1am or 850 mam charger? - Xperia SP Accessories

Hello guys i wanna buy a charger for my sp because its own had been lost. And wanna know which one is better? Z style 1 Amper charger or 850 mAmp like what was in the box?
Is 1 amper chqrger harmful for the battery life?
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MH-Droid said:
Hello guys i wanna buy a charger for my sp because its own had been lost. And wanna know which one is better? Z style 1 Amper charger or 850 mAmp like what was in the box?
Is 1 amper chqrger harmful for the battery life?
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No, it is not harmful and battery will charge faster with 1A charger.

le grande magnetto said:
No, it is not harmful and battery will charge faster with 1A charger.
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Ok so i will buy xz charger..
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MH-Droid said:
Ok so i will buy xz charger..
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But you battery life will decrease...

Silver Wx said:
But you battery life will decrease...
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and what decrease are you talking about?

Slow charging is better for a battery's health - but I wouldn't worry too much about it (especially 850 vs 1000, not much difference there, 500/1000 maybe). Also these are big batteries they can take the higher current.
I think these batteries are good for 500 charge cycles, at which point they start to not perform as well, but even in this state they usually remain very reliable. I've had a li-ion battery for four years that seems as good as the day I bought it.
These batteries work with chemistry though - so there are always environmental differences between users and people do different things with their phones, I think this accounts for some people saying battery life is great, when others say bad.

i use a 2amp charger and i cannot say that the batterylife was shorten. i am using this charger for 6 months with no change in battery life. the only out of the ordinary thing is the battery heats up when charging. like when you play a 3d game.

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Extended Battery

Hi
I was just looking for bigger battery for my 540 and cant find anything apart of this w*w.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lggm750-gt540-optimus-gw620-gw820-gw880-gw825v-p500-optimus-one-gx200-gx500.html#
Any of you have some info on it or maybe use one?.
Peace
P.s *=w
Haven't got one but Mugen make good batteries for others phones.
panoramixus said:
Hi
I was just looking for bigger battery for my 540 and cant find anything apart of this w*w.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lggm750-gt540-optimus-gw620-gw820-gw880-gw825v-p500-optimus-one-gx200-gx500.html#
Any of you have some info on it or maybe use one?.
Peace
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1800mAh isn't much different from 1500mAh
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battery-Li-...HVYM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294271114&sr=8-1
not sure what mAh it is but it says ultra high capacity on it.
flyboyovyick said:
1800mAh isn't much different from 1500mAh
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flyboyovyick said:
not sure what mAh it is but it says ultra high capacity on it.
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mAh = milliAmp hours
IANAEE (electronic engineer) but basically it is a measure of how much energy can be stored within the battery. Think of the number as a measure of how long the battery would run for at a constant draining current of 1mA *or* how quickly you'd have to take power from the battery to drain it completely in one hour.
In other words, using the example above, an 1800mAh battery would last ~20% longer than a 1500mAh.
If your battery would normally last 10 hours, it would now last 12 hours.
As for the original question of info on it / whether this qualifies as 'ultra-high capacity' you'll need to ask someone more familiar with batteries than I am
So has anyone got any experience with the extended battery? Worth the punt?
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I'm gonna have it in 10 days approx. So let u guys know ASAP how is it. (I'm talking about 1800 one)
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Cheers mate, look forward to hearing about it.
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Any news about that battery ? Did the battery life time improved ?
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Any news about that battery ? Did the battery life time improved ?
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Please write some info about that 1800mah batt..
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I'm really interested!
1800mAh won't probably make that much of a difference for Optimus. Optimus has one of the largest batteries for a phone of its kind. 1500mAh itself is pretty high capacity.
I really don't think the extra 45$ is worth the extra 300mAh. You are better off buying an external portable charger. They run at around 20-30$. You could probably get an excellent one for 45$.
For example, this one here,
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP...8PTS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307017732&sr=8-1 has a 5000mAh battery.
Just get any portable USB charger.
What do you think about this battery: 2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY GOLD BATTERY FOR LG GT540 (look for it at ebay)
Is it even possible to have that much mAh?
Edit: Just look at the user rating, and this battery seems to be fake. The stock battery is better.
That must be fake. The highest capacity I have seen is 1800mAh but it's only 300mAh higher than the stock.
G00fY2 said:
What do you think about this battery: 2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY GOLD BATTERY FOR LG GT540 (look for it at ebay)
Is it even possible to have that much mAh?
Edit: Just look at the user rating, and this battery seems to be fake. The stock battery is better.
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the battery is a misterius
I have seen this type of batteries that have a range of longer duration but there are many contradictions if it is good or not, is made in japan maybe that's a plus I'm wanting to buy a battery because the stock I have been short

[Q] How to make charging quick?

