Every GALAXY launch we go through the same BS. No 32GB option available, and this time no GOLD or BLUE color options available. Why? Why? Why? Is it really that difficult to include all the colors with 32GB? Now those of us who want to get the phone on launch are once again screwed just like we were last year and the year before on 32gb of storage. Of course I take all this back if the unlocked variant offered AT&T LTE support; which it doesn't by the way. Why am I not surprised? The 16gb S5 will have about 10GB of user storage.
I am so fed up with this type of BS. AT&T is, unfortunately, the only carrier that works well in my area. T-Mobile is spotty with lots of EDGE. If only their service was on lower spectrum, I'd be all over them.
Anyone else feeling just as frustrated with this mess we endure every year.
I totally agree, but the ATT S4 did come with a 32Gb. I am using it right now. I wish Sammy would up them all to 32Gb and an option for 64Gb. 16Gb is too small with how large touchwiz is with each revision. No way I will go back to only 16Gb on board.
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16GB is never an issue with me, regardless of the device. It's more than enough for my needs, considering I have maybe 2-4 very small games on my devices at any given time. What does piss me off is the lack of all the colors. I wanted the blue model, but of course, that's not possible...for whatever idiotic reason. I just said screw it and preordered the black. I guess I'll just buy a different back cover down the road.
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16GB is never an issue with me, regardless of the device. It's more than enough for my needs, considering I have maybe 2-4 very small games on my devices at any given time. What does piss me off is the lack of all the colors. I wanted the blue model, but of course, that's not possible...for whatever idiotic reason. I just said screw it and preordered the black. I guess I'll just buy a different back cover down the road.
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16GB may not be an issue for everyone, but why can't they just give the customer the choice at pre-launch? I have no problem paying more for storage. Why does Apple sell every color and size up front from day 1? That's what I don't get. Since they are dying so much to be like Apple, then why can't they at least do that?
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16GB may not be an issue for everyone, but why can't they just give the customer the choice at pre-launch? I have no problem paying more for storage. Why does Apple sell every color and size up front from day 1? That's what I don't get. Since they are dying so much to be like Apple, then why can't they at least do that?
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Agreed -- it really doesn't make any sense at all. All model options should be available from day 1, no exceptions. That's one thing Apple does an excellent job at. They announce their devices and the same day you can start preordering any color/storage model, assuming the stock is available, of course. It pissed me off even more, because we had to wait this long after the S5 announcement to just preorder it...and then we don't have all the options available? Very annoying.
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Agreed -- it really doesn't make any sense at all. All model options should be available from day 1, no exceptions. That's one thing Apple does an excellent job at. They announce their devices and the same day you can start preordering any color/storage model, assuming the stock is available, of course. It pissed me off even more, because we had to wait this long after the S5 announcement to just preorder it...and then we don't have all the options available? Very annoying.
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+1, Samsung never have full availability of their models. Either they announce a color but don't have it or announce a 64 GB version and don't have it.
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barondebxl said:
+1, Samsung never have full availability of their models. Either they announce a color but don't have it or announce a 64 GB version and don't have it.
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Yeah I know. Its ridiculous. I don't know why I had such high hopes for them to turn around and launch the S5 differently than before.
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I am so fed up with this type of BS. AT&T is, unfortunately, the only carrier that works well in my area. T-Mobile is spotty with lots of EDGE. If only their service was on lower spectrum, I'd be all over them.
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I know it doesnt help right now, but i recall reading on Engadget recently that T-Mobile is claiming that all of their 2g areas will be upgraded to 4g by 2015 or early in 2015. That should open up more options for you and countless others.
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I know it doesnt help right now, but i recall reading on Engadget recently that T-Mobile is claiming that all of their 2g areas will be upgraded to 4g by 2015 or early in 2015. That should open up more options for you and countless others.
