Why no 4.4.2 yet? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hiya.
Recently bought a genuine UK SIM-free/unlocked HTC One (M7) online. Noticed that the Android OS is still stuck to 4.3.
I thought Android 4.4.2 is now available to UK customers for unlocked handsets? And what are the improvements to the phone?
Please advice. Thanks.

Use this app to check your CID: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.tritonsoft.cidgetter
What CID does it say? For UK unbranded, unlocked handsets it's HTC__001. I got the update just fine.

KiraYahiroz said:
Use this app to check your CID: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.tritonsoft.cidgetter
What CID does it say? For UK unbranded, unlocked handsets it's HTC__001. I got the update just fine.
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My CID is : VODAP001. That seems to suggest it is originally a Vodaphone-locked device but it has been unlocked since.
My i know what's my next move?

Gino76ph said:
My CID is : VODAP001. That seems to suggest it is originally a Vodaphone-locked device but it has been unlocked since.
My i know what's my next move?
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Same here, I'm from Croatia and have T-Mobile De version, but still can't update.
I've contacted HTC and they removed 4.4.2. update in some places. They'll roll it out again later, probably with Sense 6. We'll have to be patient until then
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But still, call HTC support for UK and let them check your phone (by IMEI) and tell you if you have the "good" version

Gino76ph said:
My CID is : VODAP001. That seems to suggest it is originally a Vodaphone-locked device but it has been unlocked since.
My i know what's my next move?
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hrvoje334 said:
Same here, I'm from Croatia and have T-Mobile De version, but still can't update.
I've contacted HTC and they removed 4.4.2. update in some places. They'll roll it out again later, probably with Sense 6. We'll have to be patient until then
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But still, call HTC support for UK and let them check your phone (by IMEI) and tell you if you have the "good" version
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Reason why both of you don't have the update yet is because your CID and software is locked to the previous carrier, meaning it's up to them to release the update, not HTC.
This will wipe your phone, but it will unbrand your phone if you follow it correctly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358738
This basically flashes the unbranded version of the ROM and changing the CID to one that HTC does support, so you'll get updates directly from HTC instead of the carrier.

Sorry but right now i'm not prepared to unbrand the phone as it seems to me its too much of a long & winding process. Seeing the link seems too technical for me.
What i have done instead is ring HTC. Gave them the serial number of the phone and they told me that it IS Vodafone-branded phone. They adviced me to contact Vodafone which i did. The Vodafone support person doesn't seem to have a clue to what i'm saying and seems not familiar to how updates are released. He kept on insisting (based on the circumstances i have presented to him|) that Vodafone has nothing to do with updates. Person sounded stupid really.
I tried a Three and an EE SIM card on the One M7 and it works. So far no updates yet.
I can also confirm that being an unlocked phone it has NO Vodafone branding or logo or apps or bloatware on the phone itself.
So, i'm stuck with a year old phone with a old-gen Android OS.
So...what's next please?

Gino76ph said:
Sorry but right now i'm not prepared to unbrand the phone as it seems to me its too much of a long & winding process. Seeing the link seems too technical for me.
What i have done instead is ring HTC. Gave them the serial number of the phone and they told me that it IS Vodafone-branded phone. They adviced me to contact Vodafone which i did. The Vodafone support person doesn't seem to have a clue to what i'm saying and seems not familiar to how updates are released. He kept on insisting (based on the circumstances i have presented to him|) that Vodafone has nothing to do with updates. Person sounded stupid really.
I tried a Three and an EE SIM card on the One M7 and it works. So far no updates yet.
I can also confirm that being an unlocked phone it has NO Vodafone branding or logo or apps or bloatware on the phone itself.
So, i'm stuck with a year old phone with a old-gen Android OS.
So...what's next please?
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Go here: http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
and click on
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nkk71 said:
Go here: http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
and click on
then you'll see why the updates can take a while to come out: http://www.htc.com/assets-desktop/images/softwareupdates/HTC-Anatomy-of-an-Android.jpg
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According to this, every KitKat with Sense 5.5 for One is out. But as I said, some carriers removed the update. Also, some carriers have already released Sense 6. I hope that we'll see direct update to Sense 6 in a month or two

Sorry but the ,link you have given me wasn't very helpful as i'm living in the UK.
Still, i feel not confident with what information/advice HTC and Vodafone has given me as i feel i have been passed around.
What i need to know is what i need to do with my phone as regards updates? (see my previous reply)

Gino76ph said:
Sorry but the ,link you have given me wasn't very helpful as i'm living in the UK.
Still, i feel not confident with what information/advice HTC and Vodafone has given me as i feel i have been passed around.
What i need to know is what i need to do with my phone as regards updates? (see my previous reply)
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To install OTA updates, your phone MUST be stock (ROM and recovery)
sim unlocked or bootloader unlocked is OK

mb_guy said:
To install OTA updates, your phone MUST be stock (ROM and recovery)
sim unlocked or bootloader unlocked is OK
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I have explained many times that my phone is unlocked & SIM free albeit being Vodafone-branded.
So, it still doesn't answer my question: why no Android 4.4.2 for my phone?

I've read an article that One is getting Sense 6 update today! (for unlocked devices). My is branded to T-Mobile, but I hope that I'll get the update until the end of the month

Because the software is still modified slightly by Vodafone. You may have the phone network unlocked but it doesn't mean it's software unbranded. It's still up to Vodafone to update it. To be honest, this sounds more like a second hand handset instead, perhaps the original owner got it for free from an upgrade, unlocked it, and then sold it on as he was probably using another phone.
Vodafone customer support won't know anything, they're not taught anything technical, only the network side of things, which is why they can't answer you.
Honestly, you should just unlock and S-OFF the phone, and change it to a proper unbranded model if you want to get the latest updates from HTC.

KiraYahiroz said:
Because the software is still modified slightly by Vodafone. You may have the phone network unlocked but it doesn't mean it's software unbranded. It's still up to Vodafone to update it. To be honest, this sounds more like a second hand handset instead, perhaps the original owner got it for free from an upgrade, unlocked it, and then sold it on as he was probably using another phone.
Vodafone customer support won't know anything, they're not taught anything technical, only the network side of things, which is why they can't answer you.
Honestly, you should just unlock and S-OFF the phone, and change it to a proper unbranded model if you want to get the latest updates from HTC.
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But why should i get the phone unlocked as its already unlocked in the first place as i'm able to put an SIM on it?
And what do you mean by S-OFF? Is that term called "debranding?

