Last weekend I went on a bit of a trip visiting 2 cities and was expecting to use the N5 as GPS (navigating trough the cities), camera and media player. I am sorry to report that it failed miserably..
First was the camera : all was well until i got the "cannot connect to camera" dialog and had to reset the phone missing the moment to be captured. If it were a one time event I could have over looked it but it happened about 5 times in 3 days. I didn't use HDR or other camera apps, just the stock camera taking normal photos/videos.
Secondly, (related to the camera) the mm-qcamera daemon drained my battery like crazy so i was always charging the phone and took a survival attitude towards it (2g, no data, no wifi, minimum brightness) negating it's smartphone capabilities as much as possible.
Lastly, and most infuriating, the GPS just didn't work. I had an internet connection (chrome and facebook worked just fine) but it just wouldn't load the map nevermind driving/walking directions.
To top all this, my friends Galaxy Ysomething with gingerbread performed flawlessly all of the above. Needless to say that after this none of the group will ever consider a N5 as their phone.
Sorry for the vent/rant but it can't be all roses..
Wow... All of those points to a defective unit.
Trust me, this phone is better than your friends smartphone
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the camera hogging battery has been confirmed by google and will be fixed in the next update
i have no issues with GPS or the camera and I take about 5-20 pictures every day. maybe you can try using a custom rom or maybe you have a defective unit. i would contact google for a return if you are able to
Just flash a custom rom. Bet all your issues are gone.
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Not sure I experienced any issues.. but mind you, once I opened the box, turned it on and rooted the phone and installed a custom rom... lol...
Stock Pure Google experience.. never tried it.. :cyclops:
considering i have never experienced the camera issue once since me and my wife have owned the phone, his experience is a isolated one.
1 of 2 things happened to cause his issue:
1) hardware failure, which is beyond anyone's control
2) he modded his phone and broke something, which can be fixed by going back to stock (or should be anyways)
I would return it in a heartbeat! That is unacceptable for any device and those are each large enough issues to cause concern. I have been an android fan since I first held one some years ago. Every effort towards modding in the past has been to attain a pure stock, nexus-like experience. I purchased to N5 to stop chasing that dragon and honestly...it has been somewhat disappointing. Constant drain from com.chrome.sanbox, camera daemon running constantly and horrible audio. I have rooted and flashed away many things, but always at the expense of stability or another feature that I favored. Google needs to get their sh1t together. This is a great device, no doubt, but there are too many little problems that en up adding to a major PIA considering that this phone comes straight from the folks who makes the OS that we all love. I understand your frustrations OP, that is unacceptable. I would return it, like others have stated. That's too crap going wrong on a singular trip to be considered just a glitch. I love my N5, but it is ridiculous to overlook glaring flaws simply because it's a Nexus.
GPS should work very great though. I drain maybe 10 percent in an hour with it running, and it locks in less than a second for me...
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considering i have never experienced the camera issue once since me and my wife have owned the phone, his experience is a isolated one.
1 of 2 things happened to cause his issue:
1) hardware failure, which is beyond anyone's control
2) he modded his phone and broke something, which can be fixed by going back to stock (or should be anyways)
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What a coincidence that his camera, battery drain and GPS issue occur all around the same time. You maybe right about the software issue but I was replying with the assumption that the OP is running stock..so my bad. However, I've got a bad GPS reception, it barely connects and I've tried on both stock and custom kernels. I can't RMA or service it through warranty since I got it from abroad.
well, I've had my Nexus 5 for a few months, and I use it constantly. The camera has never given me a single issue, and neither has the GPS. I use the GPS quite frequently, as I recently moved to a new province, and don't know the area.
I've also used my Nexus 5 while traveling(between Alberta, Canada and Nova Scotia, Canada with many stopovers in between) and not one issue.
I can't speak for stock, as I flashed CM11 the moment I got my phone, but I use what's listed in my signature. I highly recommend those. A few times, there's been issues with the Chaos kernel, but not for several months now.
I'd definitely say give custom roms a try. But if that doesn't fix it, revert to stock and return the phone right away if possible.
I found the phone simply excellent when I was traveling around London, GPS camera and battery all good.
Sounds like you have a faulty phone.
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Do you have Skype installed?
I also had the exact same problems with battery and camera on my tablet and phone untill I uninstalled Skype.
Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660470
Never had problems with gps though.
Unable to RMA it since a friend of a friend bought it for me from Germany (I am from Romania). I just uninstalled Skype and will keep an eye on the camera. For the GPS problem I have no clue since not even network location is working in maps... I have weather apps and they figure my location just fine.
I am running stock unlocked with twrp. I will try out some roms eventually..
Will my local lg vendor be able to do something about a defective phone ?
Edit : back home (i was out during my last reply) maps is working perfectly (even without GPS, after data clear and force stop, wifi off). It's like the phone is shy of new places...
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Also clear cache of camera app.
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Do you have Skype installed?
I also had the exact same problems with battery and camera on my tablet and phone untill I uninstalled Skype.
Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660470
Never had problems with gps though.
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This should be were greenify helps. Any apps that suck battery, mess up other apps or abuse the memory can be hibernated, and only woken when we want to use them.
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Yes, I have Skype. But its sleeping like a baby unless I use it.
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The last time I saw the "cannot connect to camera" message was on my Xperia Play, which had a faulty connection with the front facing camera. I've never once seen it on my Nexus 5. That one definitely points to a faulty unit.
Camera battery drain, apparently this is a known issue, although I personally haven't experienced any issues.
GPS issues...I don't ever 100% rely on any GPS device..way too much room for error. That said, I used the GPS on my N5 last week to pinpoint my location on the map to help me find the house I was delivering to. Worked as smoothly as it could. Maps was open, I turned on GPS, boom, the blue dot told me where I was, good times were had by all.
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Writing off an entire type of phone based on one bad experience with a phone he didn't even try to replace to see if the problems were commonplace is ridiculous. Most Nexus phones don't act like this and to act like they all do or they all will is ridiculous. "Needless to say, none of us will ever try a Nexus 5" is being overly dramatic.
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I agree. While I understand their frustrations, it is pretty dumb to say that no one in the group will ever buy a Nexus 5 because of one phone had issues. Umm, ok? Does any phone from any manufacturer have a 100% fault free track record? I'll save you the google, the answer is no.
I also have n5 since it was released, rooted and on stock with latest updates since 3/18/2014. I had note 2 before and I gotta say I miss it. For 2 main reasons, multi function and battery. I think I will sell this with next note release. Yes you get latest updates but when you are rooted I'd rather not have the latest updates.
