So I've made the jump to tmobile and I have a brand new unactivated Note 3 but the att version and the box says it's on kit Kat. From what I understand if it's been unactivated and I try to unlock it it will only be region unlocked. I don't really understand this if some of you guys can chime in and explain to me in further detail what this means I would be thankful.
ahfu25 said:
So I've made the jump to tmobile and I have a brand new unactivated Note 3 but the att version and the box says it's on kit Kat. From what I understand if it's been unactivated and I try to unlock it it will only be region unlocked. I don't really understand this if some of you guys can chime in and explain to me in further detail what this means I would be thankful.
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When you buy a phone it is locked in more than 1 way.
First of all it is region locked. This means that the phone must be used for 5 to 15 minutes on the carrier it is intended for, in it's intended location. For example. An At&t phone must be used in the United states, on At&t's network for 5 to 15 minutes before it can be used outside the U.S. or on a different carrier like T-mobile.
Second of all the phone is SIM locked. This means that the phone can only be used with it's branded carriers SIM card installed. SIM unlock codes can be obtained from the phones branded carrier, or a 3rd party source. In order for an At&t phone to work on T-mobile you must unlock the SIM.
If you have an At&t Note 3 with firmware ending in MI9, there's an app called region lockaway that can unlock both the SIM and region locks. This exploit was fixed before kit kat was released. So if your build ends with NC2, MLG, NB4, or MJ5 you have to purchase a SIM unlock code, or call the branded carrier.
Phones also has a bootloader which loads the devices software. The At&t Note 3 has a locked bootloader. This prevents the installation of a custom recovery. Custom recoveries give us access to cool AOSP roms and one click system restores. Exploits like safestrap let us tweak stock software for a custom feel. But it's just not the same.
Finally all devices have a root directory. Some phones can allow root access. This allows us to perform exploits like safestrap, and tweak system files.
I know you didn't ask for all that info, but I included it for some other curious unknowing readers. I hope I answered your question.
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Is it possible to unlock Samsung SM-G900A - from AT&T and use different sim card in another county
I have the same doubt. Any way?
waranty92 said:
Is it possible to unlock Samsung SM-G900A - from AT&T and use different sim card in another country
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I'm not sure, but maybe you can ask the AT&T customer care to give you the unlock code as well as the method to do it.
That's what I tried for my S2 and S3. I had them under contract. And if you buy it without contract, shouldn't it be unlocked already? Just curious!
I'll ask about the unlock process to AT&T tomorrow and let you know if the same trick works or not
Unless I'm not mistaken, you are not talking about rooting the device already, are you!
If you ever want to modify your phone, I recommend returning during your 14 day trial period. Otherwise, you will be stuck with a worthless piece of junk. Although nobody has verified this yet, the SM-G900T (tmobile) appears to support the same bands but I need someone to test with a ATT SIM
I want to root the phone because it may be blacklisted by at&t
I unlocked mine whit Swift Unlock.
The T-Mobile version (SM-G900T) supports all of the frequencies of AT&T, plus WCDMA 1700 MHz. Additionally, it's the only variant with an unlocked bootloader. I know people using it on AT&T.
Product F(RED) said:
The T-Mobile version (SM-G900T) supports all of the frequencies of AT&T, plus WCDMA 1700 MHz. Additionally, it's the only variant with an unlocked bootloader. I know people using it on AT&T.
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Is unlocked bootloader avaliable on this forum and is it flashable on stock version,
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Is unlocked bootloader avaliable on this forum and is it flashable on stock version,
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That question makes no sense. By "bootloader unlocked", I mean that the T-Mobile version is the only variant that lets you flash anything without stopping you (e.g. custom ROM, custom recovery, custom kernel). Depending on what you flash, you will trip Knox though.
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That question makes no sense. By "bootloader unlocked", I mean that the T-Mobile version is the only variant that lets you flash anything without stopping you (e.g. custom ROM, custom recovery, custom kernel). Depending on what you flash, you will trip Knox though.
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I'm not getting answer of main question, can I flash custom rom or root Samsung SM-G900A and use it with any sim card even if it is blacklisted by AT&T
waranty92 said:
I'm not getting answer of main question, can I flash custom rom or root Samsung SM-G900A and use it with any sim card even if it is blacklisted by AT&T
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Blacklisting means the phone is lost, stolen or was not paid for completely. That means you can't use it on AT&T, and on any carriers that enforce a blacklist (most do in the US). It has nothing to do with custom ROMs or root.
Product F(RED) said:
Blacklisting means the phone is lost, stolen or was not paid for completely. That means you can't use it on AT&T, and on any carriers that enforce a blacklist (most do in the US). It has nothing to do with custom ROMs or root.
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I don't want to use it in US, it will be used in the different country, and my question is simple, can I unlock it to use in different country with different operator witch don't care if the phone is blacklisted by AT&T, i need the phone just accept new sim and work with it
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I don't want to use it in US, it will be used in the different country, and my question is simple, can I unlock it to use in different country with different operator witch don't care if the phone is blacklisted by AT&T, i need the phone just accept new sim and work with it
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I think what he is trying to say is, in the case I have a blacklisted non-unlocked SM G900A, is there a way possible to use this phone with another SIM under a non US based carrier in a different country. Also what he is wondering is maybe this is possible through rooting? if not is there any way that this can be done if yes please help... Thank you for all the feedback!
