HEADS UP: SideSync/BT/Wi-Fi bug! - Galaxy Tab S General

OK, I don't know if it's "universal" or if there is something unique to my setup at play here but here it is: once you pair your Tab S on SideSync with a compatible device (a Note 3 in my case) via Wi-Fi AND VIA Bluetooth, after disconnecting the smartphone, BUT ONLY WHILE KEEPING THE BT ON on the tablet (and OFF on the smartphone), Wi-Fi speeds on the tablet crawl to almost a halt (and I noticed access points other than the one I am connected seem to ciclically appear/show less signal strenght/disappear...) The tablet is useless when it does like so.
Before I discovered where the issue was, I also performed a factory reset with no success.
Only solution I found (short of uninstalling SideSync, which I like a lot and do use often on my Note 3, Windows PC and now my Tab S) was simply turning the BT off. I was keeping the BT on my tab always on because if/when I turn it on on my Note 3 too they automatically establish call notification mirroring and when I launch SideSync on either device it automatically launches on the other too (normally you have to launch them on both devices)
Since I had no other reason to keep it always on on the tab, this is not too big a deal for me, especially since it is a bug in an app so eventually it will be fixed... The big deal was only the time wasted troubleshooting the issue and the time and effort spent re-setting my tablet up after the factory reset (many hours since I have a "rich" and complex setup and each time do go meticulously through each and every tab's and apps' settings... )
I was just about to send it back to Amazon as a faulty unit and get a new one...
BTW, when functioning normally the Wi-Fi is actually very good: fast and good reception.
Hope it helps anyone who may be banging his head on the wall for the same issue... LOL
P.S. This Tab is AWESOME, only things it needs for me are an S-Pen and bigger internal storage options... (and here in Europe it seems we can't even get the 32GB option GRRRRRR!)

xdapao3 said:
OK, I don't know if it's "universal" or if there is something unique to my setup at play here but here it is: once you pair your Tab S on SideSync with a compatible device (a Note 3 in my case) via Wi-Fi AND VIA Bluetooth, after disconnecting the smartphone,
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The most recent update to SideSync added a new feature - notifications via BT. This isn't the same as directly connecting devices via SideSync through Wi-Fi or Wi-Fi direct. I found this out when I got a BT pairing request from my N3 after disconnecting it from SideSync over Wi-Fi. Once paired over BT, notifications from either device appear on the other. Also once paired the two devices connect automatically. I'm not experiencing any side effects in terms of Wi-Fi performance when the two devices are connected via BT.

BarryH_GEG said:
The most recent update to SideSync added a new feature - notifications via BT. This isn't the same as directly connecting devices via SideSync through Wi-Fi or Wi-Fi direct. I found this out when I got a BT pairing request from my N3 after disconnecting it from SideSync over Wi-Fi. Once paired over BT, notifications from either device appear on the other.
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Yes, SideSync was updated with this feature practically the day I got my Tab S (a few days ago).
I was using SideSync with my Note 3 and my previous tablet, a Note Pro, with no issue at all, but that was pre-update...
Also once paired the two devices connect automatically.
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Yes, extremely convenient. And that's why I was keeping my BT always on, on my Tab S...
I'm not experiencing any side effects in terms of Wi-Fi performance when the two devices are connected via BT.
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Nope, like I wrote, it's not when they are connected that I experience the problem, it's AFTER disconnecting the Note 3 (by turning the BT off, AFTER having done at least a session of "normal" SideSync via Wi-Fi Direct) WHILE keeping the BT on on the Tab S.

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AFTER disconnecting the Note 3 (by turning the BT off, AFTER having done at least a session of "normal" SideSync via Wi-Fi Direct) WHILE keeping the BT on on the Tab S.
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I have a Gear so my N3 always has BT enabled. I use a BT keyboard, mouse, and pendant on my tablet so its BT is always on too. I'm guessing the "new" feature uses BT LE because I haven't noticed any battery drain on either of my devices. I think notifications via BT is kind of half-baked. It's not documented anywhere and if you unpair the devices both continually nag you to accept their mutual pairing codes. Let's see if anyone else chimes in with issues. I'd bet there will be another update to SideSync soon; probably with an explanation of the feature and the ability to disable it. SideSync's made by RSupport, one of Samsung's Korean cronies like Hancom and Polaris. Cool stuff but not at all perfect and certainly not well documented. When my N3 started nagging me with a pairing request from my tablet which was stowed in its bag I thought I was being hacked until I figured out SideSync was playing HAL.

BarryH_GEG said:
I have a Gear so my N3 always has BT enabled. I use a BT keyboard, mouse, and pendant on my tablet so its BT is always on too. I'm guessing the "new" feature uses BT LE because I haven't noticed any battery drain on either of my devices. I think notifications via BT is kind of half-baked. It's not documented anywhere and if you unpair the devices both continually nag you to accept their mutual pairing codes. Let's see if anyone else chimes in with issues. I'd bet there will be another update to SideSync soon; probably with an explanation of the feature and the ability to disable it. SideSync's made by RSupport, one of Samsung's Korean cronies like Hancom and Polaris. Cool stuff but not at all perfect and certainly not well documented. When my N3 started nagging me with a pairing request from my tablet which was stowed in its bag I thought I was being hacked until I figured out SideSync was playing HAL.
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I agree, it's the first appearance of this feature and it's going to be refined over time and the fact that this new feature is not mentioned/explained anywhere (nor does it have any dedicated setting whatsoever) sure makes it feel like a rushed first (almost beta) release... Still, it's a very welcome new feature!
Anyway, I am simply going to avoid BT pairing until the next SideSync update and that's it... I too have BT keyboard and mouse for occasional use with my tablet and I also have a Logitech BT 2.1 speaker set which I sometimes use with the tablet plus of course the occasional use for quick sharing of small files between my tablet and smartphone/PC but nothing forces me to keep BT always ON on the tablet (on the Note 3 I use it way more often, especially because I use it for handsfree calling in the car).

Finally, I know what is my my problem with my Tab S. I watch a lot of movies with my Tab doing chores and I am using bluetooth headphones to keep listening to the dialogues when I don't look directly at the screen. My phone (Note II) sit just beside it. They were both paired using SideSync but I was never able to make it properly work, however, once in a while the Tab and my Note tried to exchange information. I think it was also happenening when I was watching movied and receving a notification on my tab and my phone which both of them tried to send to the other via bluetooth and at the same time was disabling my bluetooth functionality on the Tab until I rebootted it. I removed SideSync from my phone now and i'll see if this was the problem.

