Lines in display a normal thing? - Moto X Q&A

I got a moto X a week or so ago and have notice faint lines running mostly vertically but also horizontally in the display, mostly visible in solid grays and white. I did my research and know that this is an issue with the manufacturing process of this generation of AMOLED, but I'm wondering if this will be prevalent in every single moto x or if it's just that some are worse than others (worth an exchange?)? Coming from an HTC M8 on another carrier, the fact that these solid colors look so weird with the line running through them is very disappointing (otherwise I actually like the phone better). I'll post a picture when I get a chance.

Infinite Jest said:
I got a moto X a week or so ago and have notice faint lines running mostly vertically but also horizontally in the display, mostly visible in solid grays and white. I did my research and know that this is an issue with the manufacturing process of this generation of AMOLED, but I'm wondering if this will be prevalent in every single moto x or if it's just that some are worse than others (worth an exchange?)? Coming from an HTC M8 on another carrier, the fact that these solid colors look so weird with the line running through them is very disappointing (otherwise I actually like the phone better). I'll post a picture when I get a chance.
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That doesn't sound normal. I would replace the device asap.

I can't take a picture at the moment, but it does look similar to this:
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Infinite Jest said:
I can't take a picture at the moment, but it does look similar to this:
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I just filled my screen with white looking for these lines and couldn't find anything. Probably a defect. Contact Motorola.

Easiest ways see it is to download the LCD test app and display full screen gray. If you don't see it, then I definitely have an issue because it looks like a textured background rather than solid color.

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Easiest ways see it is to download the LCD test app and display full screen gray. If you don't see it, then I definitely have an issue because it looks like a textured background rather than solid color.
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Just downloaded this app and filled the screen with gray and looked at the screen at 0, 25, 50, 75, and 100% brightness and I see no lines.

dier325 said:
Just downloaded this app and filled the screen with gray and looked at the screen at 0, 25, 50, 75, and 100% brightness and I see no lines.
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Alright, thanks. Guess I'll be asking for a replacement.

Here are a few pics of my display for reference (hard to see on camera, but you can see cross-hatching in the lower area of the zoomed out pic and vertical lines in the close-up).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/flrs8imc35c1gps/2014-08-07 09.09.34.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ui6ucb33a27ynji/2014-08-07 09.07.06.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bnbkm672bmjt09g/2014-08-07 11.44.16.jpg

I found another forum describing it accurately as a linen-like appearance to the display rather than clear rendering. Very strange. In contact with Motorola now.

Same problem here..
EDIT: I have only oriental lines..

daede86 said:
Same problem here..
EDIT: I have only oriental lines..
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Full Definition of ORIENTAL
1
often capitalized : of, relating to, or situated in Asia
2
a : of superior grade, luster, or value
b : being corundum or sapphire but simulating another gem in color
3
often capitalized sometimes offensive : Asian
4
capitalized : of, relating to, or constituting the biogeographic region that includes Asia south and southeast of the Himalayas and the Malay Archipelago west of Wallace's line
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Did you mean "horizontal"?

samwathegreat said:
Did you mean "horizontal"?
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Of course yes.. It was a mistaken correction of my keyboard (I was trying flesky but I'm back to SwiftKey)
But yes I have horizontal lines

daede86 said:
But yes I have horizontal lines
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Absolutely normal.

devilsdouble said:
Absolutely normal.
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That's annoying. I may try to get one replacement to confirm this as I can't seem to find any display models locally anymore. I didn't like the display on my GS3 when I owned that and my latest foray back into amoled has been disappointing again.

