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I am looking to replace my galaxy SII for two main reasons.
The battery- I got, perhaps a faulty battery, but you can fully charge it and 1 hour later it has no battery left. Does the Note have a better battery life than the SII?
Runs warm- does the Galaxy note run as warm as the S2 while doing normal tasks, like using 3g and browsing?
The note does not run warm when doing normal tasks. The only time mine gets hot is when its been running satnav for 30mins.
You will love the nite.
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Buddy39914 said:
I am looking to replace my galaxy SII for two main reasons.
The battery- I got, perhaps a faulty battery, but you can fully charge it and 1 hour later it has no battery left. Does the Note have a better battery life than the SII?
Runs warm- does the Galaxy note run as warm as the S2 while doing normal tasks, like using 3g and browsing?
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Perhaps you had a faulty battery? I think you know you had a faulty battery.
Yes the Note has got better battery life than the SII.
I have noticed the Note does get a little warm sometimes. But not overly. Nothing that would bring concern.
It sounds like your SII is fried the heat and battery problems are most likely linked. The reason the phone gets so hot is because the battery is discharging so quickly.
Battery life greater than s2
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Im only at 35% after 1 day and 14 hours of normal use, texting, surfing, gaming. Im on 0% brightness. Take what you will from that.
Buddy39914 said:
I am looking to replace my galaxy SII for two main reasons.
The battery- I got, perhaps a faulty battery, but you can fully charge it and 1 hour later it has no battery left. Does the Note have a better battery life than the SII?
Runs warm- does the Galaxy note run as warm as the S2 while doing normal tasks, like using 3g and browsing?
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Something IS faulty, whether it's your battery or not. No phone should only last 1 hour. Even the worst performing smartphone being tortured will last 3+ hours. And I'm talking about rebooting, flashing, streaming HD video over LTE etc.
The Galaxy Note is very similar to the S2 same cpu/chipset etc. If you do a search for something like "hot" in the Gnote forums you will find many posts. But, that doesn't mean it should be of much concern. If those are really your only two reasons why you want to upgrade then I suggest trying to replace/refund/repair the phone you have know, because the battery loss & heat are probably related issues. But, if you want a larger screened phone then by all means upgrade to the Note.
Guys need some advice. Recently i have been having problems with battery life of galaxy note, so following some advices from other forums, i tried beter battery stats and found nothing was wrong. But today I have taken out the battery off my galaxy note, and i found that the battery has bloated a bit..i mean it bulged than its normal size and the back cover does not fit as confortably as it used to. Now my observations are, with no data on(even wifi) battery lasts for one and half day of calling and texting. But battery lasts not more than 2 hrs if data is on (even with wifi also). So does it mean i should change my battery? Or can i go on? Ofcourse battery life is pathetic when i switch on 3G or 2G or wifi. All i want to know is, is it safe to use this battery even if it has bloated a bit, bcoz its still good if i dont switch on any kind of data usage. Or will it damage my Note?
P. M. Vinay Kumar,
HTC P3400i (sold),
Samsung Galaxy S, rooted(sold),
Samsung Galaxy Note (using now),
Stock ICS, Rooted
this has happened to me b4. not with not but other phone. battery bulged from back side. cuz I was using a diff charger not of the right rating or keeping it in charging for the entire night. Or may be a non official battery. any ways u should change the battery.
There are a few questions i want to ask, they may be sily but still want to know bcoz i dont want my battery to suffer.
1. Can will charge the battery with data on, i mean either 2G, 3G or WiFi on, with some downloading or buffering going on?
2. Ca we charge the battery while running some apps. Like watching video or listening to music, both via speakers not headphones.
3. And when is the best time to keep the phone for charging. I generally charge my mobile when its less than 10%.
4. Why does prolong charging damage the battery? I mean, when charging is full, doesn't the mobile cut the power input, even if charger is plugged in?
