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Guys rather than whining about Xiaomi not releasing the kernel source code Why not we force them to release it.
We can sign in for this petition and get the kernel source codes of the device we purchased
We totally need 500 supporters. Already there are 354 supporters
Please help and fight for your kernel source rather than begging them :highfive::fingers-crossed:
http://www.change.org/en-IN/petitio...pt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
Shahan_mik3 said:
Guys rather than whining about Xiaomi not releasing the kernel source code Why not we force them to release it.
We can sign in for this petition and get the kernel source codes of the device we purchased
We totally need 500 supporters. Already there are 354 supporters
Please help and fight for your kernel source rather than begging them :highfive::fingers-crossed:
http://www.change.org/en-IN/petitio...pt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
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Hugo Barra just stated that they will release the kernel source soon.
TomYaMee said:
Hugo Barra just stated that they will release the kernel source soon.
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Soon?? Dude its been a long time since mi3 was released...kernel sources should be released with the release of phone.
I thought at least after releasing mi4 they might release. But again he told it will be released. Most probably in fall that's a log time
True...
They sud release it right away...
either fix the existing bug on miui ( push notification ) or release kernel so that we can get on with cynogenmod ...
Shahan_mik3 said:
Soon?? Dude its been a long time since mi3 was released...kernel sources should be released with the release of phone.
I thought at least after releasing mi4 they might release. But again he told it will be released. Most probably in fall that's a log time
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I was just trying to say that petition is useless when Hugo Barra itself announced that they WILL release the kernel source.
TomYaMee said:
I was just trying to say that petition is useless when Hugo Barra itself announced that they WILL release the kernel source.
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TomYaMee said:
I was just trying to say that petition is useless when Hugo Barra itself announced that they WILL release the kernel source.
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Yes.... I understand .
But at least forcing might help release the kernel sooner then expected. As he never mentioned when
Just a hope and a try
You guys also need to understand that the petition won't do any good as no one can enforce it as the company is safe behind China's laws.
The only way you will make a difference is maybe a petition to stop buying their devices until they start following the gpl like everyone else.
zelendel said:
You guys also need to understand that the petition won't do any good as no one can enforce it as the company is safe behind China's laws.
The only way you will make a difference is maybe a petition to stop buying their devices until they start following the gpl like everyone else.
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So Tell Which OEM gives you Snapdragon 800,2GB RAM,Updates,13MP camera bla bla at$228.
zelendel said:
You guys also need to understand that the petition won't do any good as no one can enforce it as the company is safe behind China's laws.
The only way you will make a difference is maybe a petition to stop buying their devices until they start following the gpl like everyone else.
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@thejoker has got the main point.
The next best phone at 220$ is moto g which dropped 20$ after mi 3 release.
Except that the only choice is Asus zenfone
The cheapest SD 800 phone is nexus 5. Which still costs almost 500$
A used one costs 400$
This is the only device we can get and let's see what happens. It takes a few secs for sign up.
What's there to loose?
zelendel said:
You guys also need to understand that the petition won't do any good as no one can enforce it as the company is safe behind China's laws.
The only way you will make a difference is maybe a petition to stop buying their devices until they start following the gpl like everyone else.
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lol, if you want users to stop buying their device why there's a forum for Mi3 on XDA?
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Shahan_mik3 said:
@thejoker has got the main point.
The next best phone at 220$ is moto g which dropped 20$ after mi 3 release.
Except that the only choice is Asus zenfone
The cheapest SD 800 phone is nexus 5. Which still costs almost 500$
A used one costs 400$
This is the only device we can get and let's see what happens. It takes a few secs for sign up.
What's there to loose?
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That's a useless try you're doing, petition won't help you in any way, they'll release Mi3's source code when they'll feel to do so
Mi2/Mi2s got their code released few months after when their next flagship Mi3 got released all we can do is being patient.
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lol, if you want users to stop buying their device why there's a forum for Mi3 on XDA?
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That's a useless try you're doing, petition won't help you in any way, they'll release Mi3's source code when they'll feel to do so
Mi2/Mi2s got their code released few months after when their next flagship Mi3 got released all we can do is being patient.
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We made this forum to allow the users to get together and help change the company. Trust me if they don't change their ways when it comes to the gpl then the forum may NOT be staying.
It is not when they feel like it. There are laws to follow.
zelendel said:
We made this forum to allow the users to get together and help change the company. Trust me if they don't change their ways when it comes to the gpl then the forum may NOT be staying.
It is not when they feel like it. There are laws to follow.
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I agree..... There are tons of ppl who have been waiting for this and thanks to XDA....there are unofficial builds of Roms
Also due to this more ppl might buy it...
There was a fan meet in Bangalore with Hugo Barra......I missed it or else I would have requested him the reason and to release source code
zelendel said:
We made this forum to allow the users to get together and help change the company. Trust me if they don't change their ways when it comes to the gpl then the forum may NOT be staying.
