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Hello all, just wanted to inform all that I've experienced this odd thing with the Z that no one has seemed to have gone through, not sure of course...
But before anything else, as it was a huge selling point for a lot of hiking and travelling me, the water proofing needed to be tested.
I took it out of the box, peeled the plastic protectors off the front and back glasses, threw it in a glass.
- Now my camera has some fog inside, the volume down button has started to work again after half an hour, the loudspeaker is understandably very bad right now.
- Currently trying to get the fog out of the camera and hoping the loudspeaker to go back to normal.
- I will contact Sony tomorrow to discuss the problem and will update this as often as I can.
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- As Akiainavas has pointed out to me, it is actually written in the instructions manual, it is normal for the camera to get foggy between shifts from under water to outside the water, I've tested it work perfectly under water.
- Once dried out, all is good, it just took a lot longer for me compared to other people because of the low room temp I am used to I guess.
- The phone is all good, all working.
* Now on the to-do list: Unlock, Root, Flash, Enable Bravia through the whole user experience!
I heard that this is actually not uncommon. Let it dry. Try again tomorrow.
Indeed, i tested it the day i got and noticed the sound was very low after it was wet. After a half an hour (max 1 hr) sound will come back with normal volume. It's some protection thing i guess
It's just water on the speaker membrane that distorts the sound. Haven't got my phone yet, but try blowing it out. Waiting it out should work as mentioned.
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Now my camera has some fog inside
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Still have that problem?
Maybe its a faulty device with regard to that camera fog.... Can happen to one in thousand devices...
Surely sony will replace it...
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nikhiltanwar said:
Maybe its a faulty device with regard to that camera fog.... Can happen to one in thousand devices...
Surely sony will replace it...
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This brings up a Good question. Has anybody read the warranty?Does it actually Say You are Covered it you purposefully dunk it in a bowl of water?
I mean I understand there have been demonstrations doing this but it Seems like a really silly thing to do with your brand new phone
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This brings up a Good question. Has anybody read the warranty?Does it actually Say You are Covered it you purposefully dunk it in a bowl of water?
I mean I understand there have been demonstrations doing this but it Seems like a really silly thing to do with your brand new phone
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the matter is...
xony xperia Z has the CERTIFICATION, wich isn't something you say you have, is something that has to been tested by a specific organization...
so if is certified i think you have warranty right...
never had any issues with fog in the camera on my xperia acro s, even after having it in my pocket while swimming
the speakers issue is common though, but thats expected, as water is going to get inside the speaker holes no matter what, but all I need to do is just shake the phone and blow where the speakers are and they work perfectly fine after that
Uh...did you even at least try to test out to make sure the phone is working good before dumping it into the water?
Right, it's been 12 hours now, I left it to dry out in a bag full of humid absorbing silicon bags over night.
- Right now the fog inside the camera lens is gone.
- However I think it is out of battery so I plugged into charging.
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the matter is...
xony xperia Z has the CERTIFICATION, wich isn't something you say you have, is something that has to been tested by a specific organization...
so if is certified i think you have warranty right...
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Exactly what I have in mind, I will be contacting Sony about this no matter what, the phone failed the water test out of the box, it is a feature they promote and demonstrate heavily. If they don't cover it in their warranty despite all the promotion and the effort they have put in this phone, then they are just idiots who have absolutely no idea of how one device failing like this can damage the image if they don't back it up with their warranty.
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Uh...did you even at least try to test out to make sure the phone is working good before dumping it into the water?
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Yes, it was all fully working - tested its other features without opening any of the covers to make sure the water test was legit for an hour or so.
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Update: The phone is working, buttons all working, speaker working, camera fog gone and this time it didn't come back as soon as I took it out of the air lock bag.
I am still contacting Sony to get information on what I should do, how I should feel...
I will test it again after my talk with them and on the direction they've given. Mind you, I tested it only in a half full glass of water so what I will do is to try and reproduce the problem.
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Update 2: I have just noticed that the charger is actually 1.5A and you cannot charge the phone from a computer unless you have a non-standard USB port like a 3A one that Gigabyte motherboards have.
Put mine in a vase of water yesterday for 5 mins and all was well, love it
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When submerged, and after that:
- Speaker will have very low volume for a while, until it dries off
- There might be a "fog" on the camera because of humidity and temperature differences
- Hardware buttons might not react perfectly until the water dries off
It's perfectly normal. It's in instruction manual... but whoever reads those these days
Quick copy and paste from the Sony UK website.