P. M. Vinay Kumar,
HTC P3400i (sold),
Samsung Galaxy S, rooted(sold),
Samsung Galaxy Note (using now),
Stock ICS, Rooted
lord_pmvk said:
1. Can will charge the battery with data on, i mean either 2G, 3G or WiFi on, with some downloading or buffering going on?
2. Ca we charge the battery while running some apps. Like watching video or listening to music, both via speakers not headphones.
3. And when is the best time to keep the phone for charging. I generally charge my mobile when its less than 10%.
4. Why does prolong charging damage the battery? I mean, when charging is full, doesn't the mobile cut the power input, even if charger is plugged in?
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1. Yes
2. Yes.
3. Some people like to let the phone run dry i.e. power off so that they know like every last bit of battery is used.
But I don't think it makes too much of a difference.
4. I'm not really sure with this question.
But I think there are two sides to this argument.
First is, cuz it is still connected to power, it still drains battery or something. I'm not sure.
Second is, over charging is a myth and you can go nuts and over charge it cuz as you said, it stops charging when fully charged.
Feel free to correct me on anything I screwed up in.
i guess 1,2,3 has bee correctly answered..
4: i would like to add is i am sure phone cuts the charge and so does laptops.. but with laptop it is not recommended to keep the charger plugged in when its full.. its always recommended to disconnect the charger.. as mentioned in some battery guides as well. there are software installed in pc for limiting the charge to 80 or 85 % called as battery care functions... which clearly states that it saves battery life in the long run. so i guess its applicable to phones as well.. u may not find an immediate diff but i am sure ur battery will long last
as i said before.. i dont take these chances with Note but i had the same issue with a Nokia phone that i owned..
Sounds like heat dammage. The battery has a bag inside which swells during charging. The hard case is bigger than it needs to be ,to take acc. of this. If it has buckled the outer case it loks to me you have been using power draining apps while charging. Its got vv hot made gases and bullged. It's ruined. Id not use it ,incase it leaks into the phone. so long as the charger has more capacity in watts than the battery needs it will just take what it needs. Never use a charger of higher voltage!!!
As someone said overcharge is a myth. So is the need to drain the battery every time on lithium-pollimer.
Were you using a Samsung or generic batt?
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howard bamber said:
Sounds like heat dammage.
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I use only the samsung charger thst came with the phone. I do not use any ither charger.
Yeah but i have to make a point here. The way i use my mobile. I use my mobile a lot, i mean we all do, but please read on to see if the way i use my mobile is not good.
Generaly everyone gets free time from friday nights to monday morning. So, from friday night to sunday night, the way i use my mobile is.....continuous usage of net, say i have forgot using my laptop, desktop and note is the only device, even for facebook etc etc...then gaming as we all do....next videos and music (using both headphones and speaker)....then watching videos on mobile, both online and downloaded, sometimes watching streaming movies online (while charging too)
So all i want to say is, I use my mobile a lot on these three days in such a way, that my charging goes from 100% to 25% within 2 to 3 hrs and then i charge till 100%, and still use the mobile while charging for music or videos. Its like i dont give rest to my battery...
Does usage of mobiles this heavily damage batterys....i said all this because i want to know if my usage is the reason behind my batterys damage, so that i can avoid it when i buy the new battery. I use even XDA from my Note all the time and I have both posted and replied to this thread from my Note itself, i almost forgot using my Laptop
P. M. Vinay Kumar,
HTC P3400i (sold),
Samsung Galaxy S, rooted(sold),
Samsung Galaxy Note (using now),
Stock ICS, Rooted
i guess thats a normal usage of phones on weekends and holidays. who wants to sit infrnt of a pc when they have note
I wonder if you have stock battery or ebay kbockoff
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lord_pmvk said:
There are a few questions i want to ask, they may be sily but still want to know bcoz i dont want my battery to suffer.
1. Can will charge the battery with data on, i mean either 2G, 3G or WiFi on, with some downloading or buffering going on?
2. Ca we charge the battery while running some apps. Like watching video or listening to music, both via speakers not headphones.