When I mean unlock, I mean bootloader unlocking, which is different from network unlocking and allows you to flash other ROMs.
S-OFF allows you to change the CID, which is needed if you want to receive updates for another version of the HTC One, such as the unbranded version.

I have four years of owning and using an Android phone. Never been a developer or have IT skills or been into rooting phones. I consider myself somewhere above an intermediate user and under expert level.
So, it easy to unlock the bootloader and S-OFF my HTC One M7?
WIll it almost guarantee me i'll still be able to receive the Android 4.4.2 update and (perhaps) beyond?

Gino76ph said:
I have four years of owning and using an Android phone. Never been a developer or have IT skills or been into rooting phones. I consider myself somewhere above an intermediate user and under expert level.
So, it easy to unlock the bootloader and S-OFF my HTC One M7?
WIll it almost guarantee me i'll still be able to receive the Android 4.4.2 update and (perhaps) beyond?
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I've rooted and s-off every phone, but few months after purchase, when I got bored with stock.
If you are doing this for the first time, even though you have good tutorials, it still won't be easy for you. I don't know anything about rooting M7 because I have it for a week, but it probably isn't so easy as it looks like, and it will take you few hours to do it (maybe days if you screw something).
If you unbrand your phone than yes, you will definitely be able to update to 4.4.2. But you need to know that if you do that, you will void your warranty for an almost new phone.
My recommendation: since I've seen that Sense 6 is already out for some carriers in US, it will probably be available in the Europe soon. So be patient and wait for a few weeks, and you'll probably receive direct update to 4.4.2 and Sense 6.

Gino76ph said:
I have explained many times that my phone is unlocked & SIM free albeit being Vodafone-branded.
So, it still doesn't answer my question: why no Android 4.4.2 for my phone?
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Here's the UK site: http://www.htc.com/uk/go/htc-software-updates/
and according to this: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/HTC-One-series/HTC-One-Android-4-4-KitKat/m-p/1943764
4.19.161.10 was released in Feb
Maybe if you search you can find the OTA file somewhere on the net and apply it manually, or check with vodafone, why you're not receiving it.
Cheers

I just want to inform you that I've received 4.4.2 update today. But Sense 5.5, not 6.

HTC_One_M8_91 said:
I just want to inform you that I've received 4.4.2 update today. But Sense 5.5, not 6.
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But that's Sense 6.0. NOT Android 4.4.2.

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[Q] How do I update to 4.2.2 on unlocked model?

I couldn't find it anywhere on the web with a guide that actually works.
I searched "Update HTC One to 4.2.2" and "How to update HTC One to 4.2.2" and couldn't find a guide that worked...
I'm using the unlocked model that I ordered right from HTC and I did the "Check Updates" thing and it couldn't find any more updates. So I'm stuck on 4.2.2.
I'm not looking to unlock the bootloader or rooting right now, just in case i have to get it replaced.
Can anyone provide helpful insight into my problem?
Only reply with helpful tips... don't troll me.
*bump*!!! Plz help!!!
You either have to unlock the bootloader and flash a 4.2.2 rom, or wait it out until HTC decides to push the update to that model.
cee43ja1 said:
You either have to unlock the bootloader and flash a 4.2.2 rom, or wait it out until HTC decides to push the update to that model.
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Really... i thought that unlocked model got the 4.2.2 update???
Wow not surprising that HTC is the WORST at OTA updates...
Chubby_Skunk said:
Really... i thought that unlocked model got the 4.2.2 update???
Wow not surprising that HTC is the WORST at OTA updates...
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USA carriers are the worst for OTA updates, which is why I unlocked my bootloader right away. Then when the international 4.2.2 rom came out, I waited for a bit to see if there was any problems on the AT&T model. There wasn't and I flashed it with no problems. Full LTE and no bloat.
cee43ja1 said:
USA carriers are the worst for OTA updates, which is why I unlocked my bootloader right away. Then when the international 4.2.2 rom came out, I waited for a bit to see if there was any problems on the AT&T model. There wasn't and I flashed it with no problems. Full LTE and no bloat.
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Did you read the OP??
I have the unlocked model, no branding, no bloat, no AT&T, no USA crap.
Chubby_Skunk said:
Did you read the OP??
I have the unlocked model, no branding, no bloat, no AT&T, no USA crap.
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It's possible that the OTA update has not yet been pushed for your device.... it depends on the CID not just the fact that it is a sim free device.
As far as I'm aware no American Ones have yet received the 4.2.2 update
Chubby_Skunk said:
Did you read the OP??
I have the unlocked model, no branding, no bloat, no AT&T, no USA crap.
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I did read the OP. The unlock model is still tied down to US carriers; it's not like its international variant.
cee43ja1 said:
I did read the OP. The unlock model is still tied down to US carriers; it's not like its international variant.
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The updates aren't controlled by AT&T though. AT&T has no control over my device. If I had it on AT&T then I would be waiting for AT&T, but since its a HTC direct, im waiting on HTC to push it to my phone. AT&T has nothing to do with this.
Chubby_Skunk said:
I couldn't find it anywhere on the web with a guide that actually works.
I searched "Update HTC One to 4.2.2" and "How to update HTC One to 4.2.2" and couldn't find a guide that worked...
I'm using the unlocked model that I ordered right from HTC and I did the "Check Updates" thing and it couldn't find any more updates. So I'm stuck on 4.2.2.
I'm not looking to unlock the bootloader or rooting right now, just in case i have to get it replaced.
Can anyone provide helpful insight into my problem?
Only reply with helpful tips... don't troll me.
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there is NO RUU for 4.2.2, you either have to install 4.2 and wait for update
or flash a 4.2.2 based ROM, like ARHD 12.2

