[Q] A few questions - Moto X Q&A

Hi
On ebay one excellent condition moto x is listed.its xt1058 model.I am from india and planning to buy this.But can i unlock it?if i can, will all the functions work after unlocking?also will i receive all moto x updates on this?Or if there are any other problem i can face after unlocking a phone,please elaborate.?
One more question in my mind why mint conditions carrier locked phone are available in larger quantitites in usa.Is something fishy about these phones?
Seller has large quantities like 30 phones to sell all mint conditions xt1058 at and t models.From where such phones come in large quantities?

If its an ATT XT1058 it can be SIM unlocked, but not Bootloader unlocked (unless you can use the Chinese Website/MiddleMan).
The other questions, I can't answer.

[Q] huh? Belongs in "Q & A" section. Sorry, not trying to be an ass. Rules are rules...that's one of the simplest.
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KidJoe said:
If its an ATT XT1058 it can be SIM unlocked, but not Bootloader unlocked (unless you can use the Chinese Website/MiddleMan).
The other questions, I can't answer.
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Will other functions work after unlocking?what about updates?and for what prpose bootloader unlocking is needed?for flashing roms?

vaibhavshan said:
Will other functions work after unlocking?what about updates?and for what prpose bootloader unlocking is needed?for flashing roms?
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Yes, Yes, and Yes

samwathegreat said:
Yes, Yes, and Yes
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ok one more thing..best source or place to unlock it?

vaibhavshan said:
ok one more thing..best source or place to unlock it?
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I have no first-hand experience buying sim-unlock codes, so I can't recommend one personally. If you search the Moto X forums, there are a few different ones mentioned that users claim to work.

vaibhavshan said:
Will other functions work after unlocking?what about updates?and for what prpose bootloader unlocking is needed?for flashing roms?
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While SIM locked, you can only use ATT SIMs in the phone. After you SIM unlock you can use the SIM from other GSM carriers. I do no know what GSM and LTE bands your carrier uses, so I can't speak to how well the ATT XT1058 will work on your carrier once SIM unlocked.
I don't know if you will receive updates with the ATT XT1058 when using it on a different carrier.
There are many sources on the internet selling the SIM unlock code for ATT Moto X (XT1058).
Bootloader unlocking allows you to easily root and disable write protection, as well as flash 3rd party or "after market" recoveries and roms. There is only one source for Bootloader unlock code for the ATT XT1058, and that is in the Chinese Website/Middleman threads in the general section here.

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[Q] Cost of Unlock Bootloader

Heard you have to pay for this, can anyone tell me the cost?
Looking to buy this phone so couldnt login and check
dpaine88 said:
Heard you have to pay for this, can anyone tell me the cost?
Looking to buy this phone so couldnt login and check
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There's no financial cost to unlock your boot loader, its free.
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Thanks for your reply.
I was going off a FAQ in the General section
Please note, In order to flash any custom Recoveries, you need to have unlocked Bootloader. Barring the open Bounty, the only viable option right now is to buy an unlock code from Motorola.
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is this incorrect?
dpaine88 said:
Thanks for your reply.
I was going off a FAQ in the General section
is this incorrect?
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Motorola does not charge you for the boot loader unlocking code, the only cost is your warranty if you do not have a developer edition.
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You can only unlock on VZW and AT&T if you get the developer edition, and the cost is $50 more than the standard device.
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imnuts said:
You can only unlock on VZW and AT&T if you get the developer edition, and the cost is $50 more than the standard device.
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So if you just get the regular one, you are stuck with the stock ROM?
Also, is it possible to get the VZW dev edition? I just went through the whole Moto Maker process and didn't see anything about developer edition.
dpaine88 said:
So if you just get the regular one, you are stuck with the stock ROM?
Also, is it possible to get the VZW dev edition? I just went through the whole Moto Maker process and didn't see anything about developer edition.
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Developer editions aren't eligible for MotoMaker.
The unlock process it free, but as mentioned, it is not currently possible to unlock a non dev Verizon or Att model and the Dev models are not available through Moto Maker. If you're looking at another carrier then VZW or ATT you can unlock from what I read, but since theyre not DEV editions you lose your warranty.
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Developer editions aren't eligible for MotoMaker.
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I really wish they were, I went locked version due to this.
dpaine88 said:
Thanks for your reply.
I was going off a FAQ in the General section
is this incorrect?
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I'm pretty sure they're referring to the SIM carrier lock. Correct me if I'm wrong folks.
I have a Verizon Dev edition with my boot loader unlocked. And I did not have to pay for a unlock key.

