[Q] Firmware update without S-OFF by switching back to StockRom and Update? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everybody.
my HTC one has Viper 5.8 running with S-ON and i like it that way.
I never updated the Firmware since i moved from the 4.2.2 stock rom. (i have nandroid backup of the stock rom)
I am a bit scared doing S-OFF "just" to update firmware, hboot and radio, I know it should be easy to do, but i just don't want to.
So i thought that maybe i can flash back to the stock rom, then make the offical HTC update to 4.3 sense 6 (should also flash newest firmware right?) and then unlock the bootloader again, flash twrp and custom rom again.
Would that work? Is there something i have to pay attention to?
thx for any help!!!!

sancho777 said:
Hi everybody.
my HTC one has Viper 5.8 running with S-ON and i like it that way.
I never updated the Firmware since i moved from the 4.2.2 stock rom. (i have nandroid backup of the stock rom)
I am a bit scared doing S-OFF "just" to update firmware, hboot and radio, I know it should be easy to do, but i just don't want to.
So i thought that maybe i can flash back to the stock rom, then make the offical HTC update to 4.3 sense 6 (should also flash newest firmware right?) and then unlock the bootloader again, flash twrp and custom rom again.
Would that work? Is there something i have to pay attention to?
thx for any help!!!!
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Since you don't want S-Off, that is your best option. I would follow closely @Mike1986 [GUIDE] Complete Flashing Guide | Rooting | Going Back To Stock it is for those who are S-On.

Thanks, I will follow the guide.
But I have one more question:
Can I do the official HTC update from the htc stock rom while I still have custom recovery and bootloader unlocked?
Can't find any any info if there is any risk involved not changing back first to stock recovery and bootloader relocked before doing the update.
I guess recovery will be overwritten by the official update?!?

You need stock recovery and locked bootloader to take updates

SaHiLzZ said:
You need stock recovery and locked bootloader to take updates
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you don't need a locked bootloader to get an official ota update,however,you do need to flash a stock recovery !!.
I went through the ota update method to update my firmware as for some reason my htc one wouldn't s-off and I felt that it wasn't running as it should on custom roms with the old firmware.
I started off with a flashable zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition then ota updates,always doing a nand backup of rom.
always pull the stock recovery image from the ota before updating...
i'm now running 5.11.1540.9 firmware and all custom roms are running good...
if you google 4.06.1540.2 dev edition flashable zip you should find it,if not,i can upload it too somewhere for you...
an official htc ota update changes your firmware and installs a stock recovery..
its a bit long winded this way,but,it was the only way for me !!

markb63 said:
I started off with a flashable zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition then ota updates,always doing a nand backup of rom.
always pull the stock recovery image from the ota before updating...
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First thank you for sharing your experience.
When you say "zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition" then you mean the rom, correct?
Why would you pull the stock recovery from the OTA before updating? What would be the consequence of leaving it in?
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so i would download the odexed stock rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48111304
and afterwards flash the according recovery.img, correct?
i guess it is no problem that my phone (and their for the bootloader) was not a developer edition

sancho777 said:
First thank you for sharing your experience.
When you say "zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition" then you mean the rom, correct?
Why would you pull the stock recovery from the OTA before updating? What would be the consequence of leaving it in?
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yeah,it's a full flashable rom,that can be installed by custom recovery,when I say pull the stock recovery,i mean copy it to a folder on your pc,always best to have the matching recovery for your stock rom.

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[Q] Info before I root and install custom rom