3. And when is the best time to keep the phone for charging. I generally charge my mobile when its less than 10%.
4. Why does prolong charging damage the battery? I mean, when charging is full, doesn't the mobile cut the power input, even if charger is plugged in?
P. M. Vinay Kumar,
HTC P3400i (sold),
Samsung Galaxy S, rooted(sold),
Samsung Galaxy Note (using now),
Stock ICS, Rooted
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1. Yes.. I'm doing that for 3months now..
2. Yes.. I'm doing that for 3months now..
3. I always run my battery to the point that it turns off the phone..
4. I dont believe in the "overcharging" when you keep your phone plugged in for long.. With the big salary of Samsung Engineers, for sure they have thought of that and protected the device/battery from overcharging..
I tend to keep away from tethering and/or plugging my phone to a USB port since it charges the battery no matter what % it is.. I really want to fully discharge a battery before charging it... Had an old nokia phone and its battery has been going strong for 4years now... So im going to stay with this method to take care of my battery..
As for your bulged battery, i would go with the earlier replies.. It was most probably caused by heat damage.. Either you placed it in a hot place while charging.. or placed it on top of some cloth.. I charge my phone face down so the battery can dissipate the heat.. I notice that it tends to overheat if i have it charged face up..
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I wonder if you have stock battery or ebay kbockoff
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I am using the genuine samsung battery thtt comes with the phone itself. My phone is just a year old and my battery is done
P. M. Vinay Kumar,
HTC P3400i (sold),
Samsung Galaxy S, rooted(sold),
Samsung Galaxy Note (using now),
Stock ICS, Rooted
Ok guys thanks a lot for all your replies...but i want to know one thing for sure....using a bulged battery like the one i have now...does it damage the phone in anyway??
And the other thing i want to point out is, the battery is bulged..but for some reason, even with data connection on all the time, battery is lasting for almost 4 hrs. I wonder wats happening now, with my phone's battery.
Although i have decided to order a new battery now, and i am mostly thinking to order one Samsung Battery from Samsung and one Mugen 5400 mAp battery too. But till i get those batteries, can i use my phone with this bulged battery?? Or will it damage my phone in anyway??
P. M. Vinay Kumar,
HTC P3400i (sold),
Samsung Galaxy S, rooted(sold),
Samsung Galaxy Note (using now),
Stock ICS, Rooted
lord_pmvk said:
Ok guys thanks a lot for all your replies...but i want to know one thing for sure....using a bulged battery like the one i have now...does it damage the phone in anyway??
And the other thing i want to point out is, the battery is bulged..but for some reason, even with data connection on all the time, battery is lasting for almost 4 hrs. I wonder wats happening now, with my phone's battery.
Although i have decided to order a new battery now, and i am mostly thinking to order one Samsung Battery from Samsung and one Mugen 5400 mAp battery too. But till i get those batteries, can i use my phone with this bulged battery?? Or will it damage my phone in anyway??
P. M. Vinay Kumar,
HTC P3400i (sold),
Samsung Galaxy S, rooted(sold),
Samsung Galaxy Note (using now),
Stock ICS, Rooted
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I think once it's started bulging, it's only going to increase in size and you run the risk of the seams splitting and it leaking which would make a real mess of the internals beyond repair pretty instantly., but that being said, I'd be surprised if that was to happen before you got replacements delivered. There's always a risk but you should be ok.
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I think once it's started bulging, it's only going to increase in size and you run the risk of the seams splitting and it leaking which would make a real mess of the internals beyond repair pretty instantly., but that being said, I'd be surprised if that was to happen before you got replacements delivered. There's always a risk but you should be ok.
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lord_pmvk said:
Ok guys thanks a lot for all your replies...but i want to know one thing for sure....using a bulged battery like the one i have now...does it damage the phone in anyway??
And the other thing i want to point out is, the battery is bulged..but for some reason, even with data connection on all the time, battery is lasting for almost 4 hrs. I wonder wats happening now, with my phone's battery.