[Q] Flashing Sprint Moto X to Telcel SFB

Hi everyone, I've been a following XDA for a while i've unlocked, rooted, flashed roms, etc., many times,
But this time i am not sure how to proceed. [I'm also a beginner... but I'm looking forward to contribute in the near future]
You see, I bought a Brand New Sprint Moto X , never been activated on any carrier, it arriving on Monday tops.
I already know how to unlock it, root it, and flash a custom rom.
but want to be able to unlock the gsm capabilities of the phone to use internationally, i know sprint offers this service but i don't qualify because i need to be 3 months in service whit them.
on the other hand i read in the General Section , in the model description:
XT1049 - Republic Wireless
XT1052 - European - Sim ?
XT1053 -T-Mobile US, Dev Ed
XT1055 - US Cellular - Sim ?
XT1056 - Sprint - Sim Unlocked
XT1058 - AT&T, Rogers, Claro, Movistar, Vivo, Oi, TIM - Sim Unlocked
XT1060 - Verizon - Sim Locked
What does it mean being "Sim Unlocked"
While i be able to use it on A GSM service (Mexico)
if not, could a posible solution be flashing the SFB for Telcel to my Sprint phone?
or will i just hard brick it?
Thank you very much for your attention.
Eddie
Didn't know the XT1053 was the Developer Edition, that's cool to know.
I'll be pending to this post.
Best
xphoneuser said:
Hi everyone, I've been a following XDA for a while i've unlocked, rooted, flashed roms, etc., many times,
But this time i am not sure how to proceed. [I'm also a beginner... but I'm looking forward to contribute in the near future]
You see, I bought a Brand New Sprint Moto X , never been activated on any carrier, it arriving on Monday tops.
I already know how to unlock it, root it, and flash a custom rom.
but want to be able to unlock the gsm capabilities of the phone to use internationally, i know sprint offers this service but i don't qualify because i need to be 3 months in service whit them.
on the other hand i read in the General Section , in the model description:
XT1049 - Republic Wireless
XT1052 - European - Sim ?
XT1053 -T-Mobile US, Dev Ed
XT1055 - US Cellular - Sim ?
XT1056 - Sprint - Sim Unlocked
XT1058 - AT&T, Rogers, Claro, Movistar, Vivo, Oi, TIM - Sim Unlocked
XT1060 - Verizon - Sim Locked
What does it mean being "Sim Unlocked"
While i be able to use it on A GSM service (Mexico)
if not, could a posible solution be flashing the SFB for Telcel to my Sprint phone?
or will i just hard brick it?
Thank you very much for your attention.
Eddie
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Sorry it won't work...at least not yet. But it appears you already found the relevant thread on SIM-Unlock for Sprint Moto X.
samwathegreat said:
Sorry it won't work...at least not yet. But it appears you already found the relevant thread on SIM-Unlock for Sprint Moto X.
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hi, thank you!,
what about flashing a Telcel SFB file trough rsd lite?,
xphoneuser said:
hi, thank you!,
what about flashing a Telcel SFB file trough rsd lite?,
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Its been tried. Flashing the SBF itself will work, but the phone will still be sim-locked and unusable on GSM.
Thank you!!
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Its been tried. Flashing the SBF itself will work, but the phone will still be sim-locked and unusable on GSM.
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I understand now, reading a lot on the other threads and in other sites it now undrstand that sim unlock cannot be done unless i have service for 3 months or a fix comes [hopefully soon].
thank you.
just before we close this thread..
what if i flash an SFB of a CDMA carrier here, will it work? or will i have to reprogram the phone [ using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-flash-sprint-moto-x-to-page-plus-t2732342 but using my cdma carrier PRL) ????
is this the right place to post this last question?
sorry, and thanks again.
Eddie
xphoneuser said:
I understand now, reading a lot on the other threads and in other sites it now undrstand that sim unlock cannot be done unless i have service for 3 months or a fix comes [hopefully soon].
thank you.
just before we close this thread..
what if i flash an SFB of a CDMA carrier here, will it work? or will i have to reprogram the phone [ using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-flash-sprint-moto-x-to-page-plus-t2732342 but using my cdma carrier PRL) ????
is this the right place to post this last question?
sorry, and thanks again.
Eddie
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Eddie,
Yes, you will need to follow the instructions in the "Flash Sprint Moto X to Page Plus" thread. You will need to change some of the steps as appropriate to YOUR carrier you are flashing to since not all steps will be the same as flashing to "Page Plus". Flashing a CDMA Rom will not work. AFAIK, the only other CDMA ROM available is the Verizon one which prevents you from being able to flash to another carrier. Does anyone know of any others?
Good Luck
samwathegreat said:
Eddie,
Yes, you will need to follow the instructions in the "Flash Sprint Moto X to Page Plus" thread. You will need to change some of the steps as appropriate to YOUR carrier you are flashing to since not all steps will be the same as flashing to "Page Plus". Flashing a CDMA Rom will not work. AFAIK, the only other CDMA ROM available is the Verizon one which prevents you from being able to flash to another carrier. Does anyone know of any others?
Good Luck
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hey, thank you i read in other spanish forums that cdma acivating in iusacell carrier (mx) is confirmed posible.
if its a clean esn i think i dont even need to unlock the bootloader, i dont know.
phone is arriving on monday ill post any results and if im succesfull i will make a guide for those in mi shoes.
thanks again.