"[2] In compliance with IP5/7 and IP5X, Xperia Z is protected against the ingress of dust and is water resistant. Provided that all ports and covers are firmly closed, the phone is (i) protected against low pressure jets of water from all practicable directions in compliance with IP 55; and/or (ii) can be kept under 1 metre of freshwater for up to 30 minutes in compliance with IP 57. The phone is not designed to float or work submerged underwater outside the IP55 or IP57 classification range and should not be exposed to any liquid chemicals. If liquid detection is triggered on the handset or battery, your warranty will be void."
So it's only designed to be water resistant, and if it gets water damage, you're out of luck.
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So it's only designed to be water resistant, and if it gets water damage, you're out of luck.
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The thing is - it won't get damaged unless you leave the covers open. I asked Sony about it and apparently they have some tests to determine that - most likely a water detection that can be used even when the phone is dead. I think they'll probably just close the covers and put it in water to test it again, if waters gets in - it means your covers are flawed and you'll get a replacement. If not - it means you fkd up and you won't get your phone replaced.
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The thing is - it won't get damaged unless you leave the covers open. I asked Sony about it and apparently they have some tests to determine that - most likely a water detection that can be used even when the phone is dead. I think they'll probably just close the covers and put it in water to test it again, if waters gets in - it means your covers are flawed and you'll get a replacement. If not - it means you fkd up and you won't get your phone replaced.
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If that's the case then then that's awesome!
It'd make sense too, as what's the point of going to all the trouble of getting it certified water-resistant and advertising it as one of the main features, and then saying to everyone that gets the slightest bit of water ingress that they're f**ked.
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If that's the case then then that's awesome!
It'd make sense too, as what's the point of going to all the trouble of getting it certified water-resistant and advertising it as one of the main features, and then saying to everyone that gets the slightest bit of water ingress that they're f**ked.
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I trust Sony in this aspect. There are water sensitive tapes under every cover ( those little white things ) so they'll know which one leaked.
Also, remember what happened with Tablet S - it was supposed to be waterproof, but they detected a manufacturing defect that caused some of them to leak. Sony called every customer to Sony Center and provided a replacement of their device - dead or not, warranty or not... that's how you do it.
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Quick copy and paste from the Sony UK website.
"[2] In compliance with IP5/7 and IP5X, Xperia Z is protected against the ingress of dust and is water resistant. Provided that all ports and covers are firmly closed, the phone is (i) protected against low pressure jets of water from all practicable directions in compliance with IP 55; and/or (ii) can be kept under 1 metre of freshwater for up to 30 minutes in compliance with IP 57. The phone is not designed to float or work submerged underwater outside the IP55 or IP57 classification range and should not be exposed to any liquid chemicals. If liquid detection is triggered on the handset or battery, your warranty will be void."
So it's only designed to be water resistant, and if it gets water damage, you're out of luck.
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Akiainavas said:
The thing is - it won't get damaged unless you leave the covers open. I asked Sony about it and apparently they have some tests to determine that - most likely a water detection that can be used even when the phone is dead. I think they'll probably just close the covers and put it in water to test it again, if waters gets in - it means your covers are flawed and you'll get a replacement. If not - it means you fkd up and you won't get your phone replaced.
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I've read it somewhere that the interior also has water resilient coating actually for when tiny amounts of water goes in, I wonder if that's why the camera gets fogged inside because I just don't get how there can be fog when there is no humidity allowed into the interior components as long as you are in the limits of the IP57 certification.
Am I wrong in this? Does water proofing not mean the device not allowing any humidity inside whatsoever? or Is it that the air molecules carrying the humidity inside can still get past the water proofing?
Akiainavas said:
The thing is - it won't get damaged unless you leave the covers open. I asked Sony about it and apparently they have some tests to determine that - most likely a water detection that can be used even when the phone is dead. I think they'll probably just close the covers and put it in water to test it again, if waters gets in - it means your covers are flawed and you'll get a replacement. If not - it means you fkd up and you won't get your phone replaced.
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under flap covers there's a water-sensitive material wich becomes pink when water enters slots i've seen a photo from a review, but he has put his xperia z in many kind of water, beer too (beer has bubbles and carbon dioxide )
CaFFeiNe666 said:
under flap covers there's a water-sensitive material wich becomes pink when water enters slots i've seen a photo from a review, but he has put his xperia z in many kind of water, beer too (beer has bubbles and carbon dioxide )
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I'm much more likely to spill beer over it rather than water in perfect honesty, so thanks for the info there!