All,
I decided that I do not want to wait for HTC to roll out the 4.2.2 update on my HTC One Dev and install a custom rom. I really tried to stick with stock because I was sick and tired of constant flashing and just want something that is stable and for work. But my itch is coming back and would just like to get a stable stock like rom ie Android Revolution HD 12. (Opinions for stable and stocklike?)
Anyways, since I have the Dev Edition, just want to make sure I'm doing this right, and have a couple of questions:
Since I'm bootloader unlocked, all I need to do is root, install a custom recovery ie CWM or TWRP, and flash a rom?
What do I do with firmware and radios? I know I should flash these seperately, but can anyone give me advise on which to flash? Again, I have the Dev Edition on At&T network.
Thank you all for any advice you can give me.
Nutzzer said:
All,
I decided that I do not want to wait for HTC to roll out the 4.2.2 update on my HTC One Dev and install a custom rom. I really tried to stick with stock because I was sick and tired of constant flashing and just want something that is stable and for work. But my itch is coming back and would just like to get a stable stock like rom ie Android Revolution HD 12. (Opinions for stable and stocklike?)
Anyways, since I have the Dev Edition, just want to make sure I'm doing this right, and have a couple of questions:
Since I'm bootloader unlocked, all I need to do is root, install a custom recovery ie CWM or TWRP, and flash a rom?
What do I do with firmware and radios? I know I should flash these seperately, but can anyone give me advise on which to flash? Again, I have the Dev Edition on At&T network.
Thank you all for any advice you can give me.
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There's no real reason to flash either firmware or radio. but Install a recovery, which will root the phone for you, make a nandroid backup and flash to your heart's content.
I think you should read next link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
@vomer posted a detailed guide to achieve Firmware upgrade, S-OFF and other stuff. If you want to go with stock experience, then go with ARHD 12.1.
You need S-OFF to upgrade the firmware (which is recommended). If you have 1.54 HBOOT, you will not gonna be able to flash a custom firmware and you will have to use the full firmware package which I'm not sure if Vomer included in his guide, but you can always look for Mike's firmware compilation topic
:No-Frost: said:
You need S-OFF to upgrade the firmware (which is recommended). If you have 1.54 HBOOT, you will not gonna be able to flash a custom firmware and you will have to use the full firmware package which I'm not sure if Vomer included in his guide, but you can always look for Mike's firmware compilation topic
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This is a little off.
If you have 1.54 hboot, you are already on the most recent firmware. But because of that, you can't s-off and flash future firmware updates. You're limited to flashing custom roms at the moment.
How can I tell what version of hboot I'm on?
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Nutzzer said:
How can I tell what version of hboot I'm on?
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You're on 1.44 because your phone is still stock on 4.1.2. So you're okay.
iElvis said:
This is a little off.
If you have 1.54 hboot, you are already on the most recent firmware. But because of that, you can't s-off and flash future firmware updates. You're limited to flashing custom roms at the moment.
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You're right lol... I was working on something and I went almost full retard for a second xD
Nutzzer said:
How can I tell what version of hboot I'm on?
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
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To know this, all you need to do is go to the bootloader. As your bootloader is already unlocked, I will assume you know how to get here...
Anyway, you can just reboot the device while keeping the Vol Down key pressed and you will enter bootloader.

