Does anyone else obsess over tiny imperfections? - Galaxy Tab S General

When it comes to expensive new technology I tend to obsess over the tiniest imperfection. The miniscule hairline scratch on an otherwise flawless screen. That single piece of dust that always manages to get under your screen protector despite using a hazmat clean room to install it. That little nick on the metal edge. All of this drives me nuts. Once it's there my shiny new tablet is no longer pristine and perfect. It's like the first ding on your new BMW. After that it just isn't the same.
Well today I traded my new white 10.5 book cover, which was flawless except that I decided I didn't like white for a case, for a new titanium cover. Now I'm one of these guys that can choose from 10 cases and I'll ALWAYS pick the one with the defect. I never fails. Anyway loving the case, get it home and put it on. Only then do I notice that there is the equivalent of a screen protector dust particle trapped under the skin on the front. One tiny little raised dot in the middle of an otherwise perfect case. Sigh, and now I must obsess. I will endure it for a day or two then finally return it for a PERFECT one. I know me. Probably why BestBuy has wanted posters of me on their front door .
Why do I even care? Anyone else like this?

mitchellvii said:
When it comes to expensive new technology I tend to obsess over the tiniest imperfection. The miniscule hairline scratch on an otherwise flawless screen. That single piece of dust that always manages to get under your screen protector despite using a hazmat clean room to install it. That little nick on the metal edge. All of this drives me nuts. Once it's there my shiny new tablet is no longer pristine and perfect. It's like the first ding on your new BMW. After that it just isn't the same.
Well today I traded my new white 10.5 book cover, which was flawless except that I decided I didn't like white for a case, for a new titanium cover. Now I'm one of these guys that can choose from 10 cases and I'll ALWAYS pick the one with the defect. I never fails. Anyway loving the case, get it home and put it on. Only then do I notice that there is the equivalent of a screen protector dust particle trapped under the skin on the front. One tiny little raised dot in the middle of an otherwise perfect case. Sigh, and now I must obsess. I will endure it for a day or two then finally return it for a PERFECT one. I know me. Probably why BestBuy has wanted posters of me on their front door .
Why do I even care? Anyone else like this?
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My poster at BB is for always looking out for returns so I can get something I want cheaper. They are ready to crown me "king". So long as what was returned is in more than acceptable shape and does not deter from the product's use, why not.
BTW, which BB are you returning it to?

mitchellvii said:
When it comes to expensive new technology I tend to obsess over the tiniest imperfection. The miniscule hairline scratch on an otherwise flawless screen. That single piece of dust that always manages to get under your screen protector despite using a hazmat clean room to install it. That little nick on the metal edge. All of this drives me nuts. Once it's there my shiny new tablet is no longer pristine and perfect. It's like the first ding on your new BMW. After that it just isn't the same.
Well today I traded my new white 10.5 book cover, which was flawless except that I decided I didn't like white for a case, for a new titanium cover. Now I'm one of these guys that can choose from 10 cases and I'll ALWAYS pick the one with the defect. I never fails. Anyway loving the case, get it home and put it on. Only then do I notice that there is the equivalent of a screen protector dust particle trapped under the skin on the front. One tiny little raised dot in the middle of an otherwise perfect case. Sigh, and now I must obsess. I will endure it for a day or two then finally return it for a PERFECT one. I know me. Probably why BestBuy has wanted posters of me on their front door .
Why do I even care? Anyone else like this?
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All they had was a white one at my store. Youre lucky they had the other colors.