Interesting conversation with Samsung rep

So basically I'll be trying this out tomorrow.
Getting Samsung to put a t-mobile rom on my ATT S5 (and maybe even unlock a bootloader in the process?)
This rep is either wholly confused or a nice guy :good: haha anyway,
some hope is better than none.
Chat transcript:
"info: Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Marlin'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.
info: Your Issue ID for this chat is (redacted fools)
Marlin: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hey I'm just wondering why the att and verizon galaxy s5 is denied root access while all other variants we're allowed it?
Visitor: Most of what I use my phone for requires root access and now I'm stuck with this ATT paperweight
Visitor: were*
Marlin: I understand that you want to root your device. Correct?
Visitor: I'd prefer to use a stock google rom
Visitor: but seen as that isn't possible
Visitor: yes
Marlin: Thank you for confirming.
Marlin: Samsung does not recommend rooting the device as it affects the device performance and also void the warranty.
Visitor: But they supported it for the other variants
Visitor: just not att and verizon
Visitor: Samsung specifically blocked root on ATT and Verizon and did not implement that block on any other variant
Visitor: If I had a t-mobile S5 I wouldn't be talking to you right now
Marlin: I am sorry; the features and security settings on the device are carrier specific. The devices are manufactured depending on the carrier requirements.
Marlin: The features on the device would vary from carrier to carrier.
Visitor: But having root access is hardly a feature of the phone
Visitor: What you're saying is Verizon and ATT specifically requested that their variants of the S5 were not allowed to have root access
Marlin: Yes, on few devices the bootloader is locked from the carrier.
Visitor: So lets say I change my carrier to t-mobile but still have this ATT firmware
Visitor: would samsung be able to put a tmobile firmware on my phone for use with the tmobile specific apps
Visitor: an official one
Visitor: without root etc
Marlin: Yes, you are correct. Even if you change the carrier to T-mobile, the device would have ATT firmware as the device is initially released from ATT.
Marlin: If you change the carrier, the bootloader on the device will be unlocked. (Uhhhhhhwhat?)
Visitor: My phone is SIM-unlocked. I have used my sisters tmobile sim card in this phone (lie lol)
Visitor: it certainly didnt change anything to do with the bootloader
Visitor: Lets say I go to a samsung care place in best buy would they be able to put the official tmobile firmware on my phone
Marlin: Yes, you can get the firmware changed at Samsung experience shop at best buy.
Visitor: Thank you very much."
Either way, it really doesn't change anything. Even if they flashed a new ROM/modem (which I doubt they would do anyway) what would be the purpose? You might as well just swap it for the T-mobile model then, since it would be the exact same thing.
Negative. Bestbuy's Samsung Kiosk does not have the ability to change the bootloader of the device. The locked bootloader is tied to the hardware itself (Qfuse) and not just a firmware based lock, so unless they plan on changing the motherboard...
scott14719 said:
Negative. Bestbuy's Samsung Kiosk does not have the ability to change the bootloader of the device. The locked bootloader is tied to the hardware itself (Qfuse) and not just a firmware based lock, so unless they plan on changing the motherboard...
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It's their device if anyone could unlock the bootloader I'd put my money on samsung
edit- The built in hardware restrictions that prevent exploits may not apply given they're not using at all the same tools as the public to modify the phone.
scott14719 said:
Negative. Bestbuy's Samsung Kiosk does not have the ability to change the bootloader of the device. The locked bootloader is tied to the hardware itself (Qfuse) and not just a firmware based lock, so unless they plan on changing the motherboard...
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I kinda disagree with that, because I had s4 the official release, with MDL firmware, rooted and kept that bootloader and was able to flash any roms I wanted even international roms and would flash appropriate kernels and add att apns, if I would have taken the OTA MF3, firmware my bootloader would have been locked, and I know threw Odin you can flash bootloaders, so I've been wondering if anyone has tried to take the official tmobile .tar file and use Odin to flash it on an att phone, if that worked and could root all you would have to do is flash att modem and add att apn, but I would figure someone has tried this?maybe I'm totally wrong but seems logical.
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And it can't be hardware Samsung sends phones to carriers they then lock them down and add there bloat.they don't change motherboards
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djmouse said:
I kinda disagree with that, because I had s4 the official release, with MDL firmware, rooted and kept that bootloader and was able to flash any roms I wanted even international roms and would flash appropriate kernels and add att apns, if I would have taken the OTA MF3, firmware my bootloader would have been locked, and I know threw Odin you can flash bootloaders, so I've been wondering if anyone has tried to take the official tmobile .tar file and use Odin to flash it on an att phone, if that worked and could root all you would have to do is flash att modem and add att apn, but I would figure someone has tried this?maybe I'm totally wrong but seems logical.
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You can disagree all day, but it's still not possible. MDL firmware used an exploit (LOKI) to bypass the chain of trust. In no way was the bootloader unlocked or exchanged. If you look at my signature, you will see that is what I have now. The only way it was possible was via exploit, which was patched in the MF3 firmware update and beyond. As of now, another exploit like LOKI has not been found ( and may not exist).
ODIN can not flash firmware on phones with bootloaders that have been blown Q-fuses...the count can only implement up.
There has been extensive research and testing done about all of this already. Extremely talented Developers have tried every way known (as of yet) to exchange firmwares on different branded phones with locked bootloaders with the firmware of phones that have unlocked bootloader. A good example is the work put into trying to put the GE edition firmware (and unlocked bootloader) onto the AT&T and Verizon S4s...it just couldn't happen.
Please take some time to review the various bootloader threads about the locked bootloaders on the S3s, S4s, etc... Adam Outler has some interesting and technical threads with a lot of information.
Maybe something will be found in the future, but it hasn't been found yet, and Bestbuys definitely doesn't have it.
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Alarand said:
It's their device if anyone could unlock the bootloader I'd put my money on samsung
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I'm fully aware of the tools they use and they cannot unlock bootloaders.
PHP:
Alarand said:
So basically I'll be trying this out tomorrow.
Getting Samsung to put a t-mobile rom on my ATT S5 (and maybe even unlock a bootloader in the process?)
This rep is either wholly confused or a nice guy :good: haha anyway,
some hope is better than none.
Chat transcript:
"info: Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Marlin'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.
info: Your Issue ID for this chat is (redacted fools)
Marlin: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hey I'm just wondering why the att and verizon galaxy s5 is denied root access while all other variants we're allowed it?
Visitor: Most of what I use my phone for requires root access and now I'm stuck with this ATT paperweight
Visitor: were*
Marlin: I understand that you want to root your device. Correct?
Visitor: I'd prefer to use a stock google rom
Visitor: but seen as that isn't possible
Visitor: yes
Marlin: Thank you for confirming.
Marlin: Samsung does not recommend rooting the device as it affects the device performance and also void the warranty.
Visitor: But they supported it for the other variants
Visitor: just not att and verizon
Visitor: Samsung specifically blocked root on ATT and Verizon and did not implement that block on any other variant
