Are phones from different carriers more dev friendly? - Sprint HTC One (M8)

Verizon seems to prevent people at great length from tampering with their phone, as I've learned from my brothers' S4.
AT&T M8 section has 2 Roms already, with a third being ironed out.
And I know many of the devs here have vast knowledge with the Sprint HTC phones with tons of experience.
Does AT&T just make it easier to develop for? Or, do the others just try harder to make it difficult, even though HTC has unlocked the boot loader for all their phones?
I've never understood this.

mcwups1 said:
Verizon seems to prevent people at great length from tampering with their phone, as I've learned from my brothers' S4.
AT&T M8 section has 2 Roms already, with a third being ironed out.
And I know many of the devs here have vast knowledge with the Sprint HTC phones with tons of experience.
Does AT&T just make it easier to develop for? Or, do the others just try harder to make it difficult, even though HTC has unlocked the boot loader for all their phones?
I've never understood this.
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I think what it comes down to is, what the developers actually have. The International M8, AT&T version have a bigger following I guess. The only one I have been reading that was difficult for Verizon as they superglued the bootloader. Many devs in the Intl forum eventually support Sprint variants. They just iron out their own variants first. I do hear the partitions are the pretty much the same for Intl, AT&T, T-mobile and Sprint. mike1986 believes his ROM should work for the Sprint variant but im not that brave yet to make sure. LOL

I'm in no hurry. There is a honeymoon period with a new phone for me.
I was just curious as to why different carriers tend to make you jump through hoops.
I guess the WiFi tethering is a good example?

schmeggy929 said:
I think what it comes down to is, what the developers actually have. The International M8, AT&T version have a bigger following I guess. The only one I have been reading that was difficult for Verizon as they superglued the bootloader. Many devs in the Intl forum eventually support Sprint variants. They just iron out their own variants first. I do hear the partitions are the pretty much the same for Intl, AT&T, T-mobile and Sprint. mike1986 believes his ROM should work for the Sprint variant but im not that brave yet to make sure. LOL
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His 3.0 did not work on sprint, but I see he has a 3.1 I will give that one a try right now, it looks like he completely reworked it.
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Actualy it might work because I had the boot loop he fixed.
Fixed bootlopps when selecting SuperSu by Chainfire in AROMA installer
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Nope 3.1 not working

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[Q] Who would like to see a CDMA ONLY htc one forum?

I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY CDMA ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
Re: [Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
SteelH said:
I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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+1 I have to agree.
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Re: [Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
SteelH said:
I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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Yes definitely. There will be bootloader issues on American devices
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Re: [Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
SteelH said:
I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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I agree 100 % , separation is needed.
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Re: [Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
+10000000000
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Yes. I'm a Limey and I'm tired of all you Yanks ... Yanking up the joint
[Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
I would also agree if the differences are that much of a problem. Ill be getting one from AT&T as a upgrade and if there is significant differences between unlocking and other types of things I don't want to be confused and asking if something works on US version of phone or not.
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compact_bijou said:
Yes. I'm a Limey and I'm tired of all you Yanks ... Yanking up the joint
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Thanks for your feedback. It's going to get really cluttered in this forum if they don't seperate stuff as the US launch is imminent.
Re: [Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
They wouldn't separate the international and us one x+ even tho the ROMs were incompatible so I doubt this one will be separated
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There are loads of other phones that don't have separate forums to distinguish different regions and frequencies....don't recall it being a problem before. ROM developers sorted things out just fine. If this is just because people don't want to have to sort through the different international release dates then that is a bit short sited thinking no?
Rumball said:
There are loads of other phones that don't have separate forums to distinguish different regions and frequencies....don't recall it being a problem before. ROM developers sorted things out just fine. If this is just because people don't want to have to sort through the different international release dates then that is a bit short sited thinking no?
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We had issues in the past in the evo 3d forums where the cdma roms/themes/mods did not work on the gsm version and vice versa. I think it would at least be good to have seperate subforums for US/Carriers so that people dont flash gsm radios by mistake on their cdma versions and brick their phones. If the international version is the same as US T-Mobile and ATT then that can be one subforum with the other being for Verizon (if verizon gets its) and Sprint. So maybe a GSM vs CDMA subforums could work.
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We had issues in the past in the evo 3d forums where the cdma roms/themes/mods did not work on the gsm version and vice versa. I think it would at least be good to have seperate subforums for US/Carriers so that people dont flash gsm radios by mistake on their cdma versions and brick their phones. If the international version is the same as US T-Mobile and ATT then that can be one subforum with the other being for Verizon (if verizon gets its) and Sprint. So maybe a GSM vs CDMA subforums could work.
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Excellent point.
Where do you have the information from that there will be a CDMA version of this phone? Can you link one, please?
Sprint is cdma only, so is Verizon of they get one.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/htco...3:HTC:Tablet&adSelectData=1:Module_HTC_022213
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I don't know when its coming out. I've read next week or may something... link to an article http://goo.gl/2lToZ
I'd suggest waiting till more information about the phone is available. If it is a redesign like the butterfly and DNA then a separate form. Else, i'd vote for a sub forum. Whatever makes most people happy.
I don't care how you do it but it needs to be done, I'm tired of wading through the international topics/discussion just to find the few US relevant info.
Yeah, should definitely happen.
If necessary, you can bring up the forums that have been split to the site managers, like the 2 s3 forums for the different carriers as well as the international s3 being separated from the carrier specific one
You could tell them that its to prevent bricks from flashing roms, which depending on how its set up will most likely be an issue anyway
Basically i agree, +1 on this
I'm all for a subforum! Maybe not necessarily a separate forum, since I think the majority of "discussion" will be pretty unified, as the device itself is similar when not focusing on radios in specific.
Something like this will probably happen in the future. I've seen it for the majority of other devices, at least.
jotha said:
Where do you have the information from that there will be a CDMA version of this phone? Can you link one, please?
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Right on Sprint's website.
Sprint is a US carrier that ONLY operates on CDMA. Like the EVO 3D, it was EXTREMELY nice to have GSM & CDMA forums separate as flashing stuff on the wrong hardware could brick it in a second.
While having a separate CDMA section might be ok (depending on if the roms are in fact incompatible), I think the AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus & international variants should share the same section.

