I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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I've noticed it on a rather old device, a htc desire hd. (running a custom 4.4.2 rom) It lastest so long on 1%.
Probarly you need to re-calibrate your battery, after that it shouldn't get stuck on 1% anymore for such a long time
Jamolah said:
I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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Once a month I recalibrate my battery, and it will sit on 1% for hours some times, and then only minutes the next it just depends. Just let it die then charge it to 100% uninterrupted. Normally they get uncalibrated after rom flashes and if you put it on a charger but don't let it charge to 100%.
I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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Jamolah said:
I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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iKrYpToNiTe said:
Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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oeusr said:
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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Hmm that's odd never had that issue, I rarely go below 50% during the day.
jakereeves31 said:
I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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It is if you do it every time, but not if you do it once a month or after a rom install.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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danny39 said:
When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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This article is old but it explains why you shouldn't fully discharge a lithium-ion battery often! http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
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batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
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I couldn't have paraphrased that article any better nice!
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
Wutang200 said:
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
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did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
I've experienced the same thing on my Moto X.
Something tells me that it's somehow related to poor battery life... But that's just expeculation.
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did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
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I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
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I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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jakereeves31 said:
I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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ya like i said earlier, i also did read that deleting that folder was pointless but who knows. If my phone was continuing to do what yours is then i would be trying all sorts of things that people said wouldn't work. Then i would throw the phone into beer, bc i can, bc this thing is pretty much waterproof as anything. SOmebody submerged the thing in water for 30 minutes and it was still running. So maybe throw your phone in beer as a last resort.
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So, if you have two batteries, how does the system average the battery stats? They are two different animals and I doubt it's conducive to wipe the battery stats every time you want to use the standard battery or change to the extended battery.
abuttino said:
So, if you have two batteries, how does the system average the battery stats? They are two different animals and I doubt it's conducive to wipe the battery stats every time you want to use the standard battery or change to the extended battery.
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Actually, the extended batter is a Lithium Ion Battery, it doesn't need calibration because it doesn't have the "memory" that the Lithium Ion Polymer (standard battery) does.
Lithium Ion Batteries work best with a higher charge, so just keep it charged as much as possible.
If you switch back and forth between the 2 batteries, you need to calibrate the standard battery once, then you should be able to switch back and forth without issue.
Not exactly what I was talking about..
The "Wipe battery Stats" in CWR is what I was talking about.
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Not exactly what I was talking about..
The "Wipe battery Stats" in CWR is what I was talking about.
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Wiping battery stats in CWR is part of the calibration process.
You should charge it fully while the phone is off, then wipe stats in CWR, reboot, use the phone as normal until the battery dies, then charge it fully while it's on.
After that you can switch back and forth.
That calibration technique is for the standard battery. Like I said before, the extended battery needs no calibration.
Understood, but the thing is, won't it get confused by the two types of battery?
abuttino said:
Understood, but the thing is, won't it get confused by the two types of battery?
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Nope. The battery stats are only used for the Lithium Ion Polymer batteries.
The lithium ion battery has no memory. Just try to keep it fully charged as much as possible.
So, if I have a charger at my side, use it eh?
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So, if I have a charger at my side, use it eh?
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Yep yep yep.
One thing I've noticed that maybe Tivo7 can answer:
On the standard battery, when I would reboot my phone the battery life would drop. Say I was at 70% battery life, I'd restart phone and it would be at 50% or 40%..
On the extended battery, its the opposite. I'll be at 80% battery life, restart my phone, and it'll be at 100% for a few hours. And its done this half a dozen times for me. I've never actually seen the battery level do anything other than increase after a restart.
Is this phone just really bad at telling battery level? I know its difficult to accurately determine battery level (I've read that before) but this phone seems to be particularly bad at it.
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One thing I've noticed that maybe Tivo7 can answer:
On the standard battery, when I would reboot my phone the battery life would drop. Say I was at 70% battery life, I'd restart phone and it would be at 50% or 40%..