LOL I am not even going to look for imperfections in mine now. I'm afraid I would obsess over it too.
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haha this level of obsession reminds me of my x-men comic collection back in high school and it was costly for someone who has to keep within his allowance

I spent a good hour applying my screen protector. I cannot accept any dust, bubbles, etc. I think the prep time takes longer that the actual preparation. I turn the shower on full hot and steam up the bathroom. After its good and foggy in there I turn the water off and close the door. The steam seems to take the dust out of the air. After about 15 minutes, I will go in and carefully apply the protector. There is good lighting in there so I can see anything that gets trapped under the protector. Works pretty well for me as I no longer go through several protectors trying to get it just right. I do obsess over the smallest imperfection. Call it OCD, being anal, or whatever. I just can't enjoy something as well if I know there's a flaw. Having said that, I absolutely happy with my titanium Tab S 10.5 and book cover so far. :fingers-crossed:

rsfinsrq said:
I spent a good hour applying my screen protector. I cannot accept any dust, bubbles, etc. I think the prep time takes longer that the actual preparation. I turn the shower on full hot and steam up the bathroom. After its good and foggy in there I turn the water off and close the door. The steam seems to take the dust out of the air. After about 15 minutes, I will go in and carefully apply the protector. There is good lighting in there so I can see anything that gets trapped under the protector. Works pretty well for me as I no longer go through several protectors trying to get it just right. I do obsess over the smallest imperfection. Call it OCD, being anal, or whatever. I just can't enjoy something as well if I know there's a flaw. Having said that, I absolutely happy with my titanium Tab S 10.5 and book cover so far. :fingers-crossed:
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Best way to apply a screen protector to a large device is by placing the protector on the screen in the proper position then apply a strip of masking tape to the left edge attaching it to the tablet. Then once all dust is cleared, lift the protector up and peel away the backing as you let the hinge hold it steady. Watch for any little dust particle as you slowly apply the protector and use another piece of tape to remove them. Once applied just remove the tape hinge. Perfect placement, no dust .

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My review on invsibleSHIELD and zaGGskin

Hey everyone,
I recently purchases a custom zagg skin and the invsibleSHIELD ,
The zaggskin is easy to put on the back of your HD2 , its a little bit smaller, but that makes the process of putting it on easier (It took me like 2 min?),
Before the invsibleSHIELD I tried various screen-protectors , but I always had bubbles or dust underneath them.
With the invsibleSHIELD I just followed instructions , and volla , no airbubles, no dust , its makes the screen even brighter.
One negative point about it, its pricey , i ordered mine during Memorial Day (50 percent off),
Regards,
PS: Sorry for my bad english
How can a cover make the screen brighter? Are these skins polarized or something? I'm curious.
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
invisible shield
i wont take the chance of scratching my screen even if its impossible
invisible shield is not only on the front but on the back too.
its less sensitive for oily fingerprints - maybe that is why it looks a little bit brighter than without. before i had it, it was difficult to see in sunlight and now its better.
plus, the device wont slip of your hand, again do to the back cover.
so, i recommend invisible shield sincerely
cheers
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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
unni3063 said:
My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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No problems here, and the screen protector isn't that thick, its just even thick like any other screen protector ,
Munto said:
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search.
Spending $10-20 on a quality screen protector is probably the cheapest insurance you could get to protect your screen if/when you scratch the protector and the scratch becomes unbearable, spend $10-20 on a new one
Though Ive not seen one before for mobile phones, there are privacy screens for laptop/desktop monitors. These screens significantly blur the image unless you are directly in front of the screen, if you tilt the screen more than 10degrees or so the screen will blur. These are used a lot in medical/financial institutions, sensitive departments within companies like HR. Ive seen these appearing on ATMs now too
I will agree there is no protector that will make your screen "brighter" that's just about impossible, anything put over the screen is actually going to attenuate any light coming though it, though it may not be perceivable. Certain protectors may eliminate screen glare, making the screen easier to see in certain lighting conditions
ohhh yeah, believe me the screen CAN be scratched! got two very nice ones to prove it. lol
d0ug said:
The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search. ....
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Well about the brighter , i have the the shield now for a week, the screen looks better because there are no fingerprints on the screen , further its scrolls smoother
Sorry but I'd stay clear from Zagg's Invisible Shiled as it is not really effective nor fully stand their claim "as advertised".
After 3-4 months of use (in tropical countries or desert areas), the sands/dirts snug into the linings, then started to peel off little by little.
Had this product on my Fuze and then my Topaz a while back, not very happy about it.
The only good things about the product is (1)fancy retail packaging, and (2)their screen protector. Sorry.
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
erosennin said:
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
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It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
Dangerously said:
It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
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How many times there have to be said that this capacitive screen is not made from GLASS, there are enough people one the web which HD2 got scratched, believe they will scratch
I have the full body zagg skin. Gotta say it's great. Simple to apply and really keeps the device from getting scratched. Even protects the corner. Don't get what the complaint above was about. It covers the screen so wtf are you talking about? Only thing I wish they'd fix is that you can't apply a skin or case over it. If you do it'll get stuck to it unless it's like a cloth case or something. Hope they fix that issue one day. Still not bad, plus I did like the OP and ordered on Memorial Day for like 12 dollars.
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
thanks
ilordvader said:
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
thanks
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ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
Jalaluddin said:
ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
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Thanks for reply
Can someone post some pics
front & back to get a idea how it looks
Thanks
Glue softens
I have to say I was happy for around 5 months - until it started to get warmer. Then the glue started to soften and smear out from under the shield. It made the screen look a bit of a mess and ultimatly the corners started to flap about because all of the glue had gone. Contacted Zagg customer support and they admitted this can happen when warm and humid. They suggested I use their replacement service but why should I pay around 6€ for postage in both directions if as soon as it gets warm it will be a mess again. Not very impressed. I'll stick to the electrostatic screen shields in the future. Can anybody recommend one?

