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On the fence

So I am on the fence. I currently have the s3 and I am trying to hold out with the mindset that Sammy will release some updates in the near future that will smooth this puppy out a little more ( less dropped frames) and bring some of the software enhancements found in the s4. I have been wanting the s4 since before its release today I found what I think to be a killer deal. A girl in my area on craiglist has a new in the box s4 and she is asking 400 for it. By far the cheapest I have seen on craiglist to date. My big too is that my contract is up and I really don't want to renew it cause I am also thinking of switching providers as sprints 3g data speeds and coverage is real shotty in Vegas. What are your guys thoughts is it really worth the upgrade?
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I upgraded from the s3 and while I dont think its a huge update, I totally love the screen. Its so crisp and bright. I used my mom's upgrade since she wanted my s3 but if I didnt have the option, i would of just waited til next year to upgrade

I traded my S3 into Best Buy and got $262.50 the had them price match Amazon on the S4 for $599. So I paid $385 off contract after tax. The phone is great and I still have my upgrade on July 1st still.
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GiantJay said:
I traded my S3 into Best Buy and got $262.50 the had them price match Amazon on the S4 for $599. So I paid $385 off contract after tax. The phone is great and I still have my upgrade on July 1st still.
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That's a really good idea. The other route I was thinking of going is getting the 400 dollar one of craiglist then trying to sell mine for 300 that way I am only put of pocket 100 and stiff have no contract.
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cas8180 said:
That's a really good idea. The other route I was thinking of going is getting the 400 dollar one of craiglist then trying to sell mine for 300 that way I am only put of pocket 100 and stiff have no contract.
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If you do get that phone I would tell the person to meet you at a Sprint corporate store and activate the device while they are there. As a safety precaution of not getting a phone with a bad esn or something stolen that can't be activated.
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I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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joefrog1996 said:
I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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Agreed with this. I personally prefer to to upgrade every 2 generations. I skipped the S3 and will skip the S5 as well.
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I just bought a s4 on craigslist for $450 un-opened and sold my s3 for $300.. so I've spent $150. And I love the upgrade! If you can get the s4 for $100 (after selling your s3) I would jump on it, you won't regret it. And yes meet at the sprint dealer, or call sprint and check the esn right there before you give them money. That's what I did.
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joefrog1996 said:
I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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Nuh-uh! I have ir blaster and can tell you the temperature and stuff!
But in all seriousness, I have yet to find what my n2, works s3, and hell, even my e4gt lacked over this for personal/business use.
One thing is for certain; this phone has better hardware for signal and net speed over the rest in the po-dunk town I live in.
Still excited for the n3 but I don't, overall, regret getting this.
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I'd buy that S4, sell the S3 and remain off contract for the S5. You're pretty much paying contract price for the S4, and it will probably command more $$ than the S3 when the S5 is out. Seems like a no brainer to me.
And I gave my S3 to another rep to keep her contract open, have the Note 2 on my line and have it on ebay now with 17 people watching and good bidding going on. Picked up the S4 on a spare line that gets used as a dummy company phone where the Hero works just fine. So selling the Note 2 will net me close to $200, and I have the one contract open to pick up the S5 or god forbid a premium slider for the next go around. That should be "The Next Big Thing" that will most likely not happen.
The screen is a touch nicer. I like the extra screen real estate for typing, especially coming off the Note 2. The res bump is noticeable but not that dramatic. The extra horses, IR blaster and sensors are a nice bonus too.
And not that it matters, but you'll have more bragging rights around the iphone 5S crowd. I work with a bunch of iphone owners who are starting to turn on their iphones (especially the 5), but still like to raz.
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joefrog1996 said:
I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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The S4 is a great update compared one thing dual core version quad better display ir blaster 4.2.2 them right there only make it a major update from the S3. The thing is the list goes on and on. Anyone that thinks they are the same device just one has a better display is dead wrong and probably have never even seen a S4 in real life lol. Not saying you have not just saying in general.
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I also wouldn't do it...I'm pretty sure the S3 will get updated soon and there really isn't a HUGE difference between the two phones. If it was a Galaxy S2 that would be a different story

Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.

agat63 said:
Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.
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I have to agree with everything here. I have had basically every Galaxy, though I started with the OG G1 on Tmobile, and I can say every upgrade is substantial in my eyes.
Like Agat said, the design is similar, but that's because Samsung is trying to establish a brand with the Galaxy series looking similar to another with small design improvements as they move a long. Personally I love how the S4 looks compared to the S3, way less rounded and flatter, more candy bar shaped you could say and it feels a lot better in hand.
But design aside, the core of the device has improved all around, way better camera, way better screen, faster processor, better battery, and plenty plenty more. It is what it is, it's an upgrade, every new phone isn't going to be completely different and etc. I love my S4 and don't regret getting it one bit. As development here on XDA as well as apps that fully utilize the power of this device come out, the upgrade will become more and more visible.
Just a BTW, what I did was sell my S3 on craigslist for 350, (I kept all the original boxing, pamphlets, headphones, etc and the phone was in mint condition as I had thrown on a dope screen protector and case on day 1) so I was able to sell it for a good price, I actually sold it to a developer that works for some mobile development company so it was pretty cool haha. But yeah, then I just used one of my family members upgrades since they could care less about their phone and switched over the device to my line. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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I always save the box, paperwork, and accessories. Never touch any of the accessories. Figure the more something looks like new, the more you'll get for it. And my Note 2 went for almost $450 on ebay. Good pics also help generate interest.

agat63 said:
Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.
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I was by the palms today and pulled 20mps down I was super impressed on my s3. I see the 4.2.2 update is coming for us relatively soon too so I don't know I may hang onto the s3 I am still on the fence. Had I not see the complaints thread in here I probably would have already gotten the s4
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I just love how creative people get when doing an upgrade and getting it on the cheap!
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cas8180 said:
I was by the palms today and pulled 20mps down I was super impressed on my s3. I see the 4.2.2 update is coming for us relatively soon too so I don't know I may hang onto the s3 I am still on the fence. Had I not see the complaints thread in here I probably would have already gotten the s4
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My next upgrade is in October.
So it wasn't a brainer for me. If S5 is out by then I'll get one too.

agat63 said:
My next upgrade is in October.
So it wasn't a brainer for me. If S5 is out by then I'll get one too.
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I am trying to follow you through devices agat dating all the way back to the s2 but you keep moving too damn fast!!
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cas8180 said:
I am trying to follow you through devices agat dating all the way back to the s2 but you keep moving too damn fast!!
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I have 4 lines family plan with 6 months staggered upgrades available.
I take most updates since my kids and my wife are using some of my stuff.
So they don't mind to follow me half year later....

Touchwiz update for note 3 possible?

Do you think samsung will update touchwiz on the note 3 to be the same as on the gs5, or will they keep it exclusive to the gs5 and later to make you buy the new phone?
I've seen kitkat on the international version and it wasn't even a noticeable difference visuslly, so I'm hoping samsung will push an aesthetic update to touchwiz.
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If they think that making it exclusive to the S5 only to make anyone buy that phone, they are ridiculously stupid.
90% of current Samsung owners look at the S5 and laugh at how mediocre it actually is compared to older devices. They really didn't upgrade much and what is upgraded in miniscule at best. Not worth dropping the S4 or the Note 3 to get it.
Another thing is that TW sucks the fattest of asses. Most people would agree with me on that. The only class of devices it is good on is the Note series of phones and Tablets simply because of the S-Pen and it's features.
So... If they update it any time soon, it would be nice/won't matter for us on the Note series of devices. Any other device will probably fall under the don't matter/don't care side.
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Oh yeah I definitely agree that I don't think it's a legit reason to upgrade. I have no intention of even considering it I would have just liked the visual overhaul of the settings app and the quick settings (I like color is the only reason). Also I like flip board so having an easier to access extra home screen for the magazine would have been better than swiping up and waiting for it to load. I will probably just use the regular flip board app though.
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Oh I meant to add in that I see samsung being dumb enough to think making the new touchwiz exclusive is enough to make people upgrade. Take for example a heartbeat monitor thing... I run with my phone and I don't think this is something I need. But oh man its the next big thing!
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[Q] Is the S5 worth it? I need your opinion!

