege of recommending devices to others - How much I disclose, and how neutral I should be, is not covered by the any covenant. So.. screw you HTC. Everyday, I'll try and persuade, at least, one person to not buy an HTC - till you unlock!
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I think it is time to let companies know the power of the pro-user. I am constantly recommending people against buying an HTC. They trust me for all their review. On every forum, we must absolutely not recommend anyone an HTC. All of it can be done without lying.
Example:
n00b question: "hey, should I buy the HTC sensation?"
Reply: "No. The bootloader is locked. You'll only be able to run what HTC wants you to run. You either buy a Samsung, or simply get an iPhone."
Yes, the opinion is slightly biased, and hides some information (like the user might never need root). However, as someone who has the privilege of recommending devices to others - How much I disclose, and how neutral I should be, is not covered by the any covenant. So.. screw you HTC. Everyday, I'll try and persuade, at least, one person to not buy an HTC - till you unlock!
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I feel the same way
HTC- YOU LOCK WE WALK!!!!
eternalhate said:
I think it is time to let companies know the power of the pro-user. I am constantly recommending people against buying an HTC. They trust me for all their review. On every forum, we must absolutely not recommend anyone an HTC. All of it can be done without lying.
Example:
n00b question: "hey, should I buy the HTC sensation?"
Reply: "No. The bootloader is locked. You'll only be able to run what HTC wants you to run. You either buy a Samsung, or simply get an iPhone."
Yes, the opinion is slightly biased, and hides some information (like the user might never need root). However, as someone who has the privilege of recommending devices to others - How much I disclose, and how neutral I should be, is not covered by the any covenant. So.. screw you HTC. Everyday, I'll try and persuade, at least, one person to not buy an HTC - till you unlock!
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Count of people I got to buy non HTC phones = 12 and counting
I love sense. The only reason I say no is the boot loader. Free our phones. Now!
cooljais said:
If this works, it'll be the best rhing htc did in a long time.
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Actually, it'll just be undoing the worst thing they've done in a long time.
I wrote a two page letter to HTC today one part with personal data and why the S-ON device is not good for me and the other part from the example letter that is posted to the first post blog.
I send it via e-mail directly to some addresses and also via the HTC support..
and here's the reply..
Thank you for contacting us,
We cannot comment on whether or not HTC has blocked any customer from rooting or hacking their phone. Rooting the phone may open the phone up to virus attacks and other unsecure activities, as well as introduce unintended functionality, and as such is very difficult for us to support.
You are a valued HTC customer, thank you so much for your feedback, we will be communicating them to the department in charge, please note that we are glad to offer assistance whenever needed, if you have any further inquiries kindly don't hesitate to contact us.
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How typical..
It goes without saying that there are benefits to making it difficult to root your phone. A prime example is that once you root your phone. All of your account passwords are unencrypted.
That said, perhaps if the phones were easier to root people would put resources into making sure they're re-encrypted with a good ROM.
But ultimately every user deserves freedom of choice and if rooting my phone is the best/simplest/easiest way for me to uninstall bloatware/configure it as per I need it, then its clearly the best option. Freedom is the key here. Every single user should have a choice.

Bypass Google Email Verification ( Reset Device protection )

Hello everyone!
During the last few days I had a bricked nexus 6. Bootloader locked, no adb, no custom recovery. After several hard resets using stock recovery, the phone could boot. However, in the configuration process, it kept asking me for gmail account that was previously synced with the device. After some research, I discovered that it was a feature introduced with 5.1 and that I had to contact the seller ( which was impossible in my case as I bought it abroad). Another solution was to downgrade, but again it was impossible because I had no adb, no custom recovery, no bootloader unlocked. Surprinsingly, I went to a place here in Morocco where there are some people who flash phones and repair them. I asked one of them about my issue and he told me that it can be repaired. I am just dumbfounded as now I have a " working nexus 6".
I still cannot believe it! How couldn't I find a solution first here in xda? Or Am I missing something?
No one here knows how to bypass it. As far as we are aware, it cannot be done.
Perhaps your team have some special hardware to do it.