Although i have decided to order a new battery now, and i am mostly thinking to order one Samsung Battery from Samsung and one Mugen 5400 mAp battery too. But till i get those batteries, can i use my phone with this bulged battery?? Or will it damage my phone in anyway??
P. M. Vinay Kumar,
HTC P3400i (sold),
Samsung Galaxy S, rooted(sold),
Samsung Galaxy Note (using now),
Stock ICS, Rooted
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I suggest you stop using a bloated battery ASAP... You'll never know when it will leak or explode.. It might be inside your pocket.. Hopefully not..
capitansid said:
I suggest you stop using a bloated battery ASAP... You'll never know when it will leak or explode.. It might be inside your pocket.. Hopefully not..
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LOL
Im the same my friend. I've not used my laptop in months. My gf lives in the usa do I'm on skype all the time as well as the net .
I had heat problems. It was down to the rom...well since I changed I've not had it . I'm using cassies with it stripped back . The middle choice in aroma .using hydracore OC but have it under clocked to 1200. The phone works great at that . Id say your games are a problem.don't use a case to play .id also say you are better keeping the charger on if you are using it a lot. Draining then charging and using stresses the tree. Better to keep it full.
Get CPU spy to see how much you are using the cpu and what frequencys. Do that and drop me a pm anytime:thumbup:
THAT BATTERY IS A BOMB! GET RID !!!!
If it ruptures and air gets in it will explode or catch fire .I KID YOU NOT !!!!
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Thanks
howard bamber said:
Im the same my friend. I've not used my laptop in months. My gf lives in the usa do I'm on skype all the time as well as the net .
I had heat problems. It was down to the rom...well since I changed I've not had it . I'm using cassies with it stripped back . The middle choice in aroma .using hydracore OC but have it under clocked to 1200. The phone works great at that . Id say your games are a problem.don't use a case to play .id also say you are better keeping the charger on if you are using it a lot. Draining then charging and using stresses the tree. Better to keep it full.
Get CPU spy to see how much you are using the cpu and what frequencys. Do that and drop me a pm anytime:thumbup:
THAT BATTERY IS A BOMB! GET RID !!!!
If it ruptures and air gets in it will explode or catch fire .I KID YOU NOT !!!!
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Thanks a lot for the information and the advice to get RID off the bloated battery, I thought Batteries exploding is a myth, but looks like I have to agree they may explode as so many members here say that.
The battery I am using has reached a state where I was unable to fit it with my back case, So I have replaced it with a genuine Samsung battery as I could not afford to wait, even for 3 or 4 days without my Note. But then, as you mentioned about cases being the reason for heat damage, I use the below two cases for my Note. Do you think they are harmful for Note?
http://www.flipkart.com/amzer-94203...PHAZ&ref=d3b725c6-32a7-4104-8329-3170c53c88c1
http://www.flipkart.com/amzer-92933...YC2Z&ref=f7c6e607-3dd6-4f38-bcc2-fcc748923dd0
And Yes, I have installed Cpu Spy as you suggested, I will let you know my findings.
i guess both the cases are fine.. just make sure none has magnets cuz that interferes with the touch and spen sensitivity
The battery used in the Galaxy Camera is the same one as used in the Samsung Galaxy S II. So you can pick these up for less than £10 so it's no problem keeping 1 or 2 spare with you when you're out and about.
Due to the nature of this camera, the battery performance isn't fantastic as expected and Sammy should have put a bigger capacity cell in there. But at least replacements are easy to come by.
apprentice said:
The battery used in the Galaxy Camera is the same one as used in the Samsung Galaxy II. So you can pick these up for less than £10 so it's no problem keeping 1 or 2 spare with you when you're out and about.
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I hate to ask this question and get blasted if it's already been answered elsewhere...but this seemed like the most logical place for it. I know the different versions of the Galaxy s2 have different batteries.
