Signal strength - Sprint HTC One (M8)

Can those who have the device already comment on your reception strength compared to your previous devices?
I have a Moto X, and I used the have the M7. Signal strength of the X is a consistent 10-15 dBm better than on the M7.
Just wondering if anyone can chip in and comment on this. If signal strength is about the same as the M7, I may have to go with the S5. I tether for my home internet so every little bit matters.
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dpwhitty11 said:
Can those who have the device already comment on your reception strength compared to your previous devices?
I have a Moto X, and I used the have the M7. Signal strength of the X is a consistent 10-15 dBm better than on the M7.
Just wondering if anyone can chip in and comment on this. If signal strength is about the same as the M7, I may have to go with the S5. I tether for my home internet so every little bit matters.
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I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
Moto X: - 108 dbm
Evo 4G LTE: -106 dbm
Hope that helps.

webdude12 said:
I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
Moto X: - 108 dbm
Evo 4G LTE: -106 dbm
Hope that helps.
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It does, thank you.
For me it makes the difference between hanging onto LTE and dropping down to 3G.
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It does, thank you.
For me it makes the difference between hanging onto LTE and dropping down to 3G.
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Hopefully some others will chime in with their results.. because being worse then the evo lte is not looking good.
That was my main complaint, it would always prefer 3g over lte. Switched to the One and it was much better. Although the fcc filings showed the M8 being even better then the M7. so this is weird.

regalpimpin said:
Hopefully some others will chime in with their results.. because being worse then the evo lte is not looking good.
That was my main complaint, it would always prefer 3g over lte. Switched to the One and it was much better. Although the fcc filings showed the M8 being even better then the M7. so this is weird.
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Yeah from what I've read the Evo LTE had horribad reception.
Another big thing is that the M8 and S5 have Spark... And since I live in Houston, I'll be able to take advantage of that, which is huge.
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Yeah, im in kc.. So i can't wait to see the difference between spark and their normal lte as well.
Unfortunately i have to wait until next week before they'll put in my order.. Something about only online and telesales until next week, which doesn't handle business accounts. Wait is killin me.

webdude12 said:
I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
Moto X: - 108 dbm
Evo 4G LTE: -106 dbm
Hope that helps.
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Was this on 3G? The Evo is notorious for having a subpar LTE radio, while the Moto X is known to have a good/strong LTE radio. Your numbers contradict those facts, unless these numbers represent 3G signal. Otherwise, it sounds like the M8 is bad in the RF field.

Ascertion said:
Was this on 3G? The Evo is notorious for having a subpar LTE radio, while the Moto X is known to have a good/strong LTE radio. Your numbers contradict those facts, unless these numbers represent 3G signal. Otherwise, it sounds like the M8 is bad in the RF field.
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No this is in LTE. I have modified my back on my EVO LTE to make it have a great connection to the antenna every time. Guess I should have posted that.

My old HTC One here at home would connect to LTE and drop to 3G my new one is on LTE and has not dropped down.

Sitting in my living room and seeing the LTE and Spark icon on statusbar, only one bar but it nice to see. It spins as well.

regalpimpin said:
Yeah, im in kc.. So i can't wait to see the difference between spark and their normal lte as well.
Unfortunately i have to wait until next week before they'll put in my order.. Something about only online and telesales until next week, which doesn't handle business accounts. Wait is killin me.
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I am on a Sprint business account and was able to order on launch day. I didn't order until about 5pm CST here in KC, so it won't arrive until Friday. It's in Lenexa right now and THAT is killing me!

Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.

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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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That's not good :/. Are you comparing the LTE dBm?
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On my M7 I would bounce between 3g/4g all day at work...My M8 stayed on 4g all day at work today
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Just got to work and LTE signal is 15dbm lower(better signal). I have never seen -82 dBm on the OG One. Pretty much had LTE/SPARK the whole 1.5 hours to work.

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That's not good :/. Are you comparing the LTE dBm?
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How is that not good?
And yes, this is on LTE.