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LCD display

I broke my digitizer and LCD display and bought the replacements via ebay. Both were "OEM" or whatever.
I replaced them, and the digitizer seems to have worse multitouch than before. I understand that it sucks, but my 2 points never used to get confused when they crossed axis, (or so I dont remember them getting confused).
But also, my LCD seems to have a pink hue to it. I definitely know mine did not have this before the break. I read over a lot of posts here and elsewhere about the pink hue problem. This doesn't appear to be a browser problem, but an actual hardware issue.
Should I return the LCD and get a replacement and hope that the other one I get will be regular, or are my odds slim to none. My previous one was NOT pink whatsoever. And this new one I noticed it right off the bat.
N1 screen isnt LCD... did you get an LCD or an AMOLED?
Well it's LCD with LED backlight. I believe the company I got it from off Ebay got the OEM product directly from Samsung.
It is the same as the one I had before. The part number on the display is the same as the one on my original cracked one, 60h00287-00p
stuff said:
Well it's LCD with LED backlight. I believe the company I got it from off Ebay got the OEM product directly from Samsung.
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So the colours are a lot more bland and the black isn't really black? You would most definitely know if you got an LCD, it would look ugly compared to what you had.
stuff said:
Well it's LCD with LED backlight. I believe the company I got it from off Ebay got the OEM product directly from Samsung.
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Are you SURE its an LCD? as andrew said, the nexus only has an AMOLED screen which is a completely different technology
if it is indeed an amoled, then you may have gotten an ATT nexus amoled which is known to have a purple/pink hue
Well what I'm saying is the p/n written on both displays are the same, both from samsung. Which means, yes, it is a AMOLED display.
I don't think it's a case of an "at&t" display being sent to me. My nexus one was for at&t, and I didn't have such pink issue. But this new display does.
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Well what I'm saying is the p/n written on both displays are the same, both from samsung. Which means, yes, it is a AMOLED display.
I don't think it's a case of an "at&t" display being sent to me. My nexus one was for at&t, and I didn't have such pink issue. But this new display does.
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well china sells a lot of fakes and they can match up stuff like that.....
and not all nexus display this kind of saturation. Do you have a picture so we can see the extent of the hue?
it doesn't show up much in pics.
but I think it's beginning to fade. I've been leaving the display up with a red color. and alternating through white and black.
Here's a pic I took. But again, it doesn't show up much in it.
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nah its noticeable on the keyboard and borders. use if for a while and see if the screen conditions itself. that is the same hue i believe that some att users were mentioning
It's worse to the eye than in the photo though.
I'll see if it fixes itself.
hopefully it just needs to be broken in
At 100% brightness, the pink tink is barely noticeable.
Actually, anything above 50% brightness and it seems fine. It's when it gets lower than that, it starts to look pink

Can render effects (such as might mode) damage our screens?