Bestskinsever and the Nexus S

Well as soon as I ordered my Nexus S, I also placed an order for a full body BSE skin. I was in Hong Kong at the time and had it shipped to my Canadian address so I could apply it upon my return. A week after ordering it, I noticed BSE started a BOGO promotion which kind of made me but whatever....
Finally after weeks of walking on eggshells using the phone naked worrying about everything and anything scratching it, I returned home and was able to apply the BSE.
I cracked open the envelope, and to my surprise, there were 2 sets of skins inside! Thanks BSE!! They really are an amazing company when it comes to customer service/everything, (I had a mistake with a previous order and they promptly rectified it by sending the proper skin) this time they knew they had an upcoming BOGO promotion and they simply honoured that for me, no questions asked (literally!) so a big cudos to them for that.
Onto the product.....the fit is AMAZING. Considering this skin was available on launch day, thats a pretty impressive feat on its own. I was originally intending on just using the back skin, but once I saw how well done the full body was, I decided to do it all.
The skin includes 1 large cover for the back, and again, fit is perfect. Cutouts for the camera/flash, the speaker, and the USB/mic on the bottom. Also includes a full front skin, again with cutouts for speaker and cam. Lastly, it includes 3 strips, one for the top, and 2 for the sides, meeting at the bottom.
Installation was a breeze, did it in a steamy bathroom for the first time and I think it really helped. I used a big bowl of warm water and 1 tiny drop of dish soap for the 'solution', dipping each piece in this fully before beginning the application.
How does it look? Amazing. 24 hours later there are a FEW tiny bubbles still, but from past experience, I know these will go away within a few more days as the skin starts to cure. The skin is porous so if you get a few bubbles, don't worry, they will evaporate just give it some time. Phone feels great now, has a real solid feel, almost as solid as my Nexus one, and has nice grip to boot. No more worrying about the thing sliding out of my hands.
Only complaint I have is, the screen is VERY glossy now, if there is direct light, reflections are pretty bad. I may remove the front protector in time if this starts to piss me off more, but I think I will be ok as the insane amount of protection I now have is probably well worth a bit of gloss, just being honest. I really like the fact my phone is now *extremely* well protected. From past experience with shields, I can attest to the fact they WILL protect it from a drop of around 5 feet (my iphone fell right out of my pocket onto hard asphalt....the corner of the skin looked like ass after that drop, but upon removal, the iPhone was still perfect), anything higher than that and well.....you dug your own grave....most shields/cases would be useless after a 10ft drop to begin with sooooo.....combine this with general care and your Nexus S should be mint for years to come. I hate big ugly cases, and keep it all nice and snug in my old Nexus One sleeve, I feel *extremely* confident about the phones protection.
All in all, great product, and extremely happy overall. I feel great knowing I have a spare in my drawer for in the future, in case I DO drop the thing again......Dont have pics yet as, well, the Nexus S is pretty much my camera I'll dig out my HTC Aria and try and post some pics soon.
For 9 bucks, this is probably the deal of the year HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
Nice to read, ordered my BSE skins last friday. I already have some small scratches on the plastic back cover, but they are only visible in direct sunlight with reflection.
Guess the skins will be nice then.
ViLANDER said:
Nice to read, ordered my BSE skins last friday. I already have some small scratches on the plastic back cover, but they are only visible in direct sunlight with reflection.
Guess the skins will be nice then.
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Haha I did also get a tiny scratch on the back my phone also by accidentally putting it in the days designated 'change' pocket (dammit), and dropping it off my bed after playing with it one night hdjbfsdg
The shield covered them completely....keeps looking better by the hour literally as it cures.
can someone post a link to the product. not sure what I am looking for.
http://www.bestskinsever.com/google-nexus-s-skin
Here are the promised pics, sorry about the poor quality, the camera being used is an Aria...
Blimey spaceman...are u sure there's a BSE on there?...lol...can't wait for mine now..
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Does the total body skin include the screen skin? Or do I have to buy both of them if I want to cover the NS ENTIRELY?
I got mine just today! Excellent! I am really very surprised at the quality considering this is half the price of the likes of zagg.
Here is BSE on my HD7, I have an order in for my NS already.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but does this screen protector have the same type of texture as the InvisibleShield ones? (orange-peel texture/bumpy).