Not that I want to spill any beer... it's so sad when I do :crying:
Curious to hear some stories from those of you that have gotten your gear wet. I've done dishes (just splashes) and been in the rain with no problem.
Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Sincerely, With respect I do NOT suggest you make that a habit and other posters try to replicate that. The IP is rated at a mere 55. I suggest you are a very lucky person, in fact very lucky indeed. From reading this forum it is clear from many posts that even moisture caused by sweat has caused some owners problems in misting up the camera lens. Several members who use the Gear in a Gym have actually made their own under strap to prevent moisture touching the back of the Gear.
No confrontation on my part I just want to point out that what you did was maybe more to do with luck than the design capabilities of this watch?
Caution.
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A little rain going into my car thats it!
Absolutely. It was a singular event that actually freaked me out. I have no intentions of duplicating that mistake nor advise anyone to do that just because i was fortunate. I love my gear and am excited to partucipate in all the new developements happening here.
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im a truck driver, im always out in the weather. i have put this watch through so much stress, i even banged it into a trailer!
theres still not a scratch on it and my watch is white, and its not even dirty(yet). very durable watch. i even wash my hands alot and gotten water
into the speaker on the strap. everything still works perfectly. :good:
Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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I will say 'Amen' to that.
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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If you read this forum and other forums many people have not been as lucky as you. The Gear should certainly have been produced and designed with a higher IP rating. Sony has been doing this for some time. It is truly the Achilles tendon of the gear.
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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I have read the comments and apart from some misting on the camera lens water is not a problem, if I get very hot and sweaty mine mists up but it clears very quickly much like my car windscreen and I would not like to lose the camera on the gear or my car windscreen
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Submerged in Saltwater Fish Tank
Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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For some actual visual of what the watch is rated for, this is the water part of an IP55 rating at 23 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-J1QnQIhiA
And here is an IP55 rated radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbDIB2yGuSY
Safe to say short of swimming with it, it should be fine.
How wet have you gotten your gear?
This sounds dirty... really wet! hahaha j/k sowwy.
Last night was the first time my watch got wet. I sweat heaps (and rather easily). Was at arcade and talked into a bit of impromptu dance dance revolution. Danced up a storm and sweated like a waterfall. No sign of moisture inside anywhere. If it continues that way, waterproofing is no longer a worry for me
Sucks that we have to worry about a watch like that...or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
Wore it in the rain to test her out. Even used it while raining (not well, but I was kinda able to swipe back and forth). She still works like a champ with absolutely no problems. Worst case scenario I'll just buy another if this one takes a dive and gut it for parts to tinker with.
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You know, ive seen comments on the moisture in the camera and ive never gotten it even after my accidental shower incident and frequent handwashings.
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Check out this video on Youtube (add to the end of youtube.com) /watch?v=3o0MUGyU2Q4
(I don't have many posts, won't let me post URLs.
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
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Shall we talk facts rather than opinion. See below.
"The International Organization for Standardization issued a standard for water resistant watches which also prohibits the term waterproof to be used with watches, which many countries have adopted. The international standard ISO 2281 Horology – Water-resistant watches defines the water resistance of watches. This standard was introduced in 1990 and only designed for watches intended for ordinary daily use and are resistant to water during exercises such as swimming for a short period. They may be used under conditions where water pressure and temperature vary. However, whether they bear an additional indication of overpressure or not, they are not intended for submarine diving.
The ISO 2281 standard specifies a detailed testing procedure for each mark that defines not only pressures but also test duration, water temperature, and other parameters. Besides this ISO 2859-2 Sampling plans indexed by limiting quality (LQ) for isolated lot inspection and ISO 2859-3 Sampling procedures for inspection by attributes – Part 3: Skip-lot sampling procedures concerning procedures regarding lot sampling testing come into play, since not every single watch has to be tested for ISO 2281 approval.
ISO 2281 water resistance testing of a watch consists of:
Resistance when immersed in water at a depth of 10 cm. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water for 1 hour.
Resistance of operative parts. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water with a force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any) for 10 minutes.
Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature between 18 °C and 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
Resistance to different temperatures. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water at the following temperatures for 5 minutes each, 40 °C, 20 °C and 40 °C again, with the transition between temperatures not to exceed 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to water overpressure. Immersion of the watch in a suitable pressure vessel and subjecting it within 1 minute to the rated pressure for 10 minutes, or to 2 bar in case where no additional indication is given. Then the overpressure is reduced to the ambient pressure within 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to air overpressure. Exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.
No magnetic or shock resistance properties are required.
No negative pressure test is required.
No strap attachment test is required.
No corrosion test is required.
Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 2281 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 2281 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2.
In practice, the survivability of the watch will depend not only on the water depth, but also on the age of the sealing material, past damage, temperature, and additional mechanical stresses."
Further t this please also note the following;
"Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 ATM or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. NOT suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 ATM or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 ATM or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 ATM or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER’S WATCH L M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out.
Manufacturers water resistance classifications are interpretations and are not part of any ISO standard definition."
As you can read for yourself this is not me on some sort of quest to prove any point whatsoever, I don't need to its written for you above.
My aim is to try to prevent people from damaging their watch. Nothing more and nothing less.
From the above quotes you can clearly see that our galaxy gear is not even water resistant by definition and needs care when coming into any contact with water.
Personally speaking, I find this a total pain in the neck and a very large blunder on Samsung's part. This is a wrist watch and should at least be water resistant too 30m or put this way splash proof. Yes, your other daily watch that has written on the back " Water resistant to 30m does NOT mean that the watch can be submerged to a depth of 30m, you cant even shower or bath in it!.
This is one of the biggest complaints with the watch trade and one that causes numerous problems to all watch retailers and horologists. The 'standard' is absurd. See the above codification for yourself.
The other point that needs to be understood is just because one may shower in the Gear, Sauna in the Gear etc and the watch still functions is certainly NOT an indication that no damage was done, the opposite may apply, its often just a question of time and how long the water inside the Gear will take to cause a possible problem.
Those unfortunate owners who have the lens mist up due to water ingress, How many times do you think one can place the watch in rice and dry it out before corrosion starts to make some affect? Sure the watch may work today, for a week maybe even six months but as yet we simply don't have the living experience of what's to come as the device is so new.
Only now are those who abused the Sony Xperia Z mobile phones starting to find their mobiles are not at all 'water proof' and cannot be taken white water rapids, diving, boiled in soup or cooked in chocolate (I jest not go see the youtube clips) etc. .
So I'm HUNTING for a waterproof case for this phone with summer coming...and I can't find any name brand ones...otter box is taking FOREVER to release theirs! I know the phone is itself supposed to be waterproof, but the ear phone hole doesn't seem protected. Looking in there I see metal prongs for the ear plug connectors. Is there supposed to be a cover for it?
I believe the headphone port is self sealing, otherwise the phone wouldn't have the ip67 certification.
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The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
Moved to Q/A.
Audio is just metal touching metal, no need for it to be covered. It is however one reason you can't take this phone in salt water. Fresh water only. I take mine to the beach all the time, nice not to worry about getting splashed or rained on, but definitely want to rinse it with fresh water if it gets any salt water on it at all.
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The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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Remember IP67 certified as far as liquids go is 15cm to 1m (roughly 3ft) and is considered Water Resistant for short periods of time, in order to be Waterproof it must meet IP68 standards which is extended exposure to liquids.
Got it! Thanks all! i wanted to test it in the pool this weekend, but got nervous lol!
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Got it! Thanks all! i wanted to test it in the pool this weekend, but got nervous lol!
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i would caution against "Pool" water in any case as the chlorine content will damage the oleophobic coating on the glass (thisis the coating that helps resist fingerprints and smudges)
EW! So it's good for pond water only? LMAO! Otterbox needs to hurry up and come out with the darn waterproof case!\
So back on topic...there is a case called Griffin Defender series that claims to have waterproofing. I had a griffin on my old s3 and dropped in water plenty of times and it kept water out. Hope I could help. Check them out.
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They're are cases now from lifeproof and otterbox... one of them isn't released yet, but I can't remember which one.
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The lifeproof one is out, the otterbox is not out yet.
