[Q] Sprint HTC One M8 H/K - Removing Carrier Bloatware and Unrooting - Sprint HTC One (M8)

Hi - I have a rooted Sprint HTC One M8 H/K edition. I rooted and unlocked my phone with the motive to remove Sprint bloatware on the phone. I, however, also need Good for Enterprise to function properly. I attempted to uninstall apps via Titanium Backup, but the Sprint Default Configuration reinstalled the bloatware after a reboot.
My question is: what is the best approach to removing the bloatware and allowing for GFE to work properly as well? Would running a stock H/K remove the bloatware and unroot? Should I just delete the apps and get a root cloak? Or can I remove apps and then unroot or something? I have been seeing S-OFF is useful as well - but not sure if that would endanger my use of Good for Enterprise.
I appreciate the help.
Thanks!

coyn3burglar said:
Hi - I have a rooted Sprint HTC One M8 H/K edition. I rooted and unlocked my phone with the motive to remove Sprint bloatware on the phone. I, however, also need Good for Enterprise to function properly. I attempted to uninstall apps via Titanium Backup, but the Sprint Default Configuration reinstalled the bloatware after a reboot.
My question is: what is the best approach to removing the bloatware and allowing for GFE to work properly as well? Would running a stock H/K remove the bloatware and unroot? Should I just delete the apps and get a root cloak? Or can I remove apps and then unroot or something? I have been seeing S-OFF is useful as well - but not sure if that would endanger my use of Good for Enterprise.
I appreciate the help.
Thanks!
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I have been reading a bit about GFE as I had not heard of it until reading your post but I didn't see anything that would lead me to believe it would not work while rooted? You've already seen how the Sprint Default, among other apps, could cause the bloatware to return so I'd like to see you keep your root (although it IS pretty easy to unroot/root but could get tiresome depending on your level of success) if possible to more easily deal with obstacles you might encounter later.
Anyhow, I'm thinking the stance I take on Windows installations where you need a particular program to work (or many) but do not want any unnecessary services running might be one solution for you..Basically, what I usually do is disable one service at a time then test to see if that particular service disruption had any unforeseen consequences with my other apps and services.
What I think would be easiest for you, though, is finding an "optimized" Sense Rom that has kept most everything in tact but disabled or removed bloat like the Sprint Default and even the connection manager app thing (forget the name) that can be considered unnecessary.
To the best of my knowledge GFE isn't going to quite working properly solely because you've rooted or S-off'd but I'm by no means certain of that as I've never used it so just make sure, whatever you do, you make a nandroid first.^^
And yes, this all would probably be easier for you if you are able to get S-off on your device...especially if you may end up trying out a couple new ROOM.
Hope that helps a little at least! =)

slimbrady said:
I have been reading a bit about GFE as I had not heard of it until reading your post but I didn't see anything that would lead me to believe it would not work while rooted? You've already seen how the Sprint Default, among other apps, could cause the bloatware to return so I'd like to see you keep your root (although it IS pretty easy to unroot/root but could get tiresome depending on your level of success) if possible to more easily deal with obstacles you might encounter later.
Anyhow, I'm thinking the stance I take on Windows installations where you need a particular program to work (or many) but do not want any unnecessary services running might be one solution for you..Basically, what I usually do is disable one service at a time then test to see if that particular service disruption had any unforeseen consequences with my other apps and services.
What I think would be easiest for you, though, is finding an "optimized" Sense Rom that has kept most everything in tact but disabled or removed bloat like the Sprint Default and even the connection manager app thing (forget the name) that can be considered unnecessary.
To the best of my knowledge GFE isn't going to quite working properly solely because you've rooted or S-off'd but I'm by no means certain of that as I've never used it so just make sure, whatever you do, you make a nandroid first.^^
And yes, this all would probably be easier for you if you are able to get S-off on your device...especially if you may end up trying out a couple new ROOM.
Hope that helps a little at least! =)
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Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks for the input. GFE is my main problem..because I want to permanently delete the bloatware, but need GFE to function properly for work. I'll look into getting the S-off as well.

I was able to achieve S-OFF with firewater on my phone. Any thoughts on what my next step should be?

I believe I have managed to figure it all out. For reference:
1) Unlocked bootloader w/ HTCdev and installled TWRP and rooted the phone
2) Completed S-OFF with firewater
3) Removed tampered flag (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51711046)
4) Uninstalled Sprint apps with Titanium Backup (I rebooted my phone and confirmed that it was not re-installing)
5) Installed xposed framework and downloaded/installed the xposed module via this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163) and enabled.
6) Rebooted, installled Good for Enterprise with success.
Thanks for the help - I am happy with what I was able to accomplish. If anyone has any other thoughts, please let me know.

Sorry to bump the thread, but is it worth buying the pro version of Titanium Backup in order to be able to "freeze" apps? Thanks.