Anyway, even if we did know, there would be an ethical debate about releasing that info. No one would tell you.
danarama said:
No one here knows how to bypass it. As far as we are aware, it cannot be done.
Perhaps your team have some special hardware to do it.
Anyway, even if we did know, there would be an ethical debate about releasing that info. No one would tell you.
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Thank you so much for your clarification. It's true that the reset device protection is something useful which won't let thieves use our phones, however, there are many people like me who bought their phones legally but got stuck there due to a bad flash or because the seller forgot to erase his account before reset.
And yeah! those people have probably something special or they just know too much in coding.... ( some commands maybe we don't know )
Rikodu said:
Thank you so much for your clarification. It's true that the reset device protection is something useful which won't let thieves use our phones, however, there are many people like me who bought their phones legally but got stuck there due to a bad flash or because the seller forgot to erase his account before reset.
And yeah! those people have probably something special or they just know too much in coding.... ( some commands maybe we don't know )
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The problem is that there is no way to give information (even if we had it) to those who legally purchased whilst also preventing it getting into the wrong hands.
Those who purchase legally should be protected by testing the device first, a credit card buyer protection/PayPal, contact with the seller or returns policy. Buying outside this is pretty foolish.
I would be interested to know how they did it though.
Was the phone bricked when you bought it, or did you brick it after using it with your google account.
If you used your google account then it would have been tied to you. If that is the case then they fixed some other error.....
Just because this phone using eMMC,not some fuse in CPU to log the ID.So,just change device id,imei.Everything is fine.
I know I've done several factory resets and it always asks for that, BUT, if you flash the stock firmware and have your sim in it I've had it skip that process entirely.
You can try flashing, check if it asks, then flash it again? I know I've bypassed it in the past "accidentally" by doing that.
Maybe it still somehow knows its me? Idk.
They likely used J-Tag to downgrade it.
graydiggy said:
They likely used J-Tag to downgrade it.
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I tried to know what they did! They wouldn't tell !!!
Rikodu said:
I tried to know what they did! They wouldn't tell !!!
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I like to know how much you paid ?
hi dears, i bought a second hand ARCHOS 50 helium Plus. i can not complete setup. i am blocked while it asks me to put the google account and when i put my google account it says " this device was reset to continue sign in with a google account that was previously synced " i tried to rest the phone. please help..........
Sorry, but the only person that can help you is the person you bought the device from. They will need to sign in to the device, remove their account from the device, then factory reset before you will be able to use it. And before you ask, no, there is no other way to resolve this.
P.S. While the site appreciates that you actually searched for a thread related to your problem, this is the Nexus 6 forum. In the future, your questions are better asked here.
smneamat said:
hi dears, i bought a second hand ARCHOS 50 helium Plus. i can not complete setup. i am blocked while it asks me to put the google account and when i put my google account it says " this device was reset to continue sign in with a google account that was previously synced " i tried to rest the phone. please help..........
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If you follow the directions you will be able to bypass it. This new little security thing was bypassed within hours of it being known about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-frp-bypass-solution-usb-otg-t3261846
The easies way is unlock the bootloader, and flash the device with the latest stock image.
thanks
zelendel said:
If you follow the directions you will be able to bypass it. This new little security thing was bypassed within hours of it being known about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-frp-bypass-solution-usb-otg-t3261846
The easies way is unlock the bootloader, and flash the device with the latest stock image.
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Thanks.......... i will try.............
@zelendel: Guess I learned something new.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@zelendel: Guess I learned something new.
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If you dont learn something new every day then it is a wasted day man. We all learn new things every day. No matter what security is implamented it will be bypassed ini short order. Heck FP scanner was bypassed within days, Facial rec was done in hours. This one didnt take that long either.
Knowing it's possible is one thing. Explaining how to do it is another. I believe in the future I'm just not going to respond at all to people asking how to bypass the lockout. After responding to someone on these forums who admitted bypassing the account lockout on a found phone, I have to assume that anyone trying to bypass the lockout is a thief.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Knowing it's possible is one thing. Explaining how to do it is another. I believe in the future I'm just not going to respond at all to people asking how to bypass the lockout. After responding to someone on these forums who admitted bypassing the account lockout on a found phone, I have to assume that anyone trying to bypass the lockout is a thief.