BT/WiFi issue
I am having the same issue, but it seems that it has nothing to do with SideSync. The WiFi behaves erratically (as described by the initial post) whenever I have the bluetooth turned on. Listening to spotify with my BT headphones is a nightmare.
Anyway......

scarvan said:
I am having the same issue, but it seems that it has nothing to do with SideSync. The WiFi behaves erratically (as described by the initial post) whenever I have the bluetooth turned on. Listening to spotify with my BT headphones is a nightmare.
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Bluetooth and Wi-Fi share the same 2.4GHz frequency. A sketchy Wi-Fi connection can impact BT performance. As an example, when I'm using public Wi-Fi my BT keyboard sometimes goes nuts with repeating keys. It's usually because of a crappy connection, too many people on the router, or too many people with wireless devices sitting near me. I never have the problem at home, work, or on 3G. If it's happening at your house you might want to check how crowded the Wi-Fi channel you're using is.

I agree with you. However, BT is not being affected, wifi is. I was an Ipad user and recently changed to galaxy tab s 10.5 and used the same wifi connection (both at home and at work) and BT headphones without any problems whatsoever using the Ipad. It is just frustrating...
I am no expert and I am here to learn and give my input, trying to help and be helped. Sorry....

scarvan said:
I am having the same issue, but it seems that it has nothing to do with SideSync. The WiFi behaves erratically (as described by the initial post) whenever I have the bluetooth turned on. Listening to spotify with my BT headphones is a nightmare.
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It might still be related somehow.. I mean it may be the same bug which manifests itself under different conditions.
Anyway, I just tried and I have no issue at all with neither BT nor Wi-Fi while playing some music on my BT speaker set and surfing the web at the same time (also tried doing speed tests, everything works perfectly fine at full normal speed).
Tried with both my router (Sitecom 2.4GHZ) and my brother's (Netgear 2.4/5 GHz) and my speakers (Logitech BT adapter) and my brother's BT headset (cheap no-name headset which he uses for gaming I think)
P.S. it's important to note that it is most probably a simple bug (and that's why I have been calling it that) and not an HW issue because until I disconnect SideSync and turn the BT off on the Note 3 while keeping it on on the Tab S, I have no issue with running *both* BT and Wi-Fi! So NOT a matter of interference and the like...

scarvan said:
However, BT is not being affected, wifi is.
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Most people here have Wi-Fi S'. You'd think systemic problems with something as highly used as Wi-Fi (with our without using BT simultaneously) would be a 15 page thread on the home page of the forum if a lot of people were experiencing it. Samsung and Apple most likely use different brands/models of Wi-Fi radios in their devices. Because one device worked and the other doesn't could mean there's an individual issue connecting to whatever you're connecting to. That, or your particular S may have a h/w problem.

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Most people here have Wi-Fi S'. You'd think systemic problems with something as highly used as Wi-Fi (with our without using BT simultaneously) would be a 15 page thread on the home page of the forum if a lot of people were experiencing it. Samsung and Apple most likely use different brands/models of Wi-Fi radios in their devices. Because one device worked and the other doesn't could mean there's an individual issue connecting to whatever you're connecting to. That, or your particular S may have a h/w problem.
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I agree. It's either the same bug I am talking about which is being "brought out" by scarvan's specific HW combination or it's an issue related to his specific device (both HW or SW).
It may be useful to try it on different routers/BT speakers/headsets combinations.

Same issue as reported by OP. I never noticed because I keep BT on both Tab and S5. If I turn BT off on the S5, not only is wifi performance on tab Tab affected, but also the performance of nearby PC on the same network.

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I agree. It's either the same bug I am talking about which is being "brought out" by scarvan's specific HW combination or it's an issue related to his specific device (both HW or SW).
It may be useful to try it on different routers/BT speakers/headsets combinations.
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I will try disabling Sidesync on the tablet and see how it works. If its ok, I'll enable it again and just disconnect BT on my S4 to see how it goes. I'll get to you guys again on this tomorrow. Thanks for all your input!

You can also force stop it so you don't have to disable or uninstall it. That way you can still use it by just opening it.
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The current version was released after OP's post. You might want to make sure you're updated.

I'am using 5ghz highband wireless. No problems with Bluetooth streaming simultanously.

i had this same issue as the op , after using sidesync for the first time about 10 min later it will not connect to my wifi network until i disabled bt as i was using a bt mouse at the time, even had samsung remotely go into the tab to see if they can solve the issue , which they did nothing but cleared data from bt. finally said f it and did a factory wipe, running flawless again now, kind of scared to use sidesync again right now , it took over 2 hours to d/l all of my stuff back to the tab

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i had this same issue as the op , after using sidesync for the first time about 10 min later it will not connect to my wifi network until i disabled bt as i was using a bt mouse at the time, even had samsung remotely go into the tab to see if they can solve the issue , which they did nothing but cleared data from bt. finally said f it and did a factory wipe, running flawless again now, kind of scared to use sidesync again right now , it took over 2 hours to d/l all of my stuff back to the tab
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Ok... So after some tests I can confirm that Bluetooth and Wi-Fi work fine together. Sidesync is the issue.... Presumably remote notifications.
Let's wait for an update to the app f4om Samsung.
Thanks everyone!

Cool
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Is it possible to use Sidesync between Tab S and PC/Mac ?
Or only tab with smartphone?
I tried on my iMac and it doesn't find (wifi ou USB)

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[Q] Issues with Moto X and two Bluetooth devices