From Sony To HTC One, Utterfly Confused

Hi guys. I shifted from my old Sony Xperia Sola to the beautiful HTC One and I'm loving it. The phone was gifted to me and is from from Singapore (or perhaps bought in one of those countries around there). The problem is that I'm just not getting the Android 4.2.2 update (OTA or software). Here's what I intend to do:
- Download International HTC One Andorid 4.2.2 Stock ROM
- Boot into HTC One stock recovery
- Flash Android 4.2.2 Stock on my HTC One
Questions:
1. Do I need to unlock my bootloader for this? From my experience with Sony, I shouldn't need to do so. For Sony phones there's FTF, for HTC phones there's (what? Is it RUU files?)?
2. Can I make this update on stock ROM?
3. Can I install CWM without unlocking bootloader and ROOT my phone as well?
Would really appreciate some help, just links to the respective threads and I'll take it from there.
Thanks!
You need unlocked boatloader for custom recovery , root , flashing , if I were you I'd fist s-off then do the following.
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Ha nice, I am also coming from the sola
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Shan89 said:
You need unlocked boatloader for custom recovery , root , flashing , if I were you I'd fist s-off then do the following.
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Is there no way I can flash the OFFICIAL Android 4.2.2 update using stock recovery?
thunderising said:
Hi guys. I shifted from my old Sony Xperia Sola to the beautiful HTC One and I'm loving it. The phone was gifted to me and is from from Singapore (or perhaps bought in one of those countries around there). The problem is that I'm just not getting the Android 4.2.2 update (OTA or software). Here's what I intend to do:
- Download International HTC One Andorid 4.2.2 Stock ROM
- Boot into HTC One stock recovery
- Flash Android 4.2.2 Stock on my HTC One
Questions:
1. Do I need to unlock my bootloader for this? From my experience with Sony, I shouldn't need to do so. For Sony phones there's FTF, for HTC phones there's (what? Is it RUU files?)?
2. Can I make this update on stock ROM?
3. Can I install CWM without unlocking bootloader and ROOT my phone as well?
Would really appreciate some help, just links to the respective threads and I'll take it from there.
Thanks!
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When you say you want to flash stock ROM, do you actually mean official 4.2.2 or are you talking about a custom Stock ROM like ARHD? ... If you want to flash a custom ROM you will need a custom recovery such as TWRP or CWM. If you want to flash an RUU then you will need to be S-Off to flash anything other than the one meant for the region the phone came from.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to flash custom recovery, also, if you decide to flash something like ARHD which is the best custom ROM IMO (and is almost completely stock but with a few improvements) then it already has root built into the ROM. Just unlock your bootloader, install custom recovery usng fastboot and then flash a ROM using CWM or TWRP, whichever you install.
Check these threads for any info .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023 ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
Hi. Thanks for your reply. @AllAboutTheCore
If you want to flash an RUU then you will need to be S-Off to flash anything other than the one meant for the region the phone came from.
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My phone software (.407) belongs to the India region. And I want to flash the official Android 4.2.2 ROM for the Indian HTC One version.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to flash custom recovery, also, if you decide to flash something like ARHD which is the best custom ROM IMO (and is almost completely stock but with a few improvements) then it already has root built into the ROM. Just unlock your bootloader, install custom recovery usng fastboot and then flash a ROM using CWM or TWRP, whichever you install.
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Alternatively, I'm considering flashing ARHD. Doesn't matter if I'm using an Indian region variant right? (GSM)
So I need to:
- Unlock the bootloader
- Install Recovery
- Flash ROM
That's it correct? I lose all the information in my internal storage or it stays? (I mean in the 32GB internal storage)
Also, can I lock bootloader and go back to official ROM at any stage in the future?
thunderising said:
Hi. Thanks for your reply. @AllAboutTheCore
My phone software (.407) belongs to the India region. And I want to flash the official Android 4.2.2 ROM for the Indian HTC One version.
Alternatively, I'm considering flashing ARHD. Doesn't matter if I'm using an Indian region variant right? (GSM)
So I need to:
- Unlock the bootloader
- Install Recovery
- Flash ROM
That's it correct? I lose all the information in my internal storage or it stays? (I mean in the 32GB internal storage)
Also, can I lock bootloader and go back to official ROM at any stage in the future?
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Yep, unlock your bootloader which will wipe your internal storage so backup to your pc first if there's things you want to keep. Install a custom recovery using fastboot and then you can just flash any ROM, ARHD is a very good choice btw lol.
If you want to return to stock then check the second thread in my previous post, but yes, you can flash a stock ROM like in the thread I mentioned, install a stock recovery, re-lock your bootloader and then you should be good to go as far as OTA updates etc.
This is assuming you are S-On btw, S-Off requires different steps for what I mentioned and I am not familiar with that way at all as I'm S-On. What I mentioned above is exactly what I did when I reverted to stock to receive the recent 4.2.2 update in the UK
I don't know which files you need to restore to stock as the thread is for the European version of the One and I don't know how your version differs but someone will be able to advise you more on that . The process is the same though if you are S-On, I'm just not 100% sure what custom ROM or stock ROM you would need for your variant of the ONE so best let somebody more knowledgeable take over from here lol
Good luck.
Phew. S-On S-Off, Sony phones are a hell lot simpler! Thanks a ton!
thunderising said:
Phew. S-On S-Off, Sony phones are a hell lot simpler! Thanks a ton!
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No worries ... Yep lol, Not as good though