Do we have any kernel mod or something for making charge quick than normal?
AFAIK, no.
chasmodo said:
AFAIK, no.
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Thanks for immediate reply.. Am planning to search for higher rating charger ( I mean amp rating) will it make sense? Actually I discussed with xda mates earlier about this sometime ago but not in detailed. So am still in search for answer..
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With higher amp, battery would wear out faster than normal.
Best way to charge faster is to never let battery drop down below 30% - 40%.
This would also extend battery life.
Higher ampere charger will force and stretch your battery. It will work but shorten battery lifetime. You don't mind buying spare battery, right?
kopitalk said:
Higher ampere charger will force and stretch your battery. It will work but shorten battery lifetime. You don't mind buying spare battery, right?
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Yes I don't care.. Cause sometimes I get less duration to charge my phone, so I don't care for battery lifetime but I do care the charge holding time/day..
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chasmodo said:
AFAIK, no.
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This may or may not be related to op's question, but I've been wondering, does the "Enable USB Fastcharge" option available in some of the AOKP-based roms actually work?
The fastest way to make charging quick is to have a fully charged spare battery with you. Then the Note is charged in 20 seconds.
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Zamboney said:
The fastest way to make charging quick is to have a fully charged spare battery with you. Then the Note is charged in 20 seconds.
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FYI a handset cannot be charged... Only a battery.. here topic is about charging a battery..
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priyanv said:
Do we have any kernel mod or something for making charge quick than normal?
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id be very interested in this too as my old htc had a 1.5A charger and a 1250mah battery, the note has a 2500mah battery and only a 1A charger
The note is most likely limited to a maximum charge rate of 800-900ma as the stock chargers only 1000ma
I have a 2100ma usb charger on the way, and with "battery monitor widget pro", it should give me some idea of the maximum charge rate.
http://www.i-luv-uk.co.uk/iAD517BS.html
John.
No, after all, the phone will limit
panyan said:
id be very interested in this too as my old htc had a 1.5A charger
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Did you try using with note???
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x0952060001 said:
No, after all, the phone will limit
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What is limiting??? Is that kernel?
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But more amp charger could probably damage battery life
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
The note is most likely limited to a maximum charge rate of 800-900ma as the stock chargers only 1000ma
I have a 2100ma usb charger on the way, and with "battery monitor widget pro", it should give me some idea of the maximum charge rate.
http://www.i-luv-uk.co.uk/iAD517BS.html
John.
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Wow that one is awesome.. Pls keep updating here about the performance. You made my search easy I can get it here also.. Thanks.
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AC DC said:
But more amp charger could probably damage battery life
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Definitely.. Only those who doesn't care about life but care about charge duration can go for this..
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Simply not a good idea.
The microUSB contacts are rated at 1A max, so any modification to the charge controller to allow charging currents greater than the contact ratings can result in a damaged connector and then your Note will become largely useless.
I understand everyone wants to play and muck about with their Note, but this falls into the category of "A real bad idea" so be warned.
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Do we have any kernel mod or something for making charge quick than normal?
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According to batteryuniversity.com , lin-on/poly battery`s should be charged at between 0.5 and 1C , the Note has a 2.4amp battery , so you could charge it with a 2.4amp, though as i have already mentioned the note is most likely limited to between 800-900mah charge rate.
The good thing about having a powerful charger, is that it will barely get warm, and the components inside will give a much cleaner output, than a low power one, signs of a struggling power supply can be, getting very hot, flickering on the phone that`s being charged`s screen as the power/voltage is fluctuating, also a high pitched noise.
John.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
AC DC said:
But more amp charger could probably damage battery life
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and how long does it take you to charge full from 1%?
When I use 1A charger from HTC it takes me +- 5 hours to full....
With charger from Ipad it takes 1,5 hour
So maybe my battery is dead already???

Is this external battery safe to use with the Xperia z?

