In-app subscription, not Google Play, where? - App Stores

I am from Romania and Google doesn't want to make merchant account from us => I can't publish any payed app, in-app purchases.
I would like to publish an app, which which has in-app purchase: 1 month or 3 month subscription. - similar logic needed the newsletter apps.
Where to publish?
At Samsung apps I have an account, I have checked to receive payment to Paypal, which is very fine, but when I have submitted a very basic app he has the status of "Under device test" it seems it a very long process at they: 7 days elapsed and still under test. A VERY BASIC APP.
Next thing it was to check the Amazon app store. I can't remember where I read, but at one page I saw they require exclusive apps. I am not sure if I rename the project to HelloWord_amazon it will be enough different then the HelloWord published at Samsung even if the first screen title is changed. Can you confirm?
At other time, other page I saw something related to payments: need to fill some formulas to not have double taxation at Amazon. Is it true, valid?
How are they sales for payed apps, in-app purchases, what percent in 2014? is like: 80% Google Play, 15% Amazon, 5% Samsung?
How are your sales at this stores.
Around 10-15% of the phones are rooted only. Mine too. So I am blocking ads very easy. This is one of the main reason why I use rooted phone.
It can be detected programatically, if somebody blocking the ads or not. But if blocking what to do? - he decided to use rooted phone and dropped even the phone warranty ... he is very decided about he don't want to see ads at any price, nor to pay to be removed.
Once I have used an app, which detected me as adds blocker, it was a message for me with some text and pressing OK the app exited. I gave a negative review and uninstalled...because it is useless the app for me.
I don't want to make an ads version of my software, nor to mine and sale the user data, personal info.
Just pay the subscription or go away method I want, only. Where to publish in my case?

Where to publish
matheszabi said:
I am from Romania and Google doesn't want to make merchant account from us => I can't publish any payed app, in-app purchases.
I would like to publish an app, which which has in-app purchase: 1 month or 3 month subscription. - similar logic needed the newsletter apps.
Where to publish?
At Samsung apps I have an account, I have checked to receive payment to Paypal, which is very fine, but when I have submitted a very basic app he has the status of "Under device test" it seems it a very long process at they: 7 days elapsed and still under test. A VERY BASIC APP.
Next thing it was to check the Amazon app store. I can't remember where I read, but at one page I saw they require exclusive apps. I am not sure if I rename the project to HelloWord_amazon it will be enough different then the HelloWord published at Samsung even if the first screen title is changed. Can you confirm?
At other time, other page I saw something related to payments: need to fill some formulas to not have double taxation at Amazon. Is it true, valid?
How are they sales for payed apps, in-app purchases, what percent in 2014? is like: 80% Google Play, 15% Amazon, 5% Samsung?
How are your sales at this stores.
Around 10-15% of the phones are rooted only. Mine too. So I am blocking ads very easy. This is one of the main reason why I use rooted phone.
It can be detected programatically, if somebody blocking the ads or not. But if blocking what to do? - he decided to use rooted phone and dropped even the phone warranty ... he is very decided about he don't want to see ads at any price, nor to pay to be removed.
Once I have used an app, which detected me as adds blocker, it was a message for me with some text and pressing OK the app exited. I gave a negative review and uninstalled...because it is useless the app for me.
I don't want to make an ads version of my software, nor to mine and sale the user data, personal info.
Just pay the subscription or go away method I want, only. Where to publish in my case?
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Google, Samsung & Amazon have specific requirements in regard to the payments SDK that you use. Most of the other alternate stores do not have any restrictions regarding in-app payments. Consider a solution like Lotaris for managing your payments across stores and then submit your app to stores without restrictions like Opera, Mobango, Mobiles24, Nexva, 1Mobile, CNet, etc.

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Paid apps, why i can't see them ?