[Q]Somebody claim he installed OTA without relock

Hey guys
A friend told me, he updated his htc one via OTA with just flashing stock recovery and not relocking the phone.
Is it possible?
I doubt because from the begining I have read everywhere that bootloader needs to be relocked.
Thanks for your answer,
Sent by myself, without help )
the last update worked for me without locked bootloader
arses said:
Hey guys
A friend told me, he updated his htc one via OTA with just flashing stock recovery and not relocking the phone.
Is it possible?
I doubt because from the begining I have read everywhere that bootloader needs to be relocked.
Thanks for your answer,
Sent by myself, without help )
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Just stock recovery and unchanged stock rom, rooted is oK, bootloader doesn't matter
there is NO need for (re-)locking the bootloader in order to get the OTA.
You should just have anything stock, i.e. firmware, recovery and unmodified hboot of course.
You receive the OTA if you are UNLOCKED and S-OFF!
Thanks guys.
Sent by myself, without help )
darkarvan said:
there is NO need for (re-)locking the bootloader in order to get the OTA.
You should just have anything stock, i.e. firmware, recovery and unmodified hboot of course.
You receive the OTA if you are UNLOCKED and S-OFF!
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OK, some dumb questions... I have a rooted stock Tmous device with 4.3 on it. The OTA obviously didn't work. I tried flashing a stock recovery I found online, but it may not have been the right one as I was never able to get it to upgrade.
So can you be specific of the steps necessary to get back to stock firmware, recovery and unmodified hboot? or is there another way to flash Kitkat easily?
I have TWRP right now, and have successfully been able to communicate with my device via ADB etc...
kendoori said:
OK, some dumb questions... I have a rooted stock Tmous device with 4.3 on it. The OTA obviously didn't work. I tried flashing a stock recovery I found online, but it may not have been the right one as I was never able to get it to upgrade.
So can you be specific of the steps necessary to get back to stock firmware, recovery and unmodified hboot? or is there another way to flash Kitkat easily?
I have TWRP right now, and have successfully been able to communicate with my device via ADB etc...
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The T-Mobile OTA is very picky about the stock recovery. I had to run the RUU for the T-Mobile stock 4.3 which put my phone completely stock. Then it did the OTA to 4.4.2 just fine. Since I am S-OFF, it was then easy enough to unlock and root. I've since found what appears to be the recovery.img from the OTA 4.4.2 update, so when they release another OTA update, I should be able to simply flash that recovery and get the update as normal. I hope.
Fuzi0719 said:
The T-Mobile OTA is very picky about the stock recovery. I had to run the RUU for the T-Mobile stock 4.3 which put my phone completely stock. Then it did the OTA to 4.4.2 just fine. Since I am S-OFF, it was then easy enough to unlock and root. I've since found what appears to be the recovery.img from the OTA 4.4.2 update, so when they release another OTA update, I should be able to simply flash that recovery and get the update as normal. I hope.
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Can you point me in the direction of the RUU you used? Of would you DropBox it to me (or some other file share method)?
Also, I'm currently S-On, so do you think my first step is to S-Off?
I've stayed with stock because I need WiFi calling, although I was just about to try Revolution HD 61 which supposedly has WiFi calling.
Any help is apperciated.
I didn't relock, but I did s-off
I've been trying to upgrade to 4.4 for weeks and finally figured out how to do it....
1) Installed Rumrunner to get s-off. I found Rumrunner and instructions here: http://rumrunner.us/
2) Downloaded older TMOUS firmware package that I found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43383588&postcount=2 and extracted recovery.img from it (to get me back to stock recovery)
3) Used Fastboot and flashed the stock recovery
4) Ran the standard update from within 4.3 and let it follow standard OTA process
5) Flashed latest TWRP via Fastboot (for some reason the openrecovery script method from the goo.im app didn't work) which I found here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7

What's the Minimum I need to accept OTA Firmware update?