Visitor: If I had a t-mobile S5 I wouldn't be talking to you right now
Marlin: I am sorry; the features and security settings on the device are carrier specific. The devices are manufactured depending on the carrier requirements.
Marlin: The features on the device would vary from carrier to carrier.
Visitor: But having root access is hardly a feature of the phone
Visitor: What you're saying is Verizon and ATT specifically requested that their variants of the S5 were not allowed to have root access
Marlin: Yes, on few devices the bootloader is locked from the carrier.
Visitor: So lets say I change my carrier to t-mobile but still have this ATT firmware
Visitor: would samsung be able to put a tmobile firmware on my phone for use with the tmobile specific apps
Visitor: an official one
Visitor: without root etc
Marlin: Yes, you are correct. Even if you change the carrier to T-mobile, the device would have ATT firmware as the device is initially released from ATT.
Marlin: If you change the carrier, the bootloader on the device will be unlocked. (Uhhhhhhwhat?)
Visitor: My phone is SIM-unlocked. I have used my sisters tmobile sim card in this phone (lie lol)
Visitor: it certainly didnt change anything to do with the bootloader
Visitor: Lets say I go to a samsung care place in best buy would they be able to put the official tmobile firmware on my phone
Marlin: Yes, you can get the firmware changed at Samsung experience shop at best buy.
Visitor: Thank you very much."
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you're linking two affirmative answers to two different questions.
yes, if you switched carriers to t mobile you could get a device with an unlocked boot loader.
yes, you can probably get best buy to flash t mobile firmware to your phone. odds are you could do it yourself.
the two are not the same...
I've read alot of Adams threads but not much on the s5, what has been attempted and what has not, is there a thread on that? And so your saying it's impossible to put the tmobile firmware on an att phone threw Odin or stock recovery?
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Or trying when running ART when phone is in custom st a t us?
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djmouse said:
I've read alot of Adams threads but not much on the s5, what has been attempted and what has not, is there a thread on that? And so your saying it's impossible to put the tmobile firmware on an att phone threw Odin or stock recovery?
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Or trying when running ART when phone is in custom st a t us?
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I believe people have tried it using odin which is why I wanted to get samsung to do it so if they brick my phone in the process they're liable
djmouse said:
I've read alot of Adams threads but not much on the s5, what has been attempted and what has not, is there a thread on that? And so your saying it's impossible to put the tmobile firmware on an att phone threw Odin or stock recovery?
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Or trying when running ART when phone is in custom st a t us?
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Q-fuses are on the S5 too, just look at the aboot.
T-mobile firmware cannot be put on an AT&T phone (S4 /S5) with a locked Bootloader with the exception of LOKI (MDL) because the T-Mobile Kernel cannot be flashed to the phone. Not even Safestrap (again S4) can flash kernels. It has been rumored for a long time now that Hashcode has been working on a form of Kexec for the AT&T Samsung phones, but it hasn't happened yet.
The S5s have just come out, but the tech Samsung uses to lock the bootloaders hasn't changed much...and it is working well.
Alarand said:
I believe people have tried it using odin which is why I wanted to get samsung to do it so if they brick my phone in the process they're liable
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Well please keep us posted on what happens, try to take mental notes on what they try if you can , I'm curious how they will go about It if they even do, I still have a hard time beliving Samsung at best buy would even attempt such a thing, they barley could answer simple questions I've had.
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idk there's not much difference in the firmware and SE security
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djmouse said:
Well please keep us posted on what happens, try to take mental notes on what they try if you can , I'm curious how they will go about It if they even do, I still have a hard time beliving Samsung at best buy would even attempt such a thing, they barley could answer simple questions I've had.
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Yeah I doubt they will either honestly but I'm frustrated enough to waste a drive to that blue shirted hell hole
Is their a development thread for this phone, im familiar with other qualcom devices and even some on the qfuses.
I work at the SES in Best Buy, and I can tell you there is nothing we can do. The things we use are the same that you all have access to. I don't even think we could flash a different carrier's firmware if we wanted to, it'll brick the device.. Definitely cannot unlock the bootloader, as stated above by others.
And to be honest OP, I wouldn't go around trying to get them to flash a different firmware if I were you. Just trying to save you some headache here. Because if they do brick the device, it'll be a hassle.
If the employee was trained properly, then they won't even attempt to flash a different carrier's firmware.
Schultz_91 said:
I work at the SES in Best Buy, and I can tell you there is nothing we can do. The things we use are the same that you all have access to. I don't even think we could flash a different carrier's firmware if we wanted to, it'll brick the device.. Definitely cannot unlock the bootloader, as stated above by others.
And to be honest OP, I wouldn't go around trying to get them to flash a different firmware if I were you. Just trying to save you some headache here. Because if they do brick the device, it'll be a hassle.
If the employee was trained properly, then they won't even attempt to flash a different carrier's firmware.
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Fair enough thanks for clarifying, the samsung support employees do seem hopelessly inept.
It's not really surprising as much as it is disappointing but yeah one less wasted drive
omgbossis21 said:
Is their a development thread for this phone, im familiar with other qualcom devices and even some on the qfuses.
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There is a development thread for this phone, but since there is no root or exploit yet there are no posts in the development thread yet, if you check t mobiles forum there are development threads with posts, and roms and such.
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Nice try though!
scott14719 said:
Negative. Bestbuy's Samsung Kiosk does not have the ability to change the bootloader of the device. The locked bootloader is tied to the hardware itself (Qfuse) and not just a firmware based lock, so unless they plan on changing the motherboard...
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well unfortunately thats not how it works, the MBL is flashable via odin (or any other device mfg for that matter), in fact if you download any of the samsung official firmwares out there you will see that most (Not all but most) will include a MBL file as well as the system, cache, CSC and other partitions.
Boot Loaders are flashable and do not require system board replacements, if they did no device made would ever (and I meen EVER) have the bootloader unlocked by ANY exploit or other means.
cstayton said:
well unfortunately thats not how it works, the MBL is flashable via odin (or any other device mfg for that matter), in fact if you download any of the samsung official firmwares out there you will see that most (Not all but most) will include a MBL file as well as the system, cache, CSC and other partitions.
Boot Loaders are flashable and do not require system board replacements, if they did no device made would ever (and I meen EVER) have the bootloader unlocked by ANY exploit or other means.
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Give it a try and find out. I guess you think all of the work already done towards this (and there has been a lot) is all wrong? I tell you what, get an S4 with MK2 firmware on it and try to flash MDL onto it or even T-mobile firmware onto it via ODIN and then make sure you come back and report how wrong I am.

