Shutter Speed Issue... - Sprint HTC One (M8)

When I set my shutter speed in manual mode to anything between 2.5 and 4 seconds (for long exposures) it seems that my camera draws MUCH more light and makes the screen and picture almost completely white. I have verified that the flash is off. I am new to long exposure photography and I know a phone isn't the best device for it, but I have seen a few reviews which mentioned it on this phone and thought I'd give it a try. Is anyone else noticing this? I am testing it in my office and the screen is almost a solid white. Thank you in advance

klarthur said:
When I set my shutter speed in manual mode to anything between 2.5 and 4 seconds (for long exposures) it seems that my camera draws MUCH more light and makes the screen and picture almost completely white. I have verified that the flash is off. I am new to long exposure photography and I know a phone isn't the best device for it, but I have seen a few reviews which mentioned it on this phone and thought I'd give it a try. Is anyone else noticing this? I am testing it in my office and the screen is almost a solid white. Thank you in advance
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Long exposure shots are usually used at night when it's not as bright. Pictures of the night sky where you can see the star trails, or the pictures of cars on the highway with the headlights as a streak are examples of long exposure. Using long exposure when the is enough light for a normal picture will cause it to look washed out (overexposed) try the long exposure shot outside at night. If you have kids give them sparklers. It's a cool way to have fun with the family and get some really cool pictures.
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gstanke said:
Long exposure shots are usually used at night when it's not as bright. Pictures of the night sky where you can see the star trails, or the pictures of cars on the highway with the headlights as a streak are examples of long exposure. Using long exposure when the is enough light for a normal picture will cause it to look washed out (overexposed) try the long exposure shot outside at night. If you have kids give them sparklers. It's a cool way to have fun with the family and get some really cool pictures.
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Thank you for the response. That makes much more sense! I appreciate you explaining it to a camera noobie like me Thanked!

klarthur said:
Thank you for the response. That makes much more sense! I appreciate you explaining it to a camera noobie like me Thanked!
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No problem. My girlfriend has a cannon rebel t3i so we have taken a few long exposure shots. Very cool but kinda tricky. We have always used a tripod to hold the camera.
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Using other camer apk's

On a whim I decided to downlad the google oem camera apk . It works beautifully on the bionic!!! Super fast and pictures look very good!! Only issue I see is the setting only goes to 5mp. To me it seems to work better then any other camera app I've used.
Camera apk : http://db.tt/9Lyxzfl (dropbox) for a limited time
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sound good. The current camera could be improved a bit..it focus rather slow.
Went out tonight and shot some pics with the camera in auto and 8mp, granted it did focus slow. I think they are half way decent shots. (I'm no photographer)
This is one picture I wish I had more of an ability for light and focus and what not
Weird thing about this pic, is that actual daylight was just a tad brighter.
scheatyj said:
Went out tonight and shot some pics with the camera in auto and 8mp, granted it did focus slow. I think they are half way decent shots. (I'm no photographer)
This is one picture I wish I had more of an ability for light and focus and what not
Weird thing about this pic, is that actual daylight was just a tad brighter.
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I see that you are at ArtPrize in GR! I just got finished walking all throughout downtown rocking my Bionic with 4GLTE
ITGuy11 said:
I see that you are at ArtPrize in GR! I just got finished walking all throughout downtown rocking my Bionic with 4GLTE
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Yes, just figured out how to make Camera 360 shoot in 8MP so I'll be shooting with that tomorrow, see if its any better.
Right now testing around my building, it shoots a bit quicker, and has some more options. I am starting to like it better than the stock app, for stills at least.
I really want to get the Nexus S camera app, but what is keeping me is no 8mp support. I feel if I can, I should.
I want my friend to come visit me this weekend so I can shoot with his Nikon DSLR. I am going to try the Macro mode we have built in tomorrow on this stock app.

Simple low-light camera and camcorder tweak!