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The battery drain comes from a very real bug concerning how Skype interfaces with your device's camera. Google has even come out and said it's a major problem (after doing their own internal stress test and finding it to be a real bug). They are likely to fix it, but here is more information for you about it: http://phandroid.com/2014/03/04/and...ogle-fix-arriving-in-a-future-android-update/
Don't let anyone fool you into thinking that specific part (the GPS and Camera malfunction, I cannot speak to) is just your device. People with stock Android and people on custom ROMs have also been experiencing it. I run Carbon and it still happens to me. That's why I keep Skype frozen or Greenified (a better solution) unless I need it. Of course, that's a pretty bad workaround, especially if you pay for Skype calling or need to be online for messaging.
I hope it works out for you. Also, I can't quite claim to know for sure, but the warranty is not tied to the original purchaser, it's tied to the serial number on the device. My brother purchased two Nexus 5s (to ensure we both got one) and before I could do my first RMA, I had to ask them to swap the Google account over to my Google account.
That was it. I don't know how the warranty system works in Romania or Germany, but don't rule it out yet!
EDIT: To follow up with the warranty process, it should not matter what country you are currently in, the warranty will follow the laws set down by the country of purchase. If you do need to do an RMA, they will ship you a new one (overnight if needed) and ask that you ship them back the old phone within x number of days or else you'll be charged full retail.
If you have questions about this, please don't hesitate to ask. Everyone deserves to have a great phone.
Will look into RMA-ing it since i have a first batch (ordered 2 weeks after launch) and some complain of poor audio on their side.. The problem is that i cannot access the device playstore from my country..
Any ideas are appreciated.
The camera issue could be caused by insufficient ram at the time of operation. U sound like u wanted to do a lot of things with it on ur trip, it could've possibly ran out of ram at the time and thus couldn't load the camera. I had the exact same problem with my galaxy s3, clearing apps with an app manager fixed the problem (I used system panel). However the n5 handles ram extremely well, never have I once been Over 1.2gb used and I use it vigorously with no ram or task manager app. Kit Kat is just awesome.
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My captivate has been working like a champ for better than two years now, aside from possible phoneco problems and the smershingly infuriating wth speaker problem. I was pretty conservative with the apps I installed for most of that time, but have been less so more recently. I did program a simple app to see if I could, and was just starting to think about trying rooting it with the freedom to renew the contract and get a better fone too, but recently it has been rebooting repeatedly, giving erroneous battery condition info, and having problems connecting to the voice and data nets. So my question is going to be do I need a new handset or is it the battery needing replacement and I can use the money to get a laptop that I need instead.
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My first suspicion towards the battery was the erroneous battery condition info, specifically that it was showing a battery level of 0% but able to work. The phone did seem to boot more normally instead of rebooting to airplane mode with a cheaper Chinese replacement battery, but then starting having the same rebooting/radio problems. Before booting the replacement battery, I noticed the original battery oddly bulged where the replacement was not. After booting the replacement battery, the replacement battery bulged oddly in a similar manner. I don't know to handle bulging batteries for heat or not. I have 2 more unbulging replacement batteries from an ebay auction package, but I was not happy with their charge life when I tried using one of them before.
Now the phone seems to work ok on usb power.
Some of the recently non-conservative apps installed recently were AnkiDroid, Gunsmith (didn't work and I uninstalled it), Sudoku something, Mind Games, and mind calculator. Some of the other apps that were champing it up along with the phone no problem 100% were AskPhil, US Army Survival Guide, Brain Genius Deluxe, Google Goggles and Sky, jjReader, a ton of music related apps, and the update to Android2.1. I was planning to update to 2.2 soon, but the update to 2.1 was a little bit of a hassle so I didn't take the time.
So the questions really:
should I be able to get away with uninstalling my recent app installs and installing 2.2 or should I start planning a weekend for a more drastic reset and rooting procedure? I am somewhat versed in unix style systems, but prefer windows, and am not very knowledgeable about kernels of either, will I need more than a weekend to figure out the root and wipe out?
can batteries go bad from a bad app or does the phone maybe have a more serious problem?
Have people been noticing 4G as usefully faster, I use maybe 1Gb of data a month, should I go for a new phone and thaw my 897 later?
What do people think about the programmability and functionality of the newer windows phones? App programming for Android is maybe twice as messy a my experience in .net desktop frameworks, should I figure to get a windows phone?
That is a lot, thanks for reading and any answers or suggestions you have.
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- Your problem is not app related. Try replacing battery with original Samsung one, don't rely on cheap Chinese batteries.
- Check your charger, may be going bad and bugging phone's charging circuit.
- Install CyanogenMod CM10.1 Stable Android 4.2.2 and see if the problem persists.
- IMHO, no future in Windows phone OS, they hold <3% of mobile phones market.
- A new faster phone is always better, but first try to resurrect Captivate, it's still not a bad phone.
somewhat reassuring
Thanks, I guess it would be better that the apps can't fry the battery, although that means my case is more something hardware malfunction. The Chinese replacement battery is working ok but doesn't hold a charge as long as the original.
Do you know if the batteries have a built in voltage sensor or if the phone was possibly doing the error voltage sensing?
I don't necessarily think to trust the AT&T+Samsung/Samsung approved android build more than one in widespread use from the internet, besides the consideration that they would want to keep my business. Is the CyanogenMod you mention more or less observation intrusive than the stock? Is it worth the risk for any specific 4.2.2 features?
- Yes, batteries have their own charging protection circuit with voltage control
- Android 4.2.2 is better in any way - speed, compatibility and features
- No risk with CM ROM, it is very stable and you can always go back to stock in case you don't like CM
I have same problems ever since I don't use stock kernel .. I replace the battery but problem persist even with a brand new battery.. I blame the kernels and almost every 4.2 kernel out there is based on semaphore .. The problem is killing slowly the new batt
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I have same problems ever since I don't use stock kernel .. I replace the battery but problem persist even with a brand new battery.. I blame the kernels and almost every 4.2 kernel out there is based on semaphore .. The problem is killing slowly the new batt
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Millions of Captivate phones use Semaphore based kernel with no battery issues. The problem you guys have is hardware related.
Yup.. I think so.. And Will not get fix by buying new battery , so if you have this kind of problem trash your cappy
gado45 said:
Yup.. I think so.. And Will not get fix by buying new battery , so if you have this kind of problem trash your cappy
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Or get in touch with Josh at mobiletechvideos.com to see if he can fix it.