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That will help, but a major problem T-Mobile has it that their frequencies don't reach as far as AT&T's and therefore you get EDGE. T-Mobile has all their towers upgraded in my area to HSPA+ and some with LTE, but since those signals don't travel as far, it always turns into EDGE. They need to shut EDGE down entirely and use only H+.
New TouchWiz is just over 8 gigs of space, I've been told the 16gb version will have about 7 gigs of usable storage. I'm waiting for the 32gb version to come to AT&BS I guess a little later this year.
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This is why I am thinking of passing on s5 and going to HTC one m8. I checked out the phone at AT&T and very impressed with it plus it comes in 32gb at AT&T as default. Tired of Samsung Bs. They will release a 32gb version on AT&T 6 months down the road or never.
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This is why I am thinking of passing on s5 and going to HTC one m8. I checked out the phone at AT&T and very impressed with it plus it comes in 32gb at AT&T as default. Tired of Samsung Bs. They will release a 32gb version on AT&T 6 months down the road or never.
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Yea. With the S4 I think they announced the 32GB version about 2 weeks after the 16GB went on sale; ultimately screwing anyone who wanted one because their return policy was up.
I actually ordered the 16GB because I never have come close to filling the internal storage I was just pissed its not an option. I just really wanted the blue. **** like that pisses me off. I am sure if AT&T gets the 32GB it will only come in black. I wanted white this time.
Yeah AT&T waited 2 weeks on purpose so you couldn't return the 16gb version. I bet they will pull something similar now. Hoping that somebody is desperate to open another line or pay full price to get it.
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Same thing with last year. 64GB M7 cost the same as a 16GB S4.
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Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFi whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.
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Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFI whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.
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Well said. Personally, I have never used a Nexus device. I have heard bad things about LG's nexus. But I guess it wouldn't be fair of me to judge that device without actually using it. Samsung's TW provides me with exactly what I need. I love the look and a lot of the features. Like you, and as I have already stated, I will keep my pre-order intact and wait until I actually get the device to see for myself if the feature has been disabled or not.
If they do, in fact disable download booster, I probably will go with the international variant. No carrier branding whatsoever. I believe its the same case as in the past. NO LTE, but 21mbps HSPA+ which is fine for my needs. I think loosing LTE may be worth getting an untouched/non-carrier branded Samsung phone. NO limitations, no nothing. Having the ability to have a custom recovery and kernels would be a deal breaker alone. We already know the AT&T S5 will have a locked down bootloader.
One thing I am looking forward to with the AT&T S5 is its support for carrier aggregation. I live in the Chicago land area (one of AT&T's first LTE-A markets). So I am dying to see how much faster my speeds will be.
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Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFI whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.
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Well said. Unlocked devices in the USA pretty much only fully support AT&T frequencies. Sure they may be unlocked, but use any other carrier and you'll end up losing out on one to numerous frequencies.
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Well said. Unlocked devices in the USA pretty much only fully support AT&T frequencies. Sure they may be unlocked, but use any other carrier and you'll end up losing out on one to numerous frequencies.
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I can't speak for all unlocked devices, but every Nexus device with a cellular radio fully supports all bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile. In addition, the Nexus 5 fully supports all Sprint CDMA and LTE bands, and the 2013 N7 has full Verizon LTE support.
On the GPE side, you're right. The Moto G and both generations of the HTC One lack support for HSPA+ on the AWS/1700 MHz band, which T-Mobile requires for any area not refarmed to use HSPA+ on the PCS/1900 MHz band.
That said, all GPEs fully support T-Mobile LTE.
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I can't speak for all unlocked devices, but every Nexus device with a cellular radio fully supports all bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile. In addition, the Nexus 5 fully supports all Sprint CDMA and LTE bands, and the 2013 N7 has full Verizon LTE support.
On the GPE side, you're right. The Moto G and both generations of the HTC One lack support for HSPA+ on the AWS/1700 MHz band, which T-Mobile requires for any area not refarmed to use HSPA+ on the PCS/1900 MHz band.