How's the friction on these? Smooth or sorta sticky?
justsignbythex said:
Sorry if this has been asked before, but does this screen protector have the same type of texture as the InvisibleShield ones? (orange-peel texture/bumpy).
How's the friction on these? Smooth or sorta sticky?
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It is basically the same material as the InvisibleShield ones....so your mileage will vary on how it looks when it comes to bumps and orange peel. I have been using these 'shield' type protectors on my last few devices, and the number 1 thing I learned is the end result is entirely up to how well the installation goes. The first time I installed one back on my iPhone it looked pretty bad at first, but again after a few days it cleared up for the most part. This time I installed mine in a steamy bathroom and was meticulously anal during application, and it looks great.
They do give a bit of grip, but nothing that impedes touchscreen performance IMHO. The phone feels a lot safer and a lot more secure in my hand now thats for sure, and ultimately thats the reason I put this thing on in the first place
I've tried the Zagg screen protector on my Nexus S when i first got it from Best Buy since it was the only screen protector out at the time and it sucked...the orange peel was terrible and the screen was really grippy and not smooth to use. I got my BSE a few days ago and it looks less bumpy but the biggest advantage is that the screen is actually smooth when you use it. I have no complaints about BSE and heck it's only 9 bucks with shipping for the full body while zagg was 20 bucks for just the screen
Did you take the back off for installation?
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Just installed mine. Easy installation and fantastic finish - can't even tell it's there after 24 hours.
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How did you apply yours? I'm scared that the water will fall into the speaker hole at the back.
Did u use soap + water?
tempera said:
How did you apply yours? I'm scared that the water will fall into the speaker hole at the back.
Did u use soap + water?
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I only applied a protector to the screen. Yes, I added a tiny drop of dishsoap and used a spray bottle to apply a fine mist of water to the screen protector. Laid it on and then used a microfiber cloth to work out any bubbles.
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I bought a full body BSE and mucked it up. I applied it dry since I've never done a BSE before. The back is okay with some bubbles and dust, but the front was a mess. I replaced it with an eBay matte antiglare one now. It does the job but dulls the screen. On the plus side the screen is fingerprint resistant now and feels smooth.
To answer some of the recent questions
Yes I removed the back before applying the skin to the back, just made it so much easier.
As mentioned before I used a bowl of warm water with the smallest drop of dish soap inside. I then dipped the skins completely in the water and gave them a bit of a shake, that was it for the water. I had a paper towel handy and as I squeegied the water out I always had the paper towel with light pressure on the back to absorb any and all water leakage.
I also did it in my bathroom with the shower cranked on full heat with the doors+window+fan all closed. The hot steamy environment made it MUCH easier due to the fact there was no dust/hair/whatever flying around. Made for a painless application, and it looks great.
Here we are a few weeks later and the skin looks absolutely amazing now. Not a single air bubble, all gone. Its near impossible to tell the skin is here unless you know its there, or notice the seams on the corners. Love love love love love love love this skin. Would never ever throw a bulky case on my phone after using this.
How is the feel on the screen? Is it rubbery like the ZAGG ones or smooth like Clarivue ones or somewhere in between?
spacemanspiff33 said:
To answer some of the recent questions
Yes I removed the back before applying the skin to the back, just made it so much easier.
As mentioned before I used a bowl of warm water with the smallest drop of dish soap inside. I then dipped the skins completely in the water and gave them a bit of a shake, that was it for the water. I had a paper towel handy and as I squeegied the water out I always had the paper towel with light pressure on the back to absorb any and all water leakage.
I also did it in my bathroom with the shower cranked on full heat with the doors+window+fan all closed. The hot steamy environment made it MUCH easier due to the fact there was no dust/hair/whatever flying around. Made for a painless application, and it looks great.
Here we are a few weeks later and the skin looks absolutely amazing now. Not a single air bubble, all gone. Its near impossible to tell the skin is here unless you know its there, or notice the seams on the corners. Love love love love love love love this skin. Would never ever throw a bulky case on my phone after using this.
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Recommended screen protector