I have a Tmobile Galaxy Note 3 unlocked which I use with AT&T.
I am debating on trading for an AT&T Galaxy S5 16 GB.
the question is.. is it worth it to do straight up swap for 16gb S5 since my Note 3 has twice the memory and more power.
Please let me know what you guys think!

Most definitely, I had the s3 with latest rom & I have to say this s5 kills it in battery life, speed, smoothness. Plus the camera is phenomenal. This is probably the best phone out currently. Plus we got root, the easiest ever and recovery. I have already debloated and installed V4A, PLUS most all my favorite apps.
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MUFC17JW said:
I have a Tmobile Galaxy Note 3 unlocked which I use with AT&T.
I am debating on trading for an AT&T Galaxy S5 16 GB.
the question is.. is it worth it to do straight up swap for 16gb S5 since my Note 3 has twice the memory and more power.
Please let me know what you guys think!
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If I were given the chance to go back in time and remake my upgrade decision, I wouldn't have gone with the S5. I didn't do my research about the bootloader and knox, which I had no problem with on my S3, and I am now considering trading my sister for her Nexus 5.

If it had unlocked bootloader I still wouldn't go with it. I feel like Samsung is slowly turning into Apple. Giving you outdated tech and saying it's new. Why didn't they put a better processor in the phone? Why didn't they put 3GB of ram in the phone. Why only 16GB of internal space? Why so when and if they push the Galaxy S5 prime/ Galaxy F they can give you what they should of in the first place? I'm on a rooted LG G3 and I love it. Glad I picked this phone.
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I seriously doubt you'll actually need 3gb of ram. I understand that samsung decision to not include it when the tech is there is stupid but nonetheless, anything above the current flagship standard is frivolous (unless we suddenly reach the next generation of mobile apps and gaming). That being said, just the water resistance and battery alone is totally worth an upgrade. I've never had a phone that even comes close to the s5's battery and I've had them all from older galaxies to blackberries to iphones
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Looking at the specs on Phonescoop, the note has a bigger screen and more memory, a little slower processor, not as good a camera. If camera is super important to you, you might want to switch. I'd guess the processor speed difference isn't noticeable to most. Think about it in depth before you switch. Also although the camera is better, there is still not more than 4x zoom. I love my s5 but this sounds like a really close call for you.
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I had the note 3 and sold it.went back to the s4 for a bit and now the s5. I think you shouldn't have any regrets after switching. Phone is tough http://bgr.com/2014/04/02/galaxy-s5-drop-test-video/

I would go with the S 5 Active or the HTC (M8). At least with the M8 you can unlock your bootloader and get root.
All we have for the S 5 is root and safestrap (Which is awesome) Thats all you should have for the Note 3 right?
Dont get me wrong, you will be happy with the S 5 but a lot of people are extremely happy with the HTC M8.
HTC actually had an 30% sales increase since this phone and business is looking good for them!!!
Samsung is going the wrong way in my mind. They want more corporate peeps.....
PS: I had the Note 3 before this S 5 and I like the S 5 better.

is the N6 still worth getting?

I am currently looking for a new phone, I was going to go for the S6 but I cannot stand touchwiz. I also use tasker quite heavily which requires root and will trip samsung knox voiding warranty.
I went into a store today and the N6 is quite a big larger than what I am used to but it comes with stock android. Any advice is welcome

Still worth it since it'll still probably support Android M and has top notch hardware.
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i just switched about 2 weeks ago from the 2013 Moto X to the N6 and i love it. i love the stock pure android, size bugged me for abit but no longer dose any longer. i have made some tweaks to the phone and i get 2 days battery life out of the phone even when i listen to music all day long at work. so i think it is a great phone but it is all up to personal taste

The reason I picked it up 2 weeks ago is because if I need to jump from carrier to carrier, at least I know if I have issues I will always get updates and not have to wait on Samsung or LG.

Who's moving on to a nexus?