I searched this forum and didn’t see any posts related to this issue directly, please direct me to any existing threads if I may have missed them. Sorry for the length of post, but I wanted to be as detailed as possible to fully explain the issue.
I am having some issues with the Bluetooth connections that I use in my car. I had this setup working previously on my Droid Razr Maxx with no issues, and was really hoping it would carry over to my Moto X.
I use Tasker in my car and have several profiles setup based on my Bluetooth connection state. When I enter my car, I connect to my General Motors Bluetooth for hands free calling. This connection works without issue. I also have a small USB powered Bluetooth audio receiver that converts the Bluetooth stream to a 3.5mm cable and goes into the radio deck for audio. It was a pretty cheap dongle that I got on eBay. It doesn’t have a brand name on it, but it comes up in my phone as “dmzmusic”. I’ve never had any major issues with it before, other than on occasion it fails to turn on when the car starts, but shutting the car off and turning it back on again works fine.
Last week I had my phone in a basically stock 4.4 state. Not rooted, nothing changed, etc. When I would get in the car, General Motors Bluetooth connected just fine. I did not happen to take any phone calls last week, so I’m not sure about how well that was working. I’ll get to this in a minute. My other connection for dmzmusic seemed to connect and then very quickly disconnect. This was evidenced by my Tasker profile launching Pandora, which it is supposed to do when it connects to dmzmusic. However, Pandora immediately exited again, and when I went to the Bluetooth settings, only General Motors was connected. If I tapped on dmzmusic in the list of paired devices, it connected and worked fine.
Over the weekend I rooted my Moto X with SlapMyMoto, which was quite a long process, but in the end, I was rooted and all was well. This morning, I got in my car and re-paired both devices mentioned above. When the Tasker profile fired for dmzmusic, I watched it launch Pandora, and then close it within a few seconds (there is an exit task to kill Pandora). It did this cycle three times, and then apparently stopped trying. As with before, I tapped on the connection and it worked fine. It launched Pandora, music played my whole way to work, and Pandora was killed when I arrived at work.
Now, back to the General Motors issue. Today when I was driving to work in the lovely Minnesota weather, my boss called to see where I was. My music paused, but my radio deck did not show an incoming call on the screen. I pressed the hands-free answer button, but it didn’t work. I picked up the phone and swiped right to answer, but it didn’t come through on Bluetooth. So I started talking on the handset, and after about 30 seconds, it connected to the radio and hands-free worked. When I was done with the call Pandora and music resumed, as it should.
So my question is, has anyone else had any issues with hands free Bluetooth, and/or any issues when using a hands-free device AND a media only device? In the Bluetooth settings, my General Motors connection only has the option for phone. The dmzmusic device has phone and media, but I have unchecked phone so it’s set to media only, if that makes any difference.
I know it’s a somewhat unique situation, but it’s really annoying that it doesn’t work. Tonight I am going to test having a few seconds delay on the Pandora task to see if that helps the repeat cycle that it did this morning.
Thanks!
fury683 said:
I searched this forum and didn’t see any posts related to this issue directly, please direct me to any existing threads if I may have missed them. Sorry for the length of post, but I wanted to be as detailed as possible to fully explain the issue.
I am having some issues with the Bluetooth connections that I use in my car. I had this setup working previously on my Droid Razr Maxx with no issues, and was really hoping it would carry over to my Moto X.
I use Tasker in my car and have several profiles setup based on my Bluetooth connection state. When I enter my car, I connect to my General Motors Bluetooth for hands free calling. This connection works without issue. I also have a small USB powered Bluetooth audio receiver that converts the Bluetooth stream to a 3.5mm cable and goes into the radio deck for audio. It was a pretty cheap dongle that I got on eBay. It doesn’t have a brand name on it, but it comes up in my phone as “dmzmusic”. I’ve never had any major issues with it before, other than on occasion it fails to turn on when the car starts, but shutting the car off and turning it back on again works fine.
Last week I had my phone in a basically stock 4.4 state. Not rooted, nothing changed, etc. When I would get in the car, General Motors Bluetooth connected just fine. I did not happen to take any phone calls last week, so I’m not sure about how well that was working. I’ll get to this in a minute. My other connection for dmzmusic seemed to connect and then very quickly disconnect. This was evidenced by my Tasker profile launching Pandora, which it is supposed to do when it connects to dmzmusic. However, Pandora immediately exited again, and when I went to the Bluetooth settings, only General Motors was connected. If I tapped on dmzmusic in the list of paired devices, it connected and worked fine.
Over the weekend I rooted my Moto X with SlapMyMoto, which was quite a long process, but in the end, I was rooted and all was well. This morning, I got in my car and re-paired both devices mentioned above. When the Tasker profile fired for dmzmusic, I watched it launch Pandora, and then close it within a few seconds (there is an exit task to kill Pandora). It did this cycle three times, and then apparently stopped trying. As with before, I tapped on the connection and it worked fine. It launched Pandora, music played my whole way to work, and Pandora was killed when I arrived at work.
Now, back to the General Motors issue. Today when I was driving to work in the lovely Minnesota weather, my boss called to see where I was. My music paused, but my radio deck did not show an incoming call on the screen. I pressed the hands-free answer button, but it didn’t work. I picked up the phone and swiped right to answer, but it didn’t come through on Bluetooth. So I started talking on the handset, and after about 30 seconds, it connected to the radio and hands-free worked. When I was done with the call Pandora and music resumed, as it should.
So my question is, has anyone else had any issues with hands free Bluetooth, and/or any issues when using a hands-free device AND a media only device? In the Bluetooth settings, my General Motors connection only has the option for phone. The dmzmusic device has phone and media, but I have unchecked phone so it’s set to media only, if that makes any difference.
I know it’s a somewhat unique situation, but it’s really annoying that it doesn’t work. Tonight I am going to test having a few seconds delay on the Pandora task to see if that helps the repeat cycle that it did this morning.
Thanks!
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Yup... My Dev GSM Moto X on 4.2.2 connected just fine to my Mazda for both Phone and A2DP everytime I entered or exited the car. With 4.4, I'd have to manually go into Bluetooth and have the phone connect to the car. Very annoying... Haven't had that happen since ICS days.. Might have to downgrade to 4.2.2 again just to make this go away.
Bluetooth working fine on 4.4 with my Hyundai Elantra. Phone and A2DP. Maybe try repairing?
totempole said:
Yup... My Dev GSM Moto X on 4.2.2 connected just fine to my Mazda for both Phone and A2DP everytime I entered or exited the car. With 4.4, I'd have to manually go into Bluetooth and have the phone connect to the car. Very annoying... Haven't had that happen since ICS days.. Might have to downgrade to 4.2.2 again just to make this go away.
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Thanks. I wasn't able to test it on 4.2.2 (it took right away OTA out of the box) with my Moto X, but it was working fine on my Droid Razr Maxx on 4.1.2 Jelly Bean before I got the Moto X.
I will have to try and see how it works with just the A2DP device without the handsfree. I rarely ever talk on the phone, and with the Touchless Controls I could call people and just pick up the phone. Or turn the phone portion back on for the A2DP device so the sound would come through my speakers but I'd still have to use the mic on my phone...
Still annoying. Thanks again for the reply.
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Bluetooth working fine on 4.4 with my Hyundai Elantra. Phone and A2DP. Maybe try repairing?
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Both pair automatically together when you enter the car?
I can get them to coexist, but I have to manually add the A2DP device. The car radio (General Motors) connects fine, but the A2DP cycles and then gives up, it seems.
I will try pairing them in a different order, and temporarily disabling or adding a wait clause to my Tasker profile to see if it works without that.
Thanks,
I have a Dension BT gateway for my car that provides BT audio and hands free. My phone connects automatically as long is bluetooth is turned on. I also connect to a BT OBD2 adapter sometimes, and I tried it today, and I kept playing Pandora via BT and also connected to the OBD2 adapter and had data going from both of them.
fury683 said:
Both pair automatically together when you enter the car?
I can get them to coexist, but I have to manually add the A2DP device. The car radio (General Motors) connects fine, but the A2DP cycles and then gives up, it seems.
I will try pairing them in a different order, and temporarily disabling or adding a wait clause to my Tasker profile to see if it works without that.
Thanks,
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Yeah, but they aren't a separate connection I don't think. Pretty sure the one connection handles both.
Seems to be an issue with the A2DP device specifically. I unpaired my car and the dmzmusic device and repaired them both, same result. I added just the dmzmusic, and got the same thing.
I changed my Tasker profile to just flash a toast message to show it connecting and disconnecting instead of firing Pandora to see if that mattered and it didn't. I did not try disabling the Tasker actions entirely to see if that worked.