On the extended battery, its the opposite. I'll be at 80% battery life, restart my phone, and it'll be at 100% for a few hours. And its done this half a dozen times for me. I've never actually seen the battery level do anything other than increase after a restart.
Is this phone just really bad at telling battery level? I know its difficult to accurately determine battery level (I've read that before) but this phone seems to be particularly bad at it.
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That's a known issue and idk how to fix it or if it even needs fixed. I figure it just used a lot of battery to boot up.
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Tivo7 said:
That's a known issue and idk how to fix it or if it even needs fixed. I figure it just used a lot of battery to boot up.
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Well.. you read half my post.
astrogiblet said:
Well.. you read half my post.
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You're welcome for half of the help...geez not thankful at all. Good luck on your issue, I wont be on this thread again. Good day.
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Tivo7 said:
You're welcome for half of the help...geez not thankful at all. Good luck on your issue, I wont be on this thread again. Good day.
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I've thanked every post you've done in this thread.
And I was joking, don't be so negative.
astrogiblet said:
I've thanked every post you've done in this thread.
And I was joking, don't be so negative.
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Maybe I was joking too?
/ninja
But yeah idk how or why that happens or how to fix it. I just deal with it.
My extended battery is usually at like 60% by the end of the day after being charged overnight then used all day.
And I charge it every night so it rarely gets below like 50% unless I do a lot of apk editing and flashing that day.
Informative thread, learning has occurred for me...
I've been running the whole calibration procedure for my extended batt for no reason... Well, NOW I know..
Thanks gents...
TeufelTexan said:
I've been running the whole calibration procedure for my extended batt for no reason... Well, NOW I know...
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Same here, I've used the calibration app a few times and deleted battery data using CWM to see if it would resolve the inaccuracy problems.
Uninstalled the calibration app after I read this thread.
Also, although Lithium Ion Batteries don't have a memory effect, they do have one issue from charging:
High charge levels and elevated temperatures (whether from charging or ambient air) hasten capacity loss. Charging heat is caused by the carbon anode (typically replaced with lithium titanate which drastically reduces damage from charging, including expansion and other factors).
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source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery
So it may not be best to keep it at full charge at all times. I mean, I wouldn't go out of your way to charge it all the time.
Same here.I calibrated my extended a lot of times,Now I don't have to,
Brower facebook and tapatalk for about 20 minutes nothing else. Dropped 8% . I also killed my battery yesterday watching a movie and playing a game took a total of 3 hours. What do you guys think.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
No, if it dies that fast then it's user error.
Install betterbatterystats and look for wakelocks.
HRodMusic said:
let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
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How do I cycle?
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horr1blek1tten said:
How do I cycle?
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let it go from 100 to 0 a few times, when i first got the phone my battery was pretty bad but after a couple weeks im getting 20+hours on a single charge =D
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
HRodMusic said:
well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Running your battery from 100% to 0% is useful in recalibrating the battery in the event of cell mismatches, which can happen over time.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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u need to calibrate your battery like the guy above said by using your phone for a few days
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Here's a very good post for information about li-ion / lithium polymer batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40596097&postcount=3
You generally shouldn't need to recalibrate the battery on a new phone (since it's a new battery), but it doesn't hurt if you think your battery may be mis-calibrated. (for example, your phone sits at 0% battery for long amounts of time) Do you have any apps that monitor wakelocks on your phone?
i was complaining my battery was crap yesterday. iv gained 1 hour in battery since yesterday.
GSam reported 9hours 24mins avg battery yesterday. I cycled it once since then and today its showing 10 hours 38mins avg.
Hoping for further improvements.
The phone needs to know where empty and full battery is. I've always calibrated mine by fully charging and killing at least twice with every phone I've owned and had no il effects and got much better battery life afterwards.
So do I calibrate or cycle? If so, how do I do that? Im fully stock and the only battery app I have is the battery guru made for snapdragon devices. Idk if that's what's killing my battery.
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It does no harm to run the battery to 0% occasionally, but the advice i have seen is to try to not run li-ion / li-po batteries below 10% too often as that can shorten their life.