Waterproof case? I put mine into a sink full of water 15 minutes after buying it out right. That satisfied me and I just bought a regular case
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Not Waterproof
byte9 said:
The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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i just bought mine and i took it for a test in the pool and took pics and video and i opened to see if water got inside and yes some drops where inside but not in the important area so i dry it close it and it was good until later i try to see the pics and the screen went wild and then the horror screen went from white to black and that was it i try to dry it with hairdryer nothing i came back to live for a sec only to do the same then the rice trick nothing now is all black i can hear the phone respond but no image and im in despair since att told me warranty is void cuz the water indicator is red so im f up. Can someone help me out with some miraculous fix for this problem please i just bought it and im beyond broke. I got isopropyl alcohol if i dunk it without the battery of course will the acohol damage the amoled lcd or the camera or anything? if i dry it well will it come back to life or will the lcd digiticer permanetly dead ? HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE :crying::crying:
Let's see. You knew you could not afford another phone. Yet, you wanted to test it by going swimming?
I don't know about the alcohol, but maybe the phone will come around once it's fully dry.
But regardless, I hope you learned your lesson here. Although these phones and some cases are supposed to be resistant, that doesn't mean we should be taking our phones in showers or going swimming with them around here. Every phone is not built the same, or how it should be, and someone's phone eventually was going to fail.
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HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE :crying::crying:
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A)IP67 cert = Dust proof / Water Resistant in 3ft of water for up to 30min. I'm guessing you went deeper than 3ft. They advertise splashes and accidental sink/toilet drops. It's not an active phone or underwater camera and nobody said or advertised it as such.
I don't wish your phone to be dead. The best thing you can do is NOT power it on and let it sit in rice for 48hrs. Don't be impatient, let it sit. You've continued to power it on shortly after the immersion so I would manage your expectations, It may be done.
Good Luck.
So, I just got this s5 and decided to take the water resistancs to a new level.
I first ended up going to Cedar Point Amusement park, and went to the water park with it. Took a few video's with it on the slides, etc. Then went to the Wavepool , kept in my pock so it was no more then a few feet under water at any time.
Worked great, phone was still working. Just an FYI, if you do use it underwater, your signal strength will die, no cell signal underwater guys, I first thought the phone fried, but then relized, that was the issue, and then in a min, 4G was back! (I was freaked when I realized my pebble told me I was not connected.) Played with my Sphero for a bit.
a week later, I was at a festival doing some shooting, I was invited to the pool, with all the drugged up artists ,.. They all thought I was on every drug known to man because I brought my phone in the pool to take pictures (a few under water ones too!)
So far so good. I will admit that the phone at no time was fully submerged for more then 5 or 10 min at a time. but the phone still works great, and just needs a rince and dry to get the touch screen to work nomaly again.
so far, I'm not afraid!. I got the Samsung wireless back, I know it's got the seal, so that one is next! this week!
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so far, I'm not afraid!.
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To me it's a "just in case feature" lol... "just in case I..."
I left my phone in a bowl of water for an hour the first day I got it and everything is still fine.
Please report back to what finally drowns it lol.
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Please report back to what finally drowns it lol.
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You all have taken playing with your phone to a whole new level. Maybe I can see testing Samsung's numbers, but who in their right mind is going to intentionally search for the time where the phone actually drowns?
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You all have taken playing with your phone to a whole new level. Maybe I can see testing Samsung's numbers, but who in their right mind is going to intentionally search for the time where the phone actually drowns?
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my theory, is if I am going to actualy do long swimming with it, I will put it my waterproof bag, but jumping into the pool for a quick jaunt, playing with my Sphero, or a waterslide where my phone is not UNDER water for more then a few min at a time, I will risk it.
I never keep phones long enough anyways.
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So, I just got this s5 and decided to take the water resistancs to a new level.
I first ended up going to Cedar Point Amusement park, and went to the water park with it. Took a few video's with it on the slides, etc. Then went to the Wavepool , kept in my pock so it was no more then a few feet under water at any time.
Worked great, phone was still working. Just an FYI, if you do use it underwater, your signal strength will die, no cell signal underwater guys, I first thought the phone fried, but then relized, that was the issue, and then in a min, 4G was back! (I was freaked when I realized my pebble told me I was not connected.) Played with my Sphero for a bit.
a week later, I was at a festival doing some shooting, I was invited to the pool, with all the drugged up artists ,.. They all thought I was on every drug known to man because I brought my phone in the pool to take pictures (a few under water ones too!)
So far so good. I will admit that the phone at no time was fully submerged for more then 5 or 10 min at a time. but the phone still works great, and just needs a rince and dry to get the touch screen to work nomaly again.
so far, I'm not afraid!. I got the Samsung wireless back, I know it's got the seal, so that one is next! this week!