That said, all GPEs fully support T-Mobile LTE.
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Yeah that's true I forgot about T-Mobile. Nexus 5 did it right with good carrier support. GPE supporting T-Mobile and AT&T is nice, but nowhere near ideal. Case in point the M8 unlocked and Dev editions only support AT&T. Also, I think the unlocked iPhones support all the US carriers (99% sure).
Point is, to my knowledge, unlocked device support in the USA is like this (greatest adoption to least):
1. AT&T
2. T-Mobile
3. Sprint (very little support)
4. Verizon (pretty much nothing)
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i'm confused, why doesn't everyone that want bigger memory space to just spend 35 dollars on amazon and get a 64GB micro card? that'd what i did so now when i get my AT&T S5, I'll have a total of 70 GBs free space....
i think you guys are crying way too much about this 16GB deal.
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I currently have AT&T but need to switch to Verizon since AT&T has no coverage in an area I travel to frequently. What's the likelihood of the Note coming to Verizon?
With the recent announcement of the LTE Korean version the likelihood is much better, no? If not I may have to settle for the Nexus, which is not something I really want to do...
I highly doubt it.
Thanks for the response. Why do you doubt it?
He's probably just being sarcastic, I imagine this question gets asked a fair bit. I only chanced on this thread from a google search for any new news about the Note coming to the US on Verizon.
...And the latest is still "maybe"...Maybe now that they've released a Note with LTE, in South Korea, that a US release is forthcoming. Nothing is confirmed though and neither Samsung or Verizon are saying anything further.
I was incredibly close myself to getting the GSM/HSPA version of the Note, figuring on getting whatever the cheapest service from AT&T is...But AT&T just started "turning on" their LTE service in NYC area and the Note isn't capable of using it.
...And so I too am waiting to see what the story is/will-be with Verizon.
Plus it looks like the LTE 7003 will only have the single core cpu and older gpu... I wonder why?
Verizon or TMobile or bust...
I mean that seriously, I will use AT&T over my cold dead rotting corpse...
There is NOTHING you could do besides give me everything (phone/plan/yearsofservice) FREE to get me to use AT&T... been there, done that, have to suffer with them for home phone/dsl (and no, no-one else services my area, not even SAT), dont plan on making it any worse then I have to...
I mean, hell, they yet again managed to get ranked WORST in customer satisfaction for the last 2 years solid... and more even before that...
At this point, I am willing to suffer with no 3G on TMo then not... WiFi FTW!
I have mine at Tmobile. I get 15kb down on edge. Its fine for gps and stuff, big stuff on wifi tho but i pay 50 bucks only.
I have had a great experience with AT&T. I am currently using a iPad SIM in my Note. I get 6 down and 1.5 up, which is no better then my iPhone 4 got...but it's more then adequate for surfing. Google Voice for text, GroovIP for voice. $30 a month(grandfather iPad Unlimited) Though $25 a month for 2 gigs is still reasonable I think.
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I have mine at Tmobile. I get 15kb down on edge. Its fine for gps and stuff, big stuff on wifi tho but i pay 50 bucks only.
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thats not bad actually, and if you use google maps/navigation you can use the labs "preload" and not require all that much anyway!...
the scale keeps tipping towards GNote-ON-TMo... Voice+EDGE wont be so bad since I use WiFi 95% of the time anyway...
Oh and I could switch to the "off" carrier for TMobile, ergo SimpleMobile and pay even less!
Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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I think Sensorly is available for iPhones-- if you download it, you'll be able to get a pretty reasonable coverage map of your area that's not from corporate (which is important because it may also show you areas where Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE, but still has it operational). And yes, you can can keep the extra space no matter what ROM you're on-- once Dropbox confirms you're valid for the promotion, that stuff remains server-side (otherwise, anyone owning multiple devices would be in for a huge headache).