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Hey, all, thanks so much so far, very helpful. Here is my situation latests. I have updated the A.OS from the official stock 2.2 to the os 2.3, which basically confirmed that there is something wrong wrong with the handset. It consistently freezes and reboots in under an hour of operation, but seemingly without patterned trigger. So I have to get a new handset, and it will not be a samsung or at&t unless a salesperson at the store can give me a replacement not a captivate.
My next questions are, if I can keep the malfunctioning captivate, is there a somewhat human understandable log of operations somewhere on the phone that might give a clue as to the activity that is loop locking the phone? I seem to recall something about extensive key-wise logging system a while back, am I totally out of the ball park to try something like that? At my current knowledge of mobile phoneology, the other thing I can think to try is a factory reset/wipe, then maybe the firmware loaders available here.
anecdotally, one of the Chinese batteries got 'crunchy' after it got bulgy, definitely not an endorsement for that brand
I am considering a Motorola or an htc next, options and opinions tentively welcome thanks again
Verizon contract is up in a couple weeks so I'm jumping to T-Mobile (costs less) and getting the Nexus 6. I just have a few questions.
Are there any weird quirks with the phone? Anything I won't find out by playing with the phone in store for 10 minutes? Is the phone as powerful as the specs say it is?
I saw some of the older battery life charts in the other thread and they aren't terrible. Is battery life still decent? I'm looking for 4-5+ hours of screen-on time ideally.
Does the "quick charger" that comes with it work well?
Tl;dr Do you recommend the phone?
It's a loaded post, which is why a lot of views, but nary a reply.
However ....
Your title to me is better than jumping on a N6, which could be disastrous to the phone.
If you have looked over the threads, you'll get varying opinions, and mostly IMO it depends on two things:
What they had/came from
What they expect out of the N6.
I will only speak for myself; I came from a VZ GNex I hung onto for 3 years - anything I may have gone to would be a worthy HW upgrade, however I want to tweak my phone when I'm ready to, and that means a Nexus.
I love the phone, it was a bit of a letdown, as I was already running 5.0 on my GNex, so the experience was to a larger, faster smoother phone than what I had. Other than that, I'm loving every minute of having it, plain and simple.
I have one other person who transitioned to one, and he loves it as well.
I'm not going to tell you to get it, you have to go play with it and decide for yourself.
To your specific questions:
quirks - no more so than any other phone, I haven't found any yet myself - most who post I think have to do with not knowing what they set in Lollipop, I've already had it for a bit, so I'm used to it.
Yup, its fast and powerful, whether or not you decide to go unencrypted is up to you, which goes to what you had and what you expect - are you going to unlock root, mod? You can enjoy this phone for quite a bit of time before maybe even needing a reason to go mod it.
Personally, I haven't yet, nor have a lot of members here (check the what rom are you running on VZ thread) because again, I haven't (other than wanting to change my softkeys) had a good reason (to me) to invest the time to do it.
I'm sure it will happen, but not right now. right now I'm just enjoying the hell out of having it.
Batt time is always subjective, whether or not we care to admit it. No two devices are going to run the same, have the same app load outs, some have different memory it appears, and some may actually (gasp) have a bad batt on arrival.
Mine has ran terrific (remember again - what I had and what I expect), and the QC runs great to recharge if need be. I can say that I love not worrying about the batt right now on it daily, but that's for me and my usage.
Battery is fine and its quick. The fast charger works well. I'm not really a fan of them but its what it comes with. I came from a m8 which was a nice device but I like this one better.
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Tl;dr Do you recommend the phone?
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My wife and I jumped from Sprint to T-Mobile, handing off our Evo 4G's when the Nexus 6 was released, and wouldn't look back. The Nexus 6 has been nothing short of awesome... the camera, speed, screen, everything - is awesome. We keep ours in thick iBlason "Armorbox" cases, and still enjoy our QI charging (I'm unsure how QI isn't a requirement in modern phones these days!). A lot of friends complained about the size, but those that got it anyway, ended up "getting over it" and now won't go back to the smaller screens, heh! It still fits nicely in my (male) jean pockets -- with the large case -- but you'd be hard-pressed to get it safely in female pockets (sorry ladies... you're not allowed to put stuff in the pockets!).
Quirks: one big thing jumped out at me, but isn't a big deal for most. The phone does have built-in RGB LEDs that sit underneath the top speaker, yet, they chose to block access to this functionality. I guess they reused the underlying board but didn't want the LEDs, but nonetheless, they are invaluable to me: I enjoy knowing if I have something waiting for me *without* having to look at the screen - whether while in bed, sitting on the desk, riding the bike, etc.! The plus, you can get at these LEDs if you're rooted. So... if that's possibly desirable to you, I'd recommend unlocking the phone as soon as you get it, so you can avoid the data wipe down the road. The Lightflow app can handle them quite well (though I believe it requires the "Pro" version, for a couple bucks). ...and as of now, the LEDs are "on or off" - no flashing... but hey, I'll take what I can get!
Oh, and not really related to the phone itself, but a Google-Nexus 6 quirk -- quite annoying at the time, for me -- Google's "My Tracks" app was broken for awhile (unable to acquire the GPS signal). There are a gazillion alternatives out there, but I'd been a long-time daily user of the app, and Google broke it!...for months. It was disappointing that they would break core app functionality on their *current* flagship device, for their own app, and choose to ignore it for such a long time. I think the 5.1 update fixed whatever problem they had, but that was a pet peeve.. On the plus side, I've enjoyed the feature-rich alternatives that I was forced to explore, ha!
We haven't messed with de-crypting ourselves, as the phones are super-duper-fast as-is, but we love them. These are our introduction to the Nexus world, and we love the fact that they no-bars-hold permit unlocking, and that the updates are, of course, front line.
Tl;dr I highly recommend the phone! Phone size is the only recurring complaint among friends.
Thank you everyone for the replies. Yes, battery life is subjective ...so long as most of the reviews say the battery is good enough, that's all I care about. First-hand reviews from users are always the best because I know everyone isn't just trying to sell me a phone . As far as the LEDs being unusable when not rooted, that isn't a big deal for me. My current phone (Razr Maxx HD, xt926 verizon) has the LEDs and fantastic battery life through various mods, but is simply not cutting it anymore for what I need. I've never heard of the My Tracks app, so I guess it's a good thing since I didn't know it was broken lol.
