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Now that BT finally works, I'm looking for a very thin but large keyboard or case that I can use w. my nook without adding too much bulk to it....
If you google for "samsung-galaxy-tab-bluetooth-keyboard-case-review" you'll see what I mean. I'm actually considering getting that and ripping the keyboard part out of the case, because nook definitely would not fit inside that case.
Seems to be a bit of a waste though to pay $40 for the whole deal, if I could only find who makes that keyboard part or something similar
diNovo Edge from Logitech maybe?
But I didn't even know BT had been enabled finally, what the what? Going to see about that now...
nook color bluetooth keyboard portfolio
I've been looking this morning...basically something that I could roll together with the NC and a bluetooth keyboard for conferences. A couple ideas come to the forefront:
http://shop.brando.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-case-with-bluetooth-keyboard_p05269c0299d057.html
And then some keyboards originally for the iPad, but would work nonetheless:
http://www.ipadaccessories.com/othe...rds/best-bluetooth-keyboards-for-ipad-roundup
The iGo looks decent, and I can get my hands on an Apple keyboard for cheap...but then I'm looking at having to prop up the NC and carrying along the keyboard as well. Might look into ETSY and having someone sew one together.
-Ian
Yeah, A sample came out last night, and Nightly 17 is out now. Some people are reporting problems with nightly 17. (they skipped 16? because they skipped a day?)
I have the BT version installed now (not nightly 17) and it works great (the OS, I don't have any BT hardward yet.)
On the keyboard question, that keyboard is too big and way too expensive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
That's still bigger than the NC, but closer, and much cheaper.
I think I'm going to look into one of the bluetooth keyboard / pad holders though instead of making a holder.
Please notice that the Nook is about an inch longer than the galaxy tab. I learned that the hard way since I bought my Nook without a case and I live - well - let's just say on the other side of the planet. So far I haven't been able to find anything that fit the Nook.
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Please notice that the Nook is about an inch longer than the galaxy tab. I learned that the hard way since I bought my Nook without a case and I live - well - let's just say on the other side of the planet. So far I haven't been able to find anything that fit the Nook.
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Did the same thing, having the same problem. I am drooling over tab cases like mad.
How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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They posted the pre-17 BT before they posted a build 17. It may in fact be the same file, but I haven't updated to 17 yet. I don't even have a bluetooth device yet, but I think I'm going to walmart to get a wiimote for NES action!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960537
That is what I'm using. it's the bluetooth build 3/11/2011
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=encore
This is the CM7-Encore-17 which includes bluetooth. I'm unsure of the difference but they are indeed different file sizes.
About that galaxy pad keyboard:
That looks promising!! These guys are not very heavy. One could, if one were so inclined and feeling a bit hackery, cut off the leather holder for that galaxy pad and use some 3m dual lock or hook and loop velcro to connect the NC to that keyboard holder.
I think I'm just going to get a keyboard and design a stand to hold up the NC on the desk.
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How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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You can try my SD image if you only want it for test purposes and don't want to touch your existing setup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
Thanks for the SD link man. I didn't notice that.
I just ordered this from newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
I will report back when it arrives (circa weds.)
Theoretically speaking, would flashing over to the CM7 Nightly Kernel work for other Mods?
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About that galaxy pad keyboard:
That looks promising!! These guys are not very heavy. One could, if one were so inclined and feeling a bit hackery, cut off the leather holder for that galaxy pad and use some 3m dual lock or hook and loop velcro to connect the NC to that keyboard holder.
I think I'm just going to get a keyboard and design a stand to hold up the NC on the desk.
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For some reason it says on the website
Note: This product DOES NOT work with Sprint and Verizon version
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I wonder why it wouldn't be compatible? It's bluetooth shouldn't it be universal?
Nah...
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For some reason it says on the website
I wonder why it wouldn't be compatible? It's bluetooth shouldn't it be universal?
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Apparently Samsung and Verizon/Sprint decided to lock out bluetooth on their Galaxy Tabs. Go figure.
Not our problem though.
nice find on the keyboard! looks to be just .5" wider than the NC, and a bit shorter front to back. I can picture this in a custom case that flips up and locks into a laptop-esque position
I'm thinking of either buying that Galaxy Tab one and altering it (shouldn't be too hard) or just making my own custom case with keyboard built in. It wouldn't be too hard either way, there are videos around on making a case for the nookcolor, adding a keyboard shouldn't be hard and could probably just be done with some Velcro
I definitely just purchased the Gizmo Dorks BT keyboard and case (for galaxy).. and I'm a huge xda newb so I can't post links, but I bought it from amazon for about 60 bones USD- very cheap for a keyboard and stand-up case.
