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I have a dual band router, and i prefer to have as many devices on 5ghz, as it performs A LOT better in my apartment.
Of course i know that the chromecast is 2.4ghz only.
I have this issue: When i start something (netflix, youtube, deezer) from a device on the 5ghz network, it starts fine, but when the tablets go to idle mode, very often they stop seeing the chromecast and i lose control of the content playing (although it is still playing). This is not an issue if i run the tablets on 2.4ghz.
Any ideas?
May have set the tablet to to only use 2.4ghz when you are using the CC. Settings are under advance I think under WiFi.
I know with my phones in the house we have to limit it to 2.4 instead of 5ghz or we don't even see the CC since the our router has 2 separate ids for 2.4 & 5
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May have set the tablet to to only use 2.4ghz when you are using the CC. Settings are under advance I think under WiFi.
I know with my phones in the house we have to limit it to 2.4 instead of 5ghz or we don't even see the CC since the our router has 2 separate ids for 2.4 & 5
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That's weird, I have my 2.4 and 5Ghz networks with different SSIDs and I can see the Chromecast from either from both my tablet and Nexus phone regardless of which frequency they're on.
Really? Hmm with our moto maxx's and both RAZR M (all unlocked and rooted running newest firmware). When we have them in only 5ghz mode we can't see the CC
Are you sure the problem is actually related to using 5 GHz? I've seen the same problem on my 2.4 GHz devices - loss of connection to the Chromecast a few minutes after starting a stream, and difficulty of re-establishing it to control the stream. Maybe something else has changed, or you're just noticing the problem now.
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Are you sure the problem is actually related to using 5 GHz? I've seen the same problem on my 2.4 GHz devices - loss of connection to the Chromecast a few minutes after starting a stream, and difficulty of re-establishing it to control the stream. Maybe something else has changed, or you're just noticing the problem now.
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Mines started doing it the last few days as well on 2.4ghz only, only some apps do it, youtube been one.
it's been my experience that CC can only be seen across 5 & 2.4GHz when channel width settings match across bands.
having said that, i've resorted to isolating the 2.4 band for CC traffic only, keeping all other devices (except tablet doing the mirroring) on the 5GHz band. ever since making the change, CC streaming has been relatively flawless.
It's probably a WiFI signal reception issue in general.
Case-in-point, I also have a dual-band router with different SSIDs on 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz APs (you really should use different SSIDs except in special cases).
When my phone has strong medium to signal, I have no problem using Chromecast while connected to 5 GHz. Phone sleeps, wakes, still connected.
However, I just moved my workstation to another room where 5 GHz is weak. 2.4 GHz is still strong (lower frequencies travel better), though.
With my phone on 5 GHz, control of Chromecast was sluggish. Chromecast's playback was fine because it's still getting good 2.4 GHz signal.
My phone went to sleep, and when it woke it "forgot" it was controlling Chromecast - in fact, it could not longer see any Chromecasts.
I switched over to the 2.4 GHz network and Chromecast was visible once more. I rather use 5 GHz on my phone and leave the 2.4 GHz band uncluttered, so I might have to relocate/reorient/reconfigure my router now...
When I'm streaming and tab casting from a laptop, I connect it to 5 and everything runs smoother because the data stream is divided over two frequencies. However I find that the Nexus 5 screen casting feature is not as content to operate if I'm connected to 5 GHz.
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I just junked a netgear router with misbehaving wireless and nabbed a new one (Linksys WRT120N if you're curious) with N capability last night. I was hoping to get my SGT to connect at N speeds but unfortunately it keeps wanting to connect at G speed (54mbps). I've tried setting the router to N-only mode and the tablet still sees the AP, but it attempts to connect for a moment then goes back to scanning for APs. Yes, I've got great signal strength since I am sitting ~5 feet from the AP (the SGT icon shows full blue icon, my dbm is -34 for those of you that understand what it means).
Is the tablet's N capability disabled? I double checked the specs of my SCH-I800 on Verizon and Samsung's site and both say that the tablet has b/g/n wifi capability.