Hey guys I have found another tweak. In our build.prop I noticed ro.mediacapture.torchintensity=40. Upping this increases the flash brightness in the camcorder. Also ro.media.capture.flashintensity=70 upping this increases the flash brightness in camera.
I confirmed they made a difference. Tried last night taking a picture at stock setting, then a picture with it upped to 100. Then did the same with the camcorder.
Try raising those values to what you feel comfortable with and let me know if they have helped you guys.
WARNING! Obviously too high would kill battery quicker if taking many shots or long videos. But this definitely works.
Heres an interesting concept. Can we adjust a setting to get 8mp widescreen? If possible would be amazing! Havent been able to figure this one out though.
Be careful turning the flash to high.you could burn the led out.
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Izeltokatl said:
Be careful turning the flash to high.you could burn the led out.
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I hear ya, but considering led last alot longer than regular lights I wouldn't worry than much. Besides that why we have warranties.
gkitab said:
I hear ya, but considering led last alot longer than regular lights I wouldn't worry than much. Besides that why we have warranties.
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They may last longer under normal circumstances, but oh man can they die fast. Be VERY careful with how bright you make it and for how long it stays on for. You an burn out the diode very quickly.
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Dont have to put it at 100 if you dont want to. Just pointing out that it most definitely helps. Make it what you feel confortable. It definitely improves low light video and pictures.
upping the brightness wouldn't be so bad if there was a way to deflect the light. taking camcorder pictures with the flash on is great in most any light situation, but because it's a direct light, you get washed out colors and red eye problems.
i wish there were an easy to deflect the light too.
Well its adjustable so you guy can fine the setting that best suits you guys. Keep in mind its only a phone if we want better quality we should use cameras. That being said, upping these values at least gets us a respectable picture or video in low light, a picture worth keeping that doesn't just get deleted after we go back and check it.

Is my camera broken, or I need to play with settings?

Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
are you on 1.29?
the photo`s are overexposed, the one sets the exposure on what it is focusing on, so i would have though it focused on the dark water and raised the exposure, that`s is why the white birds are overexposed, if you focused on a white bird, the one would reduce the exposure, and give more detail on the birds.
You know you can touch the screen to focus, but there is a setting in the menu to take a photo automatically when you click on an area of the screen.
I wish there was an total area exposure mode instead of the focus spot one.
John.
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
valdigre said:
Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
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It's called metering. When you tap on the water to focus (dark), the camera turns the light up so that the water is clearly visible and perfectly exposed. But since you're making dark brighter, the brights will naturally be even brighter. You want the feathers to show detail, you tap on them and it adjusts the light so that they are darker and you can see detail at the expense of even darker water.
Your best bet in these kind of high contrast situations is to use HDR mode. It takes 1 under-exposed image (dark) and 1 slightly over-exposed image (bright) and merges the 2 together. Dark areas will be brighter and bright areas will be darker, giving the image a little fake look, but evenly exposed throughout.
On dSLRs, HDR actually takes THREE images to combine (sometimes even 5). This gives the processor more choices to pick and choose the best parts of each image to merge to a final picture.
SLver said:
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
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Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
yeah do some metering and try different types of shots,
valdigre said:
Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
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Just some samples to explain my previous post. First pic is me focusing on the wall, which is dark. The wall is now not but my lightsource is completely blown out.
As one pic shows me focusing on the light. Since it's bright, the camera has to darken the whole scene so I can actually see the object I focused on, turning the rest of the scene dark.
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Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
It's just the camera. I tested it against an s4 and an Xperia z. Indoor shots were way better on the one than either of them but both beat out the one hands down when it came to outdoor shots. I have tried everything and can't get a really good outdoor shot. I would like to see the result of someone porting the Xperia z camera app to our device but I don't know if it is possible.
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valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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Those first picture is terrible...
Could you post more pictures because that kind of terrible picture i have never had with the htc one...
So we can see if its realy broken
valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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Hey guys,
The problem is, that some extra white/bright objects are too small for the camera to catch focus for and adjust the settings.
I played with settings a bit over the weekend and the camera focuses OK on brighter objects, as long as they are big enough...
A bit of a shame, nor my Lumia 920, nor even galaxy S2 has problems like this... I guess, I can live with it, though