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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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This is one of the things that I wanted to know the most. Do you mind setting the phone to CDMA only to compare 3G? LTE at my house is really poor, so I'm just hoping for a better 3G signal for the times when I'm in the area, but not indoors to use WiFi.

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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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Me too. I am happy about that.

Higher dBm means the signal is weaker. Maybe I miss understood you and you meant higher as in the dBm was lower.
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My new M8 definitely seems to hold onto LTE better than my EVO 4G LTE did, it's always saying LTE in parts of my house where the old phone would drop to EVDO. In fact, except for forcing it to EVDO once, I haven't seen it drop there at all.
I am seeing strange issues with Wi-Fi though. The 2.4GHz Wi-Fi radio seems to work fine, but at 5GHz things get lossy. Using Signal Check, I see the link speed up around 300-500Mbps and RSSI varies between -55 dBm to as high as -31 dBm, however, if I were to setup a ping between my laptop on the same network and the phone I see upwards of 50% packet loss. Moving the phone physically I can almost plot out what seem like signal nodes and antinodes. My AP here is an Asus RT-AC66U, and the M8 is the only 802.11ac capable device I believe I've ever tried connecting to it. My older phone and my laptop connect to it at 802.11n just fine.
I'm wondering if anybody else is seeing 5GHz issues, I'll continue to try diagnosing things to see if it's a problem other than with the phone.

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HTC One LTE signal compared to other phones

I myself have an HTC EVO LTE and love the (almost) all metal construction that HTC did with the phone. The one thing I do not like however, is the LTE performance. 3G is great and on par with other devices, but as we all know metal does not play nice with cellular siganls, especially LTE.
Which leads me to my question/request......
Can someone tell me (or better yet show me) what the HTC One compares to lets say a GS3 or other LTE device with regards to LTE reception. Really what I would like to see is the RSRP (dBm) values of each device sitting side by side. I know most of the International folks don't have LTE so they wouldn't be able to test this but with the U.S. launch dates approaching there might be some review units floating around for ATT and Sprint that someone could use for a quick LTE comparison.
Thanks in advance!
I'm sure they tested the device and LTE works. Plus there's videos when the device was announced that talks about the signal straight from HTC......
No one has a device to tell you the signal strength,
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expertzero1 said:
I'm sure they tested the device and LTE works. Plus there's videos when the device was announced that talks about the signal straight from HTC......
No one has a device to tell you the signal strength,
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We are about 2 weeks away from the official launch on sprint and at&t. I'm sure people will start receiving their phones soon and could test this.
And its not that the LTE won't work..... Its that I don't want to have another EVO LTE with weak LTE radios compared to other phones like the GS3.
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We are about 2 weeks away from the official launch on sprint and at&t. I'm sure people will start receiving their phones soon and could test this.
And its not that the LTE won't work..... Its that I don't want to have another EVO LTE with weak LTE radios compared to other phones like the GS3.
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Looked at the Phonedog and pocketnow reviews of the Sprint version and it didn't look good for LTE signal
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HTC One LTE

