[Q] Quick Charge vs. Ordinary Charging cable? - Sprint HTC One (M8)

I understand the M8 supports Quick Charge 1.0 with the supplied Charger/Cable (1.5A)
Not sure if any of you have the same issue as I do, however the cable supplied in more recent batches of phones are shorter. The last HTC Phone I had which came with a longer cable is my original Evo 4G.
I do have a Black Berry cable I use which is nice and long. Do you guys think the cable itself can hinder charging capabilities of Quick Charge? Are the Quick Charge cables that come with the phone specifically manufactured to work with Quick Charge?

no, the quickcharge is solely reliant on the output of the wall brick itself. unless the cable is broken any cable should do
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[Q] usb data cable - charging problem

when the usb cable connect to my laptop is charging my xt860 without any problem.
but in my car it's not (with the iphone it's charging perfectly)
any idea?
Whatever car charger your using is not supplying enough power to charge the phone. A lot lf laptops will have a continuous 5v (just enough to chage the phone). But the car charger prob only puts out 4v and the iphone is alright with that (charge really slow) but the phone is picky (won't charge at all). All I can say is try another car charger.
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ourtut said:
Whatever car charger your using is not supplying enough power to charge the phone. A lot lf laptops will have a continuous 5v (just enough to chage the phone). But the car charger prob only puts out 4v and the iphone is alright with that (charge really slow) but the phone is picky (won't charge at all). All I can say is try another car charger.
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thanks i will buy a new one
I grabbed a Motorola brand one off Amazon for $5 and have never had an issue. But any brand name microusb car charger should work as long as it puts out enough current.

[Q] Car charging at half speed?

Does anyone know why the One might behave differently on a car USB charger compared to a Galaxy S3?
I noticed my One was charging slowly or not at all when in the car. Using the power stat screen in the SystemPanelLite free version it shows the One is only connected at USB charge power, not "AC" power. However if I plug this same cable into my old Galaxy S3 it shows in SystemPanelLite that it is charging at full AC speed. I tried both the One and S3 default charging cables, no difference.
I'm using a car charger rated to put out enough amps for full speed charging, and it works great with the S3. With my One I tested it just plugging it into the charger that came with it (AC outlet, not in the car) and only then do I get full AC charging speed.
Anyone have ideas on how to get full AC charging speed on the One in the car? Any suggested car chargers confirmed to charge at full speed?
quick charge is disabled. you also need to make sure the charger is at least 1A @ 5V.
On previous HTC phones, I'm led to believe that the data pins on the USB connection are shorted inside the charger, and that's how it detects AC vs USB. It's not AC arriving at the phone of course, in reality it's 5VDC, with "AC" it draws 1A vs 0.5A for USB.
If the USB cable is not wired appropriately, the HTC One will slow charge so that it doesn't draw more than the USB standard 500 mA. Your charger needs to be wired accordingly so that the HTC One knows that the charger is capable of supplying more current, otherwise the device won't pull the extra current to fast charge. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844284 for details.
Benpope and rumball have correctly answered.
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Will this charger work with the HTC One @ 1A? http://shopamerica.htc.com/product/productpop.htm?prId=41645
Well at this point I'm looking for anyone who can confirm they have a car charger/cable combo working with the One that will charge at or near 1 amp.
I don't think my cable is at fault since I've tried multiple ones, including the AC one that came with the One.
Although my current car charger worked great with my GS3, I guess the One is more picky. So can anyone recommend one that will definitely do 1 amp with the One?
the data function on the car kit cable doesnt work as well...plugged into computer and charges but nothing else (to bad to, liked the length of the cord)
BenPope said:
On previous HTC phones, I'm led to believe that the data pins on the USB connection are shorted inside the charger, and that's how it detects AC vs USB. It's not AC arriving at the phone of course, in reality it's 5VDC, with "AC" it draws 1A vs 0.5A for USB.
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This is right, I had same issues with s3, resolved by buying a genuine Samsung charger. Before my Google maps drained more than it could charge. What's odd is that the s3 charges fine on his cable, unless different pins are shorted on an htc?
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This one will work with HTC One
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=246652&phone=246667
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paul_59 said:
This one will work with HTC One
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=246652&phone=246667
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Have you used it and confirmed it charges the One at "AC" speeds?

