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Tizen on Galaxy Gear...

Hello,
It seems that Galaxy Gear will be update with"Tizen".What do you think about this?: Confus:http://www.androidpit.fr/samsung-galaxy-gear-tizen-mise-a-jour

If I want Tizen but I dont I will make a move to Gear 2, so in my case I will stay with my beautiful and good GG + null_, perfect combination!

it may be greatest thing ever or i may stay on Android for awhile. curious to see what fomey will do with it.
cool thing is that i just read an article where there is already a 1 CLICK port of Android apk's to run on Tizen so with this thrown into the mix it may be i update sooner than i expect.

fletch33 said:
it may be greatest thing ever or i may stay on Android for awhile. curious to see what fomey will do with it.
cool thing is that i just read an article where there is already a 1 CLICK port of Android apk's to run on Tizen so with this thrown into the mix it may be i update sooner than i expect.
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Still looking for confirmation from Samsung about this though.

fletch33 said:
it may be greatest thing ever or i may stay on Android for awhile. curious to see what fomey will do with it.
cool thing is that i just read an article where there is already a 1 CLICK port of Android apk's to run on Tizen so with this thrown into the mix it may be i update sooner than i expect.
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Very cool, do you have that link?

The 1click thing is $5000 per app from a korean company, they do it inhouse
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spinedoc said:
Very cool, do you have that link?
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rbebber said:
The 1click thing is $5000 per app from a korean company, they do it inhouse
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here is the link.
i doubt it will take others long to duplicate this process. when/if Tizen grows that price tag will disappear but good to know it already exist.

If you can port Android to Tizen for $5000 ....
Is it not just wrapping the app in a virtual machine, there be a lot of over head.
Some apps many apps have very small audience nobody pay $5000 to port them.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660687

Samsung Galaxy Gear with Tizen - All things Tizen here.

Is this realy going to happen?
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/14/exclusive-samsung-galaxy-gear-tizen-preview/
How about our presence here at the forum? Is this a Android exclusiv?

Im from SamMobile and this is going to happen. We obtained a test build...
This will be done in the near future..
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Wondering. Does Tizen increase battery life on the GG1.
Update. Question was asked and answered on Sammobile - YES!
Anyone know for WatchStyler faces can be used with the Tizen update?

Jeshter2000 said:
Im from SamMobile and this is going to happen. We obtained a test build...
This will be done in the near future..
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Is it possible to share the test build?

flow78 said:
Is it possible to share the test build?
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Im sorry we cant, as this would reveal the source of the build and someone may loose their job...
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Does it look like the update will come through gear manager or will it be a kies flash required?

Jeshter2000 said:
Im sorry we cant, as this would reveal the source of the build and someone may loose their job...
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Ok I understand. thanks

raiu said:
Does it look like the update will come through gear manager or will it be a kies flash required?
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They are figuring ecerything out to let you flash through kies... Cause now you have to seperate programs. 1 to change the bootloader for Android to Tizen and the normal Odin to flash the ROM itself.. As this is to difficult for normal users. They figuring our how to do thia through Kies
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Thanks for the heads up, nice leaked info! however, android for life! hehehe

Now they just need to port Android to the Gear 2!

dkb218 said:
Anyone know for WatchStyler faces can be used with the Tizen update?
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Latest version of watchstyler (v1.2) has support for gear 2, so you'd assume the answer is yes

This is too bad. Seems like getting 4.4 and Android Wear are out the window at this point unless someone can compile AOSP for the Gear.

Or a dedicated and talented developer ports android wear to our gear, just like they do with cell phones. Hopefully our gear are not hardware limited to run wear in the future.

allendj81 said:
Or a dedicated and talented developer ports android wear to our gear, just like they do with cell phones. Hopefully our gear are not hardware limited to run wear in the future.
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I'm surprised there's not more talk about getting android wear on the original gear. It's far exceeds the hardware requirements of android wear and already comes with android. Not only that, but it uses the components from some flagship Samsung mobile phones. CPU-GPU included, oh and if anyone says it's because it's not possible make a new android version run an old android device. Look at the original galaxy s with jelly bean.