I don't really care about keyboard size- maybe I'll get some mini-finger clipons for my fingers if it's too small but I think the case is a little bigger (8" long) than some of the other galaxy combo cases out there- and a guy said he fit his archos tab in it, but it should be here next week and I'll keep ya'll updated.
I've been using an apple keyboard for a few days now. It's fantastic for a few reasons.
It's a real keyboard. I type 25wpm on the soft keyboard, i doubt i could improve much on that with those little case keyboards, with mushy buttons. I do 55wpm on the apple keyboard which is pretty close to my model m desktop keyboard but more portable.
It's amazingly convenient to actually use. I use it "backwards". Throw the nook flat near me, between my arms, and reach past it to the keyboard behind it. It's even easier to use than my laptop for what it does, sometimes i even find myself preferring it over my desktop for certain tasks. The cramped netbook configuration the case keyboards lock you into makes me shudder now. I could still do the netbook configuration if i wanted too though. It's a more flexible setup, which is the point of the tablet over the laptop/netbook to begin with...
The keyboard throws in my backpack just fine, is super light, small enough not to notice. It would be the same if i used a messenger bag or whatever to carry the nook, and there is no extra bulk if i know i won't need the keyboard, i can just grab the nook by itself. Flexibility again.
It is $70 dollars which is maybe a little more than other options, but if I'm gonna get a keyboard, i want to make sure it's an upgrade over the touchscreen. $10-$20 is worth more typing speed, less fatigue and more flexibility to me.
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Thanks for the SD link man. I didn't notice that.
I just ordered this from newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
I will report back when it arrives (circa weds.)
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So how is the keyboard, chisleu???
I just ordered these keyboards from amazon, they both connect and work wonderfully:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HJEVY6
I sent it back though because the keys were too close together.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MN1F6Y
I think I am going to keep this one!
It's keys are raised rubber and smaller, but they are spaced out so you can feel the individual keys.
The case is too small for the nookColor (since it's for the galaxy tab), but the keyboard is actually velcro-ed in, so I just removed it and I am using it in my nookColor case. (http://gifts.barnesandnoble.com/Minimal-Trifold-Cover-in-Night/e/9781616864927/?cds2Pid=36174)
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So how is the keyboard, chisleu???
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It is ok. Bt keyboard support is kinda broken right now though. Wifi interferes with bluetooth.
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Since we've only had our tablets for a short time, I might be a little premature in asking but has anyone used any of these USB keyboards with the N7? If so, if the tablet is placed on the stand in portrait mode, does the cable reach the USB port? I assume they're not full-travel keys but do people find them ok for touch typing? Do any of them suck the battery or are they usable for hours at a time?
Does anyone have any recommendations for better keyboards?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Afunta-Tabl...2OF4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Leather-Key...XMEO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDE-Tablet-...0EBQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-5
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Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard. If I were you I would get one of the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Univer...768&sr=8-12&keywords=bluetooth+keyboard+stand
(This is what i purchased ---->) http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...183895&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=zagg+keys+flex
(There's a review on this keyboard on this forum. You can get this on eBay for $30) http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...5&sr=1-2&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
I hope i helped. The problem with cheap keyboard cases is that a lot of times they don't work. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
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Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard.
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I think the cases he linked actually would work -- I have one that looks identical, and is indeed functional, though the Nexus tends to slide out the sides of the case.
However, I think you are right; you DO get what you pay for. The keys are bit mushy and so on, the case is huge, etc. Hey, for the price, it might be worth it, though I wouldn't recommend it. I don't have any regrets either, though.
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
Any first hand experience of the Logitech versus the Motorola Xoom keyboard? I like the Logitech case/stand thingy but past that both keyboards are the same size so which is better?
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
Jelster said:
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
Any first hand experience of the Logitech versus the Motorola Xoom keyboard? I like the Logitech case/stand thingy but past that both keyboards are the same size so which is better?
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
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I'm in the same boat - was looking to get an Asus Pad Infinity upon release, but tempted by the Nexus 7 + Logitech combo instead.
Now I'd just need to secure the keyboard in the UK and I'm good to go...!
Jelster said:
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
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I ideally want a keyboard/case combo but everything seems to have too small a keyboard for my liking (I put it down to the size of the Nexus 7). I have seen the Logitech stuff mentioned a few times and I am interested in it although I haven't found anything online. I've been using Logitech computer accessories for years (mouse/keyboard/speakers etc) and I'm always impressed with the build quality and performance. I have an unfortunate habit of not buying cheaper accessories as now I can afford better products and I have experienced the "buy cheap, buy twice" too many times to warrant shelling out £15-£20 on a case that doesn't fit properly or has sub standard build quality. After all, I'm going to be putting a £200 tablet in it.
Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard. If I were you I would get one of the following:
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I would guess none of the keyboards the OP linked would cause any lag at all, since they are all attached to the tablet via USB/OTB
the ones that you link are bluetooth keyboards, which vary in performance greatly.
(The OP here...)
I'd go with the Logitech if there wasn't any lag. I expect a powered BT keyboard would use less of the N7's battery than a USB one. And though the BT keyboard's battery would only last a few hours, I'm sure that would suffice for my use case.
I'd be surprised if Logitech don't bring this keyboard to the UK. They'd miss a lot of sales, IMO.
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Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard.
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actually, they all work. ive got one of them, and it works fine.
pretty much any usb keyboard will work. my thermaltake meka g unit with its cherry black mechanical switches works fine, as does my ducky shine with cherry red mechanical switches and full led backlit powered from the nexus 7 via usb. no notable lag, they all work as expected.
You don't have to buy a keyboard case to get a nice USB keyboard for the tablet. Just about any USB keyboard will work fine as long as you have a USB OTG cable.
That said I also have the Logitech Bluetooth keyboard, and it's one of the best slim keyboards, tablet or otherwise, that I have used. I haven't seen any lag so far, though if you sit really far away from the tablet I suppose you could introduce some signal issues. Usually if your keyboard is lagging, it's either a software issue or the batteries are going dead.
The Logitech keyboard seems pretty nice, but isn't it a bit large for pairing with a 7" tab?
joamiq said:
The Logitech keyboard seems pretty nice, but isn't it a bit large for pairing with a 7" tab?
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You wouldn't want a 7" keyboard to go with it, trust me. It does look a little awkward at first to have the keyboard wider than the tablet in landscape, but no more awkward than the promotional photos of the iPad and its portrait keyboard dock.
I used to have an Asus TF101, and even as a 10" tab the keyboard dock was really cramped, and the keys were about 10% smaller than normal so that they would fit. With the Logitech keyboard you get full size keys, so it feels more natural to type on.
earlyberd said:
You wouldn't want a 7" keyboard to go with it, trust me. It does look a little awkward at first to have the keyboard wider than the tablet in landscape, but no more awkward than the promotional photos of the iPad and its portrait keyboard dock.
I used to have an Asus TF101, and even as a 10" tab the keyboard dock was really cramped, and the keys were about 10% smaller than normal so that they would fit. With the Logitech keyboard you get full size keys, so it feels more natural to type on.
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Yeah, a 7" keyboard would probably be too small to be useful. The Zagg keyboard though looks like it might be a nice compromise. I'm leaning towards that one, as it seems small enough to stick into a large pocket and to fit on, say, an airplane tray table if needed, but big enough that you could type on it for a little while before it got uncomfortable. How portable would you say the Logitech one is?
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Yeah, a 7" keyboard would probably be too small to be useful. The Zagg keyboard though looks like it might be a nice compromise. I'm leaning towards that one, as it seems small enough to stick into a large pocket and to fit on, say, an airplane tray table if needed, but big enough that you could type on it for a little while before it got uncomfortable. How portable would you say the Logitech one is?
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I'd say it's portable enough for most people. It's about the same dimensions as the Zagg keyboard. If you have a full size keyboard somewhere nearby, you can do a good comparison by just measuring the width from the left edge of the left Shift key to the right edge of the right Shift key. That's how wide the Logitech keyboard is, and it's about the same height from the bottom of the space bar to the top of the Function keys on standard keyboards.
I'm looking to get a keyboard for my Nexus 7 to use in my classes. The Logitech Android Keyboard is at the top of my list, but it's slightly more expensive and heavier than others out there. Also, the Motorola Android Keyboard is on sale for $22 today, but doesn't come with a case and may or may not work with the Nexus 7/Jelly Bean. Anyone have any good suggestions or experiences with a keyboard?
I just use an extra mac wireless keyboard that I have... Not the most elegant solution but I like the key board
Nexus 7 | Paranoid Android | Franco Kernel
HTC Sensation | Bruce's CMX | Bruce's Kernel.
I ordered this Tuesday. It will be here tomorrow
I heard Motorola was having a huge sale on line of their keyboards it was originally like $100 but they dropped it down to $23. Don't have a link but I remember seeing it a couple of days ago.
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I use this:
http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-97537-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B004L9LT2E
kennyfool said:
I heard Motorola was having a huge sale on line of their keyboards it was originally like $100 but they dropped it down to $23. Don't have a link but I remember seeing it a couple of days ago.