thats the problem, why i cant see paid apps ? i remember that when i got my G1 and flashed Cyanogen MOD about idk 3 or 4 months ago, i could see the paid apps :S but then between i didnt even bother if they were there or no, and that i didnt have wi fi or data service, i just forget of that but now i have wi fi and wanna see the paid apps too :S but why i cant ?
it has to do with the six six six in ur name .
now go purify your soul in the waters of lake minatonka
no but realy , maybe its cuz ur country does not support paid apps , maybe ur were accessing it after it wus enabled with market enabler and since 1.6 i think thats been a lil messed up
im from Argentina, maybe thats why xD but since Moto Droid es coming here, you guys think that Paid Apps will be enabled ?
Still no paid apps in most countries
i am in China and I have the same problem.
Only 7 or 9 countries have paid apps. Google says it's because of the local mobile operators not allowing it or not having signed up for it. At the very beginning they said it's because of export & tax regulations that are different in all countries, but that should be totally bogus, because why Amazon or Software companies can sell online everywhere, just not the almighty Google?
To be honest, I believe this is more of a "test the market" type of business strategy, because - as a matter of fact - G1 and Android, etc. have not reached such a large market share and thus running the distribution for paid apps in 160 countries does indeed have cost implications that may not be justified for Google yet.
that doesn't mean i like it this way.
What really nags me is that since I used Market Enabler, Google is obviously regularly locking my account (sometimes for up to 12 hours). It happens every time i "fake" a mobile signature with Market Enabler, and when I go back to "normal" - i just can't sign in, and in that moment I can also not download any apps, INCLUDING free apps
i have a strong feeling that google has build a mechanism that checks where the user appears to be (based on the values of the SIM signature) and where he appeared to be before... and the algorithm accordingly blocks access to google account for a period of time.
It should be easy to determine, because I happen to be registered with China Mobile in one instance, and with O2 in Germany just a minute later, and maybe a few moments later with T-Mobile in the USA......
This is however extremely annoying, and considering the 230 EUR that I paid for my G1 (including google software licenses (i.e. for market, etc.) it is simply a SLAP into my face as a consumer, NOT being able to use the phone as a GLOBAL DEVICE.
As much as I like the G1 now modded up with Cyanogenmod ROM etc. I cannot honestly recommend the phone to anybody until all functions are available to be used anywhere where I have a cell connection. My work makes me travel across the continents and although I can use my laptop and download software, music, videos and everything everywhere, not being able to do the same with the G1 feels a bit like middle-ages right as we approach 2010.
I am also sick that I cannot find any complaint Email address or even phone number on any of Googles websites (try to find one, and if you can, please let me know). Any question you ask is funnelled into a Google-run user-forum or a help page, and if you are lucky there is a Google-employed Administrator, but the statements they give you are simply the "official" Google messages. There is no help at all
The worst is that they apparently encouraged users to call their mobile operators in countries where paid apps are not available yet (to encourage the mobile operators to sign up for paid apps, so google says...), and some users have done it and the reply of the Mobile Operators was that they have to sign up for expensive 3G-data-plans, which then still didn't give them access to paid apps.
Some (or Google) might ask me:
So how did you get your G1 in China (where it is not legally sold), and why do you expect it to work in China?
Well, I am German and I bought my G1 in Germany - but my work brought me to China and I do not want to leave my 230 EUR phone back home JUST BECAUSE GOOGLE DOESN'T WANT ME TO USE IT THERE.
Regarding the market enabler, it works flawlessly on my 32A magic running CM 4.2.5.
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Regarding the market enabler, it works flawlessly on my 32A magic running CM 4.2.5.
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yes, my point was not that Market Enabler is not working. it is working perfectly as it should.
my point is that google prevents me to sign in to my account, causing problems for syncing, and downloading apps (free and paid).

Market server error - can install free apps, server error to buy paid ones

Hello,
yesterday night I was buying an app on the market (carrom3d Pro), I got the confirmation mail about the transaction but on my Nexus the download stayed stuck at "authorizing...". Since then, if I cancel the download and ask for refund I get a server error, and trying to buy any other paid app would result in the same server error issue.
I can however install free apps, no issue with these.
Is this just me or again a large scale issue ?
BTW, I'm located in Belgium. Access to paid apps using Market Enabler. Whatever the network provider I would fake with Market Enabler (T-Mobile US, O2 Germany, ...) the results are the same.
I also cleaned the market cache (just in case) but didn't help.
Sometimes it takes ten or twelve hours, maybe longer. I contacted a developer directly one and they sent the apk to me.
Had this happen just last week.
I contacted the company thru Google Checkout and asked to cancel the order. I hope this way the application will be removed from my list and I can buy others. For now, with this download staying on "authorising" I just can buy anything else.
Never had any issue with the Market since more than a year.