I have a pair of Bluetooth headphones at home that I may try as well to see if it will connect to those. They fire the same task as the dmzmusic does to launch Pandora when they connect, and kill it when they disconnect.
Hoping this gets fixed, because it's VERY annoying.
Is it possible to submit this to Google/Moto as a bug if it is a larger problem with all A2DP devices?
But it's not a problem with all A2DP devices. Works fine with both my 2013 Hyundai Elantra and my Jaybird Freedom buds.
gtg465x said:
But it's not a problem with all A2DP devices. Works fine with both my 2013 Hyundai Elantra and my Jaybird Freedom buds.
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Thanks. I will try it with the Philips bluetooth headphones as well. The device in my car is pretty cheap. I don't know what version of Bluetooth it has, but it was only about $5. Anyone know of a similar device that can receive a Bluetooth audio signal and convert it to 3.5mm, and is powered by USB?
totempole said:
Yup... My Dev GSM Moto X on 4.2.2 connected just fine to my Mazda for both Phone and A2DP everytime I entered or exited the car. With 4.4, I'd have to manually go into Bluetooth and have the phone connect to the car. Very annoying... Haven't had that happen since ICS days.. Might have to downgrade to 4.2.2 again just to make this go away.
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Well I sort of solved this. There's an app in the Play Store called Bluetooth Auto Connect. This can connect to bluetooth devices with a set of conditions and states, and works as a plug-in to Tasker. I told it to connect to dmzmusic upon connection to any other bluetooth device (in this case, my General Motors hands free). Worked perfectly. Thought you'd like to try it out for your dual device setup.
However, I also have a new issue. It seems the reason my phone call wasn't on bluetooth at first was due to some sort of connection issue with the General Motors unit. While driving home tonight, every few minutes my car radio said Connected. And every time I turned the car screen on to thumb up a song on Pandora, it flashed Connected to a trusted device. Which implied to me that it was disconnecting periodically. No idea why it would do this. Didn't see any setting for it in bluetooth, and battery saver isn't on.
Anyone seen something like this? Will try tomorrow without the trusted device settings to see if that matters....
I noticed a similar auto-connect issue with mine, when I was attempting to troubleshoot the stuttering A2DP issues I'm having. If I have the HFP and A2DP profiles both enabled, they both connect right up when the ignition is on. If I have the HFP profile disabled, and only A2DP enabled, it doesn't connect right away and I usually have to manually force it. Very strange. This whole BT situation on this phone has been a pretty big disappointment for me, since I had everything working great with my GNex (running 4.3) and now it's like I've lost the heart of my car audio system.
I bought the Kinovo BT dongle for my wife for Christmas, so it will be interesting to see how that works with her Moto X. I'm pretty excited about trying out the AptX encoding for lossless audio, but I doubt she will even notice the difference.
Just to give you an update.. I downgraded to 4.2.2 and it connects to my Mazda automatically just fine.. Upgraded to 4.4 and the problem returns.. No apps.. Stock + root. Keep in mind that the problem lies only with the auto connect aspect of it.. Streaming/calls work fine but only after manually connecting.
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totempole said:
Just to give you an update.. I downgraded to 4.2.2 and it connects to my Mazda automatically just fine.. Upgraded to 4.4 and the problem returns.. No apps.. Stock + root. Keep in mind that the problem lies only with the auto connect aspect of it.. Streaming/calls work fine but only after manually connecting.
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Did you look at the auto connect app? It worked fine for me. My Bluetooth stopped working for a day or two because I froze a process without realizing what it was so BT wouldn't turn on at all. I think I have to remove and repair both of my devices to get the same setup I had on my Razr Maxx on 4.1.2,
The connecting/disconnection and/or 1-2 minute lag from my General Motors hands-free connection was annoying too. Have to see if that persists. I tried making the A2DP device the trusted one to see if that changes anything.
Really hoping this is something that Moto can/does fix, especially through a Play Store push like they've done with Active Display and the camera app.
not that this is much help for the OP, but my subaru auto connects voice (calls) automagically each time. it also auto-pairs/connects with my TuneLink audio (BT receiver for audio output over headphone/FM).
in the bluetooth settings, the settings button next to your device brings up the paired bt device profile. check to see if all of your devices are registered correctly. for example, my subaru says, "phone audio" and my tunelink says, "media audio".
to help complicate/annoy/support above, i also have a soundbar and BT house phone (cordless). both devices behave the same way my car/tunelink do.
640k said:
not that this is much help for the OP, but my subaru auto connects voice (calls) automagically each time. it also auto-pairs/connects with my TuneLink audio (BT receiver for audio output over headphone/FM).
in the bluetooth settings, the settings button next to your device brings up the paired bt device profile. check to see if all of your devices are registered correctly. for example, my subaru says, "phone audio" and my tunelink says, "media audio".
to help complicate/annoy/support above, i also have a soundbar and BT house phone (cordless). both devices behave the same way my car/tunelink do.
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Thanks. I do have the boxes ticked in the device settings for which stream to use. The General Motors connection only has Phone Audio (and it's checked) and the dmzmusic A2DP device lists Phone Audio and Media Audio, only Media is checked.
Did you have these devices setup on 4.2.2 before taking the upgrade to 4.3? Did you wipe in the process? Wondering if that's why @totempole had the issue if he is rooted, he probably wiped the device in the process SBFing back to 4.2.2. If you aren't rooted and didn't wipe between 4.2.2 and 4.4, that could explain why it works OK for you and not us..
fury683 said:
Thanks. I do have the boxes ticked in the device settings for which stream to use. The General Motors connection only has Phone Audio (and it's checked) and the dmzmusic A2DP device lists Phone Audio and Media Audio, only Media is checked.
Did you have these devices setup on 4.2.2 before taking the upgrade to 4.3? Did you wipe in the process? Wondering if that's why @totempole had the issue if he is rooted, he probably wiped the device in the process SBFing back to 4.2.2. If you aren't rooted and didn't wipe between 4.2.2 and 4.4, that could explain why it works OK for you and not us..
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not rooted/haven't wiped.
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not rooted/haven't wiped.
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Must be something with setting it up AFTER taking the update to 4.4 Kit Kat. Wonder if @totempole tried setting thiers up after going back to 4.2 and before taking the upgrade for the root process with SlapMyMoto?
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Must be something with setting it up AFTER taking the update to 4.4 Kit Kat. Wonder if @totempole tried setting thiers up after going back to 4.2 and before taking the upgrade for the root process with SlapMyMoto?
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could be completely device specific too. if your vehicle is BT v2.x or whatever. my tunelink specifically has problems with data/audio stream with the X that my X doesn't have problems with on other devices. could be software/hardware incompatibility issues.
FWIW, my vtech BT phone @ home would NEVER pair with other devices. i would always have to manually pair.
I just emailed Moto about this, because I'm having bugs too. I think that you're on to something, 640k. My Pioneer headunit (FH-P800BT) has BT 2.0, and while HSP connects fine, A2DP only works on the first pair, and after disconnecting once and reconnecting, it won't ever connect A2DP. I have to completely unpair the phone and re-pair it to get both A2DP and HSP working. My phone also gets stuck on "Connecting..." under BT whenever it's having issues connecting with A2DP. Here's the email I sent off to Moto"
I've noticed an issue with my new Moto X that I never had with my Samsung Galaxy Nexus. The phone itself performs way better than my older phone, but I've had a specific bluetooth problem. I have a Pioneer headunit that supports A2DP as well as HSP (music playback and headset functionality) and with my Galaxy Nexus, it worked great, I paired my phone up with the headunit, and both A2DP and HSP would pair at the same time, and work perfectly. With my Moto X, when I first pair the phone to the headunit, it pairs both profiles, but after I've disconnected (turned car off or turned bluetooth off) and come back, it only pairs HSP, and when I try to pair A2DP, my phone gets stuck on "Connecting..." under bluetooth to the headunit, and never will connect to A2DP unless I unpair and re-pair the entire phone. I've tried resetting my headunit and phone and still the same problem exists. Looks like other people are having issues with bluetooth too, as per this article on a popular Android forum > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562186 < I'd like you all to check this out. Seems it's just on 4.4, and wasn't present on 4.2.2 (I never checked myself on 4.2.2, as I immediately upgraded to 4.4 when I got my phone. This doesn't seem to be a hardware problem, but more of a software problem. Please check into this, and don't just read this and act like it's only a problem a handful of people are having. I'd like to have this fixed, and while it's not a deal-breaker for me to use the phone, it does make me a bit frustrated. Thanks in advance!
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[Q] Anyone have issues with Bluetooth A2DP?