[Q] Dev edition ROM

Hi again,
Is it possible install a Dev Edition ROM on a "common" Moto X?
Thanks!
alrojas said:
Hi again,
Is it possible install a Dev Edition ROM on a "common" Moto X?
Thanks!
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The Dev edition Roms aren't one byte different from the regular ones.
The vzw Dev edition uses the regular xt1060 ROM.
The GSM Dev edition use the T-Mobile xt1053 ROM.
What are you trying to accomplish?!?
samwathegreat said:
The Dev edition Roms aren't one byte different from the regular ones.
The vzw Dev edition uses the regular xt1060 ROM.
The GSM Dev edition use the T-Mobile xt1053 ROM.
What are you trying to accomplish?!?
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I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
alrojas said:
I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
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There is no hardware or software difference besides the unlockable bootloader. When the bootloader exploit gets released, unlock your device, and it will be nearly the same. (I only say nearly because I feel like i'm forgetting something.
alrojas said:
I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
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That really doesn't make sense....but no. You can't.
There are SEVERAL XT1058s. Which do you have? The AT&T Variant, or a different one?
If you do NOT have the AT&T variant, you can already unlock the bootloader which basically "transforms" it into a DEV edition without doing anything else.
Any phone with an unlocked bootloader *IS* an un-official "DEV" edition. There is nothing "special" about the Dev editions except for their unlockable bootloaders, or rather the fact that they retain their warranty after being unlocked.
I'm not understanding what you intend to gain?
ALL Moto X's have unlockable bootloaders *EXCEPT* for the Verizon, AT&T, and Republic Wireless variants.
The only thing "special" about the dev editions is that they keep their warranty intact after unlocking the bootloader. But if it isn't a device SOLD as a DEV edition, you will void its warranty anyways.
And if you happen to have the AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, see the thread in General titled "China Middleman Back" - that guy sells codes that unlock the bootloader on the locked variants. If you pay him and get a code, your phone will be a non-official DEV edition. If you DON'T have AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, you can *already* unlock it *FREE* from Moto's official unlock website.
samwathegreat said:
That really doesn't make sense....but no. You can't.
There are SEVERAL XT1058s. Which do you have? The AT&T Variant, or a different one?
If you do NOT have the AT&T variant, you can already unlock the bootloader which basically "transforms" it into a DEV edition without doing anything else.
Any phone with an unlocked bootloader *IS* an un-official "DEV" edition. There is nothing "special" about the Dev editions except for their unlockable bootloaders, or rather the fact that they retain their warranty after being unlocked.
I'm not understanding what you intend to gain?
ALL Moto X's have unlockable bootloaders *EXCEPT* for the Verizon, AT&T, and Republic Wireless variants.
The only thing "special" about the dev editions is that they keep their warranty intact after unlocking the bootloader. But if it isn't a device SOLD as a DEV edition, you will void its warranty anyways.
And if you happen to have the AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, see the thread in General titled "China Middleman Back" - that guy sells codes that unlock the bootloader on the locked variants. If you pay him and get a code, your phone will be a non-official DEV edition. If you DON'T have AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, you can *already* unlock it *FREE* from Moto's official unlock website.
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@samwathegreat can i flash a Galaxy Note 3 rom? I want to transform my maxx to a note 3. I really like the bigger screen.
Wut?