I never usually buy screen protectors for my devices, but since I'll be using this phone for a full two years, I think I should try to prevent as many scratches as possible. Can anyone recommend a good brand of screen protectors? I saw that Motorola makes an official one but it's $15.
I would like to know too didn't see any good ones out yet. I had spiegen for s4 and used indivisible shield before.
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I too like to use a name brand screen protector like Spigen. I went with the Verizon brand ones off of a recommendation from someone. 3 for $12, they're decent enough as a stopgap until bigger companies put theirs out. Of course, since Moto X is the same for all carriers, you can still order them even if not Verizon.
Halo. Look them up on Amazon. Feels just like glass
had invisashield but its cut horribly, testing the skinomi so far so good cheap/effective/cut perfectly
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Grabbed the Skinomi (at...1 cent? + shipping it was a no brainer!) but seems to pick up pocket lint (after having been on for 24 hours+), which is a problem I've never had before with any other screen protector. Also has some...I don't want to say bubbles, because they're not, but..ripples? ... near the bottom, which are noticeable when the screen is off. That said, the touch is just fine and besides those little issues at the bottom, it looks decent.
Have a few others to try that'll by here early next week.
I am waiting to find a tempered glass protector, I like how much more original it feels plus its much stronger than a sheet of plastic
Ordered the i-blason screen protectors and they should be in tomorrow, I'll give my take on em once I get them.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E0...040_30332190_pe_175190_21431760_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
Ordered and received my Halo protectors from Amazon. They are awful, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. The cut was terrible, and none of the 3 worked out. They felt like they were almost too long as well, having lift at either the top or bottom without a way to make it go away. Gonna get some from VZW as I hear they are good.
I only use halo. Mine is cut and fits perfect. Clarity is good and its feels just like the glass does
Just got my I-Blason screen protectors in. Took me all 3 just to get one without bubbles but the screen protector feels good and is very clear. Cut is a little small though so you gotta perfectly center the screen protector. Also for the top where the speaker and front camera is they just cut out a whole section instead of just the holes for the two.
I don't like wet installs (Zagg, and I think Skinomi is one too). I've used them in the past and have always encountered streaks despite drying, cloudy screens, or the dreaded orange peel (looking at you, Zagg).
I much prefer dry installs. The Verizon protectors are actually really good, surprisingly. Just turn on the hot shower for a few minutes, let it steam up, then install. Quite easy. The screen isn't clouded at all and still feels smooth as glass.
I love my Zagg HD. When/if they come out with a Zagg Extreme I will be buying one of those.
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Any tempered glass yet ?
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Yazzinit said:
I don't like wet installs (Zagg, and I think Skinomi is one too). I've used them in the past and have always encountered streaks despite drying, cloudy screens, or the dreaded orange peel (looking at you, Zagg).
I much prefer dry installs. The Verizon protectors are actually really good, surprisingly. Just turn on the hot shower for a few minutes, let it steam up, then install. Quite easy. The screen isn't clouded at all and still feels smooth as glass.
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I have never heard of this "hot shower steam up" method. Can anyone elaborate on why I would do that?