I pick up LTE by my house when I go to the store, which is about half a mile away. When I'm outside that store, my HTC one shows full bars 4G, my girlfriend's iPhone 5 only shows 3G, when I leave the store I still get full bars until I drive under an overpass, then it just randomly turns to full bars 3G.
That doesn't really make sense, I got excited the first time I spotted 4G in that area, thinking that I should also have it inside my house, since it would be faster than my home internet
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I've read several times people saying the bars don't reflect your LTE signal strength but calling signal strength. You could be in the bare minimum fringe of LTE and pick it up and saturated cdma and have full bars and spotty 4g.
Also, the antennas in phones can vary in efficiency and quality. One phone may pick up better than another.
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IPhone 5 bars represent data signal.. The One shows 1x voice.. The One does not hold very good 4G in fringe areas. Wait for the area to launch then start to pinpoint the issue.
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i hope i get 4g soon..i heard by next week
BrianBaker said:
IPhone 5 bars represent data signal.. The One shows 1x voice.. The One does not hold very good 4G I'm fringe areas. Wait for the area to launch then start to pinpoint the issue.
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Sense Roms always show voice signal as bars. You are right. If you install an AOSP Rom on your One the signal bars will be of your data. That's why my wife's old NS4G always seemed liked it had worse signal than my old EVO 3D.
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i hope i get 4g soon..i heard by next week
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Here is the possible bad news: The HTC One uses the Snapdragon 600 which does not support the 800 band of LTE that Sprint has been deploying. I'm currently in Chicago and I can tell you that the 1900 band in a market that is nearly at 100% is spotty at best. The 800 band will travel farther and get better building penetration. The only way to to use the stronger transition band is to switch to a Snapdragon 800 phone when they come out in Q3.
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Here is the possible bad news: The HTC One uses the Snapdragon 600 which does not support the 800 band of LTE that Sprint has been deploying. I'm currently in Chicago and I can tell you that the 1900 band in a market that is nearly at 100% is spotty at best. The 800 band will travel farther and get better building penetration. The only way to to use the stronger transition band is to switch to a Snapdragon 800 phone when they come out in Q3.
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But I don't think Sprint will do much LTE on 800 for a while. They are still shutting down IDEN through the end of the 2013.
undrgrndchemist said:
But I don't think Sprint will do much LTE on 800 for a while. They are still shutting down IDEN through the end of the 2013.
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The last day Sprint will be supporting iDEN across the country is June 29th. The 800 band has been testing in Chicago in spots already, especially out in the suburbs. In a market like this where it's the most completed of any NV rollout, the 800 LTE and 800 1x will be live in late Q3.
Check out s4gru.com for all info on LTE deployment for Sprint. There are apps like Sensorly that can show you actual data strength. Your bars do show voice not data strength though, unless you are on a AOSP ROM, they show data strength.
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gk1984 said:
I've read several times people saying the bars don't reflect your LTE signal strength but calling signal strength. You could be in the bare minimum fringe of LTE and pick it up and saturated cdma and have full bars and spotty 4g.
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I have heard this 2. Bars and 3g/4g icon have nothing to do with each other. Bars is phone reception, 3g/4g icon is current data connectivity.
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WiMax > LTE?

Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
Where'd you read that att models support wimax?
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It's magic, considering ATT never deployed wimax whatsoever. Sprint is the only major cellular provider who went with Wimax, everyone else went lte or HSPA+
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
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All of this is true except AT&T ONE getting WiMax. As was said, AT&T has never had WiMax and the ONE is not capable of it. Whoever told you that is either mistaken or lying.
Depending on where you are WiMax could be more available then LTE as of right now. As they shut down the 800mhz Nextel towers, Sprint will be rolling out LTE 800 on those is the story most have heard.
I'm in Chicago and we have a lot of wimax. But also a lot of lte too. I did get faster speeds on wimax, but I could only get wimax if I were outside. So... I kept it off and only used wimax if I really needed it. It was a major battery hog.
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I had og Evo and Evo 3d which were both wimax phones. The signal was much more consistent than I get on my Evo lte and HTC one. As far as speed, I HAVE spiked to 22mbps once or twice on lte but I have to be right there in that sweet spot which is on the side of a major hwy. I can pull 5-8 mbps on an average lte signal but I am constantly loosing it and switching back to 3g and going back and forth. My wimax signal was a goo 7-8 inside my house. Lte is very inconsistent and my area is suppose to be over 80% complete I think last time I checked.
And like gk said wimax was a battery hog. I could never get half a day if I left my wimax radio on and off the charger. My lte devices last a lot longer. This one I take it off the charger in the morning and still have half battery at night most times
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sauprankul said:
Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
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I would be surprised if it were directly true. The Nextel towers were all IDEN-based and are in the process of being torn down. I have no doubt they will be eventually switched to CDMA/3G and then LTE (or maybe built with LTE from the get-go), but probably not until after Sprint rolls out LTE to its existing tower infrastructure.
Not to go off topic too much but when I lived in Columbus Ohio we had pretty good wimax coverage. And in complete honesty the battery hit was hardly any worse than 3g so I would leave wimax on all of the time. I could go a full 12 hour day at work on my 3d with moderate usage and get home with 30 percent left. Similar comparisons in battery life on my 4g, shift, and et4g as well. Apparently its similar to any other signal issue.... But if its a good area wimax doesn't hurt the battery too bad at all really.
I used to get really inconsistent lte a month ago. I'm not sure if they improved the network to correct it or what but when I unlocked the bootloader, I saw a very consistent experience. Not sure if wiping everything did something to correct it, placebo, or new towers were flipped on the same day.
But I only get 2-3 mbps on lte
Wimax I was getting about 8-10
In any case... Sprint is the only major wimax carrier in the USA and att doesn't use it - as mentioned earlier, OP was lied to about this.
Also, I hear the Nextel iden network will be configured to lte on 800 mhz which our phones don't support. None do at this point actually.
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wimax is awful & I live in a "good" wimax area. Besides Sprint quit building on the network once they realized it sucked.
All right thanks for the clarification guys. I was suspicious when I read it (no idea where, some random forums). Since Sprint is letting go of Wimax and replacing their Wimax devices with LTE, would it be safe to assume that places with "Best" Wimax coverage and/or Nextel coverage will get LTE at some point (6 mos-1 year)? It's really sad when it takes 30-45 minutes do download Cut the Rope at the local mall (in silicon Valley).
Sprint lte (any carried for that matter) is very signal dependent. Stronger signal = faster connection. If u connect to lte and its a slow connection, chances are you are connected to a site farther away then u think, or have a site (one that serves your voice coverage) between the lte site and your phone. All sprint sites are being converted to lte. Most Nextel sites are not. During the conversion, sprint is putting up panels has house both voice and lte on 1900mhz, voice on smr800 and lte on 800smr. No 800smr lte devices are out yet, will will be starting this fall. When Nextel is turned off (last day of this month), sprint will start turning on the 800smr on voice and lte but may take some time (especially lte side). 800smr voice is already being broadcasted in parts of the county, such as in Chicago. Most if not all native sprint coverage will have lte by this time next year. For much more info, go to s4gru.com
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I had Wimax on my evo3d as well as for my home internet through clear. Wimax signal is much weaker than LTE it is easily affected by weather and even wind.it has poor building penetration, hence Sprint dumped the Wimax program and began with lte!!!