Why won't the DEV support Verizon HTC ONE.

Question for the DEVs of THE HTC ONE....
Why won't you guys support the Verizon HTC ONE ?
yardi4life said:
Question for the DEVs of THE HTC ONE....
Why won't you guys support the Verizon HTC ONE ?
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Question for you....
Why won't you go to the Verizon HTC ONE forum instead of complaining against DEVs? :laugh:
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alray said:
Question for you....
Why won't you go to the Verizon HTC ONE forum instead of complaining against DEVs? :laugh:
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Because DEVs in Verizon HTC ONE forum support the phone. DUH! lol! And its a question for DEV's in the HTC ONE forum if they so choose to answer. Not a complaint..
I don't get why Sprint, ATT, TMO is supported, but not Verizon. I know why it was that way, but I figured by now that would a have changed.
I thought it was a kernel source issue, but after checking HTC DEV, Verizon HTC ONE has a newer kernel source that ATT and SPRINT.
I get that ATT/T-MO and International variants probably have more in common with GSM/LTE bands than Verizon, but then there is SPRINT which is CMDA like Verizon.
Myself and other Verizon users would love the flexibility that others enjoy. Just say!
With that said. Thanks to these guys @andybones, @buckmarble, @brymaster5000, @Flyhalf205, @hawknest, @newtoroot, @santod040, @Zarboz and others for not forgetting us on Verizon.
yardi4life said:
Because DEVs in Verizon HTC ONE forum support the phone. DUH! lol! And its a question for DEV's in the HTC ONE forum if they so choose to answer. Not a complaint..
I don't get why Sprint, ATT, TMO is supported, but not Verizon. I know why it was that way, but I figured by now that would a have changed.
I thought it was a kernel source issue, but after checking HTC DEV, Verizon HTC ONE has a newer kernel source that ATT and SPRINT.
I get that ATT/T-MO and International variants probably have more in common with GSM/LTE bands than Verizon, but then there is SPRINT which is CMDA like Verizon.
Myself and other Verizon users would love the flexibility that others enjoy. Just say!
With that said. Thanks to these guys @andybones, @brymaster5000, @Flyhalf205, @hawknest, @newtoroot, @santod040, @Zarboz and others for not forgetting us on Verizon.
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Don't forget @buckmarble :highfive:
Better question: Why not just switch to AT&T and enjoy the freedom that most of the world does? I left Verizon in 2007 because of the awful UI that they ran on EVERY PHONE. Using a RAZR was no different than using some ****ty Pantech, I and some others were able to flash our way out of it, but it required for more tricks and tools. Even then, it sucked by comparison,
I have a friend with a Verizon HTC One. If I could flash the Developer Edition ROM and make it work, I'd have done it the moment he bought it. I don't use custom ROMs. So while he's trapped with Android 4.2, I'm sailing with 4.4 already. He'll be lucky to get it by February. By then, I'm sure I'll be even farther ahead.