USB Fast Charger

Seeing as the M8 supports fast charging, but the charger in the box is the standard 5v/1amp charger, would anyone know if the new Google charger would work for fast charge?
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Charging_Accessory?id=nexus_charging_accessory
It's 9w/1.8amp output. I have one and was thinking of getting an M8 so it's something I could keep to use if I do get one
(If this should be in Q&A please move it, but thought it might be handy for anyone looking for a fast charger from a reputable brand should it work)
EddyOS said:
Seeing as the M8 supports fast charging, but the charger in the box is the standard 5v/1amp charger, would anyone know if the new Google charger would work for fast charge?
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Charging_Accessory?id=nexus_charging_accessory
It's 9w/1.8amp output. I have one and was thinking of getting an M8 so it's something I could keep to use if I do get one
(If this should be in Q&A please move it, but thought it might be handy for anyone looking for a fast charger from a reputable brand should it work)
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This is a great charger for our device and much cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OZMWUS/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
shojus said:
This is a great charger for our device and much cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OZMWUS/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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My M8 was getting very warm using this charger, is yours?
Not that I have noticed but I'll keep an eye out when I get mine back. It does charge everything I own quick as hell though.
They're supposed to be releasing a quick charge 2.0 compatible charger for our device soon that's supposedly is pretty good. I find my phone charges much faster than my DNA as that thing had a slow charge mode that was brutal.
I have a few red band charge only cables that charge the phone fairly quickly.
The charger that came with my htc M8 says 1.5A on the back of it. It charges the phone pretty fast compared to others I have used. I did try to use my samsung charger that is 2.0A but I noticed the phone got warm. Definitely not hot to the touch but enough for me to not really want to ust again and stick to the stock charger.
The charger that came in my box was 1.5A.
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The stock HTC charger is 1.5 amps, or at least the ones in the UK are.
While the phone can take 2 amp charge, by doing so you will heat the battery up much more on each charge, and this extra heat will reduce the charge cycles of the battery(life of the battery), not really the best thing to do on a phone that can't have it's battery replaced.
I've got a 2 amp charger for the car, as when I use that I tend to need power fast, but I have my phone mount on my aircon vent so the phone is kept very cool even if using google maps while fast charging at 2 amps.
How do you tell if a charger has Quick Charge or not?
Apparently the one that comes in the box with the HTC One M8 has Quick Charger 1.0 but I'm looking at the charger now and there is nothing on there to say that it has this feature
I would like to buy another one as a spare to put in a different location to charge without having to take my charger with it but I don't know how to tell if it has it or not before buying it without getting it and actually plugging it in and using it
M8 has quickcharge 2.0 but no 2.0 compliant chargers have been released, the stock charger uses quickcharge 1 technology, HTC is panning to release a qc 2.0 compiant charger later this year.
What's the difference between the Samsung 3.0
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Jr6278 said:
What's the difference between the Samsung 3.0
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What do you mean by Samsung 3.0 :S
You're not talking about USB 3.0 are you?
Then yes the Samsung Galaxy S5 does have USB 3.0
USB 3.0 is just a faster way to transfer data and as far as I'm aware the charging speeds are still the same standard speed
You do need to have a USB 3.0 cable and a supporting device (USB 3.0 port) to utilise it the faster transfer speed
BUT in saying that the Galaxy S5 does have the same chip as the HTC One M8 as far as I'm aware so I would imagine it would have the Quick Charge 2.0 function as well but whether or not the phone has it enabled or comes with a Quick Charger I'm not sure
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Just did some research
Turns out USB 3.0 standard port has a current of 900mA while USB 2.0 is 500mA so the power current on a USB 3.0 has also increased
TieNN89 said:
What do you mean by Samsung 3.0 :S
You're not talking about USB 3.0 are you?
Then yes the Samsung Galaxy S5 does have USB 3.0
USB 3.0 is just a faster way to transfer data and as far as I'm aware the charging speeds are still the same standard speed
You do need to have a USB 3.0 cable and a supporting device (USB 3.0 port) to utilise it the faster transfer speed
BUT in saying that the Galaxy S5 does have the same chip as the HTC One M8 as far as I'm aware so I would imagine it would have the Quick Charge 2.0 function as well but whether or not the phone has it enabled or comes with a Quick Charger I'm not sure
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Just did some research
Turns out USB 3.0 standard port has a current of 900mA while USB 2.0 is 500mA so the power current on a USB 3.0 has also increased
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The Galaxy S5 also has a different charging cable, but can still be used with standard micro usb as well. I was amazed at how fast my gf's phone charged with the stock S5 cable and wall charger.
Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Jr6278 said:
Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Was thinking the same thing, i tried my S4's charger which has 2amps and it works
Jr6278 said:
Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Not the one with the s5 but any of their earlier cables would fit our M8's.
Hey guys, for the ones that asked I have got the Google nexus fast charger and it is not fantastic. Takes 1,5 hour to charge from 5 to 100%.
I was quite desapointed. This is incredible I can't find any quick charge 2.0 charger anywhere, did someone do ?
The compatible charger must have a qualcomm quick charge logo, they said.
When is htc releasing the 2.0 charger
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Htc will release the charger when they release the charger. Patience.
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crustyeye said:
Htc will release the charger when they release the charger. Patience.
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agreed, patience is a virtue my friend