I got my Note 4 yesterday and was trying to connect my car radio (Jvc Kw-V50BT). The phone connected, but when trying to connect the media part of the phone it just doesn't want to connect. I had a LG G2 prior to this phone and it worked fine. I checked JVC and it should work with Bluetooth 2.0 and up. This is baffling my mind right now. I might have to factory reset my phone and try it that way. Any help would be appreciated.
No problems here I use my Ford touch and everything is fine
HtcOnekid said:
No problems here I use my Ford touch and everything is fine
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well I might have to factory reset it then.
redstar kachina said:
well I might have to factory reset it then.
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If it still doesn't work...try another BT source.
Works better with my Ford Touch than any phone previously.
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Try reseting your radio... not sure how you do that with your model. Make sure you delete the old pairing.
bt 4.0, which most newer phones have, is very touchy about what it works properly with; I have a bad time trying to stay connected to my vivosmart garmin band, but pairing to my car and plantronics headset works 100% of the time.
my wife has a G3, and has the same issues; some things work 100% of the time, and some others only work occasionally
A2DP Issues
I just got my Note 4 yesterday, and am definitely experiencing some (admittedly minor) issues with A2DP in my Honda CR-V EXL 2012.
When playing music over Bluetooth, I experience the infamous "Galaxy S5 intermittent half-second skip". Also, I have noticed that when playing an album or playlist, if the screen on the phone is off the currently playing song information will not update.
For example:
I am listening to "Gimme More" by Britney Spears on the album Blackout.
"Gimme More" ends, and the next track "Piece of Me" comes on.
The car screen will continue to show "Gimme More' unless I use the forward or back buttons from my steering wheel or dashboard to manually change songs.
This causes the screen to update to "Piece of Me"... albeit with a brief delay.
Very odd...
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If it still doesn't work...try another BT source.
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I finally got it too work, but I had to get an app to help me out. I think it was called Bluetooth Manager or something. I forced it to accept the media and got it working. I was getting frustrated when even a factor reset didn't help.
Yes, I have the stuttering too on my Note 4. What can I do about it?
Note 4 note; note, Bluetooth.
redstar kachina said:
I got my Note 4 yesterday and was trying to connect my car radio (Jvc Kw-V50BT). The phone connected, but when trying to connect the media part of the phone it just doesn't want to connect. I had a LG G2 prior to this phone and it worked fine. I checked JVC and it should work with Bluetooth 2.0 and up. This is baffling my mind right now. I might have to factory reset my phone and try it that way. Any help would be appreciated.
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This may not help but.. Got my Note 4 four days ago; had the Note 3. 3 Had 0 problems with Bluetooth; 30 ft. through walls, drops rare, auto connected to my car while I was in the house. Note 4 range 15 feet,, constant drops and fails to connect. Hoping to get another 3 or 4 from T-mobile but that has not happened yet. I'm good carrying both. The 4 makes calls (although the speaker is a downgrade. The 3 connects to all my stuff. just like the old days at work. :fingers-crossed:
This is what I'm using. No issues.
It's not super new. Just a decent deck. But, the rule is the newer the better with flagship phones:
Not sure if this is related or not - I have an open thread about blue tooth streaming issues with my car...
What I have found so far -
My car (2012 Subaru STi) has two methods to pair a blue tooth device... entering the setup through the steering wheel is the only way to save a device for auto connect and play, entering the setup through the head unit lets you save and select a phone to pair, but you must select pair each time you get into the car. If you do option #2, I have the call audio and media boxes always unchecked. - see if your car has a different method for primary user/secondary user blue tooth set up
and secondly, my main issue was that while listening to spotify my radio head unit would say BT-Audio Paused out of nowhere, when in fact, the spotify track still shows playing and the song is progressing.
after lots of troubleshooting I think this may be an issue to spotify itself and not my phone (I am now testing Pandora/other streaming media to see if they do the same interment freeze/odd stuff)
I've also been having problems with Bluetooth devices connected to my Note 4. Previously, I had been using an iPhone 6 and I didn't have any issues with these devices. Now, I'm experiencing connection problems with my Jawbone UP24, my Plantronics headset, or my Jaybird stereo earbuds, and other devices. Once I reboot my Note 4, the BT connection is usually back. But, sometimes I have problems even after I've rebooted the Note 4. If I power cycle my BT peripheral, I'm usually OK as well.
So - my question is: could it be possible that some of my Bluetooth peripherals (like my Jawbone UP24) may be causing some type of interference? Or, do I have faulty hardware?
Older Bluetooth Devices always seem to be hit or miss on the newer Samsung devices that have been coming out. May be its age being the factor, lol. :silly:

Anyone having Bluetooth connection issues?

Trying to stream music from Google Play to my Big Jambox over Bluetooth. Sounds like a CD is skipping and then it eventually pauses the music.
tonyf7 said:
Trying to stream music from Google Play to my Big Jambox over Bluetooth. Sounds like a CD is skipping and then it eventually pauses the music.
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I've streamed it to my car and it was fine
tonyf7 said:
Trying to stream music from Google Play to my Big Jambox over Bluetooth. Sounds like a CD is skipping and then it eventually pauses the music.
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The only problem I have is the bluetooth in my car is always on. The phone wants to stay connected to it even when I'm in the house. Makes for a frustrating time when I'm doing work in the yard and trying to listen to something. I will plug in the headphones and after a while it will switch to the car's bluetooth.
Short of that the bluetooth connection has been stable and used a lot.
Can anyone help me..
how to connect my Samsung Galaxy tab2 with the nokia Bh-503 Bluetooth headset...
My tab won't connect the nokia Bluetooth device...
So how can i able to connect BH device in my samsung galaxy tab2 gt-p3100..??????????
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Blue tooth connection issue
Ok, let me be as descriptive as possible to my condition/experience.
I went for a walk today with Droid Turbo in tow, blue tooth connections to my Moto 360 (synced with Run Keeper) and Beats bluetooth earphones, playing a downloaded podcast, to avoid weak signal/streaming issues.
The sound coming thru the connected headphones was choppy, cutting in and out. Not listenable.
I thought the Moto active display were being tripped over and over again in my pocket, causing the choppiness of the bluetooth audio.
I turned off all the Moto active settings, as well as double twist to open camera app.
After turning off all those settings, it seems to play without a hitch. For the first couple of minutes. Then it would alternate between continuous playback and chopped playback, couple minute at a time, back and forth.
I am now done with that walk, sitting down typing this up and bluetooth thru Beats are working flawlessly.
It must be related to motion of the phone as I walk that causes the chopped playback, i dont have a clue.
Anyone have similar and create a setting profile that eliminates this?
Only issue with Bluetooth is with my mazda cx5, connects faster than my note 3, plays well except sometimes with play music the display won't advance to the next song but the song plays. Also sometimes the skip track won't work. Had zero issues with the note 3, hoping the next update fixes these problems. That's the problem with being an early adapter, but love the phone so far, miss having viper4android and pandora patcher, but can live without them, but keeping fingers crossed for root, although I seriously doubt this phone will get it.
Me too
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Trying to stream music from Google Play to my Big Jambox over Bluetooth. Sounds like a CD is skipping and then it eventually pauses the music.
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I had what sounds like the same problem. At first I thought I was getting notifications that would make the Bluetooth connection to my car cut out, but eventually realized that it was indeed garbled and sounded like a CD skipping quietly. I also had horrible battery life and touch screen issues even after a factory reset. Returned it and I'm using my GNex until my N6 shows up.
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I had what sounds like the same problem. At first I thought I was getting notifications that would make the Bluetooth connection to my car cut out, but eventually realized that it was indeed garbled and sounded like a CD skipping quietly. I also had horrible battery life and touch screen issues even after a factory reset. Returned it and I'm using my GNex until my N6 shows up.
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Fortunately for me the CD skipping stopped. Seems it worked itself out for me. [emoji1]
My turbo has a terrible time staying connected to my pebble, so much so that I'm attempting to set up llama to periodically check for connectivity, and if it finds none, reset Bluetooth and attempt a reconnect.
No audio problems, but I've never tried for more than a half hour or so.
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Ok, let me be as descriptive as possible to my condition/experience.
I went for a walk today with Droid Turbo in tow, blue tooth connections to my Moto 360 (synced with Run Keeper) and Beats bluetooth earphones, playing a downloaded podcast, to avoid weak signal/streaming issues.
The sound coming thru the connected headphones was choppy, cutting in and out. Not listenable.
I thought the Moto active display were being tripped over and over again in my pocket, causing the choppiness of the bluetooth audio.
I turned off all the Moto active settings, as well as double twist to open camera app.
After turning off all those settings, it seems to play without a hitch. For the first couple of minutes. Then it would alternate between continuous playback and chopped playback, couple minute at a time, back and forth.
I am now done with that walk, sitting down typing this up and bluetooth thru Beats are working flawlessly.
It must be related to motion of the phone as I walk that causes the chopped playback, i dont have a clue.
Anyone have similar and create a setting profile that eliminates this?
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I have this same stuttering problem when I use my LG TONE while everything works fine while connected to my car's radio.
jfassad said:
I have this same stuttering problem when I use my LG TONE while everything works fine while connected to my car's radio.
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I run regularly with the Turbo in my pocket, with BT Headphones (Motorola H11), BT heart rate monitor (Polar), with Runkeeper app tracking my run and music playing from Google Play music. Works very well. Once in a while, I do get a little skipping (1-2 minutes of skipping on 1 out of every 5 runs?). I do usually turn my wifi off when I'm going for a run. I run by a few saved hotspots, and I think that the skipping is related to wifi attempting to connect to a weak hotspot.
Just curious... The ones having issues with BT connections. Are you by chance connected to Wi-Fi? I've always had issues with Bluetooth on my devices when connected to 2.4ghz WiFi. No issues with 5ghz. They're too close to the same frequency. My note 2014 can't even keep a connection to my work 2.4ghz Wi-Fi and stream over a Bluetooth connection. Drops it every time.
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Just curious... The ones having issues with BT connections. Are you by chance connected to Wi-Fi? I've always had issues with Bluetooth on my devices when connected to 2.4ghz WiFi. No issues with 5ghz. They're too close to the same frequency. My note 2014 can't even keep a connection to my work 2.4ghz Wi-Fi and stream over a Bluetooth connection. Drops it every time.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the issue here. When I first got this phone, music over my bluetooth earbuds would skip like crazy while I was walking across campus. Eventually I noticed that if I set the wifi frequency band to 5GHz only or turned it off completely, then the stuttering would stop. Likely the stuttering was from my phone trying to connect to access points as I walked through campus. So now I just have tasker set up to disable the wifi whenever I'm connected to my earbuds. Not a proper solution but it works for now. Never had a problem like this with my Galaxy S3, though. Hopefully it can be fixed in some sort of software update.
I've had what sounds like skipping, but it only happens when the phone is either connecting or disconnecting from WiFi and I am streaming music, that wasn't uncommon with previous phones though so I wouldn't consider it a Turbo issue. I stream almost every day for a total of about 1-2 hours.
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Hey I just posted my experience here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57604084&postcount=4 but I'll just copy and paste it to this thread:
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Hmmm, I wonder if it's motion based. I'm sitting in my room listening to it now and it's a lot better. Unfortunately that doesn't really solve my problem, though.
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Rixanu - I think you're on to something... I'll give my "story" and hopefully someone a little more savvy than us can help figure it out.
I switched over from the good ole Galaxy Nexus about a month ago. No major complaints on the Turbo yet as we await Lollipop, with the exception of this Bluetooth issue. I have the Bluetooth paired in the car, and a set of headphones - music and everything worked perfectly on the GNex through the Bluetooth. Now, primarily, it's often choppy (mustic anyway) - for reference, when listening to music I listen via Google Play (all access or whatever they call it now). I figured the choppiness was related to the fact that the music was being streamed since most wasn't downloaded yet, but after very limited experimenting, I believe it must have to do with the physical Bluetooth radio. I had noticed in the past that when the music streams perfectly, a lot of times if I pick it up to check an email, text, etc., it becomes choppy, but thought that was strange since the RAM should be more than sufficient to multitask without choppiness. On my way home from a friend's, I played around and stuck my hand over various parts of the back of the phone, and would press the phone against my pant, etc., and could effectively interfere completely with the connection such that it would be only silent, and not even choppy. Yet, while the music wasn't playing, the track continued to playback on the device and when the music would pick up after I moved the phone, it would be 10 seconds or whatever later as if it had been playing straight through the whole time.
I haven't tested this theory too much yet, but I think combined with your issue, there's certainly something there. Unfortunately, I frequent these parts in order to find answers to these types of issues and don't have the solutions myself.
Do we have lemons, or is this issue prevalent?
I'm happy to provide more info to anyone that can help.
Thanks in advance!
Guys user: BIOYAM
Found a fix that worked for him and for me. You can try this:
Install SetCPU (I used a free app No-frills Cpu controll) with Governor: Interactive, CPU: Max 2265MHZ & Min 652
This totally stopped my bluetooth audio issues. Of course you need to be rooted to use these tools.
Hope this helps. :good:
Just an update for all y'all... My brother has the same phone and he's sort of oblivious to these types of issues, so I didn't trust his take on whether he was having the same problem. Anyway, I tested his phone on my BT devices and his phone had no issue whatsoever, even though mine did as I flipped back and forth between a pairing of the two.
Long story short, I called Verizon who connected me through Motorola and they're shipping me a new one, though they required me to put a $500 hold on my cc until I send this POS one back.
Happy Holidays
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I would be happy for suggestions. My bluetooth headphone keeps losing connection to the phone, and then reconnecting. Now, this only happens when I'm not listening, but since I tend to keep the headphones around my neck when I've paused playback I hear the reconnection beeping, it's annoying. When I resume listening the headphone may, or may not be connected.
I've made sure all the other bluetooth devices have bluetooth off, so I don't think the phones are trying to connect to something else. I read in another post that someone thought they might be having trouble because their car bluetooth was always on. I don't know if mine is, but I can tell you it's a pain to connect the phone to the car. Every time I do I need to go through several menus and, of course, this can only be done in Park, so I doubt the car is trying to take over the phone's bluetooth. :fingers-crossed:
Thanks
Since the MM upgrade, my phone has stopped connecting to my BT headphones automatically when I turn the headphones on. I have to manually connect them, by selecting them out of the list of paired devices. Is this just a change in how MM handles BT?
My issues with BT happen with both Lollipop & MM. My Turbo will randomly turn off BT and when I go to turn it back on I see the BT icon flash a couple of times quickly but it never turns back on. I found a remedy for the issues by using an app called Bluetooth Auto Connect but even with that I still have the issues now.
The phone also turns BT on by itself, even after I have manually disabled it
I'm sure the phone knows that it's going to be replaced with a Pixel and is messing with me as much as possible until then.
Any ideas?