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This is what we do here. We bypass things. Mainly security features. Just look at all the features the OEMS use to lock things down. Things like root, S-off (HTC devices) Bootloader unlocks that dont trip knox (samsung), Bypassing fingerprint and facial rec locks, bypassing pattern/number locks and such.
All those things that you mention aren't anti-theft measures. Those things are the hoops we have to jump through to take control of the devices we've bought and paid for, or are in the process of paying off. They are not intended to prevent the device from being used if the device is lost or stolen.
The account lockout is an anti-theft measure, and I firmly believe that discussing means of circumventing an anti-theft measure should not be allowed on XDA. Obviously, I do not make the rules for the site, nor am I anybody important. But this is simply not acceptable, and I have a problem with it.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
All those things that you mention aren't anti-theft measures. Those things are the hoops we have to jump through to take control of the devices we've bought and paid for, or are in the process of paying off. They are not intended to prevent the device from being used if the device is lost or stolen.
The account lockout is an anti-theft measure, and I firmly believe that discussing means of circumventing an anti-theft measure should not be allowed on XDA. Obviously, I do not make the rules for the site, nor am I anybody important. But this is simply not acceptable, and I have a problem with it.
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Thing like lockscreen locks, fp locks and facial rec are meant to lock the device yet we show time and time again how to bypass them.
As it is common knowledge that all you have to do is format all partitions and flash a stock image and boom it is bypassed.
To be honest no anti theft measure will ever work on an open source platform mainly not a nexus. That is just something that people have to come to terms with.

PLEASE HELP ME! my phone is "rooted" with 3 third-party apps my BF installed!

PLEASE HELP ME! my phone is "rooted" with 3 third-party apps my BF installed!
I noticed that my nexus 6 was acting funny, and since my boyfriend purchased this phone for me- he set the entire thing up. The day it arrived, he plugged my phone into his laptop and started typing away at what looked like a black screen and a boxy white font with a bunch of rom codes etc(at this point, i was totally clueless and oblivious to what he was doing)...
Then, he would sporadically bring up specific texts that i had sent, and at times would randomly pinpoint specific addresses and times and asked me about them(mind you, they were my friends homes) which left me to wonder "how the hell did he even know about that text or specific location unless my phone is hacked??"
so, i took my phone to a specialist who confirmed that my phone was rooted with a custom ROM along with 3 third-party apps "kernel adiutor", "pure nexus", and "xda labs".
Once i called tech support for my phone, they said they couldn't help me because they're third party apps that are not legal to use in the first place.
long story short, his mom confirmed recently that he in fact has my phone hacked. can somebody please give me insight on the apps he installed and the purpose they serve?? what kind of access/capabilities does he have now that my phone is rooted even if i restore my phone???
Kernel Auditor Xda labs and pure nexus are not phone hacking apps Xda lab is app by xda community and Kernel Auditor is for tweaking the kernel and i think Pure Nexus is a Custom Rom for the Nexus
If you want to get rid of this you can ask service centre to flash Stock Rom of Nexus phone
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Download a factory image from here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Follow the instructions on the webpage. Doing this will wipe your phone and put it back to 100% stock.
Also lol @ this:
vneedshelpASAP said:
Once i called tech support for my phone, they said they couldn't help me because they're third party apps that are not legal to use in the first place.
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You have a very *very* serious problem.
As khanboyz007 says, the apps you mention are entirely pukka, totally normal, nothing suspicious.
But...
If you can't trust your boyfriend so much that you have to post for help from anonymous strangers, then your problem is far deeper than your Nexus 6. From the technical side of your description, he's done nothing at all wrong, but from reading between the lines you don't trust him, and *that's* a dealbreaker.
Why are you asking us instead of him? Give him a chance to explain. Maybe there's nothing more sinister than you (clearly without any technical knowledge... sorry...) don't have your phone password-protected and he's just looked at your texts - in itself a breach of trust, but still not justifying posting in a public forum to strangers.