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Paleryder said:
I had Wimax on my evo3d as well as for my home internet through clear. Wimax signal is much weaker than LTE it is easily affected by weather and even wind.it has poor building penetration, hence Sprint dumped the Wimax program and began with lte!!!
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It wasn't so much wimax sucked based on the symptoms you described, it's the frequency Clearwire was using. They used 2500 mhz for wimax and if it were lte on that same band, we'd still have poor building penetration and weak signal.
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No 800smr lte devices are out yet, will will be starting this fall.
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the htc one should actually be capable of 800smr lte with some changes to the radio config (and possibly radio software too, but i'm pretty sure that won't be necessary)... once 800smr lte is up and running somewhere near where i live i'll be able to test and figure out what exactly needs to be done to make it work.
hotaru2k3 said:
the htc one should actually be capable of 800smr lte with some changes to the radio config (and possibly radio software too, but i'm pretty sure that won't be necessary)... once 800smr lte is up and running somewhere near where i live i'll be able to test and figure out what exactly needs to be done to make it work.
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it is not capable of 800smr lte....its a hardware thing (no 800smr antenna within the phone) with the HTC ONE, check out the FCC docs...
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1898233 (note page 5, only LTE BAND 25 (g block, 1900 mhz, sprints current lte network)
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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it is not capable of 800smr....its a hardware thing (no 800smr antenna within the phone) with the HTC ONE, check out the FCC docs...
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1898233 (note page 5, only LTE BAND 25 (g block, 1900 mhz, sprints current lte network)
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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first link just says "You are not authorized to access this page.", but i have already seen the fcc filings for the sprint htc one.
from the second link:
CDMA1X + EV-DO band classes 0, 1, 10 (i.e. CDMA1X + EV-DO 850/1900/800)
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Antenna 0 max RF ERP/EIRP: 20.10 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 23.80 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 19.23 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 12.30 dBm (LTE 1900)
Antenna 1 max RF ERP/EIRP: 13.78 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 13.58 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 14.27 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 23.63 dBm (LTE 1900)
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cdma band class 10 is 800smr. both antennas work for 800smr. the radio can transmit and receive on 800smr frequencies.
it's very likely that a simple configuration change will enable lte on 800smr. if that turns out to not be the case, it's definitely possible to do it by modifying the baseband software.
I asked Sprint support about a month or 2 ago if the One would be compatible with 800 when they launch it and they said none of the currently released phones are capable and none will be released until Q3 or Q4
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Note that by the time Sprint actually deploys in large-scale any non-1900mhz LTE, you'll be up for a new phone (that is, 2 years). It's going to take a long, long time. They haven't even started yet.
hotaru2k3 said:
first link just says "You are not authorized to access this page.", but i have already seen the fcc filings for the sprint htc one.
from the second link:
cdma band class 10 is 800smr. both antennas work for 800smr. the radio can transmit and receive on 800smr frequencies.
it's very likely that a simple configuration change will enable lte on 800smr. if that turns out to not be the case, it's definitely possible to do it by modifying the baseband software.
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that radio (antenna) will not work on 800smr LTE. Voice 800smr yes, lte, no
The Sprint version of the HTC One is limited to band 25 LTE 1900. It does not support either of Sprint's upcoming LTE bands -- band 26 LTE 800 and band 41 TD-LTE 2600.
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Vincent Law said:
Note that by the time Sprint actually deploys in large-scale any non-1900mhz LTE, you'll be up for a new phone (that is, 2 years). It's going to take a long, long time. They haven't even started yet.
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Sprint has started an 800smr LTE fit in Montana.
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gk1984 said:
I asked Sprint support about a month or 2 ago if the One would be compatible with 800 when they launch it and they said none of the currently released phones are capable and none will be released until Q3 or Q4
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This is correct :good:
***THIS IS LIKE THE OLD "WILL MY WIMAX DEVICE WORK ON LTE" DEBATE " lol ....we all know how that ended up