XT1060 Bootloader unlock

Hi just wondering if i buy this phone http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Blac...41?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item280344d421
Will i be able to unlock the bootloader? assuming it's not verizon if coming from hong kong or would i be wrong? cheers
I'm guessing the "unlocked" in the title means SIM unlocked. If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.
imnuts said:
I'm guessing the "unlocked" in the title means SIM unlocked. If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.
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Would this still hold true given that this is coming from Asia? or are all xt1060s locked aside from the dev model?
As far as I'm aware, yes.
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imnuts said:
If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.
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Do you mean that Sunshine might eventually work to unlock the bootloader on XT1060s? or is it working right now?
(I know I can check by just running the app on the phone, but I don't own the phone yet either, was considering buying one)
EDIT: just did a little more research, seems like sunshine will work for XT1060s if it hasn't been upgraded to 4.4.4 . If anyone knows otherwise, please correct me.
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Would this still hold true given that this is coming from Asia? or are all xt1060s locked aside from the dev model?
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I'm not aware of the XT1060 being sold by any other carriers that Verizon in the USA. All Verizon XT1060's are SIM Unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) due to FCC 700mhz C-Block rules.
Moto only gave out the Bootloader unlock code for the Developer Edition XT1060. Sunshine will work so long as the phone is on 4.4.2 and has NEVER been flashed with 4.4.4 or higher.
KidJoe said:
I'm not aware of the XT1060 being sold by any other carriers that Verizon in the USA. All Verizon XT1060's are SIM Unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) due to FCC 700mhz C-Block rules.
Moto only gave out the Bootloader unlock code for the Developer Edition XT1060. Sunshine will work so long as the phone is on 4.4.2 and has NEVER been flashed with 4.4.4 or higher.
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i used the motorola unlock your bootloader site to unlock a xt1060 4.2.2 non dev edition, was this customary or did i just get lucky?
kidjoe every thing i know about the 2013 x ive pretty much learned from you, thanks!
hugh a said:
i used the motorola unlock your bootloader site to unlock a xt1060 4.2.2 non dev edition, was this customary or did i just get lucky?
kidjoe every thing i know about the 2013 x ive pretty much learned from you, thanks!
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It was either just lucky, or you used the China Middle Seller/Middle man that was available long ago and not Moto's web site.
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It was either just lucky, or you used the China Middle Seller/Middle man that was available long ago and not Moto's web site.
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i for sure used the motorola website on non dev deition 1060, now i try every x that passes through, some times i think that site may have flaws