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[Q] Bloatware Apps keep reappearing after crash

Hey guys,
I have been trying to uninstall all the bloatware from my HTC Butterfly S after unlocking the bootloader and rooting it. However, sometimes randomly while uninstalling the bloatware (like the Korean keyboard) with titanium backup, the device will crash and restart itself, and previously uninstalled apps would appear back again.
For example, i uninstalled 7digital, Google Korean Keyboard, HTC Sense Wechat (in that order) then the device would crash while uninstalling HTC Sense Wechat. After it booted up again, i found that my default keyboard would change back to HTC's own keyboard and that 7digital, Google Korean Keyboard and Wechat would all be found installed again.
Anyone else experiencing the same problems?
Edit : okay so restarting the phone without it crashing does the same things too..all the bloat apps came back :/
Edit2 : oh ya im using stock rom by the way.
I also tried to uninstall HTC Sense Webchat and had the same issues. I think this program is somehow connected either with Blinkfeed or integrated in the system, so you can't delete it from rom.
I unninstaled all the bloatware from my HTC One X once I rooted it. But then, I could not install OTA updates anymore. I had to get an old backup from my Nandroid, restore all the bloat just to be able to install the update. Was really annoying.
Now, I moved to one Butterfly S. This time, I plan to root and freeze all the bloat with Titanium Backup. Once and update is released, I can just go there and undo the freeze.
Did you tried freezing the apps you don´t want? Maybe it can prevent the crashing.
fanghan said:
I have been trying to uninstall all the bloatware from my HTC Butterfly S after unlocking the bootloader and rooting it. However, sometimes randomly while uninstalling the bloatware (like the Korean keyboard) with titanium backup, the device will crash and restart itself, and previously uninstalled apps would appear back again.
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Edit : okay so restarting the phone without it crashing does the same things too..all the bloat apps came back :/
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The system partition seems to be write-protected somehow. Any changes you make from within a running system are lost on reboot, even though you remount /system as read-write. In order to circumvent this, you can write down a list of APKs you want to remove, reboot into recovery and do it from there – in that case the changes are permanent.
Warell said:
I unninstaled all the bloatware from my HTC One X once I rooted it. But then, I could not install OTA updates anymore. I had to get an old backup from my Nandroid, restore all the bloat just to be able to install the update. Was really annoying.
Now, I moved to one Butterfly S. This time, I plan to root and freeze all the bloat with Titanium Backup. Once and update is released, I can just go there and undo the freeze.
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I have certain doubts as to whether an OTA will work on any rooted Butterfly S if one gets released eventually. Butterfly S suffers from the same problem as One, i.e. certain apps come preinstalled in /data (see this thread for a list of those that were in /data/preload on mine) and the OTA update script checks their integrity as well, but they are wiped in the process of unlocking the bootloader.
Now, obviously, I made a backup of those apps, but that may not be enough, it's perfectly possible there were other things in /data as well and there's not really a way to find out unless HTC releases a RUU, in which case we can look into its contents.
koniiiik said:
The system partition seems to be write-protected somehow. Any changes you make from within a running system are lost on reboot, even though you remount /system as read-write. In order to circumvent this, you can write down a list of APKs you want to remove, reboot into recovery and do it from there – in that case the changes are permanent.
I have certain doubts as to whether an OTA will work on any rooted Butterfly S if one gets released eventually. Butterfly S suffers from the same problem as One, i.e. certain apps come preinstalled in /data (see this thread for a list of those that were in /data/preload on mine) and the OTA update script checks their integrity as well, but they are wiped in the process of unlocking the bootloader.
Now, obviously, I made a backup of those apps, but that may not be enough, it's perfectly possible there were other things in /data as well and there's not really a way to find out unless HTC releases a RUU, in which case we can look into its contents.
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So basically your saying that we should not unlock the bootloader and I don't think it make sense to unlock it because there is no s off
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daorderdillon said:
So basically your saying that we should not unlock the bootloader and I don't think it make sense to unlock it because there is no s off
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No, that's most certainly not what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that if you unlock your bootloader, any OTA upgrades might not work because some files from the original ROM are lost in the process. This is just unfounded speculation based on the fact that this was true for the One and the Butterfly S shows the same symptoms. Nevertheless, we have yet to see whether this is true or not since HTC haven't released any OTAs for the Butterfly S yet.
If you don't need root or custom recovery, feel free not to unlock your bootloader and stick to the vanilla stock ROM. Some of us need root, which means we did unlock our bootloader and are willing to bear the consequences.
I don't see any reason why not having a S-OFF exploit would mean that it's not worth unlocking. Just unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev is perfectly sufficient to install a custom recovery or ROM, from what I gather around the interwebs, custom kernels should be all right as well. If you want to argue that you need a custom splash screen then I'm willing to argue that you don't.
Anyway, this entire discussion is way off-topic already so I'll stop here.
This is an interesting discussion, although i'm away from my turf, as i got an HTC One - on second thought, it isn't so different from the Butterfly S. I was looking for a way to get rid of the bloatware and keep stock Sense UI. The problem, as has been discussed in the replies above - there is a "bug" when unlocking the bootloader from htcdev that causes some data to be wiped out. From what i've read all several similar cases, you will not be able to update via OTA. Basically, if you want to go back to stock with OTA support, you'll need to download a stock rom matching your device's region and restore that onto your device. I personally don't think it's worth it, as HTC will be releasing 4.3 soon (by the end of this month, according to leaks).
However, i was hoping to find an app (much like what already exists for the Galaxy S4) that would easily disable or block bloatware apps, without uninstalling them (that wouldn't be possible without rooting anyway). I'm really hoping that such an app exists for the One or Butterfly S, as i've been able to manually disable apps running in memory through Settings > Apps > All and i've noticed significant improvements, especially in the AnTuTu benchmarks. An automated way of doing that would have been really awesome.