Got a new 20000 mah external battery. Please check images and let me know if it's safe to use with the Xperia z.
Thanks!
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Aman27deep said:
Got a new 20000 mah external battery. Please check images and let me know if it's safe to use with the Xperia z.
Thanks!
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yea sure why not? man how big is that thing, 20000mah is alot, I got an anker 9000mah(?) and its big, abut the size of a palm and twice the thickness of a S3/XZ.
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yea sure why not? man how big is that thing, 20000mah is alot, I got an anker 9000mah(?) and its big, abut the size of a palm and twice the thickness of a S3/XZ.
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I asked as my best mate told me " 3.3-4.2 recommended for Z. Charge it once, using the pack. If it heats up, NEVER USE it again."
Anyways, this battery is pretty large... Maybe 3 XZ put together. Weighs in at around 420grams.
I don't think it's actually 20k mAh as I don't trust the Chinese, but if it's even 13k mAh (66%), it's not bad as I got it for 22$.
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Where can i find a similiar thing?
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I asked as my best mate told me " 3.3-4.2 recommended for Z. Charge it once, using the pack. If it heats up, NEVER USE it again."
Anyways, this battery is pretty large... Maybe 3 XZ put together. Weighs in at around 420grams.
I don't think it's actually 20k mAh as I don't trust the Chinese, but if it's even 13k mAh (66%), it's not bad as I got it for 22$.
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it does heat up my S3 with my anker battery, but once it does I just leave it off for 20-30 min and let it charge. dont let the phone completely die or else it wont charge.
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it does heat up my S3 with my anker battery, but once it does I just leave it off for 20-30 min and let it charge. dont let the phone completely die or else it wont charge.
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Alright, thanks
EmeraldTimer said:
Where can i find a similiar thing?
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i got it from eBay - be on the lookout for good deals
This is the review video of the battery - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=visbEFpm7-U
It's awesome.
Now u have super fast multitask phone with unlimited battery.
What else one would need. ??
For me a 3000 mah will be fine.
If u find any good deal, portable size
Plz do tell me.
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karthik0001 said:
It's awesome.
Now u have super fast multitask phone with unlimited battery.
What else one would need. ??
For me a 3000 mah will be fine.
If u find any good deal, portable size
Plz do tell me.
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I bought it from eBay India. It's still in stock. You should check it out.
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charges @ 1A so your fine
Got the same battery . The nice thing is you can also set it to 2A output. Modern electronics like our Xperia will automatically set the max input (1.5A most likely) so you benefit from the extra speed oppose to most 1A external batteries. It's like plugging into the Sony fast-charger. For an external battery speed is important imoh. Especially the XZ charges very fast when on low battery using the fast charger, which is very confenient.
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Got the same battery . The nice thing is you can also set it to 2A output. Modern electronics like our Xperia will automatically set the max input (1.5A most likely) so you benefit from the extra speed oppose to most 1A external batteries. It's like plugging into the Sony fast-charger. For an external battery speed is important imoh. Especially the XZ charges very fast when on low battery using the fast charger, which is very confenient.
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When I try to charge my XZ at 2.1 it doesn't work - it just shuts down. It works at 1 though, do you think my charger is defective?
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When I try to charge my XZ at 2.1 it doesn't work - it just shuts down. It works at 1 though, do you think my charger is defective?
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Not sure. Mine says 2v not 2.1. Maybe you have a little bit different version. Still te capacity and price are nice.
For a 3000mah battery go for nokia dcxx not sure about the model number xx
Portable , tiny, good performance
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bassie112 said:
Not sure. Mine says 2v not 2.1. Maybe you have a little bit different version. Still te capacity and price are nice.
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Thanks mate.
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Question about charger

Hello I have two questions... First is if I can charge all the phones with the fast 1500mah charger of Xperia Z1???
To my old Xperia sp, charger was 850 mah, can I charge an Xperia SP with 1500mah charger?
Yes your phone.will only take as much.current as it needs
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Yes your phone.will only take as much.current as it needs
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so i can charge with the 1500 mah charger a battery that is 1650mah capacity ? but it wil charge FASTER than a normal charger ? that's the point ?
Wait, you are mixing things up! Your Xperia Z1 Charger does supply 1500 mA (which means 1,5 Ampere) of current at 5,0V DC.
Your Xperia S Battery has a Capacity of 1650 mAh (or 1,65 Ampere Hours) which means that it can supply 1,65 Ampere of continuous current for 1 hour (at 5V, I guess)
So: Yes, you can use a bigger charger and it will charge your phone faster, in this case nearly twice as fast. This will not damage your phone, as it will (as already said) just take the maximum current it can make use of.
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So: Yes, you can use a bigger charger and it will charge your phone faster, in this case nearly twice as fast. This will not damage your phone, as it will (as already said) just take the maximum current it can make use of.
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I thought it was the chipset/kernel which had fast charge capabilities, not the charger?
If the phone only takes the maximum current it will make use of, it doesn't matter what the charger is spitting out, the phone will only draw what it needs to.
I could be wrong, but my Nexus 4 charged at exactly the same speed when I used my Nexus 7 charger as it did with the stock charger.
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I thought it was the chipset/kernel which had fast charge capabilities, not the charger?
If the phone only takes the maximum current it will make use of, it doesn't matter what the charger is spitting out, the phone will only draw what it needs to.
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You are perfectly right! And it's also what I wanted to say. Of course if your phone is not able to draw more than 750 mA, a bigger Charger is useless.
But one can safely try it out!