Just curious to see if anyone is making the jump now that the new nexus' have been released for pre-order. If so what was your main reason? Easy root? More development? Hardware? Software? And if not are you staying with Samsung after the lock down they put on there phones? I myself have owned several nexus phones before and they have always been great, my only issue is there is always some hardware spec I'm missing, usually the camera. Right now with this variation I feel the 5.7 inch screen is a little much for me and know ois for the camera on the nexus p and the nexus x is the right size but way to underwhelming as far as specs go.
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I would if I didn't have to pay anything to trade
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You could probably sell your edge and recoup most if not all of the cost of the nexus... that or find someone in a few months willing to trade straight up
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I preordered my nexus 5x. I went from a nexus 5 to this and have regretted it ever since. My main reason is the openess..there's a huge battery problem that could be fixed without having to wait on Samsung if there wasn't a bootlock.

Yeah man after having several nexus devices I switched to the lg g3 then this and I miss the development possible with the nexus. I don't know if anyone from the att forums ever pops in on a nexus development thread but it's a virtual playground of new roms, kernels, and useful mods. Don't get me wrong I'm appreciative of anyone putting in work on the att variants, it's just nowhere near the support a nexus gets! If they would just come out with a soild camera and the premium specs the 6p has, I would've preordered also
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I am cant wait to get it. I doubt im ever coming back to samsung =(

I'm getting swayed myself. My notifications, device wake don't work unless with CM locker and then it's still not consistent. Then there are the gremlins here and there but there are some that really bothers me.
Plus I'm tired of my Nexus friends getting the new upgrades all the time.

I know how you feel, especially considering if I had a nexus right now I would have the marshmallow update already. Unfortunately I'm still stuck on 5.0.2 because I don't wanna lose root! By the time we see marshmallow it'll be on the SGS7! I sweat if tmobile gets it together with a consistent lte signal Im done done done with AT&T
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Samsung makes very nice phones but i really want more flexibility. I have already ordered a Nexus 6P and i hope i am going to like it. I am only worried because it is bigger than my edge.

If its your first nexus you will love it, theres almost too much flexibility! Youll find yourself messing with everything lol. The only thing is you dont get the gimmicky stuff as much as you do with manufacturers like samsung and htc. Some people miss that. The size difference, thats another story and partially why I have held off until I can hold one and see in hand the difference. I had the LG G3 and that is about as big as I think I can comfortably go with a phone.

Last time i had a samsung was the note 2.. i hated that phone so much i traded it for a optimus g pro. loved that phone still have it today. i swore i wouldn't go back to samsung. then the s6 appeared. 64 bit cpu exynos was destroying the benchmarks. smaller more efficient cpu manufacturing, awesome screen, glass, metal. smaller more efficient battery and finally tw had less bloat.damn made me change my mind. i had to pre order....... i have hated this phone since month 3 of owning. i hate this samsung. cant wait to get rid of it. i gave my htc m8 for this crap. m8 never lagged like this pos and battery was better. and the phone seemed faster idk how or why. samsung made me hate samsung. so yeah im getting a nexus just can't decide which. waiting on the reviews. not making the same mistake of pre ordering

Yeah man I know, that's why I skipped the s5. I've owned the sgs2, Samsung galaxy nexus, Sgs3, and sgs4. I got in on the sgs4 while there was still a bootloader exploit, however once i saw they locked it down in a way where the later versions could only use safestrap I was like, no way will I ever come back to Sammy. Skipped the sgs5 and went with the LG G3 but was lured back by the specs on this phone!! Samsung always has the hardware I want in a phone, best cpu, great screen, good camera, couple cool little gimmicks to play with... but this allowing manufacturers to lock down bootloader and essentially kill the dev scene is really pissing me off. I have always bought my wife HTC phones when I upgrade because I can never decide between 2 phones, her m8 still running as smooth as day she got it, I didn't even unlock and rom it like I usually do. I just cannot find the perfect storm of cutting edge specs that I want and development to go with. Sucks!!!
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The reasons I like Samsung phones is their hardware. Great camera, screens, better memory configurations, and lately the design of the phone. If all that was put into the nexus then it'd be an easy decision. Unfortunately the nexus lacks that. Idk what my next phone is going to be after this debacle.
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