[Q] rooting sprint m8

I wasn't going to root my phone but this "its on" app is killing half my battery now, so I guess its time. Can someone point in in the right direction for a tutorial that can root after the 4.4.4 update? also, does anyone know if there's a way to root without erasing the phone? I don't want to reinstall everything, I really just want to get rid of the its on app. Its unbelievable that sprint hasn't fixed this in over a month.
The method to root is the same as it is with previous Android versions on this device. Unlocking your bootloader factory resets the device, but you can connect your phone to your PC and backup whatever you need to beforehand. HTC backup also works great for backing up apps, ringtones, etc. I've used it in the past and it works quite well. As far as the ItsOn garbage, you'll need to flash a ROM that removes it from the device, as it's not simply an app that you can delete.

[Q] Telus HTC Desire 510 - problems removing software from device

Hey,
Wondering if somebody could help me out. I purchased a Telus HTC Desire 510. The bootloader has been unlocked, TWRP installed, SuperSU root access. I installed Titanium Backup. I uninstalled system software such as Twitter, Facebook, services etc, and have noticed that when I restart the phone, the software comes back.
Can someone explain to me why the O.S. is doing this? It's Android kitkat. I have noticed in any file manager that it defaults to and emulated folder etc //sdcard/emulated. Also thinking it might have something to do with HTC software pre-installed //dumby proof backup software? In the past on any Android device, after unlocking and rooting I've never had this problem. Starting to fumble me...
Thanks
rcatania31_ said:
Hey,
Wondering if somebody could help me out. I purchased a Telus HTC Desire 510. The bootloader has been unlocked, TWRP installed, SuperSU root access. I installed Titanium Backup. I uninstalled system software such as Twitter, Facebook, services etc, and have noticed that when I restart the phone, the software comes back.
Can someone explain to me why the O.S. is doing this? It's Android kitkat. I have noticed in any file manager that it defaults to and emulated folder etc //sdcard/emulated. Also thinking it might have something to do with HTC software pre-installed //dumby proof backup software? In the past on any Android device, after unlocking and rooting I've never had this problem. Starting to fumble me...
Thanks
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Hi, unfortunately I cannot help you at the moment but I will try to look up your problem. In the mean time, can you please create a stock backup from your ROM and make it available. This would be very helpful for many of us how are working on the VM / Sprint version of this device. Thanks in advance.
moh19814 said:
Hi, unfortunately I cannot help you at the moment but I will try to look up your problem. In the mean time, can you please create a stock backup from your ROM and make it available. This would be very helpful for many of us how are working on the VM / Sprint version of this device. Thanks in advance.
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Hey,
Thanks for the reply. I created a backup with TWRP, approx. size 2.5GB unzipped in a folder a few days ago. I will try to get it online /zipped/compressed I geuss to a reasonable size.
I do see your VM/Sprint roms available. Unsure whether to try them as it's a different carrier? Telus runs on GSM LTE 4 1700/2100Mhz band 4. Could always revert back but I don't want to wreck the phone.
A great little phone. Still very new.
I see some roms say ''write protection removed'. Would this have something to do with the stock software coming back on boot? Ie . facebook etc. I always assumed having SU rights basically removes write protection. Who knows.
rcatania31_ said:
Hey,
Thanks for the reply. I created a backup with TWRP, approx. size 2.5GB unzipped in a folder a few days ago. I will try to get it online /zipped/compressed I geuss to a reasonable size.
I do see your VM/Sprint roms available. Unsure whether to try them as it's a different carrier? Telus runs on GSM LTE 4 1700/2100Mhz band 4. Could always revert back but I don't want to wreck the phone.
A great little phone. Still very new.
I see some roms say ''write protection removed'. Would this have something to do with the stock software coming back on boot? Ie . facebook etc. I always assumed having SU rights basically removes write protection. Who knows.
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Since there is no S-OFF for this device, you'll need a kernel with write-protection removed... That's why the apps you remove keep reappearing upon reboot.
Surj138 said:
Since there is no S-OFF for this device, you'll need a kernel with write-protection removed... That's why the apps you remove keep reappearing upon reboot.