[Q] does higher mAh harm the battery?

the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
NiM72NiK said:
the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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mAh tell you about the capacity of the battery. You can even use 1 million mAh.
..and no it won't harm the phone
It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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crohit911 said:
It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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Battery life has nothing to to with the capacity of the portable battery? What are you talking about.
Every charging reduces the battery life. That's why it is recommended to only charge the phone when it is at 10-20% and try to charge it to full.
crohit911 said:
It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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what exactly impacts the battery ? how a 1500mAh charger doesnt harm it and a 2100 does while its a 3000mah?
NiM72NiK said:
the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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no it won't
it will just charge your phone slightly faster,
if there's more than 2000 input then the phone will put a limit on it. so it should be fine
The discharge rate.
I might be wrong though cause I didn't read properly.
But voltage does have some impact.
choihan06 said:
no it won't
it will just charge your phone slightly faster,
if there's more than 2000 input then the phone will put a limit on it. so it should be fine
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why 2000? what wrong with 2500mAh??!! I think 3000should be the limitation because more than that is going to harm it! isnt it right?
NiM72NiK said:
why 2000? what wrong with 2500mAh??!! I think 3000should be the limitation because more than that is going to harm it! isnt it right?
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Well the phone is designed that way, i mean sony engineers should be smarter than us so i assume its a best option.
When i use 2.0A galaxy note3 charger on my z1 it takes about 1500-1700mah but no more than 1700.
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I use a 12000mAh portable charger from New Trent and my phone battery is in perfect shape. It does not harm it in any way. I don't understand where the confusion is coming from.
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-iCarrier-Smartphones-Micro-USB/dp/B003ZBZ64Q
mAh is a capacity measure , the bigger the capacity the more times you can charge the phone on a single charge (and usually also the bigger and more expensive the battery)
It's the Amperes which are Voltage/ sec given to your phone that you should worry about. Pretty much all portable chargers are suited to mobile phones and should not cause any harm.
I thought you were talking about travel adapter charger..
Yes current provided and voltage matters.
Silly me I was confused between mah and Amperes..
Thanks man!
But I think he's refering to amperes. Cause the one provided with z1 is 1.5 amp. And the portable battery is 5 ah. So he bought a 2.1 ampere charger.
NiM72NiK said:
the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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There seem to be quite alot of confusion here. I am sure you mean the output of the charger, but if you mean the capacity of a portable charger, then it doesn't matter if it is 1000mAh or 1000,000mAh. But if you mean the output of the charger, then we don't really have a clear answer as this was asked few times in the forum, but I will try to explain the conclusion we came to.
our phone is supposed to support quick charge 2.0 which means in theory, we can use chargers with ~4.0 A (if I remembered correctly). why sony used 1.5 A is not clear, but I don't think using 2.0 A would have any effect except slightly faster charging time. I have been using my SGS4 charger (with 2.0 A output) since I got my Z1 (since release date). Last time I looked for even more powerful chargers ~3 months ago, I found that chargers with 4.0 A output has not been released yet and will be released early 2014. When they are released, i will contact sony and see if I can use it with my Z1 as in theory this should mean half charging time. I hope this helps
it won't harm the battery
The higher mAh rating might not have a direct affect on your phone... But what you said that the battery charges faster is a cause of concern. Do check the output of the charger you got with the battery. If the current rating is higher than your stock charger then maybe you're phone circuits may have problems.
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shem2409 said:
Battery life has nothing to to with the capacity of the portable battery? What are you talking about.
Every charging reduces the battery life. That's why it is recommended to only charge the phone when it is at 10-20% and try to charge it to full.
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Its the other way around, avoid going down to ~10% and try to keep it above 50%
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The higher charger will increase HEAT and heating is the battery most bigger enemy .. Thats it.
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I'm sure he meant the charge rate of the charger.
Maybe it won't affect at all since the charge current rate is set by the battery chip, not by the charger. What the charger label says is the max output current, not necessarily the actual rate.
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Higher current may hurt abit, higher voltage hurts more
Been using the blackberry rapid charger but not overcharging the phone and its been fine, been using it for years. FYI, chargers are measured in volts and amps. The bb one is 2amp and 5 volts.
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You cannot judge or decide anything, except you know what electronic part used by that phone which have specific normal rating and resist maximum ampere. So, everything you do with your charger is Gambling!! But, I suggest not too much the different
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