Htc m8 general

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is that section all about?
I see Venom Rom and custom kernels. I see different sections for different carriers already, so what is that one for?
Is that section for ALL carriers?
Pretty much what it says. It's a general forum, mostly for the international version and there's some scattered in there for U.S. carriers but pretty much just gsm variants. There are some mods said to work on all variants. Some are clearly broken down and labeled in the OP, but some you gotta search and read every post to see if anyone asked if it'll work on Sprint (or other) and see if there's an answer. I keep going thru it myself getting itchy to flash something. I came from the evo LTE and got into this whole root thing 8 months after that phones release so there was already plenty of development going on. This is my fist phone seeing it from the beginning, and with a model on every carrier. The evo was specific to Sprint so all development was just for that phone, made it much simpler lol.
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Moto X XT1055 GSM

A couple days ago I set out on a mission to use my GSM sim card with my phone.
I found this guide *I'm a new user so I can't post the link XD, it's called "How to: Unlock GSM for Moto X 1st and 2nd gen US Cellular"*
I followed it exactly and I was able to make calls and texts....However no data. Which annoyed me. So, me being me, I decided to keep going until it stopped working :crying: I tried flashing it, flashing just the modem, I even looked into NV values, bands and whatnot myself. Being a programmer and having worked with hardware many many times in the past, it wasn't too difficult to understand. However, try as I might, I cannot get it to work again. It detects the SIM card, I see the number, and it even says I have voicemails.....However I have no signal. I'm completely puzzled. As far as I can tell from typing *#*#4636#*#* it is using GSM. and I tried many different ones. Any help is greatly appreciated. As of now, I also tried flashing a different kernel and then just decided to flash CM13 thinking maybe there was a lock in the kernel.....No luck.
EDIT: I don't think it necessarily makes a difference....But it might. I took an OTA update after flashing my phone originally. Then I followed the guide and it worked. Now when I flash my phone I can flash everything except gpt.bin since it blocks me from downgrading that. And I have tried updating to the same update again....it makes no difference.
Hi there,
I will move your thread in the correct forum dedicated to Moto X Q&A for more relevant answers.
Good luck
Razvan said:
Hi there,
I will move your thread in the correct forum dedicated to Moto X Q&A for more relevant answers.
Good luck
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Thanks. I was able to do research and was able to figure out why it wasn't working. I'm considering writing a thread with instructions on how to unlock the XT1055 for use with GSM bands since there doesn't seem to be much about it. I was originally trying to make it work with AT&T. but they discontinued GSM 850. My phone is supposed to be capable of WCDMA 1900 and so is AT&T, however, when I try this my phone enables and disables its radio repeatedly.....So, I'm not exactly sure what's going on with it.
Matt8110 said:
Thanks. I was able to do research and was able to figure out why it wasn't working. I'm considering writing a thread with instructions on how to unlock the XT1055 for use with GSM bands since there doesn't seem to be much about it.
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I was told by a friend, that some of XT1055 are remarked 1056, 1060, and 1049. They can have GSM after a bit modding. But there are also TRUE XT1055, that can't have GSM at all, it's blocked completely.
There was described a dependance by serial number, but I forgot where I saw it, and can't find, sorry )
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If you can share a guide to unlock 1055, pls, would be great to see. I have one non-GSM-achievable 1055 with "bad" serial number.
s5610 said:
I was told by a friend, that some of XT1055 are remarked 1056, 1060, and 1049. They can have GSM after a bit modding. But there are also TRUE XT1055, that can't have GSM at all, it's blocked completely.
There was described a dependance by serial number, but I forgot where I saw it, and can't find, sorry )
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If you can share a guide to unlock 1055, pls, would be great to see. I have one non-GSM-achievable 1055 with "bad" serial number.
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make sense, pdadb state that xt1055 is a pure cdma-lte phone
un1ocked said:
make sense, pdadb state that xt1055 is a pure cdma-lte phone
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Yep. I think we won't hear more information from OP. True xt1055 (not labeled in utags as "xt1055") physically can't have GSM
The xt1055 is capable of gsm. If you look at what bands are supported it does support a few gsm bands. I'm not sure about the remarked thing. But several sources say it is capable. And I did get it to work. AT&T just happened to discontinue the band I used for their network right after I got it to work. Purely bad luck. The xt1055 has limited gsm bands. Didn't stop me from trying unsupported bands still xD didn't work of course. Interestingly the xt1055 is also supposed to capable of wcdma. But I couldn't get that to work at all
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several sources say it is capable. And I did get it to work.
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Yeah, I found some successful cases. But not every one gets GSM on 1055, even after following sophisticated guides, and looks like due to remarked thing. I'm still pessimistic.
Bumped up a small trick here, maybe it will help.