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I have never heard of this "hot shower steam up" method. Can anyone elaborate on why I would do that?
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Sure. Have you ever personally tried installing a dry protector say, in your room and you keep getting a few specs of dust under it? Well if you haven't, that's what happens lol. Really annoying, you get the protector down and that 1 spec flies in and you didn't see it, now you have to remove the film and try again, and some are impossible to get the dust off of the sticky side.
In the shower, you run a hot shower 10 minutes, then turn it off. Leave the door open just a small crack. Apparently, the steam causes the dust to rise with it, or fall, whatever the science is lol. Makes for no dust in the air to fall on your screen and allows for installing a dry protector really easy. Wipe with a microfiber cloth and install right there.
Yazzinit said:
Sure. Have you ever personally tried installing a dry protector say, in your room and you keep getting a few specs of dust under it? Well if you haven't, that's what happens lol. Really annoying, you get the protector down and that 1 spec flies in and you didn't see it, now you have to remove the film and try again, and some are impossible to get the dust off of the sticky side.
In the shower, you run a hot shower 10 minutes, then turn it off. Leave the door open just a small crack. Apparently, the steam causes the dust to rise with it, or fall, whatever the science is lol. Makes for no dust in the air to fall on your screen and allows for installing a dry protector really easy. Wipe with a microfiber cloth and install right there.
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Wow! I definitely will try this next time bc I always get dust under mine. Thanks.
Yazzinit said:
Sure. Have you ever personally tried installing a dry protector say, in your room and you keep getting a few specs of dust under it? Well if you haven't, that's what happens lol. Really annoying, you get the protector down and that 1 spec flies in and you didn't see it, now you have to remove the film and try again, and some are impossible to get the dust off of the sticky side.
In the shower, you run a hot shower 10 minutes, then turn it off. Leave the door open just a small crack. Apparently, the steam causes the dust to rise with it, or fall, whatever the science is lol. Makes for no dust in the air to fall on your screen and allows for installing a dry protector really easy. Wipe with a microfiber cloth and install right there.
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Just to clarify: Do not actually have your phone in the shower, just in the room with the shower.
Anyone had any experience with either of these two screen protector brands?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E5QKHOY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3LQSX85N730QN
http://www.amazon.com/IQ-Shield-LIQ...7061&sr=8-13&keywords=moto+x+screen+protector
I just ordered a pack of five from amazon. Were cheap but I'm sure I'll get at least one that works. I have tried Zagg and Armor Suit and hated them both. Went naked for awhile on my S3 and just had one tiny scratch. I work around metal and grinding dust all day and only had that one scratch. Never put one on my S4 but only had it a few days. If you have to keep the phone for two years, then a screen protector maybe good for a while IMO.
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FesterTOR said:
I just ordered a pack of five from amazon. Were cheap but I'm sure I'll get at least one that works. I have tried Zagg and Armor Suit and hated them both. Went naked for awhile on my S3 and just had one tiny scratch. I work around metal and grinding dust all day and only had that one scratch. Never put one on my S4 but only had it a few days. If you have to keep the phone for two years, then a screen protector maybe good for a while IMO.
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What did you hate about Zagg and Armor Suit?