[Q] Bluetooth Connection Issue (Redux)

Hey All,
I've done a quick and dirty search for this problem, but I haven't found anything that's exactly the same.
I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
I have done the unpair/re-pair thing a couple of times, but nothing changes.
I had an HTC phone before this, and it'd reconnect automagically to my cars BT server, so I suspect it's nothing to do with the car's BT radio. I really miss that...
Thanks for any suggestions anyone might have in how to remedy this. Fwiw, I'm willing to go through a diagnostic procedure if someone would clue me in to just how to do that.
cheers,
john
I've had issues with the bluetooth and pairing. When I was on 4.2.2 (I think..) it wouldn't connect automatically at all, and I used an app to connect for me. I have a Chevrolet Cobalt and it wouldn't connect to my built in bluetooth for calls or a small bluetooth dongle that I use for playing music through the AUX input on the stock radio.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect&hl=en
Once I was on 4.4.2 it seemed to work much better. I have no real issues now on 4.4.4. The only time I notice it not really working right is when I try to connect to the bluetooth speaker in our bathroom at home. If I turn the speaker on, it almost always connects to my girlfriends phone nearly instantly, even though I open the bluetooth menu and tap the paired device to manually initiate right when I turn on the speaker. It usually takes me a few tries to get mine to connect before hers, or I ask her to shut her bluetooth off for a moment while I connect. She uses the speaker every day because she leaves for work after me, so it only happens to me 1-2 times per month on the off chance that I want to listen to music or a baseball game in the shower, so it never really bothered me much.
I think the bluetooth radio in this phone could be better.. I never had any similar issues with my Droid X or Moto Razr Maxx so I'm not sure what the deal is...
Edit: forgot to mention I also have an XT1060, but not dev edition. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted, but using the official 4.4.4 VZW rom with Xposed.
I have never had any issues pairing Bluetooth - on either my car or moto 360 watch (even simultaneously).
However, I have noticed that the Bluetooth connects much quicker on custom ROMs when compared to stock.
I think tour connection issue may be a setting or rogue app related.
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Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
jrredho said:
Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
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You may need to delete the profile for the Bluetooth pairing in your car. Could be a conflict there.
Otherwise, try looking at your Bluetooth settings on the phone.
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I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
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Guys, thanks for staying with me on this. One thing I've definitely learned is that the bluetooth thing is something I'm pretty ignorant on. I can see that I'm going to have to study it a bit before too long. Gad, that HTC spoiled me rotten---at least in that way.
I haven't tried the phone with any other BT devices. This is mostly because I don't own but two, the car and a travel speaker, and I haven't had the speaker out of its case since I scored the phone six or eight weeks ago. Also, I did some housecleaning, so I have only a small fraction, maybe 20%, of the same apps on the MotoX that I had on the HTC. I have no apps on the MotoX that I didn't have on the latter.
As for some of the car-related suggestions, it's a 2015 Subaru Forester Premium 2.5i, which is really only level up from the base model of that line. I can't find that there is a bluetooth profile setting in the car that I can change; I think that it's too basic. The relevant user manual simply states the following:
Media format
Bluetooth audio devices cannot be
connected if they are not compatible with
the following Bluetooth® profiles.
. A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution
Profile)
. AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control
Profile)
I don't even know what either of those mean!
Anyway, what I did do is go to the phone settings, and uncheck the Media box that shows up once the car's BT server is detected. Then I try to connect with the Phone box checked. It'll still fail to connect several times, but (a) it doesn't take as long to fail to connect, (b) it doesn't take as many tries (it seems) to make the connection, and (c) when it fails, it fails totally, so I don't have to disconnect from 'Media-only Connected (No Phone)' connection. That makes it easier I suppose. Then once the connection is established, it's a simple matter to go back to settings, and check the Media box. That add-on connection happens pretty quickly, but the process is still a little overwrought, imo.
Of course, KidJoe, up until you mentioned a Headset Profile, I didn't know one existed. But when I try to play music on my phone using PowerAmp, well, the app doesn't hook up to the BT anyway. That's a key difference between the HTC and the MotoX. In PowerAmp, I have "Play over Bluetooth on Detection" selected. The headset isn't being detected at all. So maybe that goes some distance to explaining what I'm encountering.
Again thanks to both of guys for hanging in there with me! I'll keep trudging "onward through the fog," as it were...
cheers,
john
A2DP and AVRC are used for Bluetooth Stereo audio streaming (like playing Pandora on your phone via your car stereo). Not phone calls.
For phone calls, usually a Headset or Handsfree profiles are used, and sometimes BT Phone Book Access (so you can see your phone's contact names/numbers on the car's screen).
I've run into compatibility issues between some phones and some Headset/Handfree devices (mostly cars, but a few bluetooth headsets too). Often times when this happens, you're stuck. Each side will blame the other (i.e. Moto will blame the Subaru car stereo, and Subaru will blame the phone).
I have had issues re-connecting to my car (a 2011 Saab 9-4x with Bose/Nav), IF I had my Moto S11 Flex HD headset connected to my Moto X before I got in the car (even if the S11 was powered off/disconnected from the X before I started the car). Usually toggling the X's bluetooth off/on, and sometimes worst case rebooting the phone, has always fixed it.. Another time I had troubles connecting to my Saab's car kit was when my wife was using her phone to stream audio. The next time I got in the car, I had to manually connect my phone. The car always tries to connect to the the last phone used, so it was looking for my wifes and it took a while before it timed out. When it did time out, it didn't look for mine.
Since you have a 2015 Subaru, I would consider visiting your car dealer, ask them to help with pairing the phone properly, and making sure its working right. See what they have to say.
My bluetooth in my car stopped pairing the other day, and it turns out it was an app that updated and requested permissions related to bluetooth. I didn't notice them because it's an app I trust so I accepted the new permissions without really looking at it.
I used App Settings (Xposed module) to disable the permissions and my bluetooth works fine again.
I could still pair with things if I went to the bluetooth paired device list and manually tapped on the device I wanted to connect with, but it would not pair automatically (like when I got in my car). Once I disabled that permission, it started working again without issue.
May be worth a look through your installed apps to see if anything has access to bluetooth and may be interfering.
Hey All,
Thanks again for the continued help!
It's true, I didn't do any research on app interference before I posted this thread topic, but since a couple of you have brought it up, I decided to do a little research. I installed a permissions app, and took a look at the permissions that allows an app to automatically seek out, and pair with, Bluetooth servers. I have to admit, I got some surprises there. (Who would've thought that Beautiful Widgets needed that permission; it is now gone.)
Anyway, most of the remaining apps are either system/Moto-related, or ones I would really like to keep. I'll report back on what I learn. If there are other permissions that I need to reference besides the two pairing-connecting to Bluetooth ones please let me know...
cheers,
john