This will be my first Nexus phone... I have the Nexus 7 (2012) tablet that is currently running CM12 nightlies, so I'm familiar with the "Nexus experience" and Lollipop already. I like it quite a bit, but it did take a little getting used to. I was very much planning on unlocking and rooting the N6 immediately, but I'll play with it a bit and enjoy the stock experience first.
@vormund Do you like T-Mobile, now that you switched from Sprint?
@RW-1 Can you explain the encryption you're talking about a little more? This is the first I've heard of it.
Again, thanks everyone for the replies. I'm pretty much sold on the phone at this point.
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Thank you everyone for the replies. Yes, battery life is subjective ...so long as most of the reviews say the battery is good enough, that's all I care about. First-hand reviews from users are always the best because I know everyone isn't just trying to sell me a phone . As far as the LEDs being unusable when not rooted, that isn't a big deal for me. My current phone (Razr Maxx HD, xt926 verizon) has the LEDs and fantastic battery life through various mods, but is simply not cutting it anymore for what I need. I've never heard of the My Tracks app, so I guess it's a good thing since I didn't know it was broken lol.
This will be my first Nexus phone... I have the Nexus 7 (2012) tablet that is currently running CM12 nightlies, so I'm familiar with the "Nexus experience" and Lollipop already. I like it quite a bit, but it did take a little getting used to. I was very much planning on unlocking and rooting the N6 immediately, but I'll play with it a bit and enjoy the stock experience first.
@vormund Do you like T-Mobile, now that you switched from Sprint?
@RW-1 Can you explain the encryption you're talking about a little more? This is the first I've heard of it.
Again, thanks everyone for the replies. I'm pretty much sold on the phone at this point.
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I am currently using MeanPop 2.11 on my Nexus 6 and it has a blinking LED light for notifications, a blinking red light for while your phone is charging and a green light for when the device is fully charged. I had the phone a couple of hours tops before I rooted it, so I can't really provide an opinion on the device out of the box. My brother is using a non-rooted Nexus 6 and he loves it as well. We both came from the Note Edge, but enjoy the Nexus 6 more than any device we have used up to this point. Out of the box, the device is encrypted (which some people have stated that their performance suffered compared to being unencrypted). You can easily unlock the phone and decrypt it. There is a solid guide for this in the development section. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me or ask them here and I'll assist where I can.
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I am currently using MeanPop 2.11 on my Nexus 6 and it has a blinking LED light for notifications, a blinking red light for while your phone is charging and a green light for when the device is fully charged. I had the phone a couple of hours tops before I rooted it, so I can't really provide an opinion on the device out of the box. My brother is using a non-rooted Nexus 6 and he loves it as well. We both came from the Note Edge, but enjoy the Nexus 6 more than any device we have used up to this point. Out of the box, the device is encrypted (which some people have stated that their performance suffered compared to being unencrypted). You can easily unlock the phone and decrypt it. There is a solid guide for this in the development section. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me or ask them here and I'll assist where I can.
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That solves the LED issue. I will probably decrypt the device since I don't know why I would need it encrypted. Thank you. I will definitely message you with any questions, but I won't have the phone until closer to the end of April (24th or so), so it will be a bit yet. I'm just glad the phone is shaping up to be as great as I am expecting it to be.
Out of curiosity, what are the benefits of leaving the phone encrypted?
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@vormund Do you like T-Mobile, now that you switched from Sprint?
@RW-1 Can you explain the encryption you're talking about a little more? This is the first I've heard of it..
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T-Mobile has been equal-to-or-better than Sprint in Tucson, AZ... their customer service is dreadful (store reps are absolutely useless), but if you're persistent, you usually come out alright - which I'm happy to do with the difference in cost (+$10 to join my sister's plan versus $30+ for Sprint's split... among the other (contract, discount, etc.) considerations! Data is hit-or-miss on the outskirts of the city, but so is Sprint (and ATT)...Verizon seems to have solid service out there, though...(then again, you pay for it!)...
Data speeds are almost always slower when compared to Verizon (a friend with Verizon did some speed tests with me...we're both usually LTE, but he'd consistently get 3-4x faster speeds...this probably varies greatly by locale and their networks), but it's sufficient for me. If you're one to watch Netflix or download a ton, it'll probably be quite the downgrade.. but me - I'm on wireless for any big data usage, so network-wise, I'm just mapping, a little music streaming, geo tracking and such.
Encryption: For the extra paranoid or those with ultra-sensitive information on their phones, perhaps?
I suspect it would make things a little more difficult for law enforcement, too... depending on backdoors and such? Actually, yeah, that looks to be the case!
After seeing the speed comparisons, I'd definitely switch over now, even though the phone is fast-as-can-be as it is, ha. One of these days maybe... but for now, it's a few more minutes in a already-crazy day.
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I am currently using MeanPop 2.11 on my Nexus 6 and it has a blinking LED light for notifications...
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Thanks great to know, thanks for the info! +1 for a custom ROM. I think the reason Lightflow can't do it directly - with rooted stock - as it'd have to keep the phone awake. There well may be ways around that by now... I just wish they'd enable direct access without (there's just no good reason to take away a hardware feature... disabled by default, but come on! ).
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T-Mobile has been equal-to-or-better than Sprint in Tucson, AZ... their customer service is dreadful (store reps are absolutely useless), but if you're persistent, you usually come out alright - which I'm happy to do with the difference in cost (+$10 to join my sister's plan versus $30+ for Sprint's split... among the other (contract, discount, etc.) considerations! Data is hit-or-miss on the outskirts of the city, but so is Sprint (and ATT)...Verizon seems to have solid service out there, though...(then again, you pay for it!)...
Data speeds are almost always slower when compared to Verizon (a friend with Verizon did some speed tests with me...we're both usually LTE, but he'd consistently get 3-4x faster speeds...this probably varies greatly by locale and their networks), but it's sufficient for me. If you're one to watch Netflix or download a ton, it'll probably be quite the downgrade.. but me - I'm on wireless for any big data usage, so network-wise, I'm just mapping, a little music streaming, geo tracking and such.
Encryption: For the extra paranoid or those with ultra-sensitive information on their phones, perhaps?
I suspect it would make things a little more difficult for law enforcement, too... depending on backdoors and such? Actually, yeah, that looks to be the case!
After seeing the speed comparisons, I'd definitely switch over now, even though the phone is fast-as-can-be as it is, ha. One of these days maybe... but for now, it's a few more minutes in a already-crazy day.