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Thanks for the response. I went ahead and flashed the Cricket kernel on the device and it worked. Being a Telus device it seems to make no difference. I will check and make sure 4G LTE still works - if the kernel even has anything to do with it?
Glad this worked as there is a tonne of garbage on these phones that I'd like to get rid of. I might go ahead and try a custom rom - with the HTC software removed - as it seems to cause some issues when removing (htc software) from Titanium Backup.
Question as I'm curious- has anyone figured out a way to unlock the governor for the CPU/GPU. I think this config would be a prime candidate to mild overclocking.
rcatania31_ said:
Thanks for the response. I went ahead and flashed the Cricket kernel on the device and it worked. Being a Telus device it seems to make no difference. I will check and make sure 4G LTE still works - if the kernel even has anything to do with it?
Glad this worked as there is a tonne of garbage on these phones that I'd like to get rid of. I might go ahead and try a custom rom - with the HTC software removed - as it seems to cause some issues when removing (htc software) from Titanium Backup.
Question as I'm curious- has anyone figured out a way to unlock the governor for the CPU/GPU. I think this config would be a prime candidate to mild overclocking.
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Hi, I do not think so, but I am not 100% sure. So far, for Cricket Kernel with Write Protection Removed v1.0, Ondemand was set as default governor and all Stock Governors was Enabled.
rcatania31_ said:
Hey,
Wondering if somebody could help me out. I purchased a Telus HTC Desire 510. The bootloader has been unlocked, TWRP installed, SuperSU root access. I installed Titanium Backup. I uninstalled system software such as Twitter, Facebook, services etc, and have noticed that when I restart the phone, the software comes back.
Can someone explain to me why the O.S. is doing this? It's Android kitkat. I have noticed in any file manager that it defaults to and emulated folder etc //sdcard/emulated. Also thinking it might have something to do with HTC software pre-installed //dumby proof backup software? In the past on any Android device, after unlocking and rooting I've never had this problem. Starting to fumble me...
Thanks
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The TELUS device is GSM, so likely the Cricket Kernel with write-protection removed will help you. Look under Android Development for it.
Sorry all.. realized this was a solved thread.
Did you install a Write Protect removed Kernel/image? That could be the reason. By the way, would you happen to have a TWRP stock backup that you make available for us? We're trying to get the VM/Sprint variant running on a GSM network, but so far we have not been very successful.
rcatania31_ said:
Hey,
Wondering if somebody could help me out. I purchased a Telus HTC Desire 510. The bootloader has been unlocked, TWRP installed, SuperSU root access. I installed Titanium Backup. I uninstalled system software such as Twitter, Facebook, services etc, and have noticed that when I restart the phone, the software comes back.
Can someone explain to me why the O.S. is doing this? It's Android kitkat. I have noticed in any file manager that it defaults to and emulated folder etc //sdcard/emulated. Also thinking it might have something to do with HTC software pre-installed //dumby proof backup software? In the past on any Android device, after unlocking and rooting I've never had this problem. Starting to fumble me...
Thanks
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rcatania31_ said:
Hey,
Thanks for the reply. I created a backup with TWRP, approx. size 2.5GB unzipped in a folder a few days ago. I will try to get it online /zipped/compressed I geuss to a reasonable size.
I do see your VM/Sprint roms available. Unsure whether to try them as it's a different carrier? Telus runs on GSM LTE 4 1700/2100Mhz band 4. Could always revert back but I don't want to wreck the phone.
A great little phone. Still very new.
I see some roms say ''write protection removed'. Would this have something to do with the stock software coming back on boot? Ie . facebook etc. I always assumed having SU rights basically removes write protection. Who knows.
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Hi, I would like to check if you had some time to get your Telus TWRP backup online or not yet. Thanks in advance.
moh19814 said:
Hi, I would like to check if you had some time to get your Telus TWRP backup online or not yet. Thanks in advance.
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Ill do it if you are still looking for it