If you're nosy and want to know why in the world I'd even need N speeds, I have half a dozen computers in my house and some of them (thank you Microsoft) can't see the others for file transfers, so I copy the files over to my tablet from the source, then to the target. Not the best solution but I'd rather not toss up applications on all the computers and I haven't bothered buying equipment for a NAS device yet.
So... any revelations?
Samsung product info page: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SCH-I800BKAVZW-features
Verizon product info page: https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...tail&selectedPhoneId=5565&deviceCategoryId=12
Dunno, I've got mine running on N just fine... Some of the lower end linksys routers have issues with N. You might look into dd-wrt and see if your router is compatible..
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I've got a Linksys E3000 running Tomato, and my Tab connects. Notably, however, the Tab only supports some of the 5GHz channels and not others.
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I've got a Linksys E3000 running Tomato, and my Tab connects. Notably, however, the Tab only supports some of the 5GHz channels and not others.
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Pretty sure it only supports the 2.4ghz range of N. I could be wrong, but I doubt they would have included the 5ghz range of N wireless capabilities..
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Pretty sure it only supports the 2.4ghz range of N. I could be wrong, but I doubt they would have included the 5ghz range of N wireless capabilities..
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No, it supports 5Ghz range as well, just not all channels as I stated. My router is dual radio, and I have one SSID running at 2.4 and one SSID running at 5, and the Tab is connected to the 5 one.
It noticeably scans the 2.4 range before the 5 range, so first the 2.4 access points appear, and then the 5.
My personal experience was that I was able to achieve much much better download speeds by setting my router (WRT310N) to G mode only.
Before hand, when it was set to mixed I was getting speeds of like 1mbps download tops. Now I get 15+.
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I've got a Linksys E3000 running Tomato, and my Tab connects. Notably, however, the Tab only supports some of the 5GHz channels and not others.
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Would you mind mentioning 'some' of these channels so I don't have to manually go through all of them one by one to see if it'll work with my SGT?
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Would you mind mentioning 'some' of these channels so I don't have to manually go through all of them one by one to see if it'll work with my SGT?
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Sure, no prob, I've got mine working on channel 36.
You can also take a look at my other post on this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158878
Wondering if there is anything that can be done to get a Nook to connect at faster than 54 mbps G speeds? Does it really have a N wireless chip? I have searched and searched and cant find an answer to this.
According to the spec sheet, the wireless radio chip does support N. I'm not sure whether the software supports it
Radio: Chip ID Ti wl1271 (kernel reports wl1273) Chip supports bluetooth transmit/recieve and fm radio functions through the same antenna, but is not enabled in software drivers. Connectivity: 802.11b/g/n Security: WEP/WPA/WPA2/802.1x Mode: Infrastructure
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I get N connectivity via CM7 - been so long since I ran stock that I don't recall.
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Yamadog, do you currently have a n router that you are trying to connect too?
I've read before that the Nook Color wifi chip only supports 2.4 GHz range (which is used for both 11g and 11n) but not 5 GHz range (which is only for 11n). If you have a b/g/n/ router running in compatibility mode for all three types then it might possibly be doing 11n only at 5 GHz and 11b/g only at 2.4 GHz and so your Nook would never be able to see the 11n signal. Try putting your router in 11n-only mode and see what happens
I'm on CM7 and I've never seen a rate above 54mbps regardless of N availability.
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Yamadog, do you currently have a n router that you are trying to connect too?
I've read before that the Nook Color wifi chip only supports 2.4 GHz range (which is used for both 11g and 11n) but not 5 GHz range (which is only for 11n). If you have a b/g/n/ router running in compatibility mode for all three types then it might possibly be doing 11n only at 5 GHz and 11b/g only at 2.4 GHz and so your Nook would never be able to see the 11n signal. Try putting your router in 11n-only mode and see what happens
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I have no problem with the connection its just it connects at only 54 mbps which limits download speeds to around 11 mbps Max. My computers connect at 270 to300 mbps at download at my full 24 mbps speeds. I did have a g only router and it limited my computers to only 11 mbps like the nook. Aipparently the g rating of 54 mbps is just under ideal lab conditions and not really obtainable.