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You have a very *very* serious problem.
As khanboyz007 says, the apps you mention are entirely pukka, totally normal, nothing suspicious.
But...
If you can't trust your boyfriend so much that you have to post for help from anonymous strangers, then your problem is far deeper than your Nexus 6. From the technical side of your description, he's done nothing at all wrong, but from reading between the lines you don't trust him, and *that's* a dealbreaker.
Why are you asking us instead of him? Give him a chance to explain. Maybe there's nothing more sinister than you (clearly without any technical knowledge... sorry...) don't have your phone password-protected and he's just looked at your texts - in itself a breach of trust, but still not justifying posting in a public forum to strangers.
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I wouldnt say that at all. If he can tell where she has been and what text she is sending then he installed one of the many monitor apps onto her phone which is illegal.
My advise would be to completely wipe your device. Flash a stock rom and dont let him touch your device.
As for your personal life no one can or has any right to say anything about that. Do what you think is best.
If he knows the locations you've been at its possible he has your google+ share location set where it's shared with him. Or possibly he had set up an email for you on it and is signing into it to track your location. As far as the apps you mentioned they are %100 percent legal, most carrier don't know anything about rooting or custom Roms and will not give you adequate advice. But as they said, you can just flash the stock image, make your own Gmail to sign in or make sure to change your Gmail password. After you do make sure that that you put a password on your device that he doesn't know.
"then he installed one of the many monitor apps onto her phone"
Isn't that what I said...? No trust. This isn't in any way a technical question - it's about their relationship.
And since I've seen your many posts here over the years I know you've got a fair amount of life experience, in which case I can assume that you know of Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is likely to be the correct one, and the simplest explanation here is not that he's installed a monitoring app but is simply looking at the phone. I stand by my comments.
"no one can or has any right to say anything about that"
Yes, I agree, it would be none of my business - *if* she hadn't asked for my advice (as well as yours).
If she has so little trust in her partner, and has asked for advice (technical or otherwise), then the answer has to be "Look very carefully at your relationship".
(P.S. To avoid the inevitable "sexist" comments, yes, I've assumed it's a female poster, but I'm aware that there are alternatives).
To be honest I think it might be a moot point as he is most likely part of this forum and has seen this post.
Then he's got the message...
Or this is just a prank. Like I'm getting private messages from people who haven't even posted yet to fix their phones.
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Or this is just a prank.
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Yes, that same thought had occurred to me. I give the benefit of the doubt unless there's a clear sign that it's a joke, and this one does come close to the edge...
A lot of effort for a not-funny joke though. It would be good if the OP provides some feedback - I do get very fed up with people asking for advice, which is given maybe by half a dozen people who have taken the time and trouble to provide it, only for the OP to vanish into the ether without so much as a "thank you" button press.
Step one, flash the phone back to stock using the links provided eariler posts.
Step two, dump the loser - he is too controlling, and this will never change...
Now that the personal advice has been given, let's bring this thread back to troubleshooting device issues, not relationship issues . Thanks for your cooperation.
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.... my boyfriend purchased this phone for me- he set the entire thing up.
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Your friend has set up your phone the same way as he should do for himself.
There nothing wrong with rooting and the apps you mentioned.
My idea is that ask him very friendly to flash the latest official stock Rom.
Tell him that you prefer the official rom of Google.
Because you want official support when there is something wrong. And you don't need root acces because you only use 'normal' apps.
As everything there are disadvantages.
A rooted phone allows you to install layers. That makes it possible to choose dark themes. And that's important when you need a better battery life.
I Bet he's using Cerberus. Go into your settings>apps, select to include system apps. You'll be looking for a app name: system framework. If you see this He is tracking you using Ceberus, . This app/service is pretty awesome. I was able to track my phone down, see the texts sent, turn the mic on and listen to where my phone was at. .
Like everyone said flash a new rom. clean slate. Then dump dude, there should be no need for that crap.