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I have the motorola and it works really good. Its got some android hotkeys that the other bluetooth keyboards dont have. However the following don't work on JellyBean (or the nexus 7 in particular):
- the messenger hotkey (obviously)
- the browser hotkey
- the menu hotkey (this kinda irritates me. Maybe it depends on the app)
I have the Logitech Android keyboard and it's great! You can get it on Ebay for around $30
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I need a bluetooth keyboard case that can go vertical (for Connectbot VX). This Khomo case looks very promising. Think I'm going to pick it up.
http://www.amazon.com/KHOMO-Rotatin...UTF8&colid=1CMLHFSJH6DG6&coliid=ICJF2QL28MXUL
I recommend the Logitech one, well worth the investment
I recently bought Microsoft Wedge Mobile Bluetooth keyboard which is extremely expensive in my country where import taxes are like nightmares.
It is ios-android-windows 8 compatible ,high quality made. And beautifully designed ... works flawlessly.. In Turkey it costs 70 euros
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I use this http://dx.com/p/wireless-bluetooth-...her-case-for-google-asus-nexus-7-black-156678
It's really small when folded.The keyboard is stable.Keys are working fine they make a solid impression.
Much faster than the on-screen keyboard even when I am just starting to use it.
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I recommend the Logitech one, well worth the investment
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Its too big and then you must carry two discrete pieces. That's a nonstarter for many. I require an integrated keyboard / case solution.
FWIW, I purchased one such product at Amazon today: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009S...175-7600503-0167501?ref_=cm_cr_pr_product_top
It seems to be a bit thinner than the also cool kybd / case folios like benchmark9 shared. Doesn't have a tab key but I can emulate it with External Keyboard Helper Pro.
Hoping for some better products like these from Zagg, Logitech, or even Google. MS Surface has some great keyboard cases eh...
Im still thinking about getting a N7, and if i do, i will want a keyboard. I really like what ive seen about the Logitech one, but im wondering if theres any fixes to make all the shortcut keys to work or if Logitech will ever update it....
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Im still thinking about getting a N7, and if i do, i will want a keyboard. I really like what ive seen about the Logitech one, but im wondering if theres any fixes to make all the shortcut keys to work or if Logitech will ever update it....
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What shortcut keys?
I'm a huge fan of the Poetic Keybook.
I know that a lot has been written to the contrary, but I'm a huge fan. It took a little getting used to, but once I got it down, the keyboard is excellent. I cant do the separate keyboard simply for the fact that I would need to carry it in a bag or something.
The poetic keybook solved this issue, as it is an all in one case/keyboard with removable keyboard if need be.
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Nexus 7 Keyboard
It is very good looking and cool. This is Aluminum Case and Wireless
Bluetooth Keyboard for Google
Nexus 7 .It will protect the front screen and the typing also so easy. Hope my recommendation helps.
I bet its made of plastic. Same keyboard at brando.com for 30$ and they coreected aluminium by plastic. Ebay is offering from 22$ shipped from HK.
I have looked at the keyboards (from the posted links) and some on amazon. i really like the ones where the keyboard and nexus 7 fit into one nice/small case:
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Google-Tablet/dp/B00A23LEPA/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk
but the keyboard seem SOOO small. what do you guys think? What you go with something like above or one of the large leather cases with a bigger keyboard?
thank you in advance for any input you can provide.
Thats the price tag ... small case houses small keyboard. And I have to correct me, even on Amazon below 20 bucks ...
http://www.amazon.com/Exact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Rubberized-Non-Slip/dp/B00AD9RLJ6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_17
UPDATE: new price ... from 19.95 to 22.95
7" Tablet Stand with USB Keyboard
Bought it along with tablet. Neat gadget, much better than trying to use tablet keyboard. Good price too, stylus included.
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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I purchased the Khomo keyboard case and I was going to return it. They actually gave it to me half off to review it so it cost me like $17. I can tell you the build quality is pretty nice along with its look but, it has some stability issues. The keyboard was terrible since I had already purchased the zagg flex keyboard/stand. After using zaggs keyboard the khomo keyboard pales in comparison to the functionality of what the zagg keyboard offers. These are tablets not laptops and the keyboard should be designed with that in mind. The screen on/off function works as it is supposed to when closed and opened. Also I noticed that it was hard to close fully. The magnetic area had to be pulled tightly to align with the other magnets for it to close securely. It closes easily without the nexus 10 inside but with it the added depth just causes it to take a little more effort than what should be needed to fully close it. The keyboard is removable and bluetooth connectivity worked as it should with no issues. I guess it may be a good deal for some but after using the Zagg Flex Keyboard I would easily recommend it even without it being a case over the Khomo. I got the Zagg for $37 and made a thread a while back of where to find it if still available at that price. If requested I can still upload the first reaction video I made of it to youtube.