According to my home N router, the Nook Color connects at 54mbps but N is in use. For some reason that is the max rate it will use. I've seen this happen with other N devices when WMM is disabled on the client.
Whoa sorry never really answered you. My router is a cheapo 2.4 ghz n but it does allow 300 mbps connections. I have to run it in b,g,n mode because our wii is only g wifi.
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According to my home N router, the Nook Color connects at 54mbps but N is in use. For some reason that is the max rate it will use. I've seen this happen with other N devices when WMM is disabled on the client.
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I bet that's the case with mine too, but I haven't checked. It does pick up signals like its running n though.
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Yamadog, do you currently have a n router that you are trying to connect too?
I've read before that the Nook Color wifi chip only supports 2.4 GHz range (which is used for both 11g and 11n) but not 5 GHz range (which is only for 11n). If you have a b/g/n/ router running in compatibility mode for all three types then it might possibly be doing 11n only at 5 GHz and 11b/g only at 2.4 GHz and so your Nook would never be able to see the 11n signal. Try putting your router in 11n-only mode and see what happens
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802.11n operates on both 2.4GHz (20MHz bandwidth) and 5GHz (40MHz bandwidth).
Anyway, how do you guys check out the rate on the NC?
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802.11n operates on both 2.4GHz (20MHz bandwidth) and 5GHz (40MHz bandwidth).
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I know, but I've heard of routers that do compatibility mode by segregating g and n between the 2.4 and 5 GHz antennas
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802.11n operates on both 2.4GHz (20MHz bandwidth) and 5GHz (40MHz bandwidth).
Anyway, how do you guys check out the rate on the NC?
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Didnt realize all n routers did this. Checked mine and it shows my computer on 40 mhz and Nook on 20.
To check Nook connection link speed just click on the connected network and it lists all info for it.
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According to my home N router, the Nook Color connects at 54mbps but N is in use. For some reason that is the max rate it will use. I've seen this happen with other N devices when WMM is disabled on the client.
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I checked and did not have WMM enabled on my router. Enabled and although the connection speed still says 54 mbps, I recorded much higher, sometimes double, the download speed vs WMM turned off. Thanks! It might be a fluke but the speeds were not far off my desktop.
Actually it is a fluke. All along I have been using the android app for speed test to check my nook and it shows roughly half the speed vs the regular desktop speed page of speed test. Oh well at least I know I'm getting all the speed out of it.
fyi the Wifi chip is capable of up to 65mbps. I've seen this rate from other tablets with TI WLAN chips on my router. I haven't a clue why the Nook Color won't go that high. Not on any N router I've connected to.
I even took a look at the tiwlan.ini file but I don't see anything apparent in there. N appears to be enabled.
Until recently I was using Connectify to set up a home wifi hotspot for my phone (TMOUS HD7, running 7720 with the latest T-Mobile/HTC firmware) to use. Yesterday I installed a router instead, which has allowed me to play with more network settings.
If I set the router to 802.11n-only, my HD7 can see it but can't connect. If I set it to 802.11g-only, everything works fine. Has anyone actually confirmed that the HD7 can do "n"?
my home wifi network is "n" and both my hd7's connect to it fine.
I have forced the n-mode, no problems connecting
Yep, Wireless N works perfectly fine here
Which 802.11n are you talking about? 2.4Ghz works but 5Ghz won't. so it only does draft n not full 300mbps 5ghz 802.11n
You are comparing two different things, WLAN standard has nothing to do with frequency, HD7 follows IEEE802.11b/g/n standard operating on 2.4 GHz with 20/40MHz bandwidth, allowing maximum throughput of 150Mbps. It is capable of DSSS and OFDM modulation, and is also capable of operating in dualband mode, which allows it to connect to 2.4 GHz and 5GHz IEEE802.11a/b/g/n networks, this is however up to the OEM to enable this feature, this is not the case for HD7, or any WP7 device out there.