Does Zagg still make a wet application protector?

I have always used invisible shield on my devices. One reason was the wet application method their protectors use. I always have issues with dust, no matter what I do, but the application solution seems to rinse the dust out with it when you install the wrap. With a dry install if a single piece of dust lands on the screen on the install you're screwed.
Anyway, does anyone know if any of the Zagg (or other brand) protectors use a wet install?
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Ghost armor does. Not sure why you would want one though.. way too much friction for something with a stylus.
Goronok said:
Ghost armor does. Not sure why you would want one though.. way too much friction for something with a stylus.
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Would you say I'm ok without a screen protector then? I'm not one to throw my phone in my pocket with my keys or anything. I keep it in a pocket by itself. I would like one of the glass protectors but I've seen way too many bad things about them due to the screen being curved and causing a "halo" effect.
The "original" on their website I think. But that would be badddd with the pen.
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The "original" on their website I think. But that would be badddd with the pen.
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I remember the original being pretty sticky feeling on my old iPhone. I just bought an HDX Defense, but it is a dry install as I referenced above. Its pretty clear and almost as smooth as glass, but I couldn't get it on without any dust. I ALMOST did but one big piece hit the screen just as I was laying it down, and I ruined the protector getting the dust off. I'll be sending in for replacement to try again but I just don't see how I could ever get one of these on without a single piece of dust. When I clean off my phone and watch if for about 5 seconds I get 10-15 little dust particle in that amount of time..... Ugh.
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I remember the original being pretty sticky feeling on my old iPhone. I just bought an HDX Defense, but it is a dry install as I referenced above. Its pretty clear and almost as smooth as glass, but I couldn't get it on without any dust. I ALMOST did but one big piece hit the screen just as I was laying it down, and I ruined the protector getting the dust off. I'll be sending in for replacement to try again but I just don't see how I could ever get one of these on without a single piece of dust. When I clean off my phone and watch if for about 5 seconds I get 10-15 little dust particle in that amount of time..... Ugh.
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I do mine right in the bathroom after a shower. The steam helps keep the dust manageable. Also, use the tape hinge method so you can do it really fast after it's clean.
What is this tape hinge method? Also, I ran a ton of hot water in the bathroom to get the steam really going. It helped but I still got one piece of dust in there. =[ Probably took me about 15 seconds to apply, if I could do it in 3-4 seconds I could probably avoid all the dust.
I got the skinomi skin for my screen and its great. fits perfectly and no dust particles. it is not as smooth as glass or the plasticy screen protector, but I can do everything fine. prefer this over halos and dust around the halos.
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What is this tape hinge method? Also, I ran a ton of hot water in the bathroom to get the steam really going. It helped but I still got one piece of dust in there. =[ Probably took me about 15 seconds to apply, if I could do it in 3-4 seconds I could probably avoid all the dust.
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It's popular for sticking decals on cars n such. Once you place the protector where you want it, make a hinge out of a piece of tape. Fold back the protector, peel off the backing, and use the hinge to put the protector back on in the same place it was taped. Here's a video.
I wouldn't mind having one for the glass back. It would add some nice grip.
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tbh if you just don't abuse the phone you should be fine without a protector. After reading an article about it back when I had a Galaxy S3, I peeled my Zagg protector off and didn't even use one on the Note 3. After 2 years of heavy daily use, the Note 3 looked nearly brand new - only a few extremely light small scratches viewable from certain angles with just the right lighting. I will definitely not be using anything on the Note 5 for that reason.
I have a desk job though, and am generally careful with everything i own, however. My step brother on the other hand... he delivers/installs large home appliances. In the last 3 years he utterly destroyed 2 Galaxy S4's and an iPhone 5 because he doesn't take care of his stuff at all (both S4's had smashed screens, camera lenses etc destroyed through a full Otterbox Defender case).
In any case - I too would strongly advise against a Zagg wet protector on a phone with a stylus. It would basically make the stylus unusable.
If i recall correctly, the reason they discontinued the wet application was people were applying it improperly and causing damage to their phones.
Basically they stopped selling them to cover their butts from lawsuits.