[SOLVED] ICS breaks method to purchase apps

This is for people who live in countries where paid apps are not available on the Android Market. I used to use Market Enabler to access paid apps and purchase them. After stock ICS I can still see paid apps but I am not able to purchase them, always get hit with "The item you were attempting to purchase could not be found". Also, Market Enabler's auto fake on boot does not work. I have tried clearing data and uninstalling the Market app's updates. No go.
Has anyone found a way to continue purchasing paid apps after the ICS update?
Here is a logcat of the problem. Apologies, first and last bump.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vF6X4L99u7Yug96pZ0-iWLkAZ81SIg2zKiPDd_rQsFs/edit
Update
I used the web market to try and purchase an app, I was prompted to enter new credit card details from a "supported billing country". So I used a virtual US credit card and was able to make the purchase.
My problem now is not spoofing the market. Using Market Access or Market Enabler, I am able to gain access to a US market that shows paid apps and the like. The issue is with purchasing them, Google no longer accepts my cards that are from the UAE, it will only accept cards whose billing address is from a supported country. My other cards appear greyed out both on the web market and on my phone. Can anyone confirm this?
The card that is available is a virtual one I attained through www.usunlocked.com Unfortunately, using this card is not very viable due to the high per-transaction fee of 50 cents. That seems to be an additional 50 cents on every app I purchase! Google's really ****ed me for trying to do things the right way.
Solved : Use Market Access and if Google won't accept your credit card due to the address not being from a "supported billing country", edit the card details in Google Wallet and use a US address.
Thanks to Anomaly for sharing his method.

Kindle Fire 5th Gen & G-Suite issues with Google Play

Howdy,
I am looking for some very specific help here on my device and so will try to provide as much information as I can with regards to it.
The basic issue is that I cannot, for any adequate length of time (more than a few minutes or hours), access the Google Play store on my Kindle Fire 5th Gen after it's initial installation. This is on Fire OS 5.3.2.1.
Where I started:
I have followed the instructions on how to install Google Play on the Kindle Fire without requiring root, which is basically the installation of the four required APKs. I used the script posted here on the forums and it worked well enough, but I've also copied the APKs locally to the device and installed them from there using the Local Storage tab in the Docs app.
The issue:
Within a few minutes or hours of having the Google Play store working, I am, for a second time, prompted to accept the Google Play terms and conditions when I load the store app. Once I accept (which I have no real choice otherwise, it just exits the app if I click Decline), I am now faced with an empty store screen and the message saying that there are no apps I can install as my Administrator has not made any available to me.
As I am my own Administrator, I know this is utter nonsense. This is also only the case on my account, as a dummy account that is not part of my G-Suite account does not have this issue, but alas, also does not have my purchases associated with it so this is not a good permanent choice.
My troubleshooting:
This issue seems to be entirely due to some issue with the fact that I am using a G-Suite account (the previously named Google Apps for Work) and not just your average Google account. The "apparent" issue is that the Google Play Store app seems to think I am using an Advanced management device (more info here, support.google.com/a/answer/6328699).
I have spent a few hours on the phone with G-Suite support on this. There was a point I mistakenly had the Advanced management settings on (EMM is the main culprit setting, the ability for the Administrator to control which apps their users can install, users being myself, my wife, and our son), but I have since, and for over a week now, had it off. They say toggling that takes about 24 hours to propagate, so that should be plenty of time. All I really wanted anyway was the Basic management anyway, i.e., being able to remotely locate, wipe, remove account, etc., on my various devices should they be lost or stolen, but I turned on some settings that weren't worded well enough for me to understand, apparently, and so Advanced it was.
Even with the EMM off, I still receive this error. At this point, I have many times over removed both the device from my G-Suite account as well as turned off mobile management entirely (it currently sits off and has since last week) which should have made it about as equivalent to a standard Google account as you can get, and yet still, the second prompting of the terms and service and the subsequent inability to browse the store after more than a short while after it just worked a bit ago.
Workarounds:
I can uninstall all four Google services apps, re-install them, add a dummy account, and get any free apps I want installed on my Kindle added, then uninstall again, re-install again, and add my account back, and then launch the apps and have them work. But again, this doesn't give me access to my purchased apps or add-ins so is not the best choice of action, nor is having to do this whole process again and try to get the Google Play store to work for those precious few minutes before it conks out. Sometimes it's not even a few minutes, but usually it is, but nevertheless, not the best all-around choice.
My hopeful resolution?:
Since neither I nor G-Suite Support seems to know of a setting that is currently preventing this from working, I am wanting to try some other methods that seem logical to me.
1) Putting the Google Play Store on my wife's profile on my Kindle and have it install any apps for all users and not just her profile. That "all users" part is what I am missing how to do. I know the script mentioned above that installs Google Play does install to all users so I know it's possible. Naturally, I would prefer this done through the store and not through manual APKs but beggars can't be choosers. I just want my auto-updates!
2) Allowing the adding and management of multiple Google accounts under my single profile. Currently, only one Google account can be added using the method of installing the Google Play store above, and if I could add mine and a dummy one, it should also work, in theory, by just swapping back and forth on the Play store. Still limited by purchases that are tied to my account (I believe), but not add-ins. I'd have to see how much trouble that is worth, but it could be better than nothing.
3) Anything else someone here on the forums can think of.
I'm open to questions, suggestions, or whatever at this point. I've now spent two weeks on this and yet still no resolution.
Thanks!
Tough issue, but not entirely unexpected behavior given the interdependencies of Google Play services components and undocumented assumptions of how play services/store will be installed on unrooted systems. Layer on G-suite and you have a snakes pit. My guess is one of more of the installed components is self-updating while the others are not. Probably not going to be able to control that behavior on an unrooted device.
May be less involved (and more successful) grabbing a refurb from Amazon Warehouse which typically arrive with older/rootable firmware.
Did you ever find a solution to this? I've got exactly the same problem now... Information seems light out there.
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Did you ever find a solution to this? I've got exactly the same problem now... Information seems light out there.
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No, I never got a fix for this, and unfortunately I have been relegated to just uninstalling all apps that came direct from APKs or just not from the Amazon Appstore. It sucks and makes my Fire not very worth it, despite the nice price tag.