Android 4.4.2 Camera test

Hi all I just received the OTA for Android 4.4.2 so have put together a before and after comparing 4.4 to 4.4.2 for the Nexus 5 camera. Includes some full crop images and video capture as well as the all important autofocus test.
Very pleased with the results looks like Google have made big improvements all round to the camera.
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Thx for the vid man!
Ben36 said:
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Ben36 said:
Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Maybe for you.. camcorder exposure is fine for me.
Stock 4.4.2 odexed
BoneXDA said:
Thx for the vid man!
Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
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because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
Ben36 said:
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
Sampson0420 said:
because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
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No it's not. A rhetorical question is still a form of question, "you've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light" however is not, so the use of question mark is inappropriate? (See what I did there? <-- rhetorical question.)
xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
androidizen said:
Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
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I went 4.4->4.4.1->4.4.2
When I recorded that video, I used 4.4.1.
I tested later and had the same behavior in 4.4.2.
androidizen said:
I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
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I'm starting to think that we're all seeing the same thing and just coming up with different interpretations due to subjective differences. There's no other reason that everyone would be having such wildly different results using the same software and hardware.
All I know is that video recording on my phone in low light is MUCH, MUCH darker than it was on either 4.4 or 4.4.1. I wish I had taken some screenies before updating to show you.
xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
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Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
for anyone wondering about the dimmer picture in the video ,
i made a little example here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3W...it?usp=sharing
( dont have to download to view)
im not complaining , just showing what people are saying
haydonxda said:
Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
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Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwFhXib0pZk
xybur said:
Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
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Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
haydonxda said:
Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
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What's funny is that I had spotlighting right above my head (direct, LED bright lighting) IN the bar at the table I was sitting at, which would make it look like stage lighting.
But it looks as if it's horrendously dark in there and all of the ambient LED's look like christmas lights thanks to the recording and the contrast of light sources. Trust me when I say it was a lot brighter in the bar than the video would lead you to believe.
My 4.4.2 pictures.
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xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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That looks exactly like I would expect a video from a dimly lit bar to look.
I didn't think to take any photos at the time, but the difference between the photo viewfinder mode and the camcorder mode was incredibly noticeable, very similar to the screen caps of the viewfinders posted in the 4.4.2 first thoughts thread.
edit: Here is the thread if you somehow missed it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562886

Pictures taken with One mini 2

Hello, I thought we should have a topic like other devices do. In general I'm not happy with quality of pictures, so much noise especially indoors, also lack of ios is visible with most shots.
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skwieradee said:
Hello, I thought we should have a topic like other devices do. In general I'm not happy with quality of pictures, so much noise especially indoors, also lack of ios is visible with most shots.
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I actually really like the quality of pictures, I previously had a M7, and I can tell you that you really can see the difference between the ultrapixel and the 13MPX of the mini 2. Maybe indoors pictures with low light are a little bit noisy (that's where the ultrapixel goes better, of course), but I wouldn't say it's a problem.
Yeah,the pictures are quite alright,the camera app tends to go crazy for a moment then you get a all white out picture,maybe the problem lies in the fact that I was moving the phone around and it didn't have time to automatically focus and the other stuff it does before I took the pic.
Alright after couple days spent with the phone and ota updated recently I still reckon that pictures quality are far from good. I can't take a still picture all the time, every single picture is moved.
It is slightly better when 2 seconds countdown used.
When anti shake mode used there is a lot strange artifacts that looks awful.
Maybe my hands are shaking a bit more than others but consider that pictures are of still object, when shooting moving object pictures are much worse. Maybe some of you guys have an idea how to set manual mode to get pictures at least off acceptable quality? Many thanks
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skwieradee said:
Alright after couple days spent with the phone and ota updated recently I still reckon that pictures quality are far from good. I can't take a still picture all the time, every single picture is moved.
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It is slightly better when 2 seconds countdown used.
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When anti shake mode used there is a lot strange artifacts that looks awful.
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Maybe my hands are shaking a bit more than others but consider that pictures are of still object, when shooting moving object pictures are much worse. Maybe some of you guys have an idea how to set manual mode to get pictures at least off acceptable quality? Many thanks
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I am not getting moved photos in my case, i don't understand very well. But I have noticed that you have to leave it on the object 2 seconds before taking the picture, so that it can focus, otherwise sometimes the picture is moved
Can someone post more pictures taken with One mini 2, I would like to compare amount of noise, many thanks
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