Retail Germany stock rom to sprint moto x

hey guys can i flash the retail germany stock rom to a sprint moto x phone?
thx
nexuspur said:
hey guys can i flash the retail germany stock rom to a sprint moto x phone?
thx
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You can....but its not recommended, and if you do it you are doing it at your own risk.
Also keep in mind that if you update the "Germany ROM" to 4.4.4, you can NEVER go back to the Sprint ROM (safely, without great risk of bricking) until Sprint releases their FULL 4.4.4 SBF. Otherwise you would be "downgrading" which is well documented to put you at an extreme risk of bricking.
Good Luck :good:
samwathegreat said:
You can....but its not recommended, and if you do it you are doing it at your own risk.
Also keep in mind that if you update the "Germany ROM" to 4.4.4, you can NEVER go back to the Sprint ROM (safely, without great risk of bricking) until Sprint releases their FULL 4.4.4 SBF. Otherwise you would be "downgrading" which is well documented to put you at an extreme risk of bricking.
Good Luck :good:
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another question
i have bought a sprint phone, im living in germany. if i flash the germany retail rom can i still use your "sim-crack"?
and btw thx for fast reply
nexuspur said:
another question
i have bought a sprint phone, im living in germany. if i flash the germany retail rom can i still use your "sim-crack"?
and btw thx for fast reply
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Yes. It should work just fine for you, but I don't support anything other than the stock sprint rom with my Sim-Crack.
You might TRY this, first: When you flash the 4.4.2 Germany ROM, depending on whether you are using RSD-Lite or Manual Method either:
1. If using RSD Lite, unzip the SBF for the germany rom, and edit the XML file with Notepad or similar. Erase the 2 lines containing "erase modemst1" and "erase modemst2"
2. If using the manual method, simply skip the two commands "fastboot erase modemst1" and "fastboot erase modemst2".
If you do that, the Sim-Crack should persist and you shouldn't have to re-do the entire procedure after you change ROMS.
samwathegreat said:
Yes. It should work just fine for you, but I don't support anything other than the stock sprint rom with my Sim-Crack.
You might TRY this, first: When you flash the 4.4.2 Germany ROM, depending on whether you are using RSD-Lite or Manual Method either:
1. If using RSD Lite, unzip the SBF for the germany rom, and edit the XML file with Notepad or similar. Erase the 2 lines containing "erase modemst1" and "erase modemst2"
2. If using the manual method, simply skip the two commands "fastboot erase modemst1" and "fastboot erase modemst2".
If you do that, the Sim-Crack should persist and you shouldn't have to re-do the entire procedure after you change ROMS.
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thank you so much!
German Stock Rom for XT1053 running 4.4.3
Hello,
I just registered to the forums today. Have been lurking for a while but since I finally received my Moto X DE today I have a few questions.
*I hope this won't be regarded as hijacking this thread, i just want to avoid opening a new thread for something that might have been posted already.*
My XT1053 is the US GSM Verison, it has been imported. Therefore it german is no language option in the currently installed ROM.
To be able to use touch control etc. in an effective way (english language per se is not the problem) i want to flash a german Stock ROM.
Best suited one i found on sbf-droid is Android 4.4.2 Blur_Version.163.44.2.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. But i read often that downgrading may make you run into serious issues, even bricking the device.
I also want to be able to receive the german OTA update to 4.4.4 after flashing to 4.4.2, if that is possible. If that is not possible i would even tend to stay on the US 4.4.3 until there is a flashable 4.4.4 german retail on sbf-droid.
This is the current info on my ROM etc.:
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Right now everything is running fine with the ROM, except the language issue. I even have 4G. Also i feel no need to root the device right now because I first want to see how it suits me as it is.
Further i read that SafeStrap is able to install the ROM in a new partition. Maybe this is the most secure way to achieve my goal and havng the chance to easily revert if it goes wrong?
So i already searched for a anser to my question but, honestly, all the information i gathered here somehow got mixed up in my head. Now i would feel way better if someone had a heart to give me a quick advice or just a link to the right method.
[TL;DR:] I have a US GSM XT1053 that is totally untouched and running stock 4.4.3 (212.44.21.ghost_row.Retail.en.US).
I want to install a german retail ROM with the ability to update to german 4.4.4 easily and asap.
"Edit: Dang...i just realized that this would have fitted way better into THIS THREAD. sry*
FAILix said:
Hello,
I just registered to the forums today. Have been lurking for a while but since I finally received my Moto X DE today I have a few questions.
*I hope this won't be regarded as hijacking this thread, i just want to avoid opening a new thread for something that has been posted already.*
My XT1053 is the US GSM Verison, it has been imported. Therefore it german is no language option in the currently installed ROM.
To be able to use touch control etc. in an effective way (english language per se is not the problem) i want to flash a german Stock ROM.
Best suited one i found on sbf-droid is Android 4.4.2 Blur_Version.163.44.2.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. But i read often that downgrading may make you run into serious issues, even bricking the device.
I also want to be able to receive the german OTA update to 4.4.4 after flashing to 4.4.2, if that is possible. If that is not possible i would even tend to stay on the US 4.4.3 until there is a flashable 4.4.4 german retail on sbf-droid.
This is the current info on my ROM etc.:
Right now everything is running fine with the ROM, except the language issue. I even have 4G. Also i feel no need to root the device right now because I first want to see how it suits me as it is.
Further i read that SafeStrap is able to install the ROM in a new partition. Maybe this is the most secure way to achieve my goal and havng the chance to easily revert if it goes wrong?
So i already searched for a anser to my question but, honestly, all the information i gathered here somehow got mixed up in my head. Now i would feel way better if someone had a heart to give me a quick advice or just a link to the right method.
[TL;DR:] I have a US GSM XT1053 that is totally untouched and running stock 4.4.3 (212.44.21.ghost_row.Retail.en.US).
I want to install a german retail ROM with the ability to update to german 4.4.4 easily and asap.
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You need to wait until the full 4.4.4 German SBF is available to do this without risk of bricking.
The problem is that you are already on 4.4.3 -- if your phone were on 4.4.2 or earlier, it would not be an issue since you would not be downgrading.
You need to hang tight until the 4.4.4 leaked german sbf is released. If you decide to attempt to downgrade, you are doing it at your own risk and may very well end up with a brick.
Good Luck.
samwathegreat said:
You need to wait until the full 4.4.4 German SBF is available to do this without risk of bricking.
The problem is that you are already on 4.4.3 -- if your phone were on 4.4.2 or earlier, it would not be an issue since you would not be downgrading.
You need to hang tight until the 4.4.4 leaked german sbf is released. If you decide to attempt to downgrade, you are doing it at your own risk and may very well end up with a brick.
Good Luck.
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Ok, thank you for the confirmation! So i will just sit tight for the next weeks and F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 on sbf-droid constantly
When 4.4.4 shows up there, i might return to this thread for details...
Hello,
after sitting in my cave, waiting for weeks i am back.
Since yesterday i am getting the US 4.4.4 update offered and it is beginning to annoy me.
Therefore i checked again if there is a german 4.4.4 sbf available.
I found this german 4.4.4 sbf (XT1052_RETAIL-DE_4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_54_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml.zip) on a filefacctory moto X firmware website that i cannot link due to restrictions.
Is it safe to flash it on my US XT1053 that is currently running completely stock (EXCEPT THAT I SWITCHED TO ART RUNTIME!!!) 212.44.21.ghost_row.Retail.en.US?
Also i currently have LTE with my phone in germany, so it would be nice to keep it that way
.
Does anyone have any tips on how to do it the most secure and easy way? Maybe also doing some sort of backup?
Ok,
i just decided to take the US 4.4.4 OTA for now. I don't really miss german, except for the Touchless Control. I will now stick to the US Version until the german Android L SBF is available. I just dont like to wipe the Phone now and then wipe it again in a month or so when Adndroid L is available.