It is not when they feel like it. There are laws to follow.
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I too agree with you buddy but as it's Chinese firm they are safe because of their law structure, can't force the Govt to change the law for a single firm.
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I agree..... There are tons of ppl who have been waiting for this and thanks to XDA....there are unofficial builds of Roms
Also due to this more ppl might buy it...
There was a fan meet in Bangalore with Hugo Barra......I missed it or else I would have requested him the reason and to release source code
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hehe me too wanted but I live in New Delhi so had no choice and as per the reason the source code for Mi3 will be released when Mi4 will get enough limelight, source code for Mi2/Mi2s were released few months after the launch of Mi3, we can just wait for them to do so
And Hugo himself said in an Interview that source code will be released by the end of this year
Having my fingers crossed on his words:angel:
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I too agree with you buddy but as it's Chinese firm they are safe because of their law structure, can't force the Govt to change the law for a single firm.
hehe me too wanted but I live in New Delhi so had no choice and as per the reason the source code for Mi3 will be released when Mi4 will get enough limelight, source code for Mi2/Mi2s were released few months after the launch of Mi3, we can just wait for them to do so
And Hugo himself said in an Interview that source code will be released by the end of this year
Having my fingers crossed on his words:angel:
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Yes....I spoke to xiaomi India's head and he assured that the kernel will be released in December
lol, you still made this thread when you knew that all the time?
lovegambler said:
I too agree with you buddy but as it's Chinese firm they are safe because of their law structure, can't force the Govt to change the law for a single firm.
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That's why we made this forum. So the users could get together and help change them. They will have to change a few things before they can think about releasing the device in many parts of the world. At first HTC and Samsung were doing the same thing. The users rallied and now they release it right away.
If they don't change then this forum will be a failure and be removed.
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lol, you still made this thread when you knew that all the time?
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Dude I made this thread on 13th and I spoke to the head....when I went to get a redmi 1s for beta test
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That's why we made this forum. So the users could get together and help change them. They will have to change a few things before they can think about releasing the device in many parts of the world. At first HTC and Samsung were doing the same thing. The users rallied and now they release it right away.
If they don't change then this forum will be a failure and be removed.
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Yes. Without XDA there were no devs ready to even make a unofficial ports.
Only thanks to it there are 3 Roms ....
.see we have nothing to loose to try
But after meeting them yesterday and after explanation came to know that Xiaomi looses most of its users to aosp and the only profits they get from cloud and other software services will be gone.
Once again xiaomi is not a hardware oriented company like Samsung etc
Shahan_mik3 said:
Yes. Without XDA there were no devs ready to even make a unofficial ports.
Only thanks to it there are 3 Roms ....
.see we have nothing to loose to try
But after meeting them yesterday and after explanation came to know that Xiaomi looses most of its users to aosp and the only profits they get from cloud and other software services will be gone.
Once again xiaomi is not a hardware oriented company like Samsung etc
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It doesn't matter if they are or not. They are required by law to release it upon device release.
No big surprise they lose most to aosp not a lot of trust for a closed sourced distro that one day had nothing and then the next had enough capital to start a company. Makes me wonder if other rumors are true.
Can you guys use the app to speed up the research for us that want root, even if you dont plan on rooting ? Thanks
The app has only 11 requests so far. I think there might be more Axons out there
request submitted.
Ditto, last week
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Ditto, last week
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Looks like its gonna take a while for us, IF it happens.
Anyone on 5.1.1, not just us. I'm in no hurry anyway.
Still scouring the web for a root method with no luck. Guessing it will come from China via the Axon Lux. Keep searching on Baidu
Only 18 requests submitted on king root. I don't think this will be our solution.
Any updates on a working root method?
I would like to put in a request for root on the Axon Pro.
I'd like root request for the standard (A1) Axon, please.
Anybody that wants to request please download KingRoot and install. After opening the app you will automatically request i believe we are at 163 request but we need a lot more
Ksehwail said:
Anybody that wants to request please download KingRoot and install. After opening the app you will automatically request i believe we are at 163 request but we need a lot more
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It shows as only 119 requests on mine! Do you have the A1P? It had about 88 when I put in a request
Yes I have also have the Axon Pro A1P... I guess I was mistaken it is less then I had thought.
Good grief is this one not selling to well worldwide? Also the 3 devices are dramatically different across the board with the A1, A2015 and A2016.
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Good grief is this one not selling to well worldwide? Also the 3 devices are dramatically different across the board with the A1, A2015 and A2016.
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That is sad.. .. The is actually not bad!!! If we had root and a custom roms this phone would be at the top of everyones list!!!
Sent from my A1P using Tapatalk
So I spoke with both ZTE and KingRoot. I got the usually bs from ZTE avoiding answering any questions I had. KingRoot on the other hand has been very helpful and it seems they are genuinely trying to find root for Axon pro A1P. They told me the next version they release should do the trick, but we will have to