Almost all HTC phones have their bootloaders locked, but Sprint's variant is unlockable as per usual by following instructions at HTCDev. When you do so though, HTC will log your device as being unlocked (since you need the unlock key from HTC to do so) and it may become a sticking point if you need to ever use manufacturer warranty.
4G tethering works as far as I know.
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I think Sensorly is available for iPhones-- if you download it, you'll be able to get a pretty reasonable coverage map of your area that's not from corporate (which is important because it may also show you areas where Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE, but still has it operational). And yes, you can can keep the extra space no matter what ROM you're on-- once Dropbox confirms you're valid for the promotion, that stuff remains server-side (otherwise, anyone owning multiple devices would be in for a huge headache).
Almost all HTC phones have their bootloaders locked, but Sprint's variant is unlockable as per usual by following instructions at HTCDev. When you do so though, HTC will log your device as being unlocked (since you need the unlock key from HTC to do so) and it may become a sticking point if you need to ever use manufacturer warranty.
4G tethering works as far as I know.
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Thanks for the sensorly. According to the website, it says there is 4G in NYC! However, on the iOS app nothing shows up. I don't see any coverage of any kind (i.e. not for 3G, 4G etc).
Okay gotcha so it's still possible to root the HTC One but you just need a key from HTC and be ready to give up the warranty. Okay that sounds good! Anyone have any experience with their HTC One in NYC? I'm just curious how New Yorkers' experience with the One and 4G has been. I'm from Brooklyn btw but I go to Manhattan all the time.
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Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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My LTE speeds in NYC vary anywhere from 31mbs to 3 Mbs depending on location
limache said:
Thanks for the sensorly. According to the website, it says there is 4G in NYC! However, on the iOS app nothing shows up. I don't see any coverage of any kind (i.e. not for 3G, 4G etc).
Okay gotcha so it's still possible to root the HTC One but you just need a key from HTC and be ready to give up the warranty. Okay that sounds good! Anyone have any experience with their HTC One in NYC? I'm just curious how New Yorkers' experience with the One and 4G has been. I'm from Brooklyn btw but I go to Manhattan all the time.
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Errr really? Try uninstalling/reinstalling it? And are you sure you're looking at coverage maps for Sprint? I can see something up top near NYC.
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My LTE sppeds in NYC vary aware from 31mbs to 3 Mbs depending on location
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I second this I only get respectable 4G in Queens, and some parts of Brooklyn (around 20 down at like 11 pm) it's very spotty in manhattan.
What do you think about the Nexus 5 coming to Verizon
Serious thread
Will update with some sources of speculation as they roll in
Funny read on Nexus 5 rumors on droid-life:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/08/so-many-ridiculous-nexus-5-rumors-today/
According to CNET it will have Verizon support:
http://reviews.cnet.com/google-nexus-5/
Verizon Forums with some thoughts on the Nexus 5:
https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/1004704
It won't come to the useless CDMA carrier. They are happy with their ugly verizon logo branded phones.
VZW is a skank. You should ditch that skank.
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VZW is a skank. You should ditch that skank.
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Swerve, I don't have Verizon....
I want it to happen really bad but I know it probably won't. Verizon will never let Google have the software control they need because CDMA.
I really wish I didn't have unlimited data. Otherwise I'd pick a new carrier.
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If it comes to Verizon their going to screw it up somehow, someway!!:crying:
My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.
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My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.
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Naw..you mean JUST like they're doing on the Nexus 7 LTE tablet!?!
I would love to stay with Verizon. They are great at my job plus I get a work discount and I have unlimited data...With that said after the way they have handled recent big phones (like the HTC One) if they don't get the Nexus 5 (which they probably won't) I am out of here.
Yup I dont see it happening at all
Johmama said:
My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.
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Well, a device without Verizon Navigator is not much of a device at all. They are just looking out for their customers and want to give them the best experience that they can.
/sarcasm
I REALLY want it to come to verizon.. The only reason why I'm still with vzw is because its either them, Alltel, or Southern Linc. And as ****ty as it is, vzw is the best of those :/
My gnex is getting old and tired and I would relaly like to replace it with the N5. But time will tell. I'm not very optimistic though...