How do I root and install cm 14.1

I am very confused, I would like someone to either explain to me how to root personally or just give me links that are good cause I really can't find anything on how to root.
Sags224 said:
I am very confused, I would like someone to either explain to me how to root personally or just give me links that are good cause I really can't find anything on how to root.
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Really? Then you are not looking very hard. One of the top topics in General:
[GUIDE] How to unlock your bootloader, install TWRP and gain root access
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-install-t3292684
It's right above your question. How can you not see it?
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ChazzMatt said:
Really? Then you are not looking very hard. One of the top topics in General:
[GUIDE] How to unlock your bootloader, install TWRP and gain root access
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-install-t3292684
It's right above your question. How can you not see it?
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Oh I'm an idiot lol, I have android 6 so do you think flashing the 5.1 stock firmware will work and then I can continue with that guide?
Sags224 said:
Oh I'm an idiot lol, I have android 6 so do you think flashing the 5.1 stock firmware will work and then I can continue with that guide?
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No. Sorry -- if you updated to Marshmallow before unlocking your bootloader you are out of luck. You can't downgrade bootloader. If you could that would be great -- because you could downgrade, use Sunshine and unlock your bootloader.
Sunshine for Droid Turbo XT1254 only works on SU4TL-44 and SU4TL-49, both are Lolllipop firmware.
ChazzMatt said:
No. Sorry -- if you updated to Marshmallow before unlocking your bootloader you are out of luck. You can't downgrade bootloader. If you could Sunshine would LOVE that, because you could downgrade, use Sunshine and unlock your bootloader.
Sunshine for Droid Turbo XT1254 only works on SU4TL-44 and SU4TL-49, both are Lolllipop firmware.
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Oh so I have to wait? I didn't download the update OTA if that makes a difference (I'd assume it won't) I just flashed the firmware when it was released cause I was too impatient to wait. Thanks for the help! And putting up with my blindness lol
Sags224 said:
Oh so I have to wait? I didn't download the update OTA if that makes a difference (I'd assume it won't) I just flashed the firmware when it was released cause I was too impatient to wait. Thanks for the help! And putting up with my blindness lol
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This was one of my many posts on the subject, when people wanted to flash the update. We did warn everybody to unlock their bootloaders first.
I'm sorry, but you are out of luck, unless Sunshine finds another exploit. They have said they are no longer actively looking for this model, since they already provided two exploits that worked for over a year (November 2015 - December 2016). This was the time period when SU4TL-44 was cracked until Marshmallow was released. And people can still unlock their bootloaders even now, as long as they didn't update to Marshmallow.
10th January 2017, 11:00 AM
[FXZ] Official Stock Firmware 6.0.1 MCG24.251-5
ChazzMatt said:
No, it won't lock your bootloader.
If your bootloader is locked and you flash a new updated bootloader, your phone will remain locked.
If your bootloader is unlocked and you flash a new updated bootloader, then your phone will remain unlocked.
That's why we tell people to unlock their bootloaders BEFORE flashing this Marshmallow update. It's (probably) the last chance they will have -- unless Sunshine team comes up with a new trick in the future.
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Sags224 said:
Oh so I have to wait? I didn't download the update OTA if that makes a difference (I'd assume it won't) I just flashed the firmware when it was released cause I was too impatient to wait. Thanks for the help! And putting up with my blindness lol
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You're in luck. This weekend Sunshine announced they can now unlock Verizon Marshmallow 6.0.1 bootloader on the Droid Turbo XT1254.
What a difference a couple of days make.
ChazzMatt said:
You're in luck. This weekend Sunshine announced they can now unlock Verizon Marshmallow 6.0.1 bootloader on the Droid Turbo XT1254.
What a difference a couple of days make.
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Oh sweet! Just wish they didn't charge 25 dollars.... Just curious is the 25 dollars for every device you own or for one device? Cause if it for every device then its worth it but if only per device it's not worth it IMO.
Sags224 said:
Oh sweet! Just wish they didn't charge 25 dollars.... Just curious is the 25 dollars for every device you own or for one device? Cause if it for every device then its worth it but if only per device it's not worth it IMO.
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How many Droid Turbos XT1254 do you own?
All the other Quarks have free bootloader unlock from Motorola. Only Verizon demands their phone stay locked down. So, Sunshine is a very useful service for those people who use Verizon and buy their phones from Verizon. The XT1250 is identical in every way to the Droid Turbo and runs on Verizon just like a Verizon phone, even the same FCC ID -- and bootloader can be easily unlocked for free. But people take the easy way and buy Verizon locked down phones.