Nianfur said:
I'm surprised there's not more talk about getting android wear on the original gear. It's far exceeds the hardware requirements of android wear and already comes with android. Not only that, but it uses the components from some flagship Samsung mobile phones. CPU-GPU included, oh and if anyone says it's because it's not possible make a new android version run an old android device. Look at the original galaxy s with jelly bean.
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i think that the problem of android wear is that there are no real sources, you have the test build images, but no clean sources to start a new rom from scratch like for aosp

Am I correct in assuming that upgrading to tizen will break connectivity with non touch wizz phones? I'm pairing my original galaxy note with aokp to my gear with great results. I would love to have the battery savings that tizen offers but it would be useless if I can't connect to my phone..
Also does anyone know if tizen is open source? Meaning that somebody talented would be able to make it work with unsupported phones..

crutzulee said:
Am I correct in assuming that upgrading to tizen will break connectivity with non touch wizz phones? I'm pairing my original galaxy note with aokp to my gear with great results. I would love to have the battery savings that tizen offers but it would be useless if I can't connect to my phone..
Also does anyone know if tizen is open source? Meaning that somebody talented would be able to make it work with unsupported phones..
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actually not, it seems that guys with gear 2 are connecting theirs too with non touchwizz phones ! I'm not sure but I think they managed even notifications.

Can anyone confirm that you can flash the bootloader back from Tizen to android?

No more apps from Google Play, goodbye Tasker! goodbye gear

if someone can leak the version of tizen that's doing the rounds at Samsung atm then we could theoreticly flash to and back from tizen and android
atm according to rumour there is a version getting testing but in involves manual flashing ,in 2 parts, the bootloader and the system
if this is the case ,then its possible to flash back from tizen ,
but also according to rumour, they don't want to release any firmwares that's not easy enough to do in kies or odin to a "average user"
I would love the tizen available now just to test it
come on leak it

have you seen this Gear before?????

i just purchased this with 30$ in my country from a guy and every things work find,i can charge and connect to pc to root this device,the only thing not work is camera :angel:

How about the feature?
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IngressID said:
How about the feature?
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every thing work fine mate except camera i already root and but on some apps

That's not a Gear, it's a knock off. There's probably nothing behind the camera lens. Here's the back of a real Gear.

BarryH_GEG said:
That's not a Gear, it's a knock off. There's probably nothing behind the camera lens. Here's the back of a real Gear.
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well except camera every things work for me :silly:

lgiang94 said:
well except camera every things work for me :silly:
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My s/n sequence it totally different than yours.

BarryH_GEG said:
My s/n sequence it totally different than yours.
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yeah that the weird thing

BarryH_GEG said:
My s/n sequence it totally different than yours.
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mate this is so weird because is seem like this is galaxy gear

Hate to be "that guy" but showing pics of the front and back mean nothing to me. .. for all I know you are trying to sell these things in ebay and you are linking people to this site with the ol "go check out the pics and comments"... it is mega simple for you to post pics of a BS back and jacked up about screen on a knock off gear and screen shots of a legit gear in the same post and pass them off as the same device. .... like I said not to sound like that guy ... just saying what I think. .. I will back pedal on my statements with a simple video post of the device showing all the above screen shots. .. hell you did not even show a pic with the stock Samsung clock. ..[emoji37]

fireishott said:
Hate to be "that guy" but showing pics of the front and back mean nothing to me. .. for all I know you are trying to sell these things in ebay and you are linking people to this site with the ol "go check out the pics and comments"... it is mega simple for you to post pics of a BS back and jacked up about screen on a knock off gear and screen shots of a legit gear in the same post and pass them off as the same device. .... like I said not to sound like that guy ... just saying what I think. .. I will back pedal on my statements with a simple video post of the device showing all the above screen shots. .. hell you did not even show a pic with the stock Samsung clock. ..[emoji37]
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well you think to much mate i just want to show people this weird "Gear" .Every things work fine so i'm not going to sell "these things" and mate i dont even know how to use ebay :laugh::laugh::laugh:

lgiang94 said:
well you think to much mate i just want to show people this weird "Gear" .Every things work fine so i'm not going to sell "these things" and mate i dont even know how to use ebay :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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You purchased it "from a guy"? Seems legit. But seriously if you think this is a real Gear, you're wildly mistaken. In fact there are a lot of different rip offs - see below.
The camera doesn't work because it's a fake - furthermore, it's not even running Tizen, as your firmware states : V700XXUBNC1, (AKA android).
Buy cheap, buy thrice and enjoy your cheap knock off

jonboyuk said:
You purchased it "from a guy"? Seems legit. But seriously if you think this is a real Gear, you're wildly mistaken. In fact there are a lot of different rip offs - see below.
The camera doesn't work because it's a fake - furthermore, it's not even running Tizen, as your firmware states : V700XXUBNC1, (AKA android).
Buy cheap, buy thrice and enjoy your cheap knock off
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ok i still believe this is a real gear only broken camera and is not running tizen because i not update to it .this is my gear so you can check is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VNb7o390M

lgiang94 said:
ok i still believe this is a real gear only broken camera and is not running tizen because i not update to it .this is my gear so you can check is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VNb7o390M
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Why wouldn't you update to Tizen considering it's better in every way?! If you think it's genuine, then maybe Tizen will fix your camera issue? Plug it into your PC, what does Samsung Kies say about your device?

Real or not for 30 bucks you win and it works just like a real one kudos bro
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jonboyuk said:
Why wouldn't you update to Tizen considering it's better in every way?! If you think it's genuine, then maybe Tizen will fix your camera issue? Plug it into your PC, what does Samsung Kies say about your device?
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i not trying with samsung kies and i dont want to update to tizen yet because i like 3rd apps after root this device

i update it to tizen via Samsung kies and the camera still not working every things work fine the only weird thing is the serial number is all zero to me

Cod3L1ne said:
Real or not for 30 bucks you win and it works just like a real one kudos bro
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Apart from the camera!
lgiang94 said:
i update it to tizen via Samsung kies and the camera still not working every things work fine the only weird thing is the serial number is all zero to me
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Ya I don't think the camera's going to work. It's obviously a very good fake, fair play, but you're not going to get that working. It's a shame because it's the best feature of the gear imo!

jonboyuk said:
Why wouldn't you update to Tizen considering it's better in every way?! If you think it's genuine, then maybe Tizen will fix your camera issue? Plug it into your PC, what does Samsung Kies say about your device?
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Off topic I know, but I am interested in the 'its better in every way?' comment about Tizen. Early on there were teething probems it seemed but it is have been difficult to obtain up to date feedback. I have a Gear that I am considering moving to Tizen, but I have been waiting to learn if early problems have all gone away or were not real anyway.

jonboyuk said:
Why wouldn't you update to Tizen considering it's better in every way?! If you think it's genuine, then maybe Tizen will fix your camera issue? Plug it into your PC, what does Samsung Kies say about your device?
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If I had Tizen on mine, I would gladly throw it away.
Tizen is not everyone. Definitely not for me.

ogre8 said:
Off topic I know, but I am interested in the 'its better in every way?' comment about Tizen. Early on there were teething probems it seemed but it is have been difficult to obtain up to date feedback. I have a Gear that I am considering moving to Tizen, but I have been waiting to learn if early problems have all gone away or were not real anyway.
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It depends on your problems. My issue was lack of apps. Now the store for Tizen is saturated compared to its former iteration. The battery is better, the way it deals with notifications (esp delete all)! The fact it can play music to a BT device are to name a few. For me I'd not even consider going back to Android.
@hurdlejade Definitely each to their own!