I know this will be a bit selfish, but I hope it won't come to Verizon. They messed everything up, will remove Google Wallet, add their own bloatwares and giant ugly logos, not to mention 6months late updates, it will give a bad reputation to the Nexus brand.
However what I wouldn't mind is if Google work with Verizon and Sprint to make a CDMA device but with pure and unadulterated Android without the firmware being messed with, although Verizon would not agree to that, they need to put in CarrierIQ and what not.
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I know this will be a bit selfish, but I hope it won't come to Verizon. They messed everything up, will remove Google Wallet, add their own bloatwares and giant ugly logos, not to mention 6months late updates, it will give a bad reputation to the Nexus brand.
However what I wouldn't mind is if Google work with Verizon and Sprint to make a CDMA device but with pure and unadulterated Android without the firmware being messed with, although Verizon would not agree to that, they need to put in CarrierIQ and what not.
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According to leaks....nexus 5 is already compatible with CDMA....at least from what ive read....the issue is that verizon wont let you activate/use it...again from what ive read
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I think that it's compatible with CDMA, just not Verizon's CDMA. Something about it skips over the 800 band in CDMA. If I recall correctly anyways.
Wonder why CNET assume it's coming to Verizon?
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CBMC said:
Wonder why CNET assume it's coming to Verizon?
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I wonder why anyone still read or trust CNET.
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I wonder why anyone still read or trust CNET.
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Yeah. The author probably saw cdma bands in the fcc filing and assumed that meant Verizon(not realizing that they were not Verizon bands) . I really doubt that this writer has some inside information about the phone coming to Verizon.
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Screw Verizon and its users. Yes, Verizon has a great network, but NO it's not worth getting raped by them and having to use their locked down hacked phones and over priced plans.
Verizon and AT&T are the big brothers of the cell industry, their mentality of "You will take what we give you and like it." is killing it for consumers. Yeah T-Mobile and Sprint has worse networks, but the more people that move to them will show the giants they can't operate like that.
I would drop Verizon in a heartbeat if I could. Paying for a single line with 1gb of data and it's right at 100 bucks. And that's with my 17% discount through work! But, I can't drop Verizon... It's either them or alltel for my area...
As a Verizon User, I was so ready for the Nexus 5 to come out on Verizon and when it didn't, yet the hardware supported it, I knew there had to be a way to get this device to run on Verizon's Network. So, naturally I looked around on Forums and such and here is what we know right now:
- The WTR1625L Built by Qualcomm (The Same chip in the G2) Does in fact have hardware support for Verizon
- The Nexus 5 DOES recognize Verizon as a network and has even allowed some users to browse on Band 4 LTE Shown here
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847&page=32)
- CDMA Voice and Band 13 Currently do not work (As Expected)
- A User named Ken GS4 over on the Google Forums here, was in fact able to have his Nexus 5's IMEI registered and active inside of Verizon's Database, and then theoretically, should "Activate". Now, Ken has stated that the phone would not work on CDMA or Band 13 however he does not live in a band 4 area and was unable to check on that
(http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/Jv9FAwucMWM/7pIfTKxY5yUJ)
- Additionally, Ken had stated that the Verizon Wireless employees told him that on their end everything checked out and so, it had to be something in the Firmware that would be blocking it
- Some users on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847 have attempted flashing the LG G2 Radios at no avail, so unless those files are heavily modded in order to allow the Nexus 5 to turn on without a boot loop, that solution is out.