For a new device i would run it down to around 10% with normal use, then give it a real long charge till it indicates fully charged, then unplug it and wait a minute or so then plug it back in and leave it on charge another couple of hours to make sure it is fully 100% charged.
After you have done this whole procedure maybe 3 times, you should have a properley conditioned battery. My HTC One is usually at 50% or better after a 12 hour working day, so i am more than happy with the battery life.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
proctologist said:
You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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exactly!
Basically just use your phone for about a week, then you can start fixing it
My experience and questions
Thanks for this excellent post! I got my new HTC One day before yesterday and like the Vincent's post says, the phone had about 40-50% of charge when it came in the box. I was very excited to see the phone that I totally forgot about recalibration of the battery
I used the phone out of the box, and I have charged from 2 nights (from about 15% to 100% charge) and haven't run the battery the battery down to 0% yet (when I say 0% what I mean is the level of charge when the phone automatically turns itself off to protect from complete discharge). My questions below:
1) What should I do now to accurately calibrate my battery life? When I called HTC customer service today they asked me to do battery reset (steps below).
- Untick the quick boot under settings -> power
- Turn off the phone
- Hold down the volume up, volume down and the power button continuously for 1 minute (the phone seem to boot up and shut down 3-4 times during this process)
- Run your battery all the way down to 0% and then charge it fully to 100%
This seems to be a fair procedure but since it was told by customer service, I'm a bit skeptical. So I would very much love to hear some opinion of battery gurus here
2) Does the 2 night charging that I did affect my battery capacity (has the dent been made already)?
Please let me know, and thanks in advance!
PS. The battery life in my experience in the past 2 days has been decent (I have about 20% from 7am - 9pm) and I'm a moderate-heavy user!
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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Yes, you will be fine. I cant even run my phone out anymore.
Charge away!
mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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Au contraire, mon frere. Keep your phone as charged as possible. IF YOU LET YOUR PHONE DIE, IT WILL LOSE CAPACITY. That's all there is to it. Charge it as much as possible, except if the battery is hot. If so, reboot, and let it cool for 5 mins, then charge it.
The first 2 days after I got my phone my battery was dying pretty fast but now that I've had it for a week it's lasting much much longer now.
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Au contraire, mon frere. Keep your phone as charged as possible. IF YOU LET YOUR PHONE DIE, IT WILL LOSE CAPACITY. That's all there is to it. Charge it as much as possible, except if the battery is hot. If so, reboot, and let it cool for 5 mins, then charge it.
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Not entirely true. Try to avoid the high end of the charge scale if you can, because then you're banking entirely on the assumption that the onboard controller will correctly charge-cycle the battery from the 95%-100% states. I just don't trust the onbaord that much.
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I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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No. That used to be a problem with older batteries (where it was known as the memory effect), but current-generation Lithium-ion batteries only suffer from this to an essentially unnoticeable extent. If you drop the battery below 10% or so too often (a deep discharge), you can prematurely erode your capacity. It's a good idea to do this once a month or so to keep things running smoothly, but other than that there's no problem with charging/discharging whenever (outside of force of habit and pride-- you can't boast about long battery life if you're charging often, after all).
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(outside of force of habit and pride-- you can't boast about long battery life if you're charging often, after all).
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I STILL don't get it. How one earth does anybody get decent battery life on this phone, let alone those RIDICULOUS 5 hour screen times? I'm assuming there's no way without rooting, though. I can barely get 2 hours of screen time. And my power saver is always enabled!
Appx 35% of my battery is consumed by kernel. About 20% by the OS.
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I STILL don't get it. How one earth does anybody get decent battery life on this phone, let alone those RIDICULOUS 5 hour screen times? I'm assuming there's no way without rooting, though. I can barely get 2 hours of screen time. And my power saver is always enabled!
Appx 35% of my battery is consumed by kernel. About 20% by the OS.
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I can just speak for myself. I root my phones before I use them so I have no idea how much better it is.