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You are comparing two different things, WLAN standard has nothing to do with frequency, HD7 follows IEEE802.11b/g/n standard operating on 2.4 GHz with 20/40MHz bandwidth, allowing maximum throughput of 150Mbps. It is capable of DSSS and OFDM modulation, and is also capable of operating in dualband mode, which allows it to connect to 2.4 GHz and 5GHz IEEE802.11a/b/g/n networks, this is however up to the OEM to enable this feature, this is not the case for HD7, or any WP7 device out there.
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Draft-n was 2.4ghz 150mbps was it not? where as full rate 802.11n is 300mbps and operates at 5ghz?!
Well, yes and no, 802.11n is capable of data rates up to 600 Mbit/s, those are achieved only with the maximum of four spatial streams using a 40 MHz-wide channel. However, when in 2.4 GHz enabling this option takes up to 82% of the unlicensed band, which in many areas may prove to be unfeasible. I don´t have device which is able to be set to achieve this limit (2.4GHz / 40MHz with 400ns Guard Interval), so I can´t test it. Do you have internet connection that requires such a high value?
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Well, yes and no, 802.11n is capable of data rates up to 600 Mbit/s, those are achieved only with the maximum of four spatial streams using a 40 MHz-wide channel. However, when in 2.4 GHz enabling this option takes up to 82% of the unlicensed band, which in many areas may prove to be unfeasible. I don´t have device which is able to be set to achieve this limit (2.4GHz / 40MHz with 400ns Guard Interval), so I can´t test it. Do you have internet connection that requires such a high value?
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lol personally now i don't my links is 17mbit but i like the 300mbps for video streaming and file transfers, if only i had an access point with a gigabit lan interface haha
After recently upgrading my family's phone's, we all now have 5 Ghz Wi-Fi capable devices, so I got a dual band AC 5 Ghz Asus router.
My broadband is rated at 20mbps down...ok, so testing with ookla speed test I'm getting the same transfer rates on either of the Wi-Fi bands (2.4 Ghz or 5Ghz)
I thought I read somewhere 5 Ghz is what you want, and should select that one....but now I'm understanding it has much less range but more bandwidth, but if I'm maxing out my 20m connection at 2.4 Ghz, what is the advantage of 5 Ghz?
(I hope this makes sense to someone who can reply)
5ghz is better if you are struggling with 2.4. Depends on how many mouths you are feeding. If you speed test near 20mb then don't worry about it cause ur not drawing a lot.
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2 things
1. Set them up as 2 separate networks with different names as passwords. Thus prevents devices from auto switching
2. As a general principal 5.0 ghz I'd better for streaming media and gaming, but does not go through walls well. 2.5 ghz is what gives your router is range. So anything that is streaming (eg. Xbox, chromecast, pc) you want on 5 ghz and close to your router, anything else you want on 2.5 ghz so it will work at longer range without losing signal.
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802.11n on 2.4GHz can connect at a minimum of 72Mbps and a maximum of 600Mbps. Unless you spent a boatload on a router and live in the middle of nowhere and operate no bluetooth devices you're unlikely to get 600Mbps on 2.4GHz as it relies on having four antennae and a 40MHz block available. 5.0GHz is much less congested so you'll always get the full 40MHz channel and the speed is limited by the number of antennae on your router.
The Note 4 supports 802.11ac, which skews it more heavily in favor of the 5GHz band. 802.11ac can use up to 160MHz channels which can achieve a data rate of 1300Mbps on the 5GHz band.
Now, all of that is completely theoretical. I can tell you that my T-Mobile Cellspot allowed me to hit ~80Mbps on 2.4 and ~130Mbps on 5 when I had a 130Mbps connection. I switched to Verizon and took 50Mbps due to cost, and the router they provide will only hit 50Mbps on the 5GHz band. On 2.4GHz I see closer to 25Mbps unfortunately.
Basically, I would set it up at 5GHz and walk to the extreme end of your house. See if you can still speedtest at your full line speed. If you can, stick to 5GHz. If you lose signal, drop to 2.4GHz.
Thanks for the answers guys.