So, It looks as though all of us Verizon Users need a developer to look deep into the code, find what is blocking the Verizon network, and create a flashable zip which could remedy the solution and allow the WTR1625L to work as it does in the G2 but without any blockage. Now, developers, as we know, are busy and need to put food on the table. So, I propose we start a kickstarter/IndieGogo Campaign, along with a WILLING DEVELOPER, and have all of us Verizon users put our money where our mouths are. We would need to raise enough money to get a Developer a Nexus 5, and enough for a Verizon plan for at least a month, along with some extra cash to allow him/her to have payment for completing this incredibly large task. So, We are calling out to you, THE DEVELOPERS, to contact me so I can create a kickstarter/indiegogo campaign in your name, so that you can raise enough money to help all of us Get This Phone working on Big Red!!!
Screw Verizon. I left them after 5 years of sh!tty droid phones. I even had grandfathered unlimited data.
N5->VZW=Headache
Solution :
Sell N5 + Buy VZW G2=No Headache
Just sayin....
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Nexus will never "officially" be on Verizon again
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
It will probably never happen I was with VZW for 10 years and I just switched to att and its been so much better just get out if u can.
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If Verizon wanted the phone on their network they would have made a deal with LG/Google to do so legally. It seems to me an attempt to hack software to allow a phone to operate on a private company's bandwidth smacks of being illegal. If they wanted it, it would already be there. If you love the phone, take it where it works. If you live VZW, then pick something in their product line.
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
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And THIS is the reason I am switching to T-Mo next month after 15 years with VZW. The GNex debacle was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Can't wait to have a REAL Nexus.
sorry verizon people, your just going to have to accept that verizon will not ever get a nexus device, due to how they handled the galaxy nexus. And they shouldnt after that.(
I left verizon & unlimited data about a month & a half ago. Sure, I hated to lose unlimited data. But, I wanted the N5. Sometimes you have to make hard decisions. Give up the good fight with verizon, you will not prevail. Leave as soon as you can if you can have good service with another provider.
um, WTR1625L is the transceiver. there are other components that need to be compatible (modem which is inside the snapdragon 800 chip, antennas)
you probably need to modify modem as well.... good luck finding the source code (FCC regulates the baseband) or hacking it
I'm gone from Verizon too. Have only found one place where I get no signal on tmo and in fact have a better signal in my office than I ever did on vzw. To the poster above, why would you lose unlimited? I'm on prepaid unlimited everything. Don't miss vzw too much. They won't legally allow a true nexus on their network any time soon so if you want a nexus you better be prepared to leave big red...
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A lot of people don't seem to understand that Verizon throttles people's bandwith once they hit a certain limit on their data. It's still unlimited, but you'll be getting it a lot slower eventually if you use a lot of data. The same goes with any "unlimited" data plan from prepaid carriers these days, you typically pay for a certain amount of data at "full 4G/LTE speeds" and then once you hit that limit, you get throttled down to a slower download and upload rate.
I'm on Aio Wireless and get 8+/- mbps on LTE (They cap you at 8mbps on LTE), but once I hit my limit, I go to 256kbps which is still plenty fast enough to surf the web. You're not going to stream netflix in HD off of that little bandwith, but for many people it'll do the job just fine for facebook, surfing the web, checking emails, etc.
I left Verizon a year ago, and I'll never go back to them ever. Even if they lowered their prices to be competitive with T-Mobile or other prepaid carriers, it's not worth their bloatware loaded phones, cdma network, or software update timeline.
Verizon will never get a nexus. Nor do they deserve one. They hold off updates etc. And that's not what a nexus is about. I had unlimited data on Verizon. And was with then for 10+ years. Sold my **** and left. Got straight talk using att towers. It's been a month and I'm much better off.
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A bit of an analogous story, I bought an HP touchpad during the firesale and the community back then was so hellbent on getting android to work on the HP tablet because the native webos was a dying ecosystem. Lo and behold a bunch of developers actually managed to get Android onto the HP touchpad but it didn't run very well because the touchpad's hardware wasn't optimized for android to begin with. It was a crappy, unstable experience.
Alot of credit and Kudos go to the developers who made this possible, however. Those guys were amazing but the long and short of it is that you're going to be making a huge effort to get a subpar experience. If you can't break from the Verizon network, you might as well just get something which is officially supported or naively runs on the Verizon network.