You know, the thing that only uses the red channels, pixels, whatever, to save battery. Will it have any negative effects on our display's?
Eclair~ said:
You know, the thing that only uses the red channels, pixels, whatever, to save battery. Will it have any negative effects on our display's?
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potentially, but nightmode's clock is jumping around the screen, thus preventing burn-in.
it may wear out the red pixels faster, but considering white uses all three, in the end it should be better considering that the blue oleds have a much shorter lifespan
flybyme said:
it may wear out the red pixels faster, but considering white uses all three, in the end it should be better considering that the blue oleds have a much shorter lifespan
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Don't amoled screens have a separate led for white? At least on nexus one's version.
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Don't amoled screens have a separate led for white? At least on nexus one's version.
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no it has a pentile matrix which means there are three colors, red blue and green.
the red and blue are put in alternating patterns (each pixel has one green subpixel and one red or blue pixel. the red or blue alternate)
rendering effect & eyes
Can it damage eyes? Only once in my life i had problems with colors. ( bubblebreaker game in WinMo) since then, i've been worried. i couldnt see colors anymore. couldnt see difference between yellow & green. Does rendering effect damage eyes if everything is seen on 1 color? if yes, which color is best option for not damaging eyes / display ??
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Can it damage eyes? Only once in my life i had problems with colors. ( bubblebreaker game in WinMo) since then, i've been worried. i couldnt see colors anymore. couldnt see difference between yellow & green. Does rendering effect damage eyes if everything is seen on 1 color? if yes, which color is best option for not damaging eyes / display ??
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If you experienced color blindness and attributed it to a game on a phone, you need to go to the doctor and get more than your eyes checked.
Leds have tens of thousands of hours of lifespan.
Don't worry about them "burning out". You'll be worrying about the implantable Nexus 27 by the time you've "used up" the leds on your phone.
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Leds have tens of thousands of hours of lifespan.
Don't worry about them "burning out". You'll be worrying about the implantable Nexus 27 by the time you've "used up" the leds on your phone.
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Uh, he was claiming he's afraid his eyes will be hurt by the colors on the screen.
OP, look at the following chart, if you can't read all of them, be worried.
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Uh, he was claiming he's afraid his eyes will be hurt by the colors on the screen.
OP, look at the following chart, if you can't read all of them, be worried.
http://englishrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/test.jpg
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Pretty sure I didn't quote that guy, I'm responding to the OP.
khaytsus said:
Uh, he was claiming he's afraid his eyes will be hurt by the colors on the screen.
OP, look at the following chart, if you can't read all of them, be worried.
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hmm i can't read 5 and i'm fairly certain i'm not colorblind, just can't seem to make out a visible pattern
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hmm i can't read 5 and i'm fairly certain i'm not colorblind, just can't seem to make out a visible pattern
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I can't see it either and have tested 100% color non-blind. Sometimes those tests have a squiggly line so seeing 1, 2, 3, 4 WTF? and 6 might be normal.
fubaya said:
I can't see it either and have tested 100% color non-blind. Sometimes those tests have a squiggly line so seeing 1, 2, 3, 4 WTF? and 6 might be normal.
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Ya I inverted the image and still can't find anything in it so I'm pretty sure the picture is just messed up. Maybe it's there to screw with us lol.
Jep4444 said:
Ya I inverted the image and still can't find anything in it so I'm pretty sure the picture is just messed up. Maybe it's there to screw with us lol.
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Uh, he was claiming he's afraid his eyes will be hurt by the colors on the screen.
OP, look at the following chart, if you can't read all of them, be worried.
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Oh gawd! I'm color blind...I can only see no.1...oh well

HP touchpad screen problem

Hi Guys!
Recently I purchased a 32 gb touchpad second hand dual boot CM9 and everything was working ok. Couple of days ago I noticed a four brighter spots-around 1mm- in the left top corner. I don't know if these spots have been there at the beginning as they are hardly visible apart from white background and other light colors. What I find strange is that these spots form a perfect rhombus, kind of the one Google put on the top dev apps. Could you please help me or at least give me some idea: what these bright spots might be? Thank you very much!
Can you provide a picture?
Have you tried any of the screen test app's? Could be dead pixels...
Sent from my cm_tenderloin using xda premium
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Can you provide a picture?
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That is the best I can do. Sorry if the quality is no good. Although the screen appear grey it is actually white and those four bright dots are clearly visible. Thank you. I also checked for dead pixels, but I don't think this is the case. Appreciate any help!
This is a re-post of mishoni's image that he/she sent me via PM.
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I'm not really that experienced with this kind of thing, but it doesn't look like a dead or stuck pixel to me. When you press firmly on the screen, does it change at all?
EDIT: This is a response from OCN after I posted your issue and picture:
"Look like a finger print
To ID screen issues make 5 pictures. They should be pure black, pure white, pure Red, pure Green and pure blue. Use MS paint ore something and its best if the pictures are the same size as the screen and in png format (Jpegs can have artifacts). Now look at thees pictures in full screen mode. If the "smudge" looks the same regardless of color then its probably something like a nick or scratch on the screen. If shape changes depending on color it means there are damaged or jammed liquid crystals in the screen. If the crystals are just jammed they can start to work again if you run flickering video (google dead pixel repair). If its indeed stuck pixles then you can also tap the area repeatedly as a slight movement in the screen panel can get crystals moving again."
You might want to give that a shot.
Hi Infinite Jest!
I installed Dead pixel repair and Pixel fixer. I run both apps and these spots are still visible, more or less on every screen background, apart from black. I don't think it is a scratch or nick on the screen, as the shape is strange and I cant feel anything when go over it with a finger. Also, the shape never change regardless of the screen background. I would appreciate if you could re-post to OCN-I don't know what that abbreviation stand for. Thank you again!
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Hi Infinite Jest!
I installed Dead pixel repair and Pixel fixer. I run both apps and these spots are still visible, more or less on every screen background, apart from black. I don't think it is a scratch or nick on the screen, as the shape is strange and I cant feel anything when go over it with a finger. Also, the shape never change regardless of the screen background. I would appreciate if you could re-post to OCN-I don't know what that abbreviation stand for. Thank you again!
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OCN=overclock.net
http://www.overclock.net/t/1291729/need-help-i-d-ing-screen-imperfection
His response:
"In that case it sounds to me like its a back light issue or to precise the backlight diffuser has a flaw in it. The diffuser is an clear plastic sheet that's painted white. It's job is to evenly reflect the light from the LED's though the LCD matrix. Unfortunately there is very little a layman can do about an damaged/flawed diffuser. I would just try to live with it but if it really bugging you then you might want to either RMA if (if you have warranty) or ring up HP support and ask about what it would potentially cos to fix it (and that's probably more then you will want to pay)."