Hi - I recently updated my OP10Pro 5G to the NE2215_11_C26 update, OOS13, US,, and my 5ghz wifi is now really slow - 40-50mbps down - unless I toggle wifi or airplane mode. Speed goes back up to normal, then goes down and stays there. Other devices in 802.11ac work just fine on the 5ghz band
Any idea what's going on?
Thanks
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Hi - I recently updated my OP10Pro 5G to the NE2215_11_C26 update, OOS13, US,, and my 5ghz wifi is now really slow - 40-50mbps down - unless I toggle wifi or airplane mode. Speed goes back up to normal, then goes down and stays there. Other devices in 802.11ac work just fine on the 5ghz band
Any idea what's going on?
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I had exactly the same problem and went through a "chat session" with OnePlus support about two weeks ago. I was asked to send my phone in for "repairs". The way their agent responded to my issue suggested that it is a common problem.
Edit: Sorry, my phone was running OOS 12 at the time I experienced the problem. I don't recall the build number and I don't have the phone now, so I can't check.
So, my phone has been "under repair" now for two weeks. No status update, no idea when it might be repaired or replaced. Meanwhile, I'm using my previous phone, a Moto One Ace 5G, and wondering why I bought the OnePlus at all.
ayoldguy1 said:
Hi - I recently updated my OP10Pro 5G to the NE2215_11_C26 update, OOS13, US,, and my 5ghz wifi is now really slow - 40-50mbps down - unless I toggle wifi or airplane mode. Speed goes back up to normal, then goes down and stays there. Other devices in 802.11ac work just fine on the 5ghz band
Any idea what's going on?
Thanks
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Did you check the negotiate speed?
Have a look with WiFi Monitor, ight shed some light.
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Did you check the negotiate speed?
Have a look with WiFi Monitor, ight shed some light.
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I think I figured out my problem. I have Verizon FiOS, and have a G1000 Quantum Gateway AC router and the matching extender. The extender had the same SSID for the 5ghz band as the main router .. so the phone would hang on to the router or extender no matter where I moved in the house, no matter whether I checked the "switch Wifi to stronger network" box. I created a 'sub' SSID, and now the phone will (usually) switch to the stronger network, and seems to work ok.
I didn't have this with my AC Wifi OnePlus 7 Pro, or with my AX laptop. But this did seem to fix the issue with the OP10. I wonder if the new FiOS wifi 6e router + new extender would work better with my 10 Pro if extender is broadcasting same SSID?
i lost wifi 6
ayoldguy1 said:
I think I figured out my problem. I have Verizon FiOS, and have a G1000 Quantum Gateway AC router and the matching extender. The extender had the same SSID for the 5ghz band as the main router .. so the phone would hang on to the router or extender no matter where I moved in the house, no matter whether I checked the "switch Wifi to stronger network" box. I created a 'sub' SSID, and now the phone will (usually) switch to the stronger network, and seems to work ok.
I didn't have this with my AC Wifi OnePlus 7 Pro, or with my AX laptop. But this did seem to fix the issue with the OP10. I wonder if the new FiOS wifi 6e router + new extender would work better with my 10 Pro if extender is broadcasting same SSID?
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As long as the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands will share the same SSID that's l;ikely the phone will pick the one with the "strongest signal".
If you want to make sure to always connect to the 5GHz one, using a different SSID is the only option. Doesn't really matter which AP/router/repeater/extender you use.
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i lost wifi 6
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Check under the couch, that's always there!
maddler said:
As long as the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands will share the same SSID that's l;ikely the phone will pick the one with the "strongest signal".
If you want to make sure to always connect to the 5GHz one, using a different SSID is the only option. Doesn't really matter which AP/router/repeater/extender you use.