These guys who make the roms do some amazing stuff and take out a lot of crap to make our phones run better and faster. In that process, the battery life really improves.
The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.
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The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.
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I was doing the same, I watched 3 episodes of Bob's Burgers and it still didn't die.
its an old motorola issue.
i dont know how its for the moto x but for the defy(+) it was pretty bad.
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its an old motorola issue.
i dont know how its for the moto x but for the defy(+) it was pretty bad.
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Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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Better than my HTC Vivid that went 3 percent 2 percent 1 percent DEAD in 5 minutes.
thepolishguy said:
Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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Hah - Yes -
Coming from the GNex its really difficult to not just plug in the X all the time. I have to keep stopping myself.
I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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taappel said:
I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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I'm not doubting you but have you, like, used your phone at all?
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taappel said:
I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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Yeah it's a pretty strong battery.
Also with the 1 percent lasting forever: It's not a bug, it's a reflection of the socio-economic set up of the united states, the 99% die fast, the 1% can pay to live!
I'll shut up now.
chrisjm00 said:
I'm not doubting you but have you, like, used your phone at all?
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Right now I'm at 65% with almost 2hrs of screen time 14hrs total. Not sure how good that is compared to a lot of other phones, but compared to the Gnex it is amazing. I forgot what it was like to not have my phone plugged in all day.
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taappel said:
Right now I'm at 65% with almost 2hrs of screen time 14hrs total. Not sure how good that is compared to a lot of other phones, but compared to the Gnex it is amazing. I forgot what it was like to not have my phone plugged in all day.
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Just saw my Moto X had 65% battery and almost plugged it in thinking it would die soon. The gnex messed my head up.
rman18 said:
Just saw my Moto X had 65% battery and almost plugged it in thinking it would die soon. The gnex messed my head up.
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Same here. I have a plug sitting here and the Moto X next to it and it's so routine to just plug in the GNEX, I want to do the same with the X but I don't have to.
I dont think this is necessarily a bug, I think it takes time for the OS to learn the full scope of the battery - it is always just estimating the charge. I bet after 6 months of use that 1% glitch would go away and you would see more accurate battery reporting. My phone appears to gain %'s when i leave it be after heavy use.
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I dont think this is necessarily a bug, I think it takes time for the OS to learn the full scope of the battery - it is always just estimating the charge. I bet after 6 months of use that 1% glitch would go away and you would see more accurate battery reporting. My phone appears to gain %'s when i leave it be after heavy use.
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Yep same here, phone went from 4% to 7% yesterday when I was trying to make it last. I had turned off Mobile data at 1% battery life yesterday and my phone was dead within 25-30 minutes of being on 1%. I think everyones phone/battery is calibrated differently. With moderate use I'm down to 25-30% left after about 8-9 hours of use. Coming from my S4 I'm so used to being able to Greenify things, I can only imagine what this phone would be like with Greenify.
Same problem
phositadc said:
The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.
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My phone is having this exact problem. I get about 10-12 hours battery life down to 1% battery, then it stays on 1% for at least 10-12 more hours. Does anyone know if there is going to be a fix released for this? It messes with my head not knowing when my phone is going to die, and I don't want to charge it if it's not dead. For instance, I'm on 2d 5h 14m on battery and it's been on 1% all day. It's pretty insane. Hope they roll out a fix. Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem.
Next time this happens log your current and voltage readings using current widget so we can see what voltage the battery reads during this flat period at 1%. Then someone could plot the discharge curve in excel. May lead to clues. Perhaps problem with the fuel gauge or battery driver in the kernel. It all depends.
I seem to remember reading that the battery meter tunes itself over the first few charges, and that for the best accuracy you need to run it all the way down then charge it to 100%. 2-3 cycles of this is what was recommended. Can't speak to the validity of it but I know after running it down the first time and seeing the 1% last nearly 2 hours with heavy game use, on the second charge 1% meant 1%.
kyle1745 said:
I seem to remember reading that the battery meter tunes itself over the first few charges, and that for the best accuracy you need to run it all the way down then charge it to 100%. 2-3 cycles of this is what was recommended. Can't speak to the validity of it but I know after running it down the first time and seeing the 1% last nearly 2 hours with heavy game use, on the second charge 1% meant 1%.