Which one would one use on the Galaxy Camera. Going on a trip over to Asia and don't want to have to recharge the camera every 10 minutes. Saw two versions from Anker on Amazon and was hoping someone could steer me in the right direction. Because I'm a noob I can't save you time and post the links.
Much appreciated. Don't hate me.
Mate get the Anker twin pack which comes with a free battery charger. BARGAIN! and they are great i use them in my Galaxy Camera.
1Nav said:
Mate get the Anker twin pack which comes with a free battery charger. BARGAIN! and they are great i use them in my Galaxy Camera.
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Thanks that's exactly what I was looking to do. But my dumb question is that there seems to be many variations of the 2 batteries and charger. Different mAH levels that say they only work for specific versions of the GS2. I'd hate to buy a battery that was too big with only a few days left before my trip and not enough time to exchange.
I assume that the different batteries that work with specific GS2s means that only one version works with the camera. Sorry to be such a douche about it. 1900 mAH that doesn't work with s2 II(SGH-I727) or s2 II(SGH-T989. 2200 mAH that doesn't work with S2I9100 etc. I don't know if you have as many versions to worry about on amazon as we do in the states since we have different carriers on different wireless technologies.
As long as the batteries fit shape-wise they should work. Anyway: the correct type is EB-F1A2GBU, 1650mAh.
But be careful, there are loads of fakes out there, just bought two (ok, they were unreasonable cheap) and they won't fit into the camera's battery slot (too thick).
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I bought 2 x Galaxy S2 1800mAh batteries and a charger for £9 off eBay and they work without any problems. I know there are 'fakes' out there with regards to the capacities but I have used ebay for replacement universal batteries for years for a whole range of phones and (so far) no problems. As ever pick a seller with good ratings and read the feedback etc and I don't see why you'd have any issues.
Regarding compatibility, I just used the original battery model number: EB-F1A2GBU and searched from there.
IAmCloud9 said:
I hate to ask this question and get blasted if it's already been answered elsewhere...but this seemed like the most logical place for it. I know the different versions of the Galaxy s2 have different batteries.
Which one would one use on the Galaxy Camera. Going on a trip over to Asia and don't want to have to recharge the camera every 10 minutes. Saw two versions from Anker on Amazon and was hoping someone could steer me in the right direction. Because I'm a noob I can't save you time and post the links.
Much appreciated. Don't hate me.
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Just use Samsung original battery for Galaxy S II GT-I9100....
Samsung release two models, 1650mAh like the one that comes default on GT-I9100, and 2000mAh official extended battery. The size is the same, so both can be used with SGC.
When I bought mine at the AT&T store here in NY, they gave me a Samsung charging kit for free. The kit has a Samsung battery charger and an extra Samsung battery.
I'm jealous, I didn't get this kit when I bought mine from AT&T. :/
dalethefarmer said:
When I bought mine at the AT&T store here in NY, they gave me a Samsung charging kit for free. The kit has a Samsung battery charger and an extra Samsung battery.
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sulfix said:
I'm jealous, I didn't get this kit when I bought mine from AT&T. :/
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In Indonesia, if you buy this on the launching day, you get battery kit (1x 1650mAh battery + 1x external charger) and protective film for the display :laugh:
I bought mine from att as well. I actually asked if there were any promotions going on for the camera and that's when they brought up the charger. They didn't volunteer the information. Go back into the store and ask.
80000037 said:
Just use Samsung original battery for Galaxy S II GT-I9100....
Samsung release two models, 1650mAh like the one that comes default on GT-I9100, and 2000mAh official extended battery. The size is the same, so both can be used with SGC.
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Question, the battery that you can fit in to Galaxy Camera, is it 1650mAh or 2000mAh?
soyusa said:
Question, the battery that you can fit in to Galaxy Camera, is it 1650mAh or 2000mAh?
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The post you quoted said "the size is the same" and "both can be used with sgc "
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soyusa said:
Question, the battery that you can fit in to Galaxy Camera, is it 1650mAh or 2000mAh?