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Chlorine will destroy your waterproof capabilities.
Also your speaker will get saturated and sound like crap - eventually the phone will have a weak speaker resulting in popping/crackling sounds. Just FYI...You can take pictures and the phone can get wet but if your doing it everyday of summer, bad things could happen. I think the Active can do it better than the reg S 5, but I wont go swimming with it. Maybe take pictures once in a while in the pool.
? Makes No sense to me but hey i dont have a silver spoon in my mouth. Even if i could i woulnt cause its a waist of good hardware. Maybe everyone should be poor once in thier life and would appreciate things more.
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Chlorine will destroy your waterproof capabilities.
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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It's probably not high enough to break the seal, yes, but your headphone jacks are being exposed to chlorine, as are your speakers. Filtered water at home wouldn't corrode the equipment as fast since... well that's chlorine's job, you're not drinking chlorinated water at home. But yeah, the speakers and headphone jack aren't directly part of the board if I'm correct, instead they are attatched to it (I suck at explaining things, bear with me please) by the looks of it, probably explaining why you can buy the headphone jack and speakers separately as replacement parts instead if the whole board. The reason why the slip is on the charging port is to protect the board, which is in more cases a lot more important than sound equipment. I hope I explained that generally well for no sleep in 36 hours. :laugh:
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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Chlorine, maybe not. Extra pressure against the seals, almost assuredly.
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The only thing i can say with absolute confidence is that if you brick your phone, don't expect much help. You're using the phone way out of the normal guidelines.
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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Good point
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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and some people take the risk and deal with the consequences. I have taken the phone in the pool, and when I am done, I do clean it off, do I plan on doing it on a regular basis, NO, I only did it because I was thinking, I had 30 days to return this phone if it explodes, so I took the risk, in general, If I ever do plan on going to the pool in the future, I have a waterproof bag that I use.
Now the shower, man, is nice to change the song and see whats playing. but I don't submerge it.
Long story short, I was asking for outcomes, I was not asking if anyone was a spoiled brat, had more money then god, did't care if the phone exploded or whatever, those are just troll answers, I was looking for experiences of people willing to take risks, what their device's outcome was, not their financial outcome.
and about chlorine and the seals, that is a legit concern, just like salt in salt water pools. I did not think of that, and this is why i asked.
Water + electricity = busted ****. Common sense. And when the first battery does explode (not 100% on if the battery will do this) from taking into elements they have no business being in I'm sure someone will jump on some lawsuit even though it was there fault cause we all know water and electricity go so well together.
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Water + electricity = busted ****. Common sense. And when the first battery does explode (not 100% on if the battery will do this) from taking into elements they have no business being in I'm sure someone will jump on some lawsuit even though it was there fault cause we all know water and electricity go so well together.
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What? The phone is built to withstand a certain degree of water, hence the iP67 rating, I don't underatand why you are jumping to these astronomically implausible conclusions.
I don't know if you have seen the videos on YouTube but the S5 is highly resistant to water, even more so than the IP67 rating would lead you to believe.
Batteries can explode from various things, sitting too long can cause them to puff up, a direct impact/force can also cause it to explode.
Water+Electricity is bad but telling people their battery will explode if their S5 encounters water is simply doing a disservice to them. There are limits to the S5's water resistance as there are limits to many other things in life, we respect those limits and stay within the designated "safe" boundaries. There is no difference with the S5, respect the limits of the water resistance and continue enjoying the feature.
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What? The phone is built to withstand a certain degree of water, hence the iP67 rating, I don't underatand why you are jumping to these astronomically implausible conclusions.
I don't know if you have seen the videos on YouTube but the S5 is highly resistant to water, even more so than the IP67 rating would lead you to believe.
Batteries can explode from various things, sitting too long can cause them to puff up, a direct impact/force can also cause it to explode.
Water+Electricity is bad but telling people their battery will explode if their S5 encounters water is simply doing a disservice to them. There are limits to the S5's water resistance as there are limits to many other things in life, we respect those limits and stay within the designated "safe" boundaries. There is no difference with the S5, respect the limits of the water resistance and continue enjoying the feature.