Thanks great to know, thanks for the info! +1 for a custom ROM. I think the reason Lightflow can't do it directly - with rooted stock - as it'd have to keep the phone awake. There well may be ways around that by now... I just wish they'd enable direct access without (there's just no good reason to take away a hardware feature... disabled by default, but come on! ).
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A wakelock is triggered with the flashing LED even in the custom Rom (burns 1-2% per hour that the LED is flashing). It's definitely worth having though. The ROM is solid and I haven't had a single issue with it yet.
After reading the benchmarking for encryption vs decryption, I'm definitely decrypting the phone when I get it. I'm not overly worried about the LEDs (does seem weird though that it's not like all of the other android phones I've had, where they just work, regardless of ROM). I'm in the middle of the East Coast where (according to coverage maps) 4G is more available, so I'll definitely run some speed tests and see how T-mobile's data speeds stack up on this side of the country. I really just need a fast browser with good, stable internet speeds. I won't complain if it's faster than 3G.
So I just received my new nexus 6 in the mail from a deal I got on amazon, I spent some time getting it unlocked and rooted and was just about to go down to AT&T to get a new sim card for it when I tested out the camera app. Now I know the camera in this phone isn't supposed to be great but everyone said its a great deal better than the nexus 5. The problem is mine wont focus at ALL. I cant figure out what is wrong, I didn't flash any custom roms yet nor have I downloaded any special apps. I just cant get it to focus at any distance on pictures. Does anyone know anything that could help?
There's something wrong with the ois module. It's hardware and you should get a replacement.
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There's something wrong with the ois module. It's hardware and you should get a replacement.
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crap. you've got to be kidding me.
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So I just received my new nexus 6 in the mail from a deal I got on amazon, I spent some time getting it unlocked and rooted and was just about to go down to AT&T to get a new sim card for it when I tested out the camera app. Now I know the camera in this phone isn't supposed to be great but everyone said its a great deal better than the nexus 5. The problem is mine wont focus at ALL. I cant figure out what is wrong, I didn't flash any custom roms yet nor have I downloaded any special apps. I just cant get it to focus at any distance on pictures. Does anyone know anything that could help?
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I have just developed an out of focus problem with the rear camera on my Nexus 6. I consider my Nexus 6 the BEST CAMERA I EVER HAD!!! I have tried everything - clearing cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing app, booting in safe mode, etc.. I searched for a manual focus camera app and finally found one in Google play to see if I could get the camera to focus manually. I finally found AZ Camera. This third party camera app showed me that I had only very limited ability to focus and only in the Macro range - like probably less than a tenth of an inch. I have come to believe that something mechanical in the lens mechanism is to blame. My phone was manufactured by Motorola which has given me very good service in the past. As much as I hate being without this phone, I will send it to them to have it fixed. The low cost of a replacement camera (you can find them for about $20) was tempting and I am quite capable of following the YouTube instructions to get the job done, but, I am also quite capable of screwing up by messing with micro parts, adhesives, and the miriad of connections and screws. I would rather that someone who is totally familiar with the device and does this kind of thing everyday for a living do it.
I will come back and post the results.
UPDATE: The problem went away, thankfully, all by itself. Not so good news, as I cannot offer a solution, nor do I know how to prevent it from ever happening again. I did spill coffee near my device but did not think it got wet. Perhaps it did get a drop inside and later dried out. For now, I am just so very thankful that I have my beautiful friend back!!!
I took this phone a step further and switched to purenexus 7.1.1 with December updates and only installed the mini gapps. It almost looks like the official google camera slows this beast down to a crawl...
I'm curious if anyone is considering moving to the V30? The better screen and newer processor does intrigue me.
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Absolutely! Dumping the g6 as soon as I can. I just hope that they fix the issues that the g6 has before releasing it.
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Absolutely! Dumping the g6 as soon as I can. I just hope that they fix the issues that the g6 has before releasing it.
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1. Well the first major issue is that I can't get this phone to connect to a 5ghz network, I know others can but for some reason my phone cannot (see screenshot). it finds them, but "disabled" them when I try to connected (yes I am using the right password to connect). The 2.4 connects, but I get random drops in connection all of the time at differing intervals.
2. I get dropped calls all of the time, even when I am in an area with full service and sometimes when I am on a call I can hear the other people fine, but they can't hear me at all. I had to disable VoLTE because the calls 'sounded' good but everything was digitized and half of the time everything was scrambled and unable to understand them.
3. Camera - I am still not quite sure why many are comparing this camera to the Galaxy S8 or Iphone. The pictures that I take with this phone are abysmal. The night photos are grainy and the day photos look great on this screen, but as soon as I look at them with a larger screen they are unfocused and unclear. I get it, I can switch to manual mode and mess around with the settings to make the pictures "phenomenal" as I have been told, but that takes time, and by the time that I have the right settings for a good picture, my wife's S8 could have taken 10 pictures that look so much better than this camera can take. (yes I have wiped the lens off, it is clean and I am using the LG camera program).
4. Battery: I had this phone since may, and I am lucky to get 12 hours on a charge (from 100% to 20%) with light duty usage. I know that is subjective and is affected by what programs that you use and how much you use the phone throughout the day, but on the Galaxy S6 Plus that I had, after a year I was still getting 18-24 hours on similar usage with the battery.
I know that I keep referring back to Samsung Phones for my examples, but that is the comparison that I have to this phone. I have used Sammy phones for the past 4 years and, personally, I wanted to switch to LG to get off of the Sammy phones because I am not a Samsung fanboy. They have their issues and those issues were big enough to cause me to switch to LG for this phone.
I have taken the phone back to the store and, of course, everything 'magically' works when I am there, so they won't touch it or replace it. Thus, I am dropping this phone as soon as I humanly can.
Thanks and I hope that you don't have the same issues that I have, as it seems people either love or hate this phone and unfortunately I hate it.
Brandon
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1. Well the first major issue is that I can't get this phone to connect to a 5ghz network, I know others can but for some reason my phone cannot (see screenshot). it finds them, but "disabled" them when I try to connected (yes I am using the right password to connect). The 2.4 connects, but I get random drops in connection all of the time at differing intervals.
2. I get dropped calls all of the time, even when I am in an area with full service and sometimes when I am on a call I can hear the other people fine, but they can't hear me at all. I had to disable VoLTE because the calls 'sounded' good but everything was digitized and half of the time everything was scrambled and unable to understand them.