I screwed up. I bought the Gear 2 Neo & thought it would work with Nexus 5 Lollipop

I screwed up. I bought the Gear 2 Neo & thought it would work with Nexus 5 Lollipop
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.

carpediem said:
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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Use the gear manager v1.2. Some reported that it works with lollipop. But I have not tried it.

crime_of_heart said:
Use the gear manager v1.2. Some reported that it works with lollipop. But I have not tried it.
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I tried 1.2 but it didn't seem to connect to the Neo. BT connected, but the manager timed out.

TeaPotDev said:
I tried 1.2 but it didn't seem to connect to the Neo. BT connected, but the manager timed out.
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Wait for Gear Manager Lollipop edition. Starting this month, it will come to S5, so automaticaly will update Gear Manager. Be patient, it will work soon. Worth a try...

merlin2578 said:
Wait for Gear Manager Lollipop edition. Starting this month, it will come to S5, so automaticaly will update Gear Manager. Be patient, it will work soon. Worth a try...
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How likely is it? Is using Gear Manager a compromise compared to Android Wear?
Would it be better to just sell the watch and get one that is more compatible?

carpediem said:
How likely is it? Is using Gear Manager a compromise compared to Android Wear?
Would it be better to just sell the watch and get one that is more compatible?
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For now does't work, i must back to 4.4.4 becouse with S4 5.02 not work. Terrible

carpediem said:
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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I tried it on a very early alpha version of lollipop on my Samsung device and it worked. But I hate to burst your bubble, it will be at least another couple of months until it is stable and more generally available. It relies heavy on gear manager which relies on the touchwiz environment. Why, for Pete's sake, this route was chosen is maybe one of Samsung's downfalls. Within two years they will be out of the market if they keep going with their business model, this consumer market does not care, but like you, will remember. Examples of such electronic giants reduced to rubble? Nokia, Nortel, Blackberry
Consumers want stuff to work, simple without all these prerequisites that are in fine print.
Tbh you are best of selling or donate it to a family member with a Samsung phone that has to be running Jellybean 4.3 or KitKat. Preferably a galaxy phone so S4, Note3, ß5 or Note4. Others.... Will not work without breaking their OS
Sad but true

Anyone tried Gear 2 Neo to see if it works with the newly pushed Android 5.0.1 on i9500 and i9506?
I'm curious if it will work from day 1 on i9505 when 5.0.1 will be pushed to these devices.
Thanks!

I have i9506, nordic edition and gear 2 neo, and they work together. Even better than on Kitkat, as s health was not receiving the Gear data for pedometer and such.
Now even that works. My s4 on the otherhand is laggy as hell with 5.0.1 , but that is not the issue here

I've installed i9505 5.0.1 and Samsung Gear doesn't work anymore. When started, it blinks a 1-2 times and crashes silently. I cannot connect to the watch with anything else (Android Wear for ex.) either.
Any ideas?
Later edit: I enabled bluetooth debug in Android Wear and tried several more times to connect through S-Gear and now it seems it connected and is trying to install additional software... hope it works out.
Haha, phone did a factory reset on the watch and now I'm trying again to connect to it .
Later edit: after managing to soft brick my phone, I reinstalled the 5.0.1 and this time, amazingly enough, Samsung Gear worked as it was supposed to so my watch is back to normal functions again.

nexus 5
so is it possible to pair gear2 with nexus 5 on android 5.1.1?

1rustam1 said:
so is it possible to pair gear2 with nexus 5 on android 5.1.1?
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I'd also like to know this? I see the posts on this thread were few months ago, so I wonder if within these months there is any solution for this?
Also wheret o get the said gear manager app? How about the android wear app?
Thanks in advantage.