Here's the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en
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I noticed that my nexus 6 was acting funny, and since my boyfriend purchased this phone for me- he set the entire thing up. The day it arrived, he plugged my phone into his laptop and started typing away at what looked like a black screen and a boxy white font with a bunch of rom codes etc(at this point, i was totally clueless and oblivious to what he was doing)...
Then, he would sporadically bring up specific texts that i had sent, and at times would randomly pinpoint specific addresses and times and asked me about them(mind you, they were my friends homes) which left me to wonder "how the hell did he even know about that text or specific location unless my phone is hacked??"
so, i took my phone to a specialist who confirmed that my phone was rooted with a custom ROM along with 3 third-party apps "kernel adiutor", "pure nexus", and "xda labs".
Once i called tech support for my phone, they said they couldn't help me because they're third party apps that are not legal to use in the first place.
long story short, his mom confirmed recently that he in fact has my phone hacked. can somebody please give me insight on the apps he installed and the purpose they serve?? what kind of access/capabilities does he have now that my phone is rooted even if i restore my phone???
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to me, a "specialist", it sounds like he did you a favor, by rooting your device, and adding apps that you will need to control your own phone. your "own" i say because otherwise you are just using someone elses device, that you happened to pay for with your money. so, instead of posting a pissy thread, id do a little more research on how to control your own phone, and then tell him thank you.
oh, btw, just because the apps arent from the play store, it does not make them illegal to use, at all. you can use whatever app you want, from wherever you want, LEGALLY.
I'm coming round to istperson's point of view - this thread is beginning to look more and more like an elaborate pointless hoax, and not a very funny one.
There are far too many of these threads where people ask a question and then disappear without the courtesy of a sign-off or even a "thank you". Very discouraging, and makes me less keen on spending my time here trying to help timewasting ingrates...
I'm gonna close this thread for now. If the OP has anything else to add they can contact me again to reopen it.
Not all apps are legal. It really depends on where you are living. As an example. Things like keyloggers, call recorders (depending on local laws) screen recorders and things of this nature are completely legal in some countries like China, while being completely illegal in other places in the world.
Also installing tracking software of any kind on someone's device is also illegal.
We have to remember that many people search for help on something, reg to the forum to get the answer and dont come back until they have another issue. This is becoming far more common as of late.

Unlock locked frp Huawei p30 pro..

Hey guys!
I'm sure there is a lot of posts like this one but I couldn't find the right one so if someone finds it please share
So my problem is that my dad bought a Huawei p30 pro (Vog-l29) and little did he know about the google account.. I did a factory reset and now I'm stuck.. Any ideas how to fix it?
I'm far from pro in doing stuff like this but I'm familiar with a lot of ways so if some one with more experience could just point me in the right direction with names of programs and files I would be very thankful! I've read a lot of ways to do it but then they mention that it won't unlock it.. I have a USB cable for it and a Windows computer, do I need something else?
Would really appreciate some help!
Thanks in advance!
Ask your father his password and 'voilà'.. You'll be good to go!
☜(゚ヮ゚☜)
Tapa'DoC'eD
O_DoC said:
Ask your father his password and 'voilà'.. You'll be good to go!
☜(゚ヮ゚☜)
Tapa'DoC'eD
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Funny one! The Google account belong to the seller.. Didn't think that was hard to get, so yeah asking my dad won't help.
Please can I get some helpful answers..
LoL you're welcome (^_-)
Usually, looking for frp bypass means a lot things...
If not, just try 'frp' on the search bar, there's subjects about.
And, of course, you could also go to an official repair center : they'll unlock it for you.
Good day
Tapa'DoC'eD
O_DoC said:
LoL you're welcome (^_-)
Usually, looking for frp bypass means a lot things...
If not, just try 'frp' on the search bar, there's subjects about.
And, of course, you could also go to an official repair center : they'll unlock it for you.
Good day
Tapa'DoC'eD
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Yeah I get that, it might be hard to believe randoms here but in this case the phone isn't stolen.
I've already tried to search around but I don't get everything I read about it, like I said I'm far from pro in this area.
Would really appreciate some help to fix this..