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Both can fit as long as they are Samsung original battery for SGS2.
I can't say the same for other non official 2000mAh (or more) extended battery :fingers-crossed:
uberNoobZA said:
The post you quoted said "the size is the same" and "both can be used with sgc "
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LOL :laugh:
80000037 said:
Just use Samsung original battery for Galaxy S II GT-I9100....
Samsung release two models, 1650mAh like the one that comes default on GT-I9100, and 2000mAh official extended battery. The size is the same, so both can be used with SGC.
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Can i use Samsung Battery Charger Stand for Galaxy S II to recharge the Galaxy Camera original batteries?
As the batteries are exactly the same model they will fit in the charger, so absolutely, yes.
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Last but not least...can i use Galaxy Camera charger to charge the battery with the charger stand? The output of the Galaxy Camera charger is 5V 1A but the input of the charger stand is 5V 0.7A...
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You can use all accessories from the galaxy s2 and galaxy cam for the batteries.
The batteries are 100% identical. But be careful, there are extremly many fake-batteries out there.
It took me three times to buy really original batteries.
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apprentice said:
The battery used in the Galaxy Camera is the same one as used in the Samsung Galaxy II. So you can pick these up for less than £10 so it's no problem keeping 1 or 2 spare with you when you're out and about.
Due to the nature of this camera, the battery performance isn't fantastic as expected and Sammy should have put a bigger capacity cell in there. But at least replacements are easy to come by.
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I heard that the batteries are also the same as the AT&T Galaxy S II (not the Captivate version). Is this true?
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Just bought "Genuine Battery" on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400370717880
That's the sh it i received :
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/36186720130107114300.jpg
Too thick, can't fit in.
Can someone please post link to a good one, at a good price ?
Hello XDA,
Does this tablet have quick charge capability? I have 8.0 LTE model. Many thanks.
it doesn't list this in the official specs unfortunately...
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No really but if you charge it with the S6 it will be faster.
I've had a Note 4 for about a year, usually using Quick Charge, so it feels like the S2 takes soooo long to charge :laugh: Honestly, I think the lack of Quick Charge is a good thing overall. I've felt like this was the case for a while, but now it seems like the general consensus in the N4 forums: Quick Charge is no bueno for the life and longevity and health of your battery. I just rotate between two spares in my phone and don't worry about it. I'm not sure if there's some trick to getting to the S2 battery but it looks to me like trying to do so would be a good way to bust some important hardware. Not sure if the lack of QC was a cost cutting measure or if it was intentional to increase the life of the device, but either way, I think we're better off.
The Note 8 promised long battery service life, that is, high maintenance of original charge. Samsung promised that after a year, the battery would still retain 95% of its original capacity. Using Accubattery, my Note 8 has achieved this. This is vastly superior to what I experienced with the battery on my Galaxy S7.
I don't know much about batteries, but from owning Thinkpad laptops, I know you can get long service life from a lithium battery by deliberately not allowing it to charge to 100% of rated capacity (this is a setting in the Thinkpad battery firmware, accessible from Windows or Linux). If this is the same way that Samsung did this, it means the Note 8 battery has more capacity than it reports. (3300 mAh), achieving long service life by undercharging. This would mean that Samsung gets weaker reviews since out of the box it offers less runtime, but owners get the benefit of sustained runtime compared with previous phones. A pretty courageous move, if my speculation is true. The other possibility is that the Note 8/ Galaxy 8 has some very high spec battery technology which is significantly less exposed to typical capacity degradation.
So now, the Note 9 has a 4000 mAh battery but with almost no change in dimensions, which is curious. Is Samsung still claiming the long service life that it claimed in the Note 8/ Galaxy 8 generation?
I would like to know the answer to this as well.
The device is thicker and wider and 700mah isnt THAT much more physical size wise. But why wouldn't their claims on battery longevity still hold up?
timrichardson said:
The Note 8 promised long battery service life, that is, high maintenance of original charge. Samsung promised that after a year, the battery would still retain 95% of its original capacity. Using Accubattery, my Note 8 has achieved this. This is vastly superior to what I experienced with the battery on my Galaxy S7.