The Sunshine devs put a lot of effort into finding/making unlock exploits. Or you can just keep your bootloader phone locked down. This is the third time they have found an exploit for this phone after Verizon released updates and people foolishly took the updates before unlocking their bootloaders.
ChazzMatt said:
How many Droid Turbos XT1254 do you own?
All the other Quarks have free bootloader unlock from Motorola. Only Verizon demands their phone stay locked down. So, Sunshine is a very useful service for those people who use Verizon and buy their phones from Verizon. The XT1250 is identical in every way to the Droid Turbo and runs on Verizon just like a Verizon phone, even the same FCC ID -- and bootloader can be easily unlocked for free. But people take the easy way and buy Verizon locked down phones.
The Sunshine devs put a lot of effort into finding/making unlock exploits. Or you can just keep your bootloader phone locked down. This is the third time they have found an exploit for this phone after Verizon released updates and people foolishly took the updates before unlocking their bootloaders.
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Oh ok I only own one lol but I was thinking id need to buy it again for every phone I get (thinking of getting note 8 or pixel 2)
Sags224 said:
Oh ok I only own one lol but I was thinking id need to buy it again for every phone I get (thinking of getting note 8 or pixel 2)
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We license it per phone, as there is no safe way to license per user. We already have people try to share the one time use license codes, unfortunately we cant find a way to license per person.
sunshine will not support note 8 nor next pixel.
Sags224 said:
Oh ok I only own one lol but I was thinking id need to buy it again for every phone I get
(thinking of getting note 8 or pixel 2)
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PIXEL 2
Well, when it's released you can buy Pixel 2 straight from Google, and it will run on Verizon AND you can unlock the bootloader. VERY much like how the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx = XT1254 Droid Turbo, but has easily unlocked bootloader and runs on Verizon.
Note 8
Many months from being released. Sunshine doesn't have an exploit for it yet. Cross that bridge when you come to it. You might decide you like the Pixel 2 better and you won't need Sunshine again.
ChazzMatt said:
PIXEL 2
Well, when it's released you can buy Pixel 2 straight from Google, and it will run on Verizon AND you can unlock the bootloader. VERY much like how the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx = XT1254 Droid Turbo, but has easily unlocked bootloader and runs on Verizon.
Note 8
Many months from being released. Sunshine doesn't have an exploit for it yet. Cross that bridge when you come to it. You might decide you like the Pixel 2 better and you won't need Sunshine again.
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I'm gonna be buying it tonight, so I need this to flash a rom and to root right?
jcase said:
We license it per phone, as there is no safe way to license per user. We already have people try to share the one time use license codes, unfortunately we cant find a way to license per person.
sunshine will not support note 8 nor next pixel.
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Thank you I will be buying it tonight but I need unlocked boot loader for root and/or to flash a rom right?
Sags224 said:
Thank you I will be buying it tonight but I need unlocked boot loader for root and/or to flash a rom right?
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Yes, unlock with sunshine, then flash twrp with fastboot, then supersu or your rom with twrp
jcase said:
Yes, unlock with sunshine, then flash twrp with fastboot, then supersu or your rom with twrp
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My dad is so annoying cause he doesnt wanna put his paypal pass through the phone and he doesnt wanna send money to a random paypal account even though many people have done it, fml.
Sags224 said:
My dad is so annoying cause he doesnt wanna put his paypal pass through the phone and he doesnt wanna send money to a random paypal account even though many people have done it, fml.
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Visit our website, submit a support ticket.
jcase said:
Visit our website, submit a support ticket.
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Idk how much of a difference that'll make but thanks for the reply, I'll try to convince him.
jcase said:
Visit our website, submit a support ticket.
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I really don't think my dad will do it. he's paranoid about things like this. Is there anything I can send you in exchange for sunshine? Like I guess I could go out and buy a gift card of some sort and send it to you.
Sags224 said:
I really don't think my dad will do it. he's paranoid about things like this. Is there anything I can send you in exchange for sunshine? Like I guess I could go out and buy a gift card of some sort and send it to you.
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Please submit at ticket: http://therootninja.zendesk.com