Fast charging cable?

I'm looking for a cable that I can use to take advantage of the full potential of my Anker wall charger. It uses Qualcomm quick charge but the cable it came with charges really slow. The lg stock cable is alright, but even my previous samsung cable is faster. Are there any cables out there that will allow my phone to charge faster? I hear a 28/24 gauge cable is faster, but is that dangerous to use?
Update: I ended up getting the 10ft Anker nylon braided charging cable because I have an Anker wall charger and I want a durable cable. I calculated the voltage drop over the length of the cable and decided it isn't enough to make a big difference so I went for it. Oddly enough I get a slightly higher charge rate than the 1ft cable that came with my wall charger! Thank you for all your input everyone!
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I've seen good reviews of the Anker with its included cable.
How slow is it charging? You know that QC 2.0 is not fully implemented on the G4?
Ampere said around 500mah with the anker cable. But with my lg cable I got 1300+. This was all with the screen off, but when it's on for a while it goes down to 250mah. Does it really make that big of a drop? Is the g4 just a slow charging phone in general and there not much I can do to change that? I'm aware quick charge isn't fully implemented but I figured it should at least be reasonably faster than normal charging.
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mike_n_ike said:
I'm looking for a cable that I can use to take advantage of the full potential of my Anker wall charger. It uses Qualcomm quick charge but the cable it came with charges really slow. The lg stock cable is alright, but even my previous samsung cable is faster. Are there any cables out there that will allow my phone to charge faster? I hear a 28/24 gauge cable is faster, but is that dangerous to use?
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28/24???
If you want a good charging cable take one that is max AWG 20.
The higher the number is, the thinner cable inside is, the more it will "resist" to the current.
AWG20 will offer less resistance than AWG24 and so would charge faster.
Would this be a good cable to buy then? It is specifically for charging and the reviews seem promising.
http://www.amazon.com/PortaPow-Micro-USB-Cable-Charging/dp/B0088HTYUE
mike_n_ike said:
Would this be a good cable to buy then? It is specifically for charging and the reviews seem promising.
http://www.amazon.com/PortaPow-Micro-USB-Cable-Charging/dp/B0088HTYUE
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It should since it is 20 AWG, but it is only for charging, no data on this one.
I personaly did bought an other brand :
http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-3-Pack-...UTF8&qid=1435505986&sr=1-2&keywords=Aukey+usb
It is not clearly stated in its description but it has :
28AWG for data
and
20AWG for charging
So it could charge as fast as the first one you quoted.
Yeah I don't need the data cable which is why I like that one. Does the length of the cable effect the charge speed noticeablely? I'm thinking of getting a long one
mike_n_ike said:
Yeah I don't need the data cable which is why I like that one. Does the length of the cable effect the charge speed noticeablely? I'm thinking of getting a long one
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Yes.
Google a litle and you will find website that calculate* it for you.
* the loss of voltage, in heat etc... depending on the lenght and section of your cable
i only choose which highest stars in amazon
whatever anything i want to buy on internet,
i just choose something which highest stars in amazon.
Check the cables from portapow if your amazon has them - they are very good charging cables.
How fast?
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How fast?
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Seriously, all the cables that came with the Quick Charger 2.0 are the best and the stock cable too. I have purchased all kind of cables from Amazon including Portapow, which is the same as the QC 2.0 charger cable. The length of the cable also play a part. You really want to test it with a USB Doctor volt tester that support more than 7V. Ampere alone don't tell you the exact figure. I'll not spend any money for a standalone cable that claimed to be the fastest. I returned all those cable i got from Az.
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rogconnect said:
Seriously, all the cables that came with the Quick Charger 2.0 are the best and the stock cable too. I have purchased all kind of cables from Amazon including Portapow, which is the same as the QC 2.0 charger cable. The length of the cable also play a part. You really want to test it with a USB Doctor volt tester that support more than 7V. Ampere alone don't tell you the exact figure. I'll not spend any money for a standalone cable that claimed to be the fastest. I returned all those cable i got from Az.
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You say that you did return all your cables, but at the same time you advice to use a USB volt/amp to see what is the voltage...
So "seriously", that's not very serious
bleuxeon said:
You say that you did return all your cables, but at the same time you advice to use a USB volt/amp to see what is the voltage...
So "seriously", that's not very serious
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I uses Anker and zerolemon QC 2.0 charger provided cable xddddd
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it's possible just a cable can let you chargering fast?i don't think so.....