screen comparison between 128gb and 64gb, not the same?

I recently got my 128gb, and returning the 64gb tomorrow, did some comparison on the screen, 128 on the left side.
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Light bleeding on the camera at low light condition
Brighter on the 128gb(letft). Stripes are from the camera(glare)
Different display modes?
Takes a few hundred hours for the pixels to settle. In a month they both would probably look similar.
556AR said:
Different display modes?
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This. Make sure your display mode is set to the same setting on both devices.
Light bleed does suck though. I had that on pretty much every HTC device I've owned.
556AR said:
Different display modes?
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Same "Basic" display modes (as posted on the pic).
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Same "Basic" display modes (as posted on the pic).
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While this may sound crazy! This is normal (that there not exactly the same). While you might be able to keep comparing different S6 until you find a pair that "matches", or have the same screen brightness any random pick won't be the same...there are many factors and as simple as different build dates etc...
On the S6 now and have had every galaxy since the first one and several HTC's before. I always by in pairs (keep the wife upgraded) and have noticed this every single time and not just with the Samsung's. Just how it is.
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Alright, thanks
This is 'normal'. I am on my 3rd S6 because the first two had that ugly pink tint to it. My 3rd phone not only has no pink tint, but also a really crisp white display. Compared to the previous phones, they were much more yellow.
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This is 'normal'. I am on my 3rd S6 because the first two had that ugly pink tint to it. My 3rd phone not only has no pink tint, but also a really crisp white display. Compared to the previous phones, they were much more yellow.
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I'm on my 3rd as well, no pink but it does have some green at the bottom sadly. It's not too noticeable, and I don't think I want to go through the hassle of getting a 4th replacement. There's a whole thread on it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/getting-replacement-s6-due-to-screen-t3074865
All the AMOLED displays for the S6 are going to have slightly different factory calibration on all profiles. So no two S6 displays are going to be the exact same.
There is no such thing as light bleed on AMOLED screens.
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There is no such thing as light bleed on AMOLED screens.
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Exactly. Basic knowledge
AMOLED does not have a backlight, it lights up each individual pixel which is why you can have inky blacks, because it simply turns off those pixels, unlike LED screens that use a black image with a light behind it giving off a grayish background.
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There is no such thing as light bleed on AMOLED screens.
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So how do you call that on the picture i posted? That only happens when i opened my camera app on total darkness. A little bit brighter on the botttom
jhun80 said:
So how do you call that on the picture i posted? That only happens when i opened my camera app on total darkness. A little bit brighter on the botttom
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light sensor is different in the camera (more sensitive or uneven)
I noticed a change in my screen after installing a tmobile update. Originally there was a completely black screen on the lockscreen, but after the update it almost appeared that there was a sort of gradient almost representing a light bleed.