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The battery exploding is more or less hypothetical as I said I wasn't a 100% and furthermore like I said water and electricity don't mix. One little flaw in you precious waterproof seals and poof your phones done. I myself have noticed just from charging my phone the USB flap is already loose so no I would not trust submerging my phone in water at any depth. and as for the waterproof rating i would think that applies to things like getting caught in the rain on your phone or dropping it in the toilet and ouickly removing it. Not jumping in a pool or going scuba diving and taking pictures underwater. Purposely Taking your phone into water or any other liquid is just STUPID it's water resistant not watertight or waterproof. Do with your phone what you will I just hate seeing hardware abused even if it is not mine. Sorry if this upsets anyone just my opinion.
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The battery exploding is more or less hypothetical as I said I wasn't a 100% and furthermore like I said water and electricity don't mix. One little flaw in you precious waterproof seals and poof your phones done. I myself have noticed just from charging my phone the USB flap is already loose so no I would not trust submerging my phone in water at any depth. and as for the waterproof rating i would think that applies to things like getting caught in the rain on your phone or dropping it in the toilet and ouickly removing it. Not jumping in a pool or going scuba diving and taking pictures underwater. Lastly this was supposed to be about opinions well here mine. Taking your phone into water or any other liquid is STUPID it's water resistant not watertight or waterproof. Do with your phone what you will I just hate seeing hardware abused even if it is not mine. Sorry if this upsets anyone just my opinion.
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The IP67 rating means Ingress Protection, the S5 in this case is 100% Dust proof as it has the highest value on the scale for dust resistance. The 2nd number in which the S5 has a 7 means water resistant at depths of up to 1m for up to 30 minutes, there is only one level above the S5's rating. This rating is given based on standardized testing so assuming you follow the specified limits and make sure your port covers are sealed, you should be fine taking your device with you in up to 1m of water.
Regarding the loosening of the port cover, that is a major point of concern. My port cover is still very tight fitting but I am have been extremely cautious in making sure it stays at 90° from the opening and doesn't bend in any other direction as to not weaken the flap.
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The IP67 rating means Ingress Protection, the S5 in this case is 100% Dust proof as it has the highest value on the scale for dust resistance. The 2nd number in which the S5 has a 7 means water resistant at depths of up to 1m for up to 30 minutes, there is only one level above the S5's rating. This rating is given based on standardized testing so assuming you follow the specified limits and make sure your port covers are sealed, you should be fine taking your device with you in up to 1m of water.
Regarding the loosening of the port cover, that is a major point of concern. My port cover is still very tight fitting but I am have been extremely cautious in making sure it stays at 90° from the opening and doesn't bend in any other direction as to not weaken the flap.
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Yea the flap is what has me believing it shouldn't be submerged. Say your sitting poolside and drop ur phone in, Yea it's good to have the iP67 rating but just from removing the USB flap to charge i would throw that rating out the window. It's loose
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This week I decided wash my device with tap water and for my surprise I realized a few hours later that my cameras was with water inside... I never let it fell down and I was shocked with the "protection" and even more after reading that Huawei doesn't guarantee protection against water...
So if it really has IP68, what's the point?
Anyone had trouble with water?
Still don't understand why people purposely put their expensive smartphones under water. regardless of the IP68 spec
It's a very sensitive electronic device which may or may not be correctly sealed, keep the IP68 rating for when it rains or when you accidentally get it wet, don't put it under water on purpose...
And why did you only check Huawei's water policy 'after' you put it in water? Why not check these things first?
Plus, how dirty was your phone that you needed to put it under the tap? A damp cloth would have been better no?
I'm fully understanding the last message, and as you I'm not gonna put my phone willingly under water...To clean it... Or anything else!
BUT, in other hand, huawei worked (and marketed communication) to put an ip certification on it and we all paid for it too.... Not 'the only' feature but it's part of the price for that product.
Will anyone say 'ok it's fine' if your water-resistant watch is filled with water after you've washed your hands or done some dishes?
Could be a 10€ ones or 15k€...water-resistant or ip is still the same... Even more with a device like this phone which was launched around 1k€.
Will somebody say 'ok...' too if your brand new jacket which was sold as bullet proof is scratch by a paintball ? ...
Etc etc.
OK : don't look to damage your stuff willingly
Not OK : companies wash their hands so easily...
Hope your device get repaired !
Or put in rice bag for the night ... Old style always relieved
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Did you bought it from an official seller??? Because there are a lot of cheap refurbished that they don't mention this of course.