Custom Rom availability?

When we can expect Custom Roms for Asus Rog 3?
Its been a month now, Asus send ROG 3 to some developers for testing device with custom roms but sadly no news till date. Despite of Unofficial TWRP & Few Great Kernels, development for this beauty is very slow!
Hopefully soon:fingers-crossed: (good things come to those who wait)
I would love to try a stock-based ROM with a plethora of enhanced features and options.
This is a good but not a popular phone. So I guess it'll take some time before we get a custom ROM. It'll come but if the community isn't big they will not be huge support on those ROMs. I know that Asus offered the phone to some devs as Lineage OS and Dirty Unicorns, but nothing is sure they will develop anything for this phone.
Here the list of developers who got the phone
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-rog-phone-3-custom-roms-custom-kernels-development/amp/
bASKOU said:
This is a good but not a popular phone. So I guess it'll take some time before we get a custom ROM. It'll come but if the community isn't big they will not be huge support on those ROMs. I know that Asus offered the phone to some devs as Lineage OS and Dirty Unicorns, but nothing is sure they will develop anything for this phone.
Here the list of developers who got the phone
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-rog-phone-3-custom-roms-custom-kernels-development/amp/
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Omnirom is already in testing. There will be many custom roms in the near future.
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sendme2pop said:
When we can expect Custom Roms for Asus Rog 3?
Its been a month now, Asus send ROG 3 to some developers for testing device with custom roms but sadly no news till date. Despite of Unofficial TWRP & Few Great Kernels, development for this beauty is very slow!
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Slow? Do it yourself then. Your one of the reasons devs left this place. Ungrateful.
Yes
bs3pro said:
Omnirom is already in testing. There will be many custom roms in the near future.
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Slow? Do it yourself then. Your one of the reasons devs left this place. Ungrateful.
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I understand ur concern, I'm not that good to develop custom roms. And I respect the developers. I just asked when we can expect!
bASKOU said:
This is a good but not a popular phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-rog-phone-3-custom-roms-custom-kernels-development/amp/
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I doubt this isn't a popular phone.
Anyone who's into mobile gaming knows this kind of phones.
It's just that these gaming phones are highly not for everyone.
I mean, they probably saw in the mall, but:
~Mostly marketed at the same price as flagships = Expensive
~Too focused on gaming (both looks & specs), this will feel heavy to use for someone who just want a decent smartphone
Basically, these phones have its own community.
JCatsuki said:
I doubt this isn't a popular phone.
Anyone who's into mobile gaming knows this kind of phones.
It's just that these gaming phones are highly not for everyone.
I mean, they probably saw in the mall, but:
~Mostly marketed at the same price as flagships = Expensive
~Too focused on gaming (both looks & specs), this will feel heavy to use for someone who just want a decent smartphone
Basically, these phones have its own community.
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Yes, it is a niche market. So not popular as this is only for a limited amount of users interested by this kind of phone. I just look around me and nobody know this phone.
I have no doubt it is not a popular phone like a flagship from Samsung, Huawei or OnePlus. I am used to have non-popular phones as I choice my phone for it's spec and not for the quantity of bloatware offering useless options to me.
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bs3pro said:
Omnirom is already in testing. There will be many custom roms in the near future.
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Slow? Do it yourself then. Your one of the reasons devs left this place. Ungrateful.
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It is all I hope, but I just looked at the rog phone 2 forum yesterday and there were not that many, the support wasn't really here.
I am not in hurry to get custom ROM, as I use air triggers daily. But if one day there is a ROM developed especially for this phone with specific options dedicated to the rog phone 3.
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Omnirom is already in testing.
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Is there any board or group for any information about Omni? I saw the Rom for Rog 2 but there is no information or anything about that.

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