Poor LTE signal

Having returned the T-Mobile N900T Note 3 due to signal issues, preferably with LTE, I am quite disappointed with the AT&T variant. My AT&T Note 3 sits on -98-105 dbm, where the iPhone 5S sits on -93dbm signal strength. If I take my iPhone 5S to a lower level of my home, the signal decreases, but does not drop LTE. The Note 3 switches to HSPA. While this isn't a huge concern, as we have wifi, I am still left uncertain with the Note 3's signal strength. In places with weak AT&T LTE, the Note 3 struggles. It seems to be about 5-10dbm off, compared to the iPhone.
This is running the latest NB4 update. I'm gonna probably put the phone away for a while until it gets kitkat to see if anything improves then.
Nobody has had a poor experience with the Note 3's LTE signal strength?
Well considering that you had and returned the T-Mobile Variant for signal issues, and now are complaining of the same exact thing on the AT&T variant...
have you considered that it might not be the providers fault?
Maybe it is the area you live in. You never did specify what network you are using the iPhone on.
It could be the devices themselves... Rather unlikely, but possible. So blame the manufacturer
You are also not clear at all what service provider you were using with the T-Mobile or the AT&T variants. That can be changed.
So... Ultimately this thread is completely useless because it really provides no information for anyone to base a response on.
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i have an AT&T Note 3 and an iPad Mini both on my plan, and i do feel that the iPad consistently displays a stronger signal. when i check, they are either equal or the iPad shows stronger, but almost never does the Note 3 show a stronger signal. hard to say which actually works better, and it could be just the way that the 2 OS's report signal strength, but i kind of feel the iPad will load data better when i'm in a weaker signal area. Nothing real empirical here but just a feeling..
i haven't taken notice of comparisons when dropping from LTE to HSPA.
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Well considering that you had and returned the T-Mobile Variant for signal issues, and now are complaining of the same exact thing on the AT&T variant...
have you considered that it might not be the providers fault?
Maybe it is the area you live in. You never did specify what network you are using the iPhone on.
It could be the devices themselves... Rather unlikely, but possible. So blame the manufacturer
You are also not clear at all what service provider you were using with the T-Mobile or the AT&T variants. That can be changed.
So... Ultimately this thread is completely useless because it really provides no information for anyone to base a response on.
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You are right, I do need to be more clear. When using the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3 on AT&T, my LTE signal was very poor in areas where the iPhone 5S on AT&T would be average to strong.
When using the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3 with T-Mobile's service, I found LTE to be fine.
When using AT&T's Note 3 with AT&T service, I find the LTE signal to be about 10dbm off from using the iPhone 5S on AT&T's service. In places where my AT&T LTE signal was about -90-105dbm, the AT&T Note 3 using AT&T's service would sit at about -100-110dbm; considerably a weaker signal.
For what its worth, I do not have HSPA+ issues using AT&T Note 3. HSPA+ signal is always stronger.
MattMJB0188 said:
You are right, I do need to be more clear. When using the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3 on AT&T, my LTE signal was very poor in areas where the iPhone 5S on AT&T would be average to strong.
When using the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3 with T-Mobile's service, I found LTE to be fine.
When using AT&T's Note 3 with AT&T service, I find the LTE signal to be about 10dbm off from using the iPhone 5S on AT&T's service. In places where my AT&T LTE signal was about -90-105dbm, the AT&T Note 3 using AT&T's service would sit at about -100-110dbm; considerably a weaker signal.
For what its worth, I do not have HSPA+ issues using AT&T Note 3. HSPA+ signal is always stronger.
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How about adding some speed test results of different devices in different locations of your home.
YrrchSebor said:
i have an AT&T Note 3 and an iPad Mini both on my plan, and i do feel that the iPad consistently displays a stronger signal. when i check, they are either equal or the iPad shows stronger, but almost never does the Note 3 show a stronger signal. hard to say which actually works better, and it could be just the way that the 2 OS's report signal strength, but i kind of feel the iPad will load data better when i'm in a weaker signal area. Nothing real empirical here but just a feeling..
i haven't taken notice of comparisons when dropping from LTE to HSPA.
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Yes, I have noticed this as well.
440bro said:
How about adding some speed test results of different devices in different locations of your home.
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Definitely. So your telling me that you get perfect reception with LTE on your note 3? Even the device at the store had a lower LTE signal than my iphone 5S.
A lot can contribute to bad reception.
Area of service, land size and shape, being inside or outside, poor antenna on the device, the radio on the device, interference from other devices, peak hours, possible physical damage to the device, etc. Not every device is the same and each device will report differently.
For instance, my wife has the Note 2 on AT&T her signal never fluctuates from 2 bars while we are at home. She has OK LTE strength. On my Note 3, jumps from 2 bars to 4 bars with about the same speeds on LTE. If we walk right down the road out of the neighborhood, we both have full signal, but my phone smokes hers in speed tests.
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graydiggy said:
A lot can contribute to bad reception.
Area of service, land size and shape, being inside or outside, poor antenna on the device, the radio on the device, interference from other devices, peak hours, possible physical damage to the device, etc. Not every device is the same and each device will report differently.
For instance, my wife has the Note 2 on AT&T her signal never fluctuates from 2 bars while we are at home. She has OK LTE strength. On my Note 3, jumps from 2 bars to 4 bars with about the same speeds on LTE. If we walk right down the road out of the neighborhood, we both have full signal, but my phone smokes hers in speed tests.
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I know all of that. I think you are missing the point though. Why would one phone get considerably less signal strength in the same location? Why does my iPhone 5S hold onto an LTE signal with -115dbm, while the Note 3 on AT&T only gets HSPA+ in the same spot? Its generally weaker.
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I know all of that. I think you are missing the point though. Why would one phone get considerably less signal strength in the same location? Why does my iPhone 5S hold onto an LTE signal with -115dbm, while the Note 3 on AT&T only gets HSPA+ in the same spot? Its generally weaker.
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Because the 5s has more antennas and also has a aluminum frame so it boosts the signal a lot.
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Because the 5s has more antennas and also has a aluminum frame so it boosts the signal a lot.
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Hmmm, I didn't think of that. But the GS4 pretty much got the same signal as my iPhone 5S. Weird.
MattMJB0188 said:
Hmmm, I didn't think of that. But the GS4 pretty much got the same signal as my iPhone 5S. Weird.
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That's strange the note 3 has newer antennas than the s4 so definitely weird. I get amazing signal with mine. much much better than the nexus 5 I sold it for and almost equal to the 5s I had before
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Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the LG Nexus 5X's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
how is GPS??
I was worried about how this thing performed on verizons network. It has 4g in places I have never seen before and 1x is amazingly sensitive
I'm with Eastlink in Canada, which uses Bell's towers with free roaming. I had to fight with the S4 every damn day to get signal, it dropped every time I turned off the screen and I had to manually reconnect. All. The. Time. The 5X hasn't dropped service once since I've had it.
I've only used mine on T-Mobile but i've had fantastic success with it. I plan on popping in a friend's verizon SIM just to see how it picks up as I switched to T-mobile when i got this phone.
On Three UK 99mbps down, 30mbps up. Coverage is good & radio recovers well to loss of signal.
Network speed in my hometown, a small town in northern Greece, on the superb Cosmote network! Excellent phone, excellent network, excellent coverage (3G averages 25 Mbps).
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It's working places my HTC One M7 had a lot of trouble with. I might actually stay with Sprint now. Yes, I actually said that.
On T-Mobile in the Bay Area, and I actually think its poor. The signal is OK out doors but indoors it sucks. The Moto X in doors kills the Nexus 5x in that area. But then again I've always heard that Motorola still makes the best radios....
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I've only used mine on T-Mobile but i've had fantastic success with it. I plan on popping in a friend's verizon SIM just to see how it picks up as I switched to T-mobile when i got this phone.
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falcon26 said:
On T-Mobile in the Bay Area, and I actually think its poor. The signal is OK out doors but indoors it sucks. The Moto X in doors kills the Nexus 5x in that area. But then again I've always heard that Motorola still makes the best radios....
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I don't know if it's T-Mobile or what but I haven't been getting good speeds lately in central California. And it's not just with the Nexus 5X. I started seeing slow downs towards the end of my 2013 Nexus 5 use. I thought it may be the old bands in the Nexus 5 and T-Mobile was pushing their newer ones more but I'm seeing the same slow speeds on my Nexus 5X. Maybe T-mobile just changed something in my area to where it has affected me in a bad way but almost every time I do a speed test, I get between 2-5Mbps. Sometimes 10-15 if I'm lucky. And my bars are full. I used to get good speeds in my area but not lately. It hasn't really affected my internet usage too much but it's just sad to see those speeds.
No problems with cellular strength, very reliable
What about VoLTE support for Jio 4G in India?
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I'm using the Nexus 5X with Three in the UK. Compared with the original Moto X, the HTC One M8, it's decent - it doesn't cling on to a signal as aggressively as the Moto X but it's much quicker jumping up from HSPA to LTE. Better than the One M8...
Jio 4G VoLTE is Supported.
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What about VoLTE support for Jio 4G in India?
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Jio 4G & VoLTE supported and works without any issues. Currently on Nougat 7.0 with Kali NetHunter ROM. It doesn't show any VoLTE icon but I/OG calls work as normal without the need of any additional Jio apps.
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haki.gr said:
Network speed in my hometown, a small town in northern Greece, on the superb Cosmote network! Excellent phone, excellent network, excellent coverage (3G averages 25 Mbps).
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Damn! That is some amazing speed you got there. :good:

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