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I'm on my second cycle of running it all the way down now, so we will see after the first 2-3 times if it calibrates itself. If not, i may be bringing my phone back, or ask verizon if they are going to be releasing a fix for it.
Really take it back for that?
jman391 said:
I'm on my second cycle of running it all the way down now, so we will see after the first 2-3 times if it calibrates itself. If not, i may be bringing my phone back, or ask verizon if they are going to be releasing a fix for it.
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Really take it back for that?
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admittedly, probably not. lol. it's just a bit annoying.
So I'm burning 1.8% per hour according to BBS. Does anyone here know how to decipher the info and tell me what's the culprit?
1.8% per hour? That's not even bad. Round it up to 2%. That's 50 hours. What's wrong with that?
Jayanthy said:
It may be likely that your Moto X’s battery is fine, but having trouble correctly identifying how much battery life is left.
Simply run the battery down to about five to eight percent and let it die. You can speed this up by streaming a YouTube video. Then, when the Moto X has died, let it charge for a few hours before turning it back on.
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http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
Never go to zero
Obviously, using your battery is going to make it degrade. But it's going to slowly die even if you just leave that iPad in the closet for a bit. There's a trick to minimizing that inevitable aging though: leave it a little bit of juice.
If you're going to be shelving any lithium-ion battery for a long time, try to leave it with at least 40 percent battery power to tide it over. Lithium-ion batteries don't hemmorage power at 30 percent a month like nickel-metal-hydride batteries do; they'll lose maybe five to ten percent of their charge each month.
And when lithium-ion batteries get too low—like, literally zero percent—they get seriously unstable, and dangerous to charge. To prevent explosion-type disasters if you do try to charge one, lithium-ion batteries have built-in self-destruct circuits that will disable (read: destroy) the battery for good, if it reaches rock bottom. And sure, that'll save you from a face full of battery-acid, but it'll also leave you short one battery.
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Always have heard it is bad to drain the battery in a phone. I know other people swear by it, but its not worth the risk of it not charging again, or worse blowing up.
Charging sooner doesn't hurt since there is no "charge memory" like nickle based batteries. so just plug it in when you can, and if you your away from an outlet for too long, maybe it time to consider an external battery backup.
OP, here's another thread that has been discusing the same issue, its a good read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
I burn around 6% after the last update, with no other changes to the phone. And that's with Battery Saver on too. Used to be around 1.5 to 3%. Everyone said "just wait, this always happens after an update, it will eventually settle out". Total BS. My daily battery life has been cut in half for months.
Well I did a better battery stats 6 hours test ( let it sit no touching etc ) and Im only at 1% an hour. Im pretty happy with that.
I've tweaked the crap out of my phone....and get 24+ hours with 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 hour screen times. Extremely happy......and best I've got on standby is 1ish per hour.
Again....tweaked the crap out....for battery life. LOL. So 1 percent even may take sacrifices some may not wanna make. I'd say a stock sorta phone would get 2 even and you'd be doing alright.
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wow you guys are getting great battery life! According to GSam Battery Monitor, I'm at 9.7%/hour. Currently 6 hours since unplugged and I'm at 35%! With only 2 hours of screen on time.
I think I messed it up when I first got the phone. I immediately upgraded to the 2 OTA's and forgot to do a factory reset. I think I might do one now and see if it fixes the battery life.
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rda990 said:
wow you guys are getting great battery life! According to GSam Battery Monitor, I'm at 9.7%/hour. Currently 6 hours since unplugged and I'm at 35%! With only 2 hours of screen on time.
I think I messed it up when I first got the phone. I immediately upgraded to the 2 OTA's and forgot to do a factory reset. I think I might do one now and see if it fixes the battery life.
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1 percent per hour is with no use. 9.7 per hour with you using it a lot and depending what you are doing could be perfectly normal.
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