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So after going through many TGSPs and finding pretty much all of them terrible, I found a off-the-wall solution that seems to tic off all of the major check marks for me:
Smooth glass-like surface
Great touchscreen sensitivity
Great optical clarity
Won't peel off (obviously)
Turns out, it's not just one solution, but a combination of two different screen protectors used in conjunction. This might be a long post but stay with me here.
First thing I tried long ago was the wet-apply TPU stuff from IQ-Shield. It's actually a great product if you put it on properly and is fairly inexpensive. The application might be a pain for some (I didn't mind it so much). But I'd always hated the texture and tackiness of the surface. Also, it's aways a bit sharp at the edges that it bothered me to hold it. And strangely, these are easy to scratch. The scratches really show on them too. They're also smudge magnet and look terrible unless thoroughly clean.
Then I tried all of the major TGSPs on the market (GPEL, ZAGG, AmazingThing and a few cheaper stuff) and while many of them looked great, the glare and touchscreen sensitivity was always anywhere between inadequate to terrible.
Then I looked in this PET(I think?) plastic stuff from G-Color
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FTUB74S..._t1_B01FTUB74I
Turns out this stuff is pretty great. It honestly feels as smooth as glass. Looks like glass. Screen sensitivity was awesome. clarity was amazing. I can also atest to it durability as well. I'd been moving my futon around a bit and had the phone perched on the the backrest. The phone fell onto the metal frame of the futon, glassface first. the impact messed up the screen protector and it got warped at the impact site, but the phone glass was fine. Great start so I ordered another immediately.
But low and behold, after another two weeks or so of usage, the edge began to lift. Turns out the silicone adhesive, which works fine on flat glass, doesn't do so well with curved glass long term.
Disappointed, I thought about ways of giving it extra adhesion then I remembered that the TPU stuff is very tacky. So I washed and re-applied (wet) the IQ-Shield stuff. I let it set until all the air and water bubbles disappeared (about two days). Then I washed the G-Color piece (it had lint and dust stuck on it). I applied that one wet as well (yes you can apply PET protectors wet) right on top of the IQ-Shield. Gave it another few ways days to set and the bubbles disappeared. I was astonished by the results. I got all of the things I was look for above. I tried force peeling the edge off and I was very surprised how hard it was to do. I gave it three weeks and it had been flawless.
I went and bought another G-Color piece (this time in white). Of course taking the first (gold) one off you probably have to reapply the TPU one underneath. A second round of thorough washing and reapplying the IQ-Shield (I didn't have to buy a new one. As long as you wash it correctly with dish soap and are careful, you can reuse them). Once again, let it set over a couple of days.
Since it was the first time I applied the new G-Color piece, I applied it dry as instructed on package. You'd only need to apply the PET stuff wet if you're reapplying for second time after washing. The first time should be dry using the guide stickers. The results were similar (maybe a bit better since I was using a brand new G-Color piece). It's been a month and a half now. Flawless. Well almost: Since I applied the G-Color with white bezel over a black phone, its white part is not as bright-white as it could be. More like a white-grey, but unless you butt it up to another white phone, you won't notice. The gold one looks completely gold.
So now I have a phone protected by two layers. The two layers together are also a bit thinner than a single TGSP. It looks completely like glass and I've been amazed how scratched resistant it has been. They're also smudge and fingerprint resistent.
Another check mark that might matter to some, but not me: Case-friendliness. Those that have such cases, this might not work so well since this goes pretty close to the edge of the glass. It does leave about a .5mm around the edge. I personally would have liked it to go all the way to the edge but I don't know how that would effect the adhesion. None of my cases wrap around the edge of the glass so it never affected me at all.
Hope this helps someone.
Tip: When applying wet after washing with dish soap, try not to completly wash off the dish soap. A bit of dish soap remaining will help you with positioning the protector since it will allow you to slide it around a bit. Once you're in position, pressing down (especially around the home button, ear speaker and camera cut-outs) will hold it in place while you squeegy the remaining water out. I like to use my finger and roll it to push water out. Try not to slide you finger across the surface as it might catch and pull the protector out of position. Don't worry about air or water bubbles too much. They will slowly disappear over a few days.
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Thanks for those VERY complete tips, I shall follow your guidelines reapplying my TGSP!
Just curious how your solution is holding up. I just bought an S7 edge, so I'm in the market for a good screen protection solution. This sounds like a pain, but it also sounds like it may just be worth it!
TIA!

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