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Yea.. the issue was that I had the 5ghz band on the SAME SSID being broadcast by both router and extender.. forgetting the 2.4ghz didn't do anything, nor did ensuring that the "switch to stronger Wifi network" toggle was on. My OP10Pro would connect to the router's 5ghz signal when entering the house, then stay on it when moving around the house without switching to the stronger 5ghz signal with same SSID emitted by the extender. By creating TWO 5ghz SSIDs, one for router and one for extender, the OP10Pro now - usually, it isn't perfect - switches between the router/extender 5ghz SSIDs depending on the signal strength, though Android13's cutoff for defining "weak signal" seems either arbitrary or very forgiving. I'm wondering if Verizon's new Wifi 6E router + extender will fix this issue and allow me to just clone the SSID on both devices.. i read somewhere that wifi 6 and 6e devices can do this natively.. not sure as I'm a novice at best at networking. Thanks.
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Yea.. the issue was that I had the 5ghz band on the SAME SSID being broadcast by both router and extender.. forgetting the 2.4ghz didn't do anything, nor did ensuring that the "switch to stronger Wifi network" toggle was on. My OP10Pro would connect to the router's 5ghz signal when entering the house, then stay on it when moving around the house without switching to the stronger 5ghz signal with same SSID emitted by the extender. By creating TWO 5ghz SSIDs, one for router and one for extender, the OP10Pro now - usually, it isn't perfect - switches between the router/extender 5ghz SSIDs depending on the signal strength, though Android13's cutoff for defining "weak signal" seems either arbitrary or very forgiving. I'm wondering if Verizon's new Wifi 6E router + extender will fix this issue and allow me to just clone the SSID on both devices.. i read somewhere that wifi 6 and 6e devices can do this natively.. not sure as I'm a novice at best at networking. Thanks.
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Other than the actual "sensibility", that's not a 10pro specific issue.
2.4 and 5 GHz bands will behave differently and the phone will "perceive" one or the other as the best choice based on various factors and the overall quality of the signal.
I had the very same issue on my laptop.
OnePlus support had my phone for 3 weeks to fix my 5G wifi speed problem. They report that they replaced the motherboard under warranty and the phone has been shipped back to me. I should have it in a couple days and will certainly test to confirm that 5G wifi speed is similar to other devices connected to my network.
I've defined separate SSIDs for 2.4g and 5g wifi in my gateway, so I can control which SSID I connect to. 2.4g was always consistent with other devices connected at 2.4g. The problem with my phone was related only to 5g.
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OnePlus support had my phone for 3 weeks to fix my 5G wifi speed problem. They report that they replaced the motherboard under warranty and the phone has been shipped back to me. I should have it in a couple days and will certainly test to confirm that 5G wifi speed is similar to other devices connected to my network.
I've defined separate SSIDs for 2.4g and 5g wifi in my gateway, so I can control which SSID I connect to. 2.4g was always consistent with other devices connected at 2.4g. The problem with my phone was related only to 5g.
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I received my "fixed" phone about a week ago now and I've been monitoring its wifi performance. Bottom line: 5G has been generally slow, much slower than my laptop or my Moto Ace 5G, but the speed is highly variable and quite fast sometimes. I just ran Speedtest on my laptop and OnePlus. Both were connected to the same 5G SSID. The laptop performance was 304 mbps down, 172 mbps up. The OnePlus performance was 48 mbps down, 205 mbps up.
I switched both the phone and the laptop to my 2.4G SSID. Laptop performance was 43 mbps down and 15 up. Phone performance was 116 mbps down and 88 mbps up.
After the 2.4G test, I switched the phone and the laptop back to the 5G SSID and immediately retested wifi speed. I observed performance of 339 mbps down and 373 mbps up on the phone. The laptop speed was 248 mbps down and 148 mbps up.
I know that my gateway broadcasts 5G on two different channels for the same SSID and I have no control over what channels it picks. Maybe the phone picks a congested channel sometimes and the slow observed speeds are due to that, whereas the laptop (and the Moto Ace) always seem to pick the less congested channel?
The other thing I read about was "randomized MAC address" versus "device MAC address" and someone, somewhere (I don't remember where) suggested that using device MAC address resulted in improved speed. I just made that switch for the 5G SSID. Speed is very good now, and I'll monitor it to see if it slows over time.
Sorry for the long message, but I'm thinking that the "fix" really did nothing to improve 5G wifi performance and there is something not quite right about the OnePlus's handling of 5G wifi.