Hi. I guess the easiest way is to flash the factory image to the phone.
Look here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...orial-vog-l29-flash-firmware-153-usb-t3928793
When I flash new firmware my Google account is gone and I have to enter my information to start the phone with my account.
Its not that hard to flash the firmware. Follow The guide.
Capsymot said:
Hi. I guess the easiest way is to flash the factory image to the phone.
Look here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...orial-vog-l29-flash-firmware-153-usb-t3928793
When I flash new firmware my Google account is gone and I have to enter my information to start the phone with my account.
Its not that hard to flash the firmware. Follow The guide.
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Thanks man! Much appreciated! Will try it!
Didn't work.. Still frp locked..
Try contacting the seller, maybe he will tell you the password...
dubart said:
Try contacting the seller, maybe he will tell you the password...
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I honestly have no idea of how to do it.. My dad had a number of the seller but the phone is just ringing, no answer. Maybe someone someday will answer but I'm not so sure about that
nvd93 said:
I honestly have no idea of how to do it.. My dad had a number of the seller but the phone is just ringing, no answer. Maybe someone someday will answer but I'm not so sure about that
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You must have online emails and ebay or whichever site you used logs from the sale/purchase, phone number of the seller had to come from somewhere
How did you pay for it? Bank transfer/Paypal, both have paper trails/logs of the seller
Find it hard to believe you have 0 proof of purchase and 0 methods of contacting the seller
*Detection* said:
You must have online emails and ebay or whichever site you used logs from the sale/purchase, phone number of the seller had to come from somewhere
How did you pay for it? Bank transfer/Paypal, both have paper trails/logs of the seller
Find it hard to believe you have 0 proof of purchase and 0 methods of contacting the seller
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It was a seller on a facebook-page. He had written the price and a phone number so my dad called him and they spoke about it. The wrote 2-3 messages and that's it. Not much. Paid in cash as well.
nvd93 said:
It was a seller on a facebook-page. He had written the price and a phone number so my dad called him and they spoke about it. The wrote 2-3 messages and that's it. Not much. Paid in cash as well.
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Go back to the FB page and look him up
Next time don't buy dodge phones (likely stolen) from random FB people, there's usually a reason why FRP is locked
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Go back to the FB page and look him up
Next time don't buy dodge phones (likely stolen) from random FB people, there's usually a reason why FRP is locked
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Already tried it, no answer..
I know, my dad didn't know about this, he thought it was like the old days when people still were honest..
Probably doesn't matter anyway, even if you did get back into it, if it is stolen it will soon be IMEI blacklisted and be useless as a phone in your country
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First of all, xda does allow threads regarding FRP bypass as long as it's clearly not for illegal purposes.
Second, if you think it IS for illegal purposes, report it! Don't reply as if you are a Moderator of this site or flame the member. This could land you in hot water.
I'll quote some of the rules here since it's MY job to do so:
2. Member conduct.
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing and this does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is unacceptable. Treat new members in the manner in which you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instructions when you can, showing them respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
2.5 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do so. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably quite a few people with less experience than you, who could benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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Thanks!
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Thanos said:
Thread cleaned up a bit.
First of all, xda does allow threads regarding FRP bypass as long as it's clearly not for illegal purposes.
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I think this is where the confusion is coming from, there seems to be different rules per device forum
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76762598&postcount=7
Having been Samsung for years I've had it drummed into my head that 'any' talk of FRP bypassing is against XDA rules
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I think this is where the confusion is coming from, there seems to be different rules per device forum
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76762598&postcount=7
Having been Samsung for years I've had it drummed into my head that 'any' talk of FRP bypassing is against XDA rules
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Thanks but that post is actually incorrect. I assure you we do allow them unless it's clearly breaking the law. It all stems from the introduction of FRP when devices were being sold without the Google account being properly removed. Many users found themselves in this exact situation. They purchased a device that had been simply factory reset. Which was enough before the introduction of FRP but now when they set up their newly purchased device, they are asked for the previous owner's password.
Therefore xda has allowed these threads as well as the actual methods of bypass to be posted. There are legitimate uses.