Question SafetyNet test fails issue

Hi everybody!
I recently received my X90 pro plus, after debloating the phone I wanted to connect the credit card to google wallet, after several fails, googling and looking up at the threads here what could I've been doing wrong I saw on google play that "Device is not certified" after that I've downloaded a SafetyNet Test app and to my suprise the test failed on the "CTS profile match". From what i've read it mostly fails on phones with root, but besides debloat I haven't done anything else. Did anybody had similar issue and managed to fixed it?
You should not be using SafetyNet to determine whether your device meets security requirements. SafetyNet has been replaced by Play Integrity.
Oh, didn't know that, thanks for the info . So I've checked security requirements with Play Integrity API Checker and managed to pass only on basic integrity :/, I assume that I should pass in at least in device and basic integrity, right? But the main question is does it have an impact on successfully adding a card to google wallet (I've updated already a google play store, and play services to the latest version which was recommended on other threads)
Mine also fails safety net. It did so out of the box even before debloating. I don't think debloating make any difference. The problem is that Google Wallet says that my phone isn't "trustworthy" and has been modified, even though it has not. So I cannot use Google Wallet.
Was your phone also from TradingShenzen @OthieDav and is it this CTS Profile Match "fail" that you are getting too? I was going to contact them about it because they said it would 100% pass.
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Mine also fails safety net. It did so out of the box even before debloating. I don't think debloating make any difference. The problem is that Google Wallet says that my phone isn't "trustworthy" and has been modified, even though it has not. So I cannot use Google Wallet.
Was your phone also from TradingShenzen @OthieDav and is it this CTS Profile Match "fail" that you are getting too? I was going to contact them about it because they said it would 100% pass.
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Yes I bought it from TradingShenzen also contacted them about this issue, will post what I got from them
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Yes I bought it from TradingShenzen also contacted them about this issue, will post what I got from them
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Thanks, looking forward to hearing back from you. I'll also post my own follow-up when they reply.
You have mis matches with your google services.
Play services, play store/framework cannot auto update themselves from Play store itself. Vivo crap store has them often outdated. No way around periodically installing them as APK or install APKPure AppStore and make sure vivo store doesn't ever start and downgrade them again or switches apps to their own version for spying and making money from adds (many apps if installed from Vivo store will play out adds via vivo contracts - Or better BBK). Of course bbk also offers some apps they have no contracts with and then it's just a copy from Play store..apps that have widespread use in China no matter where from are mainly affected.
On funtouch this problem doesn't exist, maybe that's the main reason the global versions are so expensive, Vivo expects to make a cut from advertisement, which they can only do on China OS (or mainly)
Could you please explain a little clearer?
I installed APK Pure store. Saw there was an update for Google Play Store.
I updated it.
Seems Google Play Services, and
Google Services Framework are both the latest version.
I ran Integrity Checker:
MEETS_DEVICE_INTEGRITY: FALSE
MEETS_BASIC_INTEGRITY: TRUE
MEETS_STRONG_INTEGRITY: FALSE
SafetyNet still says: CTS Profie match. FALSE
So what would be the next step? I just want Google Wallet to work and I've heard its possible.
@luontokoodaus I've received a reply from Trading, they already got a few complains about safetyNet/integrity failing on the vivo, but they said that the next software update should fix the issue. Later I asked them if I should wait for the update or is there any other potencial fix. After that I just got a return request with slip from them without any answers to my previous question (that is a little weird tbh)
These are my results. It's kinda weird why it fails for some people.
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These are my results. It's kinda weird why it fails for some people.
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The difference I see in my test is that my "Evaluation type" runs as BASIC not HARDWARE_BACKED, dunno why
I also can't add my card to google wallet. I checked here and with Gizop before ordering and seemed to be no issue. If I can't use the phone for payments it's going back to China
Because it's 3 googl services, not two.