I don't think there's a way to do it through root. AT&T won't help you because it's blacklisted. You would need an eBay unlock service or something along those lines.
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I think MobileTechVideos.com is the final solution.
They are an affordable service with great solutions to mostly everything.
Press the thanks button if this helped you :good:
no......and there is not a service that can "repair" the IMEI either......I "repair" IMEI quite a bit with a JTAG and the software will not work until there is a root available. You can however sell it in another country and it won't matter that it is blacklisted in the US. Unlocking the phone or rooting it won't do you any good in the US anyway since all companies have a joined blacklist now. If it's bad on one it's bad on all.
I unlocked my phone with this http://www.getunlocked.com/ page and it worked, Thanks for atantion
Yes it works
enigma99a said:
If you ever want to modify your phone, I recommend returning during your 14 day trial period. Otherwise, you will be stuck with a worthless piece of junk. Although nobody has verified this yet, the SM-G900T (tmobile) appears to support the same bands but I need someone to test with a ATT SIM
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I can verify the Att sim does in fact work with the "SM-G900T". I recently sim unlocked via "theunlockingcompany_._com" Worked perfect.
I purchased my phone outright And an AT&T agent gave me my unlock code right away with no questions asked. Was very simple. ..I might have gotten lucky though. Just saying
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Hello.i have a brand new SM G900A FROM AT&T.but i want to use another carriers sim.please help.i need this phone for work..so i could really use some good advise..thanks
So I purchased a Moto X off Swappa from a guy that works for Anandtech.com. They were selling their demo model so I snagged it. Apparently it was used in Canada despite the fact that it is an AT&T model. When I received the phone and popped a SIM into it, it is prompting me for a SIM unlock PIN. He claims that nothing was changed software wise, but it seems to me that they would have had to change something in order to get it to work with a Canadian GSM SIM card. I took it to an AT&T store and he called tech support but the pins they gave him wouldn't work. Anyone have any thoughts on how to make this thing work or am i out of luck? I was thinking of unlocking and rooting with a stock ROM, but not sure if that would resolve the issue. I would appreciate any input.
thanks!
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So I purchased a Moto X off Swappa from a guy that works for Anandtech.com. They were selling their demo model so I snagged it. Apparently it was used in Canada despite the fact that it is an AT&T model. When I received the phone and popped a SIM into it, it is prompting me for a SIM unlock PIN. He claims that nothing was changed software wise, but it seems to me that they would have had to change something in order to get it to work with a Canadian GSM SIM card. I took it to an AT&T store and he called tech support but the pins they gave him wouldn't work. Anyone have any thoughts on how to make this thing work or am i out of luck? I was thinking of unlocking and rooting with a stock ROM, but not sure if that would resolve the issue. I would appreciate any input.
thanks!
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Does it have the att logo on it?
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bradspace said:
So I purchased a Moto X off Swappa from a guy that works for Anandtech.com. They were selling their demo model so I snagged it. Apparently it was used in Canada despite the fact that it is an AT&T model. When I received the phone and popped a SIM into it, it is prompting me for a SIM unlock PIN. He claims that nothing was changed software wise, but it seems to me that they would have had to change something in order to get it to work with a Canadian GSM SIM card. I took it to an AT&T store and he called tech support but the pins they gave him wouldn't work. Anyone have any thoughts on how to make this thing work or am i out of luck? I was thinking of unlocking and rooting with a stock ROM, but not sure if that would resolve the issue. I would appreciate any input.
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Rogers Wireless in Canada uses the XT1058, Att uses an XT1058, but they are not the same rom/radio code. And the Rogers can get the boot loader unlock code from Moto directly.
Could it be you have a Rogers XT1058? Does it have the ATT logo on its back? Did ATT have the IMEI in its database?
Something else to consider... you mention wanting to unlock and root... Unless that Chinese Website/Middleman comes backup, you can't unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058, and the current root option for 4.4.2 doesn't survive power off/on since there is no way to disable write protection (without unlocking the bootloader).
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Does it have the att logo on it?
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Yes, it has the AT&T logo on it.
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Rogers Wireless in Canada uses the XT1058, Att uses an XT1058, but they are not the same rom/radio code. And the Rogers can get the boot loader unlock code from Moto directly.
Could it be you have a Rogers XT1058? Does it have the ATT logo on its back? Did ATT have the IMEI in its database?
Something else to consider... you mention wanting to unlock and root... Unless that Chinese Website/Middleman comes backup, you can't unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058, and the current root option for 4.4.2 doesn't survive power off/on since there is no way to disable write protection (without unlocking the bootloader).
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It is from Canada, but it has the AT&T logo. So at this point, there is no way to flash an AT&T stock ROM onto the phone? In contacting AT&T again today, the only thing that I could discern was the system version that was different than what she said it should be. I have 165.44.1.ghost_att.ATT.en.US, she said that it should be 161.44.1.ghost_att.ATT.en.US
Just curious, can you boot into fastboot/bootloader mode. Does it say "Device is Locked Status Code 0" or "Device is Unlocked Status Code 3"?