KassieMB said:
I'd also like to know this? I see the posts on this thread were few months ago, so I wonder if within these months there is any solution for this?
Also wheret o get the said gear manager app? How about the android wear app?
Thanks in advantage.
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Hello,
I tried every possible thing I found on the internet. Even went to change the name of the phone and model in /system files, without any success. I did manage, after downgrading to 4.4.4 to connect to the gear 2 neo, but I couldn't use any of it's features except answering the phone via the watch. I'm thinking maybe I can change the ROM of the watch to tizen and then make a connection with android wear. I searched but didn't find anyone who did this on gear 2 neo. Theoretically, it should work. I will post if I manage to do something.
Cheers,
Alex

hashde said:
Hello,
I tried every possible thing I found on the internet. Even went to change the name of the phone and model in /system files, without any success. I did manage, after downgrading to 4.4.4 to connect to the gear 2 neo, but I couldn't use any of it's features except answering the phone via the watch. I'm thinking maybe I can change the ROM of the watch to tizen and then make a connection with android wear. I searched but didn't find anyone who did this on gear 2 neo. Theoretically, it should work. I will post if I manage to do something.
Cheers,
Alex
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Answering calls work with Lollipop too,just pair watch in Bluetooth settings. Second... You should install Android rom on watch,not Tizen. There is also Android Wear mod possibility... Roms for Gear 2 should also work on Neo (except camera)
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Samsung Gear. Tizen or Android?

Hi. Bought a Galaxy Gear 1. It's still on Android at the moment. Is it worth upgrading to Tizen? Are there any major advantages or disadvantages? Thanks

Battery is better on Tizen and there are more apps from the store. But it looks like Android is the only way to get it working with Lollipop at least with non Samsung phones.

Thanks for the reply. I'll do a bit more research. I read you can revert back to android but is that 100% or just if your lucky.
Thanks

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I would say android all the way. I have tried tizen and didn't last long before downgrading. Android has a lot more apps available from play store and is much more versatile. Better battery on tizen perhaps but you can always clock the speed down on android which helps.

b_kennedy said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll do a bit more research. I read you can revert back to android but is that 100% or just if your lucky.
Thanks
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I have done it honestly 30 times or more, it works 100% but you have to follow the directions to a T otherwise you end up with touch not working. If that happens just start over, it's happened to me a few times by not booting to recovery.

joesnose said:
I would say android all the way. I have tried tizen and didn't last long before downgrading. Android has a lot more apps available from play store and is much more versatile. Better battery on tizen perhaps but you can always clock the speed down on android which helps.
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The Gear I has been on Tizen since July of 2014; almost a year. Do any of the original third party Android apps even still work? I'd imagine Samsung's work to some extent but even they'll sunset as Android isn't a supported OS for the Gear I any longer. If someone's using a Gear with a non-Samsung phone I guess that's different because it's kind of "franken-phone" set up any way. But with all the cheap Android Wear options available that really do work with any Android phone it seems kind of illogical to cling to a Samsung-biased device anyway.

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Null ROM is jellybean, jellybean is still very much supported. Just install play store and you have just about any app availiable , screen size permitting.

I think that Android, null rom, have no support for NOTIFICATIONS if Lollipop is on the phone (Note 3). No way to make them work, for me. Tried a lot of Gear Manager versions... :/

gambit3rd said:
I think that Android, null rom, have no support for NOTIFICATIONS if Lollipop is on the phone (Note 3). No way to make them work, for me. Tried a lot of Gear Manager versions... :/
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hi ,
i find it strange ,that you are struggling to get it to work ?
My setup is Note 4 ( N910F ) Lollipop v 5.0.1 and my Gear Null ROM ..i have no problems with notifications from Note 4 /Gear .. .Gear manager v 1.8.022599, works 100%, no issues
Been using above combo for long time .
good luck

But he probably didn't check notification access in settings...
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But he probably didn't check notification access in settings...
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I got some real over heating problems with using null 23 Rom for the Samsung gear 1. It continued to get really hot on my wrist and also displayed and over heating icon while charging. It have me hell to revert back to stock android, but I did. Dont know if I did something wrong but I did not try it again.

Very happy with Tizen.
I had such hi hopes for my gear but the app store was hopeless with the exception of watchstyler, upgraded to Tizen 3 days ago and can not believe the difference, Tizen really gives the gear wings. The watch faces in the Tizen app store are REALLY nice and I now have the apps I need, calender, calculater, flashlight and an app that lets me see on my watch through my phones camera. Not sure about the battery life but am so pleased to have upgraded.