I'm currently S-OFF, Stock Firmware (as shipped, except for hboot, recovery).
And I'm running BadBoys 1.1
I don't want to flash "Modified Firmware" (this time).
What do I need to do let the OTA update come in normally?
I assume I need to flash Stockish ROM (with or without root).
Do I need to relock?
I know there is unmodified firmware as well. I might go that route too.
But I want the most "Official" way to let the firmware be updated. I want to hold off on Harman Firmware just yet.
If a Stock RUU (that included OTA firmware) existed, I'd definitely just use that. I know about the Harman RUU.
I've never personally taken an OTA.
I think all you need is a stock rom and stock recovery.
Not sure if you need to re-lock being s-off.
Btw the unmodified firmware is pulled from the OTA zip.
BD619 said:
I've never personally taken an OTA.
I think all you need is a stock rom and stock recovery.
Not sure if you need to re-lock being s-off.
Btw the unmodified firmware is pulled from the OTA zip.
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Yeah, I know. I ended up doing just that. Being crazy anal for nothing.
I learned my lesson on my old EVO 4G about accepting OTA's.
I lost root for a while until a new method opened up.
Patience is everything.
Since you're S-off you can just install the stock Android recovery, then accept the OTA. You'll retain S-off but lose root. You can then root again by installing a custom recovery and flashing the SU binary in recovery. Honestly, though, Captain Throwback's firmware will get you where you want to be without the hassle of doing everything I listed above.
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Yes, and no...for Sense enhancements, you get to check them out first without waiting for a stock rooted rom or a custom rom running the same base. Matter of preference, I guess.
AarSyl said:
Yes, and no...for Sense enhancements, you get to check them out first without waiting for a stock rooted rom or a custom rom running the same base. Matter of preference, I guess.
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Right. I personally prefer to wait for a stock rooted ROM based off the latest update, and separately install the corresponding firmware package.
Sent from my HTC device
Magnum_Enforcer said:
Right. I personally prefer to wait for a stock rooted ROM based off the latest update, and separately install the corresponding firmware package.
Sent from my HTC device
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Meh...to each his own. It depends on what the update contains for me. For example, I had no interest in waiting for a stock rooted Sense 5.0 rom when it was finally released for the LTE.
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(Q) what's the easiest way to update Bootloader and Radios?

So I'm currently running BlissPop 5.0.2 and I wanna upgrade to a 5.1 ROM, but I was told I need to update bootloader and Radios, sorry I don't have much experience on this Subject, So what would be the easiest way to update both of these?? Thanx
And say the ROM I'm flashing doesn't work out for me for whatever reason and I need to Restore my nandroid backup (5.0.2 ROM) would I have to downgrade or whatever the bootloader and Radios again?? I'm confused lol thank you
owyheendn said:
So I'm currently running BlissPop 5.0.2 and I wanna upgrade to a 5.1 ROM, but I was told I need to update bootloader and Radios, sorry I don't have much experience on this Subject, So what would be the easiest way to update both of these?? Thanx
And say the ROM I'm flashing doesn't work out for me for whatever reason and I need to Restore my nandroid backup (5.0.2 ROM) would I have to downgrade or whatever the bootloader and Radios again?? I'm confused lol thank you
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easiest way to update is with fastboot and google images here is link to images https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
if you want to keep data or it wont flash follow this http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/12/running-into-the-dreaded-missing-system-img-error-flashing-android-5-0-factory-images-heres-how-to-get-around-it/ but you need to erase data because your on a custom rom and it probably wont be compatible with stock rom once you have updated everything reflash a custom recovery or dont flash the stock one at all then flash a 5.1 rom and good to go
What about all the Bootloader and radio zips that can be flashed through TWRP? I've read about people flashing the updates while still being on their 5.0.2 ROMs and everything still works fine, I don't have access to a computer I would like to just update straight from my phone without a Computer if possible? Think I could flash the Bootloader and radio updates through TWRP then reboot n after everything is all good go back and flash the new 5.1 ROM and gapps?
owyheendn said:
What about all the Bootloader and radio zips that can be flashed through TWRP? I've read about people flashing the updates while still being on their 5.0.2 ROMs and everything still works fine, I don't have access to a computer I would like to just update straight from my phone without a Computer if possible? Think I could flash the Bootloader and radio updates through TWRP then reboot n after everything is all good go back and flash the new 5.1 ROM and gapps?
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i don't know if anyone has twrp flashables for the updating bootloader and radios your searching is as good as mine here i am not experienced with that i always used factory images or ota updates to update those things.
but if you happen to have a backup of your stock rom in twrp you maybe able to just go back to stock then flash back your stock recovery then update with an ota but for an ota to work it has to be all stock no root no nothing just stock.
billycar11 said:
i don't know if anyone has twrp flashables for the updating bootloader and radios your searching is as good as mine here i am not experienced with that i always used factory images or ota updates to update those things.
but if you happen to have a backup of your stock rom in twrp you maybe able to just go back to stock then flash back your stock recovery then update with an ota but for an ota to work it has to be all stock no root no nothing just stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3066052

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