Moto X4 Models (NO Bootloader Unlocking)

Motorola X4 Models :
-XT1900-01 USA Carrier Friendly / Project Fi Model
-XT1900-07 Amazon Alexa Model
I spoke to Motorola to find out model numbers and if the 01 Model is Bootloader Unlockable, and unfortunately it is not.
what? then how come is root only tested and working allegedly on xt1900-1? I'm getting so confused haha. I only know mine is xt1900-6.
The bootloader is unlockable on the XT1900-01
I want to get this phone, but I'm afraid of getting the wrong phone for Verizon and getting stuck with a locked bootloader phone.
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Is there unlocking issue with regular version too ???
Amanpreetsingh said:
Is there unlocking issue with regular version too ???
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no. that's motorola usual unlocking process, completely safe unless YOU do something wrong, of course.
blowingoff said:
no. that's motorola usual unlocking process, completely safe unless YOU do something wrong, of course.
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Do you think this device get good development as off now no twrp and unlocking bootloader is of no use.
Amanpreetsingh said:
Do you think this device get good development as off now no twrp and unlocking bootloader is of no use.
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twrp will be ready soon, then the fun will start
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twrp will be ready soon, then the fun will start
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Yes hope for the best.
From what we've been able to discern from testing is just the opposite of what the CS agent told you. The Amazon version is the one you can't unlock the bootloader (probably because they are afraid you can disable the lock screen ads that way). Nobody's paid Amazon yet to remove them (apparently you can pay the difference between the "with ads" version and the regular retail price if you want Amazon to remove them), so we don't know if that enables bootloader unlock or not.
bamaredwingsfan said:
I want to get this phone, but I'm afraid of getting the wrong phone for Verizon and getting stuck with a locked bootloader phone.
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I'm pretty certain there is no Verizon version of the X4.
AFAIK, in the US there are three versions:
Amazon Prime Ads
Android One
Unlocked for all major carriers
pizza_pablo said:
I'm pretty certain there is no Verizon version of the X4.
AFAIK, in the US there are three versions:
Amazon Prime Ads
Android One
Unlocked for all major carriers
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I thought the Google project fi would work on Verizon's network
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I thought the Google project fi would work on Verizon's network
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I didn't mean to imply that any version of the X4 would not work on Verizon. My wife has the US Unlocked X4 and we use Verizon.
I mean to say that Verizon does not sell the X4. There is no Verizon branded X4, that I know of.
I have the Amazon version with ads and Alexa but my model# is :XT1900-1
Will I be able to unlock the bootloader?
gatomdl said:
I have the Amazon version with ads and Alexa but my model# is :XT1900-1
Will I be able to unlock the bootloader?
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Follow the instructions on this website (to see if it can be unlocked) - You don't have to actually unlock the device.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Report back here and let us know. I have the XT1900-1 and I unlocked the bootloader.
michael28056 said:
Follow the instructions on this website (to see if it can be unlocked) - You don't have to actually unlock the device.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Report back here and let us know. I have the XT1900-1 and I unlocked the bootloader.
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I did what you said and sadly it said it is UNLOCKABLE.
gatomdl said:
I did what you said and sadly it said it is UNLOCKABLE.
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Why is that news saddening?
gatomdl said:
I did what you said and sadly it said it is UNLOCKABLE.
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You didn't have to be sad bcoz of that. Will be sad if it's not unlockable. So it's ok with your.
Lol sorry guys I meant to say it is NOT unlockable
pizza_pablo said:
I didn't mean to imply that any version of the X4 would not work on Verizon. My wife has the US Unlocked X4 and we use Verizon.
I mean to say that Verizon does not sell the X4. There is no Verizon branded X4, that I know of.
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So let me get this straight, I could buy the Google Fi version and pop my Moto x pure Sim card in and activate the phone on Verizon's network correct?
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