Nokia 8 Bluetooth unusable with Airpods. Anyone else?

Just to open with this - I really like this phone and have been enjoying using it. Aside from the fairly poor WiFi range and the flaky NFC it is otherwise a really nice phone. There's just one other issue I have which is extremely frustrating:
I can't use it with my Airpods. Or at least, I can connect it but at some point the sound will crackle and cut off. If I wait it will occasionally crackle and come back on again but will cut in and out in a way that would drive anyone mad. I've tried fiddling with Bluetooth settings in developer options but it doesn't seem to make any difference. I've even tried a factory reset.
The Airpods work absolutely perfectly with every other device - no issues with the iPhone (expectedly) nor the S8, G6 or even my laptop. I can't 100% rule out a fault with the Airpods but given these facts it seems highly unlikely.
I wondered if anyone else used Airpods and had experienced issues and found a solution.
Not too interested if you've had no issues with your device, nor what you think of Airpods - I just want to see if I can get to the bottom of this, or the Nokia will have to go back.
Many thanks
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Got a similar problem with my apt-x receiver.
Every few minutes the connection drops for a very short time.
The airpods don't support apt-x, but maybe it's the same problem.
My receiver shows a connection via apt-x, , but you can't find any apt-x support in the Nokia 8 specs.
But I had no problems with a friends portable speaker (non-apt-x).
I went back to cables
damian101 said:
Got a similar problem with my apt-x receiver.
Every few minutes the connection drops for a very short time.
The airpods don't support apt-x, but maybe it's the same problem.
My receiver shows a connection via apt-x, , but you can't find any apt-x support in the Nokia 8 specs.
But I had no problems with a friends portable speaker (non-apt-x).
I went back to cables
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I’m wondering if the Nokia 8 just has rubbish connectivity, generally. If the Bluetooth chip is part of the WiFi chip then this would figure as it has the worst WiFi connectivity I’ve seen in recent years
Are you running Nougat or Oreo? From what I've heard, a lot of the bluetooth issues have been fixed in Oreo.
leoni1980 said:
Just to open with this - I really like this phone and have been enjoying using it. Aside from the fairly poor WiFi range and the flaky NFC it is otherwise a really nice phone. There's just one other issue I have which is extremely frustrating:
I can't use it with my Airpods. Or at least, I can connect it but at some point the sound will crackle and cut off. If I wait it will occasionally crackle and come back on again but will cut in and out in a way that would drive anyone mad. I've tried fiddling with Bluetooth settings in developer options but it doesn't seem to make any difference. I've even tried a factory reset.
The Airpods work absolutely perfectly with every other device - no issues with the iPhone (expectedly) nor the S8, G6 or even my laptop. I can't 100% rule out a fault with the Airpods but given these facts it seems highly unlikely.
I wondered if anyone else used Airpods and had experienced issues and found a solution.
Not too interested if you've had no issues with your device, nor what you think of Airpods - I just want to see if I can get to the bottom of this, or the Nokia will have to go back.
Many thanks
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I wonder if yours is wonky, my Wi-Fi is excellent and i get get 75Mbit down 19Mbit up over 5Ghz through 2 brick walls, a floor up and at the opposite end of the house, i have not missed any payments using contactless via NFC and Bluetooth works fine via an Anker Bluetooth speaker and my JBL Bluetooth headphones.
Sorry for digging an old thread, but I still have the same problem even after a bunch of software updates.
My issue with the AirPods is that they do not work after they connect. I take them out of the case, they connect (as expected), but as soon as I start playing something the music/video pauses and the sound switches to speaker (if I press play again it plays out loud). To make them work I need to go to bluetooth settings, disconnect them and connect them again. Then they will work almost flawlessy (minor intrerruption from time to time).
I have no issue with other BT speakers. I also use the AirPods with an iPad and laptop and no issues there.
My Nokia 8 software is up to date. AirPods firmware the same (checked on the iPad).
I tried re-pairing after each software update. I tried changin BT settings (absolute volume - dev settings; contact sharing and HD Audio: AAC) but no improvements.
Any ideas what else can I try?
Search for Oreo and Bluetooth problems. It seams to be a general issue for this Android Version. I have problems connecting my Phone with the car, too.

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