Thanos said:
Thanks but that post is actually incorrect. I assure you we do allow them unless it's clearly breaking the law. It all stems from the introduction of FRP when devices were being sold without the Google account being properly removed. Many users found themselves in this exact situation. They purchased a device that had been simply factory reset. Which was enough before the introduction of FRP but now when they set up their newly purchased device, they are asked for the previous owner's password.
Therefore xda has allowed these threads as well as the actual methods of bypass to be posted. There are legitimate uses.
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Thanks for clearing it up
Bypass the huawei p30 lite frp. MAR-LX1M.
Has anyone found anything ?

Samsung Note 8 eng boot file?

My girlfriend forgot the pattern to her note 8. I had bought it for her barely two days before this. She's not at all tech savvy. Thinking she would fix before i found out, (I may occasionally poke fun at her forgetfulness), she googled the problem and was advised to do a factory reset. After the reset of course the frp kicked in. It would be a cake walk except her fogetfullness also kicked in. We've practically begged google to grant her access to her account again to no avail.
I've been working on bypassing it. I've done this for her a couple times in the past actually with other types of phones with success. You all are probably aware Samsung is a whole different ballgame. After a week this is what I know, or at least what I'm fairly sure is accurate from all the reading I've done.
1. The firmware is N950U1UES8DTF2.
2. I need usb debugging enabled to have a hope.
3. There currently is no combo file for this bootloader version.
4. There may be an option with an eng boot file flashed onto the phone?
Anyone know more about this and perhaps where I could download it or even how to make one. I've tried a couple different softwares that claim entering the ap from stock firmware will create the adb enable file. The two i tried this with however, did nothing when i flashed the resulting file with odin.
I'll take any advice anyone has. Maybe there's another route to enable usb debugging that I haven't explored? Hopefully there's something out there as I'm not a man of great means and two hundred and fifty is a great lot to lose on a phone.
Thanks in advance.
Pattern is easy removed with wipe data in stock recovery
jadams7256 said:
My girlfriend forgot the pattern to her note 8. I had bought it for her barely two days before this. She's not at all tech savvy. Thinking she would fix before i found out, (I may occasionally poke fun at her forgetfulness), she googled the problem and was advised to do a factory reset. After the reset of course the frp kicked in. It would be a cake walk except her fogetfullness also kicked in. We've practically begged google to grant her access to her account again to no avail.
I've been working on bypassing it. I've done this for her a couple times in the past actually with other types of phones with success. You all are probably aware Samsung is a whole different ballgame. After a week this is what I know, or at least what I'm fairly sure is accurate from all the reading I've done.
1. The firmware is N950U1UES8DTF2.
2. I need usb debugging enabled to have a hope.
3. There currently is no combo file for this bootloader version.
4. There may be an option with an eng boot file flashed onto the phone?
Anyone know more about this and perhaps where I could download it or even how to make one. I've tried a couple different softwares that claim entering the ap from stock firmware will create the adb enable file. The two i tried this with however, did nothing when i flashed the resulting file with odin.
I'll take any advice anyone has. Maybe there's another route to enable usb debugging that I haven't explored? Hopefully there's something out there as I'm not a man of great means and two hundred and fifty is a great lot to lose on a phone.
Thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately you're going to have to figure this out for yourself because we do not help people and guide them on how to defeat the FRP and other protections.. You're basically saying she forgot her pattern and then after factory resetting it you're saying she forgot her password to?! That just doesn't sound right and there's a reason why Google refused to help you.. If it really is your phone you can take it to your cellphone carrier or Samsung and they'll fix it.
MrMike2182 said:
Unfortunately you're going to have to figure this out for yourself because we do not help people and guide them on how to defeat the FRP and other protections.. You're basically saying she forgot her pattern and then after factory resetting it you're saying she forgot her password to?! That just doesn't sound right and there's a reason why Google refused to help you.. If it really is your phone you can take it to your cellphone carrier or Samsung and they'll fix it.