TLR you're putting a bunch of effort in achieving a subpar experience at best.
Just leave Verizon. They charge way too much and have crap phones. Jump ship to T-Mobile or att
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Jesus people just don't understand. it's technically just not feasible to use it on Verizon.
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I left verizon for ATT and am not looking back. I used to love verizon becuase of the great service but ATT has the same if not better service. I even left with a corporate discount and unlimited data. The Nexus 5 was just worth it.
Another one here that left a corporate discount and grandfathered unlimited data just to have an unadulterated Android experience with the Nexus 5. I miss the unlimited 4G and that there were more LTE towers for verizon in my area but it was a sacrifice I had to make. Saves me some $$ in the long run and I have a much better phone because of it.
why do people insist that this is possible? it's not going to work, just move on to another carrier.
Today I posted this on G+:
https://plus.google.com/104522596589171041648/posts/JfBDxdTAjSR
I'd be willing to place down a wager that the +Verizon Wireless and +AT&T variants of the Galaxy S5 will have the download booster feature disabled.
I can't imagine those companies taking very kindly to the idea of using WiFi and LTE simultaneously, just due to the fear of pissed off customers going over their data plans because they had no idea what they were doing. Plus it has the real potential to create even more usage on their networks, which most bigger carriers don't seem to like.
Considering how providers like to push people to use WiFi whenever possible (doesn't ever carrier have a WiFi finder app these days?), yeah, I don't see the big boys taking too kindly to the download booster. I guess we'll find out in a little under 2 weeks.
If my hunch is correct, I'd highly suggest that anyone owning affected variants scream and complain to anyone who will listen. This will hopefully lead to the guilty carriers releasing statements saying "The exclusion of the download booster functionality was an oversight and not intentional. We will fix this issue in a future software update."
Any thoughts?
It better not be. But yes, I can see them doing that. I say, it's my data, let me use it anyway I want to.
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Well AT&T's sure doesn't mention download booster anywhere on the S5 page. I swear to God if they disabled it I will raise hell. Such a great feature too.
But these larger carriers have to much control. They really shouldn't be able to touch any device or modify it. Only Samsung should do that. If T-Mobile didn't have such spotty coverage by me, I'd be on them in a second ordering my S5 instead of ATT.
Ordering the non carrier version of the S5 isn't an option either because it so conveniently doesn't support bands 4 and 17. WOW
That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
I could be wrong but i would imagine there is a setting you can disable to prevent yourself from constantly using both. So it should be in the purchasers hands hence no reason for AT&T to disable it to prevent data overages. That being said, AT&T is a company that likes to piss everyone off and remove features that are major selling points just because they can.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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I preordered an AT&T GS5 as well. I don't think it will replace my Z Ultra GPE as a daily driver, but I'm definitely going to have fun with it.
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That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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I ordered a white one too. The GS4 GPE only comes in white so I'm used to white Galaxy devices now. haha
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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I am hoping that there is a way to disable it, as I really don't need it.
As it turns out, I changed my mind.. Cancelled my order and ordered HTC One M8
http://techknowzone.com/how-to-use-download-booster-in-samsung-galaxy-s5/
According to that article, not only can you disable it, but it actually doesnt impact normal web browsing or downloading small files. All the more reason AT&T has no excuse to disable it. For the average consumer, you wont got over your data simply because its on. If you arent downloading files over 30mb, it does nothing.
I'm sure the feature isn't there on the store models. Maybe because no sim card or active data connection
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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yes its out. also got some pics
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yes its out. also got some pics
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Wow... Well hopefully the floor model isn't running final software and there will be an OTA before launch. I'm not going to freak out just yet.
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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I'm going to head over to the biggest corporate store in the area tonight and see if they have a GS5 on the floor. If so, I'll try to verify it. If it's true, you can bet your ass I'm canceling my preorder.
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Some pics from the store today
Sorry they came up inverted.