Also rotation to portrait is iffy because you cannot get it in a position I would deem useful. If I want portrait I pretty much want it standin straight not at an angle. Videos are uploading though for those who may want to look at it. Thanks to Khomo for the discount and support them. They may produce better designs after a few drafts.
Thanks momulah.. it seems like the khomo has the same removable keyboard as the 3 other ones I linked.
What problems are you having with the keyboard? Just the F keys or are there other issues?
Which ZAGG keyboard by the way? It seems like they have several, ranging from $70-$100+ and they look possibly less portable?
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Royal2000H said:
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
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Komodo Rogue;36292779
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Here's a link to a review, the first link on google when I searched for k810: PC mag review
They gave it a great review, thanks for the suggestion It looks really nice, I personally love chiclet keys, and illuminated keys make a big difference.
But still, I feel like having mouse input would be incredibly helpful, especially if it supports gestures.
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Thanks for your post!
Interestingly enough, your Poetic case looks like it has a small hole for the notification light. Maybe the Amazon picture is wrong.
I rarely (if ever) use the right shift key, so that's not an issue for me. But the squeezing of the home key to the left of the enter key is really an odd design decision! I use Home & End a lot on my laptop, so it's nice that the keyboard includes them (usually they're first to be left off!) but the placement is indeed questionable.
Clearly it's a generic keyboard due to the odd F key layout. Who needs F1-12 keys on an Android-specific keyboard? I just wonder if there's a way to hack the firmware or maybe even something on the tablet side to reverse the need to press the Fn key. Seems like it would be a nice project, but I'm not sure I have the time for it.
@Komodo - I agree that all keyboard cases are going to be bulkier. I do already have a normal case, so I think I would just switch off between keyboard case and the normal one depending on my needs for that day. So that being said, for my uses, a slim/portable keyboard is more useful.
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA. But I bought it for my laptop when doubling as a HTPC.
I don't see the point in a touch pad. far easier to touch the screen, I prefer a mouse over touchpad too.
I just ordered the iHome Universal Bluetooth Keyboard then I can have the option to use an usb sd card or a mouse simultaneously. I think staying with bluetooth is a better way to go.
Use code A4C5OFF and standard shipping, $2, for a $24.75 out the door price.
For me, a keyboard is a seldom used item with a tablet. It was hard to find reviews for it but at more than half the price of the logitech android keyboard, why not?
I wonder if this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper will solve the problem with having to press fn + function-key to use the android specific keys?
It was recommended for a different keyboard in another thread. Anyone with the khomo/poetic/etc keyboard able to test? The app description said there is a demo too.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA.
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
Was anyone able to try the app to see if it can improve the keyboard?
Maybe momulah or tct08 or Komodo Rogue ?
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
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I've read that the K400 keyboard is supported by version 4.3 and later.
I just ordered my Nexus 10, and now I am looking for a solution that would allow my to type with Nexus 10 resting on my lap. It seems keyboard cases are not fit for this purpose, am I right? Another option I was thinking about was some bluetooth wireless keyboard with a stand (like Logitech). But I am afraid this one will not be fit also, - it is probably best for typing at the desk or smth.
Could anyone please give me your feedbacks if whatever you got for you Nexus 10 allows you to type on you lap?
elgar said:
I just ordered my Nexus 10, and now I am looking for a solution that would allow my to type with Nexus 10 resting on my lap. It seems keyboard cases are not fit for this purpose, am I right? Another option I was thinking about was some bluetooth wireless keyboard with a stand (like Logitech). But I am afraid this one will not be fit also, - it is probably best for typing at the desk or smth.
Could anyone please give me your feedbacks if whatever you got for you Nexus 10 allows you to type on you lap?
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This one has a great feel while typing, very similar to a laptop. It is not a case, but the built in stand gives a secure feeling while in use on your lap. It does go to sleep when not being used, but reconnects quickly.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YUX1LE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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This one has a great feel while typing, very similar to a laptop. It is not a case, but the built in stand gives a secure feeling while in use on your lap. It does go to sleep when not being used, but reconnects quickly.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YUX1LE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thank you. The downside is that it doesnt fit as a case and is rather expensive. I wonder how are other keyboard cases like minisuit compared to this one? I am talking about the quality of the keyboard itself and its ability to handle fast typing.