DON'T update to CSA2 (if you love your bezel-less infinity display)

Hello everybody! Just updated my S9 to G960FXXU2CSA2 and the first thing I noticed left me speechless: this update added a thin (can't be more than some pixels) black frame around the UI. The result, as you can see, makes my S9 look like it has thicker bezels. I know it's a matter of some pixel but if you're used to Infinity Display this is the first thing you'll notice after the update. Don't know if this is intentional or not, but would be a serious issue if done on purposeā€¦
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Sorry for the quality of the pics but my mom's feature phone was the only camera I could get my hands on
Can't say I have noticed on my phone but your images are not loading
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Can't say I have noticed on my phone but your images are not loading
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Just noticed that, imgur links broken and the system doesn't let me edit them for secuirty reasons (less than 10 posts restriction)
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remove spaces and there you go
In the 3rd image i pointed a red section. When i hold my phone and look it from perspective i can clearly see a thin black space between the notification bar and the physical bezel, as if pixels were turned off, and this occurs across all the four sides of the display
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Just noticed that, imgur links broken and the system doesn't let me edit them for secuirty reasons (less than 10 posts restriction)
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In the 3rd image i pointed a red section. When i hold my phone and look it from perspective i can clearly see a thin black space between the notification bar and the physical bezel, as if pixels were turned off, and this occurs across all the four sides of the display
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Can't see it on my phone, and if it is there is it so tiny you would need a microscope to notice it
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Can't see it on my phone, and if it is there is it so tiny you would need a microscope to notice it
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I've been using Samsung infinity display since they introduced it on S8 so i'm quite used to the look and feel of it, and the first thing i noticed when my phone turned on after the update was this subtle change, like the bezels were thicker and the interface somehow more stretched. I'm downgrading right now to clear things up
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I've been using Samsung infinity display since they introduced it on S8 so i'm quite used to the look and feel of it, and the first thing i noticed when my phone turned on after the update was this subtle change, like the bezels were thicker and the interface somehow more stretched. I'm downgrading right now to clear things up
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Sure you have WQHD resolution set and not just FHD or lower?
Turning night mode off makes it easy to see there is no black line between UI and bezel
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Sure you have WQHD resolution set and not just FHD or lower?
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first thing I did after purchase was to set WQHD lol
Mine is the same. I have just noticed that)
Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
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Sure you have WQHD resolution set and not just FHD or lower?
Turning night mode off makes it easy to see there is no black line between UI and bezel
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I agree. You can't try to show thicker BLACK bezel, when you have night mode on!!
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I agree. You can't try to show thicker BLACK bezel, when you have night mode on!!
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Dude you can't even notice it from a photo, night mode on/off makes no difference at all. It's something you have to experience yourself, as the difference i'm talking about is no more than 1/2px. I'm used to this screen so I know what I perceive, and the first thing I noticed is the diminution of distortion around the edges which makes the screen look flatter and, by comparison, the bezels look thicker. It all plays around the distortion of the image given by the screen design, thus being something which can only be noticed if you see it for yourself (and not on a 2D photo) because it's too subtle.
Btw I'm just sharing my experience, I don't want to convince anyone nor I seek popularity. If you're happy with the device and don't notice anything then I'm happy for you. And just to let you know, i'm not the only one with this problem, there are other cases reported (not many to be honest, but this can be because of it being really subtle)
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Can someone give me an advice (or link) how to upgrade my rooted S9+ G965FXXS2BRK2 (Android 8.0.0) to G965FXXU2CSA2 without to reinstall all my apps and loss my data/settings?
I will give it a try and see if I have the same problem of this black bezel...
I think he is seeing the edge of the gorilla glass layer. If you look on edge, you can see that the display curves around the edge to below the actual phone bezel. The actual display is UNDER the gorilla glass layer.

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