[Q] Options for Stock Unrooted S5 requiring airwatch and encryption

I have an ATT S5 (SM-G900A), completely stock, unrooted, updated to the latest 5.0 OTA update. My requirements for my phone are that it be able to pass Airwatch checks and that it be able to be encrypted (Personal device used at work). Some background first:
Last time I tried to play around with rooting, other mods, and whatnot was on my ATT S3 (I think I747?) and I discovered that an unspecified combination of rooting, installing a custom loader (CWM in my case) and installing a custom mod (Cyanogenmod at the time) made my phone unable to encrypt. At the time I was not required to use Airwatch, but encryption was required for my phone to connect to work, so I gave up on the whole lot.
I have now discovered that ATT, in their infinite wisdom, has replaced the S Voice drive mode with their own "ATT Drive Mode", and it's been verified they went so far as to remove the related APKs from the phone entirely. For those unaware, S Voice Drive mode is an feature of S Voice that (when turned on) reads out all callers and text messages, and then verbally prompts you for actions; reply, answer, ignore, etc. It allows fully hands free functionality. ATT Drive Mode, on the other hand, automatically kicks in whenever speeds of 20 MPH are detected (even if you're a passenger), rejects all calls and texts excluding a user-defined 5 person list, and essentially makes your phone useless anytime you're in a car. The goal is to "reduce texting and distracted driving", but as I'm on-call as part of my job and need to at least be aware of texts that come in within 10 minutes of receipt, it actually makes my drive much more dangerous. ATT Drive mode is a good idea for teens, perhaps, but i'm not a teen.
This brings me to my question: What are my options?
--Does rooting break my ability to encrypt? I know airwatch will flag, but I'm thinking there's a possibility of being able to root, put a custom loader on my phone, and then restore stock with that custom loader, whereupon I can try to install the drive mode APK...which leads me to my next question:
--Does having a custom loader (like safestrap or CWM or whatever is in use nowadays) break my ability to encrypt?
--Does anyone know of a way to install the S Voice drive mode in the G900A? I tried searching, but the only references involved being rooted, or ended with something vague like "download a stock rom and find the apk using root explorer" as the solution (which is vague to me because I don't know which stock rom to use, what apk to look for, and last time I used root explorer on my s3, it needed root...)
Honestly, the ideal solution would be something like the stock rom from the international version that would run on my ATT version...but I don't know if such a thing exists or is possible. I don't mind Samsung's cruft, but I do dislike ATT's lobotomizing of my phone to push their own little product that treats me like a kid. I know that I am less safe as a driver without the S Voice drive mode than I was with it.
I take it I have no options? And that no one knows how rooting affects encryption?
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sheaiden said:
I take it I have no options? And that no one knows how rooting affects encryption?
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I will make it easy for you. Since you took the 5.0 OTA update rooting is not possible anymore. Also there is no way to downgrade to KitKat which was rootable. Sorry. Not much you can do until someone finds a way to root 5.0. If you find the S Voice Drive app, you can side load it and see if it works.
Waiting4MyAndroid said:
I will make it easy for you. Since you took the 5.0 OTA update rooting is not possible anymore. Also there is no way to downgrade to KitKat which was rootable. Sorry. Not much you can do until someone finds a way to root 5.0. If you find the S Voice Drive app, you can side load it and see if it works.
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Actually, while I greatly appreciate the fact that you took the time to reply (seriously! at least you took the time!), this is neither easy nor related to the questions I asked. If you look at my post, I'm not asking "how can I root", I'm asking three rather different questions:
--Does rooting break my ability to encrypt? I know airwatch will flag, but I'm thinking there's a possibility of being able to root, put a custom loader on my phone, and then restore stock with that custom loader, whereupon I can try to install the drive mode APK...which leads me to my next question:
--Does having a custom loader (like safestrap or CWM or whatever is in use nowadays) break my ability to encrypt?
--Does anyone know of a way to install the S Voice drive mode in the G900A? I tried searching, but the only references involved being rooted, or ended with something vague like "download a stock rom and find the apk using root explorer" as the solution (which is vague to me because I don't know which stock rom to use, what apk to look for, and last time I used root explorer on my s3, it needed root...)
In fact, I am unable to remain rooted (Airwatch; it's part of the post title), and the whole point and thrust of my question lies in the fact that I am looking to find out what affects encryption and what options I have as far as getting S Voice Drive mode on my phone while staying Airwatch compliant (not rooted). In addition, "if you can find the s voice drive app" is part of the problem too, as evidenced by the third question I asked above; I don't know where to find said app.
Does anyone know anything regarding what I was actually asking?
Everything that you want to do requires ROOT! Safstrap needs root, CWM will brick you phone since the bootloader is locked. Again, there is no way as of now to root the S5 with 5.0 att OTA.