I had a scare with my p30pro. Walked into a swimming pool with my phone in my swimming shorts. Phone fell out and stayed under water for approx 5mins in under 1m depth. Got the phone out and dried it with a towel. Had phone microphone issues for two days after that - people on a call could not hear me properly, but all issues cleared out after a couple of days, so I'm guessing there was some water stuck in mic holes that had to dry out. Since then, I had no issues so I'm guessing IP68 rating was true in my case
I've used mine in the Mediterranean Sea, no problems so far. Multiple times under water.
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I've used mine in the Mediterranean Sea, no problems so far. Multiple times under water.
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You know what salt water does to electronics right?
Even if the water doesn't cause a problem the salt will corrode the contacts for charger etc
Can I swim with my smartphone?
We certainly wouldn’t recommend swimming with your phone. When the IEC tests a smartphone it’s done under lab conditions, with the handset in standby mode – not in a swimming pool full of various chemicals used to cleanse the water.
The same applies to the ocean. Seawater is full of salt, a mineral device-makers stress isn’t tested when the unit is being put through its paces for an IP rating, so we’d also strongly suggest steering clear of that.
Let’s be clear here: the rating the International Electrotechnical Commission assigns is strictly for fresh water. That means it doesn’t guarantee protection from submersion in other liquids – beer, coffee, salt water and soda, to name but a few.
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You know what salt water does to electronics right?
Even if the water doesn't cause a problem the salt will corrode the contacts for charger etc
Can I swim with my smartphone?
We certainly wouldn’t recommend swimming with your phone. When the IEC tests a smartphone it’s done under lab conditions, with the handset in standby mode – not in a swimming pool full of various chemicals used to cleanse the water.
The same applies to the ocean. Seawater is full of salt, a mineral device-makers stress isn’t tested when the unit is being put through its paces for an IP rating, so we’d also strongly suggest steering clear of that.
Let’s be clear here: the rating the International Electrotechnical Commission assigns is strictly for fresh water. That means it doesn’t guarantee protection from submersion in other liquids – beer, coffee, salt water and soda, to name but a few.
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Yes, Did plug my port on the bottom first and give it 'normal' water bath afterwards.
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Yes, Did plug my port on the bottom first and give it 'normal' water bath afterwards.
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You will destroy your phone, hope you are rich
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You will destroy your phone, hope you are rich
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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No, putting a smartphone into the sea will not be fine, but carry on
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This week I decided wash my device with tap water and for my surprise I realized a few hours later that my cameras was with water inside... I never let it fell down and I was shocked with the "protection" and even more after reading that Huawei doesn't guarantee protection against water...
So if it really has IP68, what's the point?
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never had any issue like this and i do clean my mobile like this quite often even cleaned it with soap on many occasions.
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never had any issue like this and i do clean my mobile like this quite often even cleaned it with soap on many occasions.
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Then you've been lucky so far, that's all, every time you put it in the sea it starts to eat away at the metal contacts, sooner or later they will fail, then you will be here on XDA asking why and how to fix it
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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There is a dedicated underwater case for P30 pro and underwater photo mode.
Much cheaper than new phone IMO, if you're into underwater photos.
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Then you've been lucky so far, that's all, every time you put it in the sea it starts to eat away at the metal contacts, sooner or later they will fail, then you will be here on XDA asking why and how to fix it
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I guess that you confused users, this guy said that he ony washed the device, no put in the sea (like mine)
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I guess that you confused users, this guy said that he ony washed the device, no put in the sea (like mine)
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Doesn't matter really, purposely putting your phone under any water isn't the best idea, they do not come advertising that you can do that, there is no picture of the phone under the water taking photos to show you what you can do with it, it is literally just a rating to say it is water 'resistant' and even then, only at a certain depth for a certain length of time, under lab conditions, so in other words, Not waterproof at all as it will eventually leak in, that alone tells me some devices will be better sealed than others, which has already been shown by people complaining water got in the camera and display
Your phone your choice, just don't come making threads on XDA asking how to fix it when it all goes wrong
Yes it has IP68, I tried putting it on a pool and under a waterfall. Just don't let your speaker grill and charging port submerged in the water for a long period
Wait i thought the p30 pro was waterproof???
Phone is IP68 rated. It can survive underwater. IP68 is great if you are under a rain shower or if the phone falls accidentally in water. Well, I use it in the shower and i wash it under tap water. Never had any problem. Remember that, if the membrane of mic gets wet, the quality of your voice will be worse.
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Wait i thought the p30 pro was waterproof???
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IP68 is splash proof only, not really a waterproof, even Samsung's S & Note series