3. Camera - I am still not quite sure why many are comparing this camera to the Galaxy S8 or Iphone. The pictures that I take with this phone are abysmal. The night photos are grainy and the day photos look great on this screen, but as soon as I look at them with a larger screen they are unfocused and unclear. I get it, I can switch to manual mode and mess around with the settings to make the pictures "phenomenal" as I have been told, but that takes time, and by the time that I have the right settings for a good picture, my wife's S8 could have taken 10 pictures that look so much better than this camera can take. (yes I have wiped the lens off, it is clean and I am using the LG camera program).
4. Battery: I had this phone since may, and I am lucky to get 12 hours on a charge (from 100% to 20%) with light duty usage. I know that is subjective and is affected by what programs that you use and how much you use the phone throughout the day, but on the Galaxy S6 Plus that I had, after a year I was still getting 18-24 hours on similar usage with the battery.
I know that I keep referring back to Samsung Phones for my examples, but that is the comparison that I have to this phone. I have used Sammy phones for the past 4 years and, personally, I wanted to switch to LG to get off of the Sammy phones because I am not a Samsung fanboy. They have their issues and those issues were big enough to cause me to switch to LG for this phone.
I have taken the phone back to the store and, of course, everything 'magically' works when I am there, so they won't touch it or replace it. Thus, I am dropping this phone as soon as I humanly can.
Thanks and I hope that you don't have the same issues that I have, as it seems people either love or hate this phone and unfortunately I hate it.
Brandon
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Wow, that's crazy. I don't have any issues like that with mine.
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I've had mine replaced twice for dropping calls, so bad that the radio icons would literally disappear and reappear, dropping the call or WiFi.
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I was thinking about ordering a G6 today, but after reading about the V30 think that it may be the way to go. A lot of what made me reconsider was in this forum, and how much the G6 is restricted by TMo. I have a rooted LG G4 which has been fine after being fixed for the bootloop problem. I've just been bitter about having to put lineage on it.
Yes! I'm planning on returning one of my G6's via JUMP! and upgrading to a v30. Probably within the next month. I'm waiting for a good promotion and a few paychecks. But definitely getting one to use side by side with my paid off G6 & LineageOS G4.
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I'm just curious (new to LG - except for my Nexus 5)...
What makes you assume the V30 would be better than the G6?
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I'm just curious (new to LG - except for my Nexus 5)...
What makes you assume the V30 would be better than the G6?
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I second this question. It'll probably be even more locked down than the G6, if thats possible.
I also ask the same question (despite wanting to dump the g6), to me it is the assumption that the fixed the problems that plagued the G6. Or it is just because i don't like the g6 enough that I hope that phone is better in 'any' way at this point.
I find that my G6 tends to lag a lot. I'm afraid the V30 will also since it has the same 4GB of memory.
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I find that my G6 tends to lag a lot. I'm afraid the V30 will also since it has the same 4GB of memory.
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I saw that as well. I also saw some reviews that despite the phone being very well made, the screen is junk? Anyone see or hear the same issue?
Not a chance in hell.
Worst phone experience I've had in years.
Camera glass cracked from what I can only conclude is expansion and not enough tolerance in the design to have a water resistant phone. I'm not alone in this issue by any means, LG refused to acknowledge it, instead screwing customers over for overpriced repairs. I appreciate that some users are rough with their devices and likely caused the damage but I baby my phones and this was not user caused in my case and no doubt many others.
Removing the ability to access root is a deal breaker for me. It's not that the phone isn't nice to use, and I don't need a bunch of niche apps.
It's quite simply that being locked down is IMO a deliberate move between TMobile and LG to limit any version upgrades that lengthen the life of a device and cannibalizes their 'jump' programs and phone purchases in general. This is evidenced by the fact that it's still on the very base 7.0 version of Android Nougat (no interest in giving customers the important Google incremental updates).
Oreo having been out for months, I doubt this phone will see it.
I tend to keep phone's longer than a year, my previous Nexus 5 was nearly 4 years old when I got the G6, and had I kept it, would be running Oreo right now instead of Nougat!
Fool me once shame on you..... Fool me twice shame on me. Not gonna happen.
Buying a pixel outright and chopping phone insurance and the jump plan costs from my bill.
YMMV - but you did ask for user opinions! That means the good and the bad.
I wanted the V30, and was waiting to get one but needed to add a line in late august for one of my kids so I got a pair of G6's for $500 on a bogo. Honestly, this might be the best phone I've had to date. I get great battery life, the camera is great, and the performance is great. I disable everything I can that I don't use and its been fine. Plenty of storage for me.
So with all that said, I just don't see there being enough of an upgrade in the V30. The quad dac will not do much for me because I stream my music from spotify. While the camera may be an upgrade, I'm not sure its $550 better after I use my jump. Screen is a little bigger and I think the minor gains in battery life will be negligible. Plus, the screen issues I'm hearing about on both the V30 and Pixel XL 2 have me thinking I'm just fine staying on the G6 with its LCD screen for a few more months.
Bottom line, I don't think its a huge upgrade for me especially when I factor in the cost. I'll be Jump eligible by next spring, May use it on the G7 or wait for the V40.
I was excited for the V30, but I read the LED screen is not great. Some say its good, others says it's terrible. Everyone agrees it's not as good as Samsung's LED screens. I own several Samsung LED devices, so I'll probably notice the difference. Maybe the later batches of the V30 (2018 build dates) will be better. The later batches of the G5 and G6 fixed some of the imperfections of the first batches.
The M20P is a great phone in many ways but I'm throwing in the towel. At this point I really wish I had held onto my P20P.
I can't trust this phone as a daily driver because of intermittent issues where phone calls go straight into voicemail without the phone ever ringing. It's not like I'm missing the calls because multiple people have reported that when they called it went straight to voicemail with no ringing.
There was some theorizing in a separate thread that the issue might be due to a compatibility issue with the T-Mobile network here in the United States (where the M20P isn't officially sold or supported) but I have found owners in other countries complaining about the same problem .
I've tried numerous fixes from experimenting with the APN and network settings, turning off raise to wake and voice answering settings, using performance mode, using Shortcut Maker to disable the hidden Wi-Fi calls menu, turning off power optomization for all apps, giving call related apps unlimited data access, disabling Power Genie with ADB--and every time it seems like the problem might be fixed it eventually happens again.