Here is the link to download the GS4 S Voice app. You can try and side load it,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oe7i2g81iuhjv38/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk?dl=0
Waiting4MyAndroid said:
Everything that you want to do requires ROOT! Safstrap needs root, CWM will brick you phone since the bootloader is locked. Again, there is no way as of now to root the S5 with 5.0 att OTA.
Here is the link to download the GS4 S Voice app. You can try and side load it,
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Awesome, I'll start with that sideloading, and test it out. Thanks! As far as the rest, I suppose that does clarify some things (that I admittedly already knew), so I do appreciate it, but it still does leave the answers to the other questions. I can infer, of course, that the answer to whether having a custom bootloader on the Galaxy S5 breaks encryption will be dependent on whether root breaks the encryption, since as you pointed out custom bootloaders need root to install, but the fantasy I entertained for a little while was rooting when there's a method (hope springs eternal, so I'm hoping it will eventually be possible), installing a custom bootloader so I can do things like backups and sideload, getting the proper apk's installed for the drive app, and then unrooting it so I can connect it via airwatch to my work's network. Perhaps I should have marked this as a solidly theoretical question, since as you said, there currently exists no root. I just want to know, with the unique way that Samsung implemented Knox and the encryption on the S5, what will break encryption and what won't?
Of course, there is a side question brought up by all this...how possible is it to load another firmware on my phone? as in, use Odin to put the tmobile image on my phone. That is likely a bad example, since I'm fairly certain there are actual hardware differences between the ATT and the tmobile models, but the concept still stands. At what level are the hardware configurations different between phone companies?
sheaiden said:
Awesome, I'll start with that sideloading, and test it out. Thanks! As far as the rest, I suppose that does clarify some things (that I admittedly already knew), so I do appreciate it, but it still does leave the answers to the other questions. I can infer, of course, that the answer to whether having a custom bootloader on the Galaxy S5 breaks encryption will be dependent on whether root breaks the encryption, since as you pointed out custom bootloaders need root to install, but the fantasy I entertained for a little while was rooting when there's a method (hope springs eternal, so I'm hoping it will eventually be possible), installing a custom bootloader so I can do things like backups and sideload, getting the proper apk's installed for the drive app, and then unrooting it so I can connect it via airwatch to my work's network. Perhaps I should have marked this as a solidly theoretical question, since as you said, there currently exists no root. I just want to know, with the unique way that Samsung implemented Knox and the encryption on the S5, what will break encryption and what won't?
Of course, there is a side question brought up by all this...how possible is it to load another firmware on my phone? as in, use Odin to put the tmobile image on my phone. That is likely a bad example, since I'm fairly certain there are actual hardware differences between the ATT and the tmobile models, but the concept still stands. At what level are the hardware configurations different between phone companies?
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You will not be able to change your bootloader period... At this point the locked bootloader is unbreakable. That leads to your next question about tmobile and that's a no as well due to the locked down bootloader.
Even with root you won't be able to do anything you've suggested due to the locked bootloader.
OPOfreak said:
You will not be able to change your bootloader period... At this point the locked bootloader is unbreakable. That leads to your next question about tmobile and that's a no as well due to the locked down bootloader.
Even with root you won't be able to do anything you've suggested due to the locked bootloader.
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Interesting. I had been under the impression that I had seen people referring to installing clockworkmod or some similar thing on an S5, but I think I may be getting caught up in terminology; those are recoveries, aren't they? not bootloaders? Or perhaps people were posting about the other S5s with unlocked bootloaders. 15 different versions of S5, and I get stuck with the most apple-like of all the carriers....(in the sense of "you take what we give you and don't play with it!")
So, assuming I don't manage to get it installed via the link Waiting4MyAndroid was kind enough to post, I think that rules out anything other than the method of:
--wait for a root method to be established for the new OTA
--root, install the drive apk
--unroot, so I can encrypt and pass airwatch
Does anyone know if the old method of rooting broke encryption? and whether encryption was able to be performed after unrooting again?
Edit: Attempted to Sideload. Sadly, it is telling me "App not installed" (other sideloads do work; it's not the unknown sources setting). I'm thinking either the apk is marked for s4, and it's not compatible, or it's trying to overwrite files from the established svoice system, and that's not allowed. I suppose if someone has the drive apks from a tmobile S5 image or some such thing (same model, different carrier), then I could try again, but unfortunately this apk doesn't work. Thanks for the attempt, Waiting4MyAndroid!