I don't know much about batteries, but from owning Thinkpad laptops, I know you can get long service life from a lithium battery by deliberately not allowing it to charge to 100% of rated capacity (this is a setting in the Thinkpad battery firmware, accessible from Windows or Linux). If this is the same way that Samsung did this, it means the Note 8 battery has more capacity than it reports. (3300 mAh), achieving long service life by undercharging. This would mean that Samsung gets weaker reviews since out of the box it offers less runtime, but owners get the benefit of sustained runtime compared with previous phones. A pretty courageous move, if my speculation is true. The other possibility is that the Note 8/ Galaxy 8 has some very high spec battery technology which is significantly less exposed to typical capacity degradation.
So now, the Note 9 has a 4000 mAh battery but with almost no change in dimensions, which is curious. Is Samsung still claiming the long service life that it claimed in the Note 8/ Galaxy 8 generation?
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I actually didn't find the same situation to be the case on my S8. I found that at new, the battery could pull close to 6h SOT, and after 500 cycles or so (checked with Phone INFO app), it was closer to 3.5-4h. Not that 4h is a bad figure, and it was still fairly respectable, but it is not 95% retained. Same for my mom's S8, at first was doing 6.5-7h, and now is pulling closer to 3h. I got my battery replaced under warranty at the 1 year mark, but my mom hasn't and it's starting to show.
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I actually didn't find the same situation to be the case on my S8. I found that at new, the battery could pull close to 6h SOT, and after 500 cycles or so (checked with Phone INFO app), it was closer to 3.5-4h. Not that 4h is a bad figure, and it was still fairly respectable, but it is not 95% retained. Same for my mom's S8, at first was doing 6.5-7h, and now is pulling closer to 3h. I got my battery replaced under warranty at the 1 year mark, but my mom hasn't and it's starting to show.
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It might be a bad software update. My Note 8 battery started to suffer until I upgraded to Oreo. Maybe some thing to do with refreshing the battery meter.
AB__CD said:
I actually didn't find the same situation to be the case on my S8. I found that at new, the battery could pull close to 6h SOT, and after 500 cycles or so (checked with Phone INFO app), it was closer to 3.5-4h. Not that 4h is a bad figure, and it was still fairly respectable, but it is not 95% retained. Same for my mom's S8, at first was doing 6.5-7h, and now is pulling closer to 3h. I got my battery replaced under warranty at the 1 year mark, but my mom hasn't and it's starting to show.
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The long battery life technology was for the note 8 and going forward, not the s8.
mike2518 said:
The long battery life technology was for the note 8 and going forward, not the s8.
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It was claimed by Samsung for S8/S8+ as well.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/...ill-degrade-less-quickly-than-the-galaxy-s7s/
timrichardson said:
So now, the Note 9 has a 4000 mAh battery but with almost no change in dimensions, which is curious. Is Samsung still claiming the long service life that it claimed in the Note 8/ Galaxy 8 generation?
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Have we seen any official documentation of retaining that 95% battery in Samsung product webpages or leaflets/warranty information??
It was all about official "Claims" for the S8/S8+/Note 8.
Samsung haven't made the same "claim" for the Note 9 yet. Probably will, without mentioning in any official documentation/product pages.
mike2518 said:
The long battery life technology was for the note 8 and going forward, not the s8.
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/...ill-degrade-less-quickly-than-the-galaxy-s7s/
pcriz said:
The device is thicker and wider and 700mah isnt THAT much more physical size wise. But why wouldn't their claims on battery longevity still hold up?
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Yeah, it wpoould be best if they included 5.000mAh but 4.000 mAh is still acceptable.
I'd like to know how other's batteries are holding up. I've had my 9 for a month or two now and AccuBattery Pro is showing my battery health as 97% (3882mah) already. I'm not sure how reliable that app is for that stat, but dropping 3% already kind of has me irked a bit.