The latest ATT ROM leaked on http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 is 165.44.1.ghost, and as far as I know, that is the current ATT ROM. You can try and reflash the ATT SBF, but I doubt it will help.
ATT XT1058 is Sim locked out of the box, but an ATT SIM should work in it sim locked or unlocked.
I don't have an answer as to why if you have an XT1058 from ATT, and put a real ATT SIM in it, you would get prompted for the SIM Unlock pin, unless you have a PUK on the SIM itself? Does this SIM work in other ATT devices without prompting for unlock pin?
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Just curious, can you boot into fastboot/bootloader mode. Does it say "Device is Locked Status Code 0" or "Device is Unlocked Status Code 3"?
The latest ATT ROM leaked on http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 is 165.44.1.ghost, and as far as I know, that is the current ATT ROM. You can try and reflash the ATT SBF, but I doubt it will help.
ATT XT1058 is Sim locked out of the box, but an ATT SIM should work in it sim locked or unlocked.
I don't have an answer as to why if you have an XT1058 from ATT, and put a real ATT SIM in it, you would get prompted for the SIM Unlock pin, unless you have a PUK on the SIM itself? Does this SIM work in other ATT devices without prompting for unlock pin?
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Device is locked - status code 0. I am able to use the SIM in my G2 with no issues. The person I bought it from said that it was never used on a Canadian provider.
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Device is locked - status code 0. I am able to use the SIM in my G2 with no issues. The person I bought it from said that it was never used on a Canadian provider.
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Sorry, I'm not sure what to tell you.
The bootloader has never been unlocked, so there is no way non-ATT ROM or radio could have been installed.
Do you have another ATT Sim to try, or a T-Mobile SIM maybe?
I remember someone else posting something like this a while ago, but I do not know if there was a resolution or not.
I don't know what to tell you to try next. Sorry.
I'm going to be switching over from T Mobile possibly next week. I'm curious if I need to flash an AT&T ROM or return it to a stock T Mobile ROM.
This is the 1st time that I'll be taking a phone from 1carrier to another. I even asked the rep from the AT&T store what I should do and of course he was clueless to what I was asking for. He just told me to get my phone unlocked from T Mobile and had no clue about rooting.
Any particular steps that I should take aside from unlock code to make sure my phone will work with AT&T?
Once your phone is sim unlocked it will work on at&t. Root access isn't needed. Once you insert the new sim apn data should install automatically. It's good to double check though.
Since you have a "tmobile" device this at&t forum won't be much help. The at&t note 3 has a locked bootloader and the tmobile one doesn't. That means the tmobile one has more capability. I bet in the tmobile threads you'll find others in the same situation as you. They can guide you to improve your at&t experience with a tmobile device.
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Once your phone is sim unlocked it will work on at&t. Root access isn't needed. Once you insert the new sim apn data should install automatically. It's good to double check though.
Since you have a "tmobile" device this at&t forum won't be much help. The at&t note 3 has a locked bootloader and the tmobile one doesn't. That means the tmobile one has more capability. I bet in the tmobile threads you'll find others in the same situation as you. They can guide you to improve your at&t experience with a tmobile device.
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Thanks a lot.
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So there's this S5, locked to ATT and running Android 5.0.
1. As far as I know, this phone is impossible to root. If there is a solution, please let me know
2. The phone is locked to ATT. Looks like their policy is to unlock only if the phone remains on their network. We live in a different country. Our carrier will not unlock phones sold by another carrier. Suggestions?
I bought a Note 8 in swappa that was supposed to be factory unlocked (SM-950U1) but is actually an AT&T phone (950U). I verified this directly with Samsung. I am on Sprint and using their IMEI check site, this phone is compatible. Are there any differences between the factory unlocked and carrier unlocked? Is there any benefit to the factory unlocked? Basically what I want to know is whether I should keep the phone or whether the differences are enough that I should send it back to the seller.
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The carrier unlocked are capable of accepting sim cards from other carriers, just that, they have all the stuff related to the carrier like the boot animation, Volte calls, hotspot, mesaging service, and carrier bloatware, etc, the factory unlocked ones have the samsung usual bloat, in your case, you could flash the firmware specific to the carrier you will use, to be able to use the services offered by your carrier otherwise some things could be missing
Flashing the Sprint version would require root, yes? I love Samsung Pay so wouldn't be willing to root.
How do factory unlocked phones get updated? Would those still be pushed out by whatever carrier you are on?
The more I read, the more I think sending back the AT&T one is the right move. Then it comes down to Sprint vs unbranded. I don't have any immediate plans to leave Sprint so maybe the Sprint version is the way to go?
You can flash any firmare, providing it is intended for your device, in your case any firmware for USA devices(snapdragon) will work, if you flash official firmwares there will be no problem with knox, just do it with care
I'm surprised an AT&T phone will work on Sprint's network. AT&T is GSM and Sprint is CDMA.