[ROM] [Stock] J320A/J320AZ/J320AG deodex'd

Today i bring you the very first rom for our device.
It's only stock, but the installer includes enough options to keep us happy for a while.
The core installation includes a stripped down system menu with Google play and contacts. I also added, by default, the WiFi fix and hotspot mod. The rest of what you install is your choice.
Aroma options:
Choose which J320 you own
Debloat (fully customizable)
Deknox
Install root
Install busybox
Install Init.d
Install Xposed
Bugs:
None
If you find any let me know, but if you do not wipe, please don't even report bugs.
Link:
Download
Installation:
Flashfire
Enjoy
-D
This uses the same base files for each room, AQG1. So even tho the highest firmware for J320AG is only AQB1 you still get the July security update (minus the new sboot)
All devices are interchangable for me, on Cricket. Depending on your carrier maybe they'll all work for you too.
I have AT&T Samsung Galaxy Express Prime GoPhone, J320A. Owned it for one week. It has been carrier-unlocked. I'm now using T-Mobile SIM. Seems to work OK. Only issue I can find is where the SIM status page does not show my phone number.
I would appreciate pointers or maybe a place to look for installation steps. I assume I'll to need to root via Kingroot then replace with SuperSU (if possible). Then install FlashFire.​ I have rooted and installed ROMs on other devices (Galaxy Exhibit, 2012 Nexus tablet, Moto G), but seemingly devices are more locked-down these days. I understand that TWRP is not available for this device and likely will not be.
Last year, I bought a couple of inexpensive T-Mobile phones and "rooted" them with KingRoot which is still installed on those phones. (Not really thrilled about that.) I put rooted in quotes because it doesn't quite behave like a fully-rooted phone, IMO. I'm not very expert in these things, but I know how to follow steps and have used ODIN, TWRP, et cetera.
I'm leery of working with these more locked-down phones. Am I being paranoid and/or incorrect about these matters?
BTW, thanks for the ROM! I'm surprised there aren't more replies.
Maybe this phone is not as popular as I think it should be. Maybe it's too low-spec for the tech-savvy crowd. I got mine for just $64 at Walmart online, but they've since raised the price to $79. Seems like a good deal, even at that price.
I paid $15 to carrier-unlock it. I had to flash firmware (modem file?) before unlocking, then flash another file (restored modem?) after unlocking. I was following emailed instructions after the initial unlock procedure failed.
Here's the root thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j3-2016/how-to/root-samsung-sm-j320a-galaxy-express-t3573628
There's a xposed module that does just that, never tried it tho, and of course it's not permanent.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...pp-sim-changer-change-registered-sim-t2106490
I definitely like the phone and yeah, it's a good price.
Being locked does hurt it tho. No easy recovery and no roms from source. The only thing we might get will be ported. And with no kernel, porting is a pain to track down problems... but i like a challenge
My J3 was unlocked out of the box? Still don't quite get the different names for it though. Rooted with infixremix method and worked fi e until its download caused the dialer to crash whenever it was opened. Still trying to sort out the mess I made of this one.
original stock
hey do any of you guys know where I can get the original firmware to restore this device? mine is the S/W: j320aueu1ape9
on the box it says j320x UD
Odin files are posted here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j3-2016/how-to/root-samsung-sm-j320a-galaxy-express-t3573628
How is this ROM working out?
Can anyone -- or DamienMc, the creator -- post a review of how this ROM is working out? Brief or long; any type of review would be appreciated.
I'm thinking of trying this ROM and I haven't rooted my phone yet.
Although I did unlock the carrier via a paid unlocker site. I'm using it on T-Mobile with no apparent issues. My phone is stock, of course, except for being carrier-unlocked. …Several questions, if I might:
Are those "extra" AT&T and Samsung accounts present? (ref. screenshot)
Are Samsung factory (i.e.: theme-able) dialer, messaging, and contacts apps installed?
Is it still possible to theme the UI with the Samsung theme installer?
Finally, which bloat icons have been purged? (ref. screenshot) I realize one's idea of bloat may vary from individual.
Any feedback or commentary is welcome. Thank you for your consideration.
could it work on J320H?
i know it's for 320A/Az but i want to try it
danny8 said:
Can anyone -- or DamienMc, the creator -- post a review of how this ROM is working out? Brief or long; any type of review would be appreciated.
Any feedback or commentary is welcome. Thank you for your consideration.
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I'm not going to review it (someone else can)
But I used it heavily before I started work on something new.
It's as stable as stock... cause it is stock Nothing tweaked just the few add-ons to let you tweak it easier.
About the bloat.
I did notice I should have left Samsung account (and maybe billing) with the standard install. Because you can't use the theme store without them. But they're in 'bloat'.
You can always install all the debloat options and have 100% deodex stock and edit to your liking.
hamzaeid said:
could it work on J320H?
i know it's for 320A/Az but i want to try it
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Sorry bud, different chipset
How do we flash this to our device mainly because twrp and cwm ain't a thing for the j320a. Also I'm using kingroot and I cannot go to su I've tried also flashify does not work either does flashfire how would you go about rooting with su cause I've tried the mrw method and contanstaly it would pop up kinguser has stopped working so do you have another method of rooting the J320A. I just followed the first post about rooting it.
iiFir3z said:
How do we flash this to our device mainly because twrp and cwm ain't a thing for the j320a. Also I'm using kingroot and I cannot go to su I've tried also flashify does not work either does flashfire how would you go about rooting with su cause I've tried the mrw method and contanstaly it would pop up kinguser has stopped working so do you have another method of rooting the J320A. I just followed the first post about rooting it.
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I just rooted my phone with Kingroot and used the mrw method to remove it well keeping my root. after got Su in my terminal emulator, I deleted the kingroot apk not the app itself. then just installed SuperSu thru my play store and been working just fine for me.
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I just rooted my phone with Kingroot and used the mrw method to remove it well keeping my root. after got Su in my terminal emulator, I deleted the kingroot apk not the app itself. then just installed SuperSu thru my play store and been working just fine for me.
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I've tried that it would just constantly spam me with kinguser has stopped working and that message would constantly spam me so I'm not ever using that way again.
iiFir3z said:
I've tried that it would just constantly spam me with kinguser has stopped working and that message would constantly spam me so I'm not ever using that way again.
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Yeah i guess i never had kinguser app or apk i had to delete. Was just kingroot apk that i downloaded and used.
iiFir3z said:
I've tried that it would just constantly spam me with kinguser has stopped working and that message would constantly spam me so I'm not ever using that way again.
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After mrc and kinguser crashes you should have supersu. You need to run that first, let it update the files and then reboot.
If su doesn't even get installed, have the apk ready and install.
Another thing you should make sure your really rooted, reboot after king and recheck.
Also what versions of kingroot and mrw are you using?
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I'm using Kingroot and I cannot go to SU. I've tried also Flashify does not work. Either does Flashfire. How would you go about rooting with SU…
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I followed the rooting thread OP directions carefully and had many problems. My initial Kingroot was really ugly and heated the phone. I then attempted to use SuperSU-Me Pro (paid version). It was never able to complete, even after several tries. I struggled using various techniques over many hours. (I did have root with Kingroot.) Nothing would remove Kingroot 5.0.5, and as you probably know, Kingroot won't allow for many apps such as Flashfire. Very frustrating. I probably shortened the life of my phone and battery with all the crap I tried. Many pulls of my battery were needed.
I finally wrested control from Kingroot by uninstalling version 5.0.5 and installing Kingroot 4.5 instead. Then SuperSU-Me Pro did its work. Had I used Kingroot 4.5 from the outset, would things would have gone better? I don't know. The rooting process for this phone is a one-way trip with a dubious outcome. I know the Express Prime is not costly, but if you're risk adverse think twice before trying to root. I suppose you can undo the whole thing, but I haven't tried and likely will not.
Despite the problems I had, I believe using SuperSU-Me Pro was worth the cost and ultimately saved time. I'm glad I rooted my phone, but -- damn, it was a lot of effort compared to previous phones and my tablet.
I have not tried the de-odexed ROM posted in this thread's OP, but it's on my to-do list. I'm kind of afraid of messing with my phone for the time being. I'll post a review if and when I try it out.
For what it's worth, I wasn't able to get my built-in flashlight toggle to work. I ran the fix script via flashfire with no success. Update: Fixed after installing Busybox. Thanks, DamienMc!
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I wasn't able to get my built-in flashlight toggle to work. I ran the fix script via flashfire with no success.
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You need busybox installed as well
Busybox
Oh, you're very good. It works!
Help! After flashing the rom, it does not let me log in to the google account and I can not exit that screen, the message it displays is as follows:
danny8 said:
I have AT&T Samsung Galaxy Express Prime GoPhone, J320A. Owned it for one week. It has been carrier-unlocked. I'm now using T-Mobile SIM. Seems to work OK. Only issue I can find is where the SIM status page does not show my phone number.
I would appreciate pointers or maybe a place to look for installation steps. I assume I'll to need to root via Kingroot then replace with SuperSU (if possible). Then install FlashFire.​ I have rooted and installed ROMs on other devices (Galaxy Exhibit, 2012 Nexus tablet, Moto G), but seemingly devices are more locked-down these days. I understand that TWRP is not available for this device and likely will not be.
Last year, I bought a couple of inexpensive T-Mobile phones and "rooted" them with KingRoot which is still installed on those phones. (Not really thrilled about that.) I put rooted in quotes because it doesn't quite behave like a fully-rooted phone, IMO. I'm not very expert in these things, but I know how to follow steps and have used ODIN, TWRP, et cetera.
I'm leery of working with these more locked-down phones. Am I being paranoid and/or incorrect about these matters?
BTW, thanks for the ROM! I'm surprised there aren't more replies.
Maybe this phone is not as popular as I think it should be. Maybe it's too low-spec for the tech-savvy crowd. I got mine for just $64 at Walmart online, but they've since raised the price to $79. Seems like a good deal, even at that price.
I paid $15 to carrier-unlock it. I had to flash firmware (modem file?) before unlocking, then flash another file (restored modem?) after unlocking. I was following emailed instructions after the initial unlock procedure failed.
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Could you please tell the name of the service/company you used to carrier-unlock it ? (I'm in the same situation) Thanks! @danny8

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