Flashing generic UK firmware from O2 - complete n00b request

Hi,
I'm in the UK; have an Xperia 1 II from O2. Bought outright and using my EE sim in the phone. I am investigating the possibility of flashing generic UK firmware (i.e. to match the firmware on the phones sold direct from Sony) so that EE wifi calling hopefully starts to work. Phone is unlocked.
I've never flashed a phone before and am trying to figure out how it works.
My understanding is:
1. can obtain firmware via Xperifirm
2. can flash that firmware using Flashtool
3. don't need to unlock bootloader to flash new firmware.
My questions are:
4. is it as simple as the above? Download my selected firmware and then flash using Flashtool?
5. is Flashtool a third party software? I see the Sony dev site also offers a flash tool called Emma. I have also seen references to a separate Newflasher and the need for an fsc script
6. how do I confirm which firmware is which? I presume I would be looking to use the 'Customized UK' firmware listed in Xperifirm, CDA 1321-7192 / 58.0.A.3.31 / R8A.
Thanks, appreciate any info.
Cheers,
Michael
I posted how I did it here and in this simpler guide here.
Your understandings are correct. FlashTool includes XperiFirm.
4. Yes, though you will have to do a couple of additional steps because the FlashTool devices database has not been updated with the .fsc for the phone yet.
5. Yes, FlashTool is 3rd party software and allows you to change Customization. Emma is only for unlocked bootloaders from what I remember. You will need to also download the .fsc and .properties files I provided and rename the .fsc file.
6. Yes, 'Customized UK' from XperiFirm is what you want.
On Windows you will need to install the Flashmode and Fastboot drivers in the Flashtool\drivers directory to communicate with your phone. Follow the instructions here as you need to start Windows with driver signature enforcement disabled to do this.
Once you have that all set up, downloaded the firmware and FlashTool has processed the downloaded firmware, you will be ready to flash. Click Flash and choose Flash Mode, then set it up as in my first link - this will wipe all data on the phone.
When flashing, an error of "those files are not in the fsc script: persist, reset-non-secure-adb" is entirely normal. When flashing has finished successfully it will say "synced".
Thanks heaps - I'll have a go.
O2 advised me the phone is unbranded and unlocked as if bought direct from Sony is this incorrect ??
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mcawle said:
Hi,
I'm in the UK; have an Xperia 1 II from O2. Bought outright and using my EE sim in the phone. I am investigating the possibility of flashing generic UK firmware (i.e. to match the firmware on the phones sold direct from Sony) so that EE wifi calling hopefully starts to work. Phone is unlocked.
I've never flashed a phone before and am trying to figure out how it works.
My understanding is:
1. can obtain firmware via Xperifirm
2. can flash that firmware using Flashtool
3. don't need to unlock bootloader to flash new firmware.
My questions are:
4. is it as simple as the above? Download my selected firmware and then flash using Flashtool?
5. is Flashtool a third party software? I see the Sony dev site also offers a flash tool called Emma. I have also seen references to a separate Newflasher and the need for an fsc script
6. how do I confirm which firmware is which? I presume I would be looking to use the 'Customized UK' firmware listed in Xperifirm, CDA 1321-7192 / 58.0.A.3.31 / R8A.
Thanks, appreciate any info.
Cheers,
Michael
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I have bought mine on o2 also and will be using on three uk .. apart from wifi ifoes everything else function OK without o2 sim ?
To be honest I'm torn between cancelling o2 as they told me the phone was unlocked and unbranded and getting a s20 plus
Thanks in advance Mike
Hi,
It has an O2 app preinstalled. No branding or startup stuff. Everything is fine except no WiFi calling visible for EE, which I expected. I did talk to O2 a bit beforehand and they said the firmware would be specific but nothing else. It is unlocked, my EE SIM is working fine aside from WiFi calling as above.
mcawle said:
Hi,
It has an O2 app preinstalled. No branding or startup stuff. Everything is fine except no WiFi calling visible for EE, which I expected. I did talk to O2 a bit beforehand and they said the firmware would be specific but nothing else. It is unlocked, my EE SIM is working fine aside from WiFi calling as above.
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I doubt you will get VoLTE/4G calling working on EE or 3 with the O2 firmware either. (At least it didn't work for me with a Vodafone SIM). To me VoLTE is much more important than WiFi calling as without VoLTE you cannot make a phone call on 4G and instead have to also have a connection to a 3G or 2G network to make a call.
Flashing the Customized UK firmware should fix this.
brocnical said:
I doubt you will get VoLTE/4G calling working on EE or 3 with the O2 firmware either. (At least it didn't work for me with a Vodafone SIM). To me VoLTE is much more important than WiFi calling as without VoLTE you cannot make a phone call on 4G and instead have to also have a connection to a 3G or 2G network to make a call.
Flashing the Customized UK firmware should fix this.
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Yes exactly. WiFi calling not working on EE out of the box. Just need to take the time and get brave enough to do it!
Did you flash your Xperia 1ii? I have the same, O2 phone with EE sim , no wifi calling but everything else OK. I though it was working before the last Sony update but maybe it wasn't. I notice the mobile signal shows LTE but when I put an O2 sim in it says 4G. I didn't realise it was a firmware issue so looking at doing this. I need wifi calling at the back of my house as the mobile signal is very weak.
libboid said:
Did you flash your Xperia 1ii? I have the same, O2 phone with EE sim , no wifi calling but everything else OK. I though it was working before the last Sony update but maybe it wasn't. I notice the mobile signal shows LTE but when I put an O2 sim in it says 4G. I didn't realise it was a firmware issue so looking at doing this. I need wifi calling at the back of my house as the mobile signal is very weak.
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Hi, yes I did using this wonderful thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-1-II/how-to/successfully-flashed-customization-t4119707
Read it first as there can be some scary moments depending on which usb-c cable you use to connect the phone to the pc (don't use the Sony one) but it all works if you follow the instructions and I now have WiFi calling over EE.
mcawle said:
Hi, yes I did using this wonderful thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-1-II/how-to/successfully-flashed-customization-t4119707
Read it first as there can be some scary moments depending on which usb-c cable you use to connect the phone to the pc (don't use the Sony one) but it all works if you follow the instructions and I now have WiFi calling over EE.
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot over the weekend.
As an aside, if you got it from O2, did you get your 'free' headphones?
libboid said:
Thanks. I'll give that a shot over the weekend.
As an aside, if you got it from O2, did you get your 'free' headphones?
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Good luck!
And yes I did get the headphones, a couple weeks back
Hi
I'm in same situation. Can you please confirm that you can change the mobile bands.
Ie. You can select it to change the preferred network type?
Like in pic below?
Thanks
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Does this give you volte as well, or will it just give WiFi calling?
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Does this give you volte as well, or will it just give WiFi calling?
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I need to do this then!
Chances of killing phone completely though.....?
Nil
Cheers!
mcawle said:
Good luck!
And yes I did get the headphones, a couple weeks back
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I managed to flash to stock UK and now have Wi-Fi calling on EE - but - I have lost the ability to edit the APN. When I hotspot some apps get confused with IPv6 so I delete that from the EE APN but cant do it now I have flashed. Also lost LTE option. Just generic 5G/4G/3G/2G. Can you edit your APN and do you have LTE?
As for the headphones, good for you - still waiting for mine
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dvdman2k said:
Hi
I'm in same situation. Can you please confirm that you can change the mobile bands.
Ie. You can select it to change the preferred network type?
Like in pic below?
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After flashing from O2 firmware to stock UK firmware I only have the one option of 5G/4G/3G/2G
Noob question but does flashing the firmware impact using NFC payments and Google pay?
Also does anyone know if/have experience of, the Hong Kong version (dual SIM), being able to use VOLTE/WiFi calling here in the UK? I need a dual SIM phone ideally but I read somewhere that flashing the dual SIM with a UK firmware will disable the second sim slot (which makes sense to me).
Thank you!
LTE is 4G isn't it. Does O2 just put LTE in their firmware rather than 4G?

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