I previously owned both the M10P and P20P and never ran across the issue on either phone. I'm not sure if this is happening because of MIUI 9 or the way Huawei is implementing Android Pie or if it is only specific to this model but as much as I like the M20P I can't use it as my daily driver if I can't trust it to ring every time I receive a call.
I'm not a fan of Samsung phones, One Plus or Google Pixels so I'm looking at probably getting a Xiaomi MI 9 and relegating this to the back up phone status currently occupied by my Mix 2S.
Maybe the problem will get fixed in the 9.1 update but I can't keep missing calls.
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The M20P is a great phone in many ways but I'm throwing in the towel. At this point I really wish I had held onto my P20P.
I can't trust this phone as a daily driver because of intermittent issues where phone calls go straight into voicemail without the phone ever ringing. It's not like I'm missing the calls because multiple people have reported that when they called it went straight to voicemail with no ringing.
There was some theorizing in a separate thread that the issue might be due to a compatibility issue with the T-Mobile network here in the United States (where the M20P isn't officially sold or supported) but I have found owners in other countries complaining about the same problem .
I've tried numerous fixes from experimenting with the APN and network settings, turning off raise to wake and voice answering settings, using performance mode, using Shortcut Maker to disable the hidden Wi-Fi calls menu, turning off power optomization for all apps, giving call related apps unlimited data access, disabling Power Genie with ADB--and every time it seems like the problem might be fixed it eventually happens again.
I previously owned both the M10P and P20P and never ran across the issue on either phone. I'm not sure if this is happening because of MIUI 9 or the way Huawei is implementing Android Pie or if it is only specific to this model but as much as I like the M20P I can't use it as my daily driver if I can't trust it to ring every time I receive a call.
I'm not a fan of Samsung phones, One Plus or Google Pixels so I'm looking at probably getting a Xiaomi MI 9 and relegating this to the back up phone status currently occupied by my Mix 2S.
Maybe the problem will get fixed in the 9.1 update but I can't keep missing calls.
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I do also Miss calls. And I can't get Google voice to work, and use it for voicemail. So sometimes I don't even get notification of new voicemail too. Same here, T-Mobile US. I'm thinking of trading up, but really waiting for the upcoming 5g phones.
For me, it's not a deal breaker. But an inconvenience. Might trade my son-in-law for his 6t.
I hate to do it. Because everything about the performance is great. I love the camera...... Ugh.
Sorry to hear about your troubles.
Afaik, this has never happened to me or anyone I know with the M20P. But we also weren't affected by the infamous iPhone Death Grip here in Sweden, probably because our mobile networks are decently stable.
No issues here on Rogers in Canada. Sorry to hear that.
That's also a deal breaker for me. If it can't make and receive phone calls, she's gotta go.
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No issues here on Rogers in Canada. Sorry to hear that.
That's also a deal breaker for me. If it can't make and receive phone calls, she's gotta go.
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Must be related to the network not the phone...either the band it's on in your area, or the communication with the tower.
While most of us in countries where the phone is sold have problems with notifications (EMUI 9.1....I hope that will solve them...) I NEVER missed a call. And my provider (Videotron) has agreements with 3 more for coverage, so I jump a lot between bands and carriers when I travel.
Considering you have no recourse in US, I would just give up and get something more mainstream. 6T might be good idea.
I can make phone calls and 95% of the time I receive them fine. But the other 5% is driving me crazy ?.
The other day I had to call Amazon customer service The website said the call was connected but my phone never rang. I canceled the call and clicked for them to call me back and the same thing happened twice more-the Amazon website said the call was currently connected but my phone never rang, there's nothing in the call history and no voicemail notification.
I reboot my phone and there's suddenly 3 missed calls and a voice mail notification and when I click for Amazon to call me again the phone rings immediately.
I hadn't missed a call for weeks before that.
Maybe I shouldn't have screwed around with manually flashing updates. It was never a problem with the M10P or P20P but since the updates for this phone aren't locked to the specific hardware version it's not the same as before and the phone always shows up as uncertified which never happened on the other phones.
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Sorry to hear about your troubles.
Afaik, this has never happened to me or anyone I know with the M20P. But we also weren't affected by the infamous iPhone Death Grip here in Sweden, probably because our mobile networks are decently stable.
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or maybe we didn't held the phone wrong
You should try a factory reset as a last resort first
what firmware version are you on? M2p here in the states and have had zero problems here
I was on one of the versions with the April security patch. I did a factory reset and e-recovery to the latest approved version for my model which is 210 with the March security patch but it didn't make any difference. I haven't had any calls yet to miss but I couldn't get text messages to set up my Amazon and Chase apps until after rebooting the phone which is a different symptom of the same issue. I was sending and receiving texts earlier this morning with no issues. I had to reboot about 4 hours later.
I have the LYA-L09 version from the UK. I don't think It should make a difference but maybe the international or Canadian versions would work better with T-Mobile in the US. Band support isn't an issue but Huawei did something new with this phone where the custom partition (which contains carrier and region specific software) is separate from the rest of the firmware which is why the same firmware versions can be manually flashed across all non-Chinese models.
The new custom partition might be causing issues with missed calls and notifications that some people like me are experiencing.
On earlier Huawei phones removing specific apps from battery optimization was enough to ensure that notifications from those apps were delivered quickly but a really common complaint with many M20P owners is that doing that no longer works. Some people don't get any notifications from certain apps unless the display is on and others need to reboot their phones when they suspect they have missed notifications--especially from SMS.
I didn't come across this missing calls issue but there is a bunch of other annoyances that putting me off this phone. To start with, it disappointed me straight away from day one due to simple, unexpected reason - inability to unlocked it at first-second-third attempt with in-screen fingerprint sensor. It was like a sobering slap to the face. Believe me or not but this fancy feature was one of the buying point. Seriously, that fingerprint reader seems works only at the time of first set up . Next day during the phone normal use with clean screen with no screen protector the most common scenario - unlocked with face recognition after 4 failed fingerprint attempt. Seriously, the first "date" with this beautiful phone was ruined straight away!! Further - more "minor" issues like tons of accidental screenshots in my gallery due to improper buttons position, inferior sound from the speakers (coming from Pixel 3) - acceptable at max volume only for me, useless AOD, inability to wake up the phone with double tap, no notifications issue (due to too long (!) operator name as I figured out later), no Google Feed out-of-the-box for my region, poor tactile engine (still can't feel that it's even here compared to iPhones or Pixel 3), camera inconsistency (too many out of focus, blurry shots, bad selfies, poor low light video).... Basically the only things forced to keep me this phone are great battery life, versatile camera, cool unique back design. I understand that there is no perfect phone for sure BUT there are far too many negative bullet points for this one considering the price I paid for it. Frankly, it is certainly not a over $1000 phone at all. If I was aware of all above-mentioned issues, I would't pay more than $500 for it. Sure I have got some quite stunning shots from it BUT everything else must be up for the price as well! So I gave up and put it on sale as well. Sorry Huawei, try harder next time.