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And figure it out I shall. For your information there are people with a tendency to forget quite a bit. Its hard for her but she makes up for anything she lacks not being a judgemental, small minded ass. Maybe try applying some common sense next time you're plotting out a withering retort genius. Its a carrier unlocked, as some of the more knowledgeable members can most likely glean from the firmware. Bought from ebay to use with her service. What do carriers say when you ask for their support with a handset not purchased from them and therefore not covered under warranty by their company? Yeah. And I guess youve never forgotten a google password and had to deal with their **** or you would have hesitated before letting that drivel roll from your tongue. I lost an email address there permanently once that was quite clearly 'mine'. They just wouldnt allow me access again because i forgot to change my recovery number when I changed my phone carrier.
Now despite your quite clear insinuations the phone is most definitely mine. The situation is just as described. And I guess what I really should have asked for is a question and answer type group comprised of individuals intelligent enough to know that in the case where frp keeps someone from using their own property on account of the fading memory of a loved a one, there must exist a way to continue using said property.
I hope you aren't representative of all your peers that are members here. I hope children make less assumptions in their judgement of others.
jadams7256 said:
And figure it out I shall. For your information there are people with a tendency to forget quite a bit. Its hard for her but she makes up for anything she lacks not being a judgemental, small minded ass. Maybe try applying some common sense next time you're plotting out a withering retort genius. Its a carrier unlocked, as some of the more knowledgeable members can most likely glean from the firmware. Bought from ebay to use with her service. What do carriers say when you ask for their support with a handset not purchased from them and therefore not covered under warranty by their company? Yeah. And I guess youve never forgotten a google password and had to deal with their **** or you would have hesitated before letting that drivel roll from your tongue. I lost an email address there permanently once that was quite clearly 'mine'. They just wouldnt allow me access again because i forgot to change my recovery number when I changed my phone carrier.
Now despite your quite clear insinuations the phone is most definitely mine. The situation is just as described. And I guess what I really should have asked for is a question and answer type group comprised of individuals intelligent enough to know that in the case where frp keeps someone from using their own property on account of the fading memory of a loved a one, there must exist a way to continue using said property.
I hope you aren't representative of all your peers that are members here. I hope children make less assumptions in their judgement of others.
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Let's see if anyone helps you then! With your attitude and name calling I can see I made the right choice and everyone else is going to see your attitude too and they're not going to want to help you. Being a little 6 year old name caller and crybaby isn't going to persuade anyone to help you. If you're too dim to understand that the FRP is there to protect stolen phones, and you're too dim to see that it seems suspicious when you say she forgot the pattern and then forgot the password right afterwards that's your problem!
jadams7256 said:
And figure it out I shall. For your information there are people with a tendency to forget quite a bit. Its hard for her but she makes up for anything she lacks not being a judgemental, small minded ass. Maybe try applying some common sense next time you're plotting out a withering retort genius. Its a carrier unlocked, as some of the more knowledgeable members can most likely glean from the firmware. Bought from ebay to use with her service. What do carriers say when you ask for their support with a handset not purchased from them and therefore not covered under warranty by their company? Yeah. And I guess youve never forgotten a google password and had to deal with their **** or you would have hesitated before letting that drivel roll from your tongue. I lost an email address there permanently once that was quite clearly 'mine'. They just wouldnt allow me access again because i forgot to change my recovery number when I changed my phone carrier.
Now despite your quite clear insinuations the phone is most definitely mine. The situation is just as described. And I guess what I really should have asked for is a question and answer type group comprised of individuals intelligent enough to know that in the case where frp keeps someone from using their own property on account of the fading memory of a loved a one, there must exist a way to continue using said property.
I hope you aren't representative of all your peers that are members here. I hope children make less assumptions in their judgement of others.
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As Stated before we will not help you to bypass the FRP Protection!
There is no way to prove what you say is the truth or total LIE!
You are the one that needs common sense! Ask yourself this, if my phone was stolen would you want someone to come to site like xda and ask for a work around FRP on your phone without giving proof and giving some sob story?
Wow! 2 posts and hes already bold enough to lash out. Sounds like a little spoiled petulant kid. Take your attitude elsewhere little child....

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