The only thing i have noticed is when my s7edge and s8+ got oreo my battery life on both those devices was no where near when i first got them. As for my note 9 the max SOT i have gotten so far is 8 hours and 12 min in QHD, i was sitting at 11% battery before i plugged it in.
I have the Mate 20 Pro and it absolutely smashes everything out there. It has outstanding battery life
RockwellB1 said:
I'd like to know how other's batteries are holding up. I've had my 9 for a month or two now and AccuBattery Pro is showing my battery health as 97% (3882mah) already. I'm not sure how reliable that app is for that stat, but dropping 3% already kind of has me irked a bit.
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There was a semi big debate about this on this forum. Accubattery Pro doesn't apparantly show the correct figure from the get go. I'm assuming you didn't use Accubattery from day one to show the before health stats to current? I say this because from day one mine showed 97% health or lower.
Aida64 app also shows the battery capacity at below 4000mAh from new. Hence why Accubattery doesn't show 100% health .
Either Samsung has not implemented 4000mAh batteries in many devices or they are designed in such a way as not to show their actual values in apps.
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My Note 9 is 5 days old, and Accubattery says 94%. It's nonsense.
So basically AccuBattery on the 9 is only really good for the charge alarm it sounds like. That makes me feel a bit better. Either way I get great performance so I'm pretty happy with the phone. I normally get between 8 and 10 hours sot so it blows all my older phones except my Note 4 with 12000mah battery out of the water.
RockwellB1 said:
So basically AccuBattery on the 9 is only really good for the charge alarm it sounds like. That makes me feel a bit better. Either way I get great performance so I'm pretty happy with the phone. I normally get between 8 and 10 hours sot so it blows all my older phones except my Note 4 with 12000mah battery out of the water.
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For alarm charge,discarge :
Battery Charge Notifier
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.utopi.batterychargenotifier
Limeybastard said:
There was a semi big debate about this on this forum. Accubattery Pro doesn't apparantly show the correct figure from the get go. I'm assuming you didn't use Accubattery from day one to show the before health stats to current? I say this because from day one mine showed 97% health or lower.
Aida64 app also shows the battery capacity at below 4000mAh from new. Hence why Accubattery doesn't show 100% health .
Either Samsung has not implemented 4000mAh batteries in many devices or they are designed in such a way as not to show their actual values in apps.
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Those apps are just estimating. There is no hardware components for such accurate power usage observation in the phones to tell you exactly how much the battery degraded/hold in the first place. Don't trust them that much + battery life in long run is not affected only from the battery degradation, but also from updates and not least important - the applications themself that becomes heavier with every update = the CPU/GPU scales higher and that needs more power and thus shorten the battery life.
Simple example, my HTC M8 eat for breakfast every app back then when it was released. Messenger? NP! Facebook? Lol, 10% CPU usage. And so on. Nowdays it will still run all of those fluid and fine, but instead of 1500MHz 2 cores for example, will use 4 cores at 2000GHz. This affects power usage when it's all apps basically. So it's not just the battery degradation.
That should sum it up about the topic.
My note 9 is also around 94% battery since day one. But this was not the case with the Note 8. I was at around 103-105% battery capacity on the Note 8 for a long time.
It is an estimate and not perfectly accurate but Samsung does have the ability to measure battery wear.
On jailbroken iPhones you can get the exact wear percentage and now iOS has battery wear shown directly in battery settings.
ihaveabu said:
My note 9 is also around 94% battery since day one. But this was not the case with the Note 8. I was at around 103-105% battery capacity on the Note 8 for a long time.
It is an estimate and not perfectly accurate but Samsung does have the ability to measure battery wear.
On jailbroken iPhones you can get the exact wear percentage and now iOS has battery wear shown directly in battery settings.
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Your first paragraph, same here. Hence why I mentioned either Samsung have changed something battery electronics wise or they are not giving us usable 4000mAh.
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