Boo hoo.
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I didn't come across this missing calls issue but there is a bunch of other annoyances that putting me off this phone. To start with, it disappointed me straight away from day one due to simple, unexpected reason - inability to unlocked it at first-second-third attempt with in-screen fingerprint sensor. It was like a sobering slap to the face. Believe me or not but this fancy feature was one of the buying point. Seriously, that fingerprint reader seems works only at the time of first set up . Next day during the phone normal use with clean screen with no screen protector the most common scenario - unlocked with face recognition after 4 failed fingerprint attempt. Seriously, the first "date" with this beautiful phone was ruined straight away!! Further - more "minor" issues like tons of accidental screenshots in my gallery due to improper buttons position, inferior sound from the speakers (coming from Pixel 3) - acceptable at max volume only for me, useless AOD, inability to wake up the phone with double tap, no notifications issue (due to too long (!) operator name as I figured out later), no Google Feed out-of-the-box for my region, poor tactile engine (still can't feel that it's even here compared to iPhones or Pixel 3), camera inconsistency (too many out of focus, blurry shots, bad selfies, poor low light video).... Basically the only things forced to keep me this phone are great battery life, versatile camera, cool unique back design. I understand that there is no perfect phone for sure BUT there are far too many negative bullet points for this one considering the price I paid for it. Frankly, it is certainly not a over $1000 phone at all. If I was aware of all above-mentioned issues, I would't pay more than $500 for it. Sure I have got some quite stunning shots from it BUT everything else must be up for the price as well! So I gave up and put it on sale as well. Sorry Huawei, try harder next time.
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I've never had any of those problems although the AOD display does seem to bug some people who are used to what Samsung or Apple does with it.
I think the Pixels are among the worst phones on the market. They easily list for twice what they are worth, have worst build quality than a $200 Xiaomi phone, run too hot, suffer serious hardware failure within 2 years in staggering numbers and every generation of Pixel devices to date has had significant hardware and software problems that the tech press ignores.
I really like this phone a lot. The build quality is fantastic. It takes great pictures and everything runs smooth and fast without the phone ever running hot (unlike Google phones which have been running in performance mode by default since the Nexus 5X). Battery life is great. My LG display (you know--the one that was supposedly defective?) is gorgeous.
But I can't deal with the missed calls anymore. I'm sure it could be fixed with a software update but after 6 months I'm not confident that a fix is ever going to come.
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I've never had any of those problems although the AOD display does seem to bug some people who are used to what Samsung or Apple does with it.
I think the Pixels are among the worst phones on the market. They easily list for twice what they are worth, have worst build quality than a $200 Xiaomi phone, run too hot, suffer serious hardware failure within 2 years in staggering numbers and every generation of Pixel devices to date has had significant hardware and software problems that the tech press ignores.
I really like this phone a lot. The build quality is fantastic. It takes great pictures and everything runs smooth and fast without the phone ever running hot (unlike Google phones which have been running in performance mode by default since the Nexus 5X). Battery life is great. My LG display (you know--the one that was supposedly defective?) is gorgeous.
But I can't deal with the missed calls anymore. I'm sure it could be fixed with a software update but after 6 months I'm not confident that a fix is ever going to come.
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
So.... I too have abandoned the phone. I love it. It was a beast with battery and camera and speed. But.... missing calls has cost me a vacation that my timeshare had called and I didn't get the trade for the time. And timeshares can be finnickey to get a trade for the area/time you want.
Anyway. I ended up trading to my son-in-law for the oneplus 6t since its sold by Tmobile and should have any missed calls. He got a hell of a phone for the trade. Oh well.....
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
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I have owned Nexus and Pixel phones. I definitely know what I am talking about. The Nexus devices had much more premium build quality than the Pixel line and the phones were much cheaper.
Just go to the Official Google Pixel Support site and read the posts from the many owners experiencing serious issues with their phones. That's pretty much the only place people can find accurate information about Pixel phones because the tech press holds Google to a much lower standard than it does Samsung, Apple, Huawei, or Xiaomi. The only company that gets a similar treatment to Google is One Plus. The official One Plus support site has so many reports of issues everyday that after a couple hours all of the posts that had been visible are completely buried under the tidal wave of new posts.
The difference is that the majority of issues One Plus owners report are software related because the coding on One Plus phones is inept and the majority of reported Pixel problems are hardware related.
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So.... I too have abandoned the phone. I love it. It was a beast with battery and camera and speed. But.... missing calls has cost me a vacation that my timeshare had called and I didn't get the trade for the time. And timeshares can be finnickey to get a trade for the area/time you want.
Anyway. I ended up trading to my son-in-law for the oneplus 6t since its sold by Tmobile and should have any missed calls. He got a hell of a phone for the trade. Oh well.....
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I am not a fan of One Plus but I'm sure you won't have an issue with missed calls. If you have a T-Mobile One Plus instead of an unlocked one you get far less frequent updates because T-Mobile is trying not to release Oxygen updates that introduce new bugs. I don't think T-Mobile knew what they were getting into before they decided to carry those phones.
I got my MI 9. It's not as nice as the M20P obviously but it's a good value which is what Xiaomi is known for. I'm also getting all my calls, texts and notifications with zero problems and VoLTE works.
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
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Looks to me you're the only one who doesn't know what he's talking about...plus you might wanna try to be more considerate when you post here. No need for personal baseless attacks.
Pixel 3 is an outdated phone with an excellent camera app and timely updates. That's ALL. Had one, ditched it for the Mate 20 pro (in before the personal attack that "you don't know what you're talking about").
I can also ask you how did you get your Mate 20 pro to become "hot as hell after just a half an hour driving with GPS app running". I took 4-5 hour trips with GPS on, the only slight warm area was the wireless charging one, as the phone sat in a holder with wireless charging.
Not sure what point you are trying to prove (if any) but you haven't convinced anyone.
Maybe this will:
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/04/29/doesnt-sound-like-google-sold-very-many-pixel-3-phones/
have you tried using a fresh new sim card?