[Request]Long Fast Charge Cable

Hey,
I was Googling for a while looking for a good and long cable to charge with my Galaxy S7E,
Tho when I read about it, it says the longer the cable - the slower the charge.
Now I've heard that there ARE cables that are longer and still can adapt the Fast Charging option...
Any good recommendations?
I've picked up a 2 meter braided Fast cable on Ebay also seen 3 meter ones, even long Retractable Fast cables
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Riche101UK said:
I've picked up a 2 meter braided Fast cable on Ebay also seen 3 meter ones, even long Retractable Fast cables
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Any specific search word to find a good stable cable?
Just put in s7 usb fast charge cable
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I bought on ebay normal 2,5m micro USB cable and it charged my S7 in about 1.35h from 10%
Kiddooo said:
Hey,
I was Googling for a while looking for a good and long cable to charge with my Galaxy S7E,
Tho when I read about it, it says the longer the cable - the slower the charge.
Now I've heard that there ARE cables that are longer and still can adapt the Fast Charging option...
Any good recommendations?
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First - how long is long? Is 2m good enough?
You got me thinking, since my understanding was that avoiding the really cheap cables, you'd be OK.
I came across this, by Qualcomm https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge/faq
- assuming snapdragon quick charge = exynos fast charge. Should do, since I think the chargers in the boxes are the same.
Q6: Does it matter what type of charging cable is used with a Quick Charge adapter?
A: Quick Charge is designed to be connector-independent. Quick Charge can be implemented with a variety of formats, including USB Type-A, USB micro, USB Type-C, and other proprietary connectors.
Quick Charge high-voltage operation is designed to minimize charging issues associated with long or thin cables, allowing for a superior charging experience, independent of cable type.
So it sounds like quick/fast charge is tolerant of long cables, so just make sure you get a good brand's
Bit of a myth,
I have 2m braided cable from Uk and a retractable flat plastic cable from China both under £3 and both work perfectly .
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