Doesn't change the situation that this phone is notoriously unreliable and vivo coming up with new restrictions all the times that brick things working when you removed some spyware. In the past no problem removing the crap store or iqoo.secure, then suddenly you cannot do phone calls or remove certain apps with ADP (that before you could remove) or install apks...
The problems here are just another example for the worst UI and worst software quality on an Android phone I've ever used. Starting from Android froyo...
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Because it's 3 googl services, not two.
Doesn't change the situation that this phone is notoriously unreliable and vivo coming up with new restrictions all the times that brick things working when you removed some spyware. In the past no problem removing the crap store or iqoo.secure, then suddenly you cannot do phone calls or remove certain apps with ADP (that before you could remove) or install apks...
The problems here are just another example for the worst UI and worst software quality on an Android phone I've ever used. Starting from Android froyo...
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We get it. You hate Vivo, China, whatever. Now if only your posts weren't completely useless finger pointing and other negative nonsense. Other people are actually being helpful here, whilst you only seem to find time to talk smack and waste everyone's time who reads your posts.
Post something useful or don't bother. This community owes you nothing and you seem to do nothing but argue with others, get threads locked and otherwise can't even entertain a polite request when asked.
Haskren said:
I also can't add my card to google wallet. I checked here and with Gizop before ordering and seemed to be no issue. If I can't use the phone for payments it's going back to China
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So not only a problem with Trading Shenzhen then. Weird. Well I sure hope the next software update helps.
I've contacted TS for a partial refund seeing as their product page says that they guarantee that you can use banking apps and payment apps like Google Wallet. I asked for a 10% refund.
Looks like the only step at this stage is to wait and hope a software update fixes it (very unlikely)
or
Use another phone for these apps
or
Root the phone entirely and hope that Magisk can keep the SafetyNet/Play Integrity status hidden from other apps.
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We get it. You hate Vivo, China, whatever. Now if only your posts weren't completely useless finger pointing and other negative nonsense. Other people are actually being helpful here, whilst you only seem to find time to talk smack and waste everyone's time who reads your posts.
Post something useful or don't bother. This community owes you nothing and you seem to do nothing but argue with others, get threads locked and otherwise can't even entertain a polite request when asked.
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you're reply looks like a bot from Vivo... I posted something useful - google services framework needs to be updated too - because the v-crapstore version is often outdated. Same as the versions for play services and play store. Only if all three versions are up to date will wallet work. And that means manual updating of these apps quite often.
Oh yeah before I didn't check, apkpure doesn't have services framework - it's available on some other sites however.
Check your framework - that has always been the solution to google wallet problems on Vivo. Just because you cannot read comprehensively not my problem.
And software updates won't fix it as long as Vivo crapstore has outdated versions of many apps - google is just one example but many other apps there are often outdated vs play store.
That has no consequences for most apps - but with google it has. On some apps it's actually more up to date sometimes - Like apps from Tencent (wechat) and maybe some more Chinese apps.
And rooting the phone will likely not be possible in any foreseeable future....
Latest trial version (19.2)
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Issue sorted?
Could be. Find it kind of ironic he posts this after making that idiotic rant thread about how these phones aren't supposed to work with Google when they clearly are more than capable of doing so if the developer gives a damn. Not sure also what is the point of making two OSes when you can just make one which CAN support Google even if you don't immediately ship it with Google apps because no one in China uses it.
I am not in a huge rush to get Google Wallet working, so I'll wait until this update is taken off trial and into the stable branch. If it does work though and I can use Google Wallet afterward, then this will be a 100% perfect buy for me so far.
Same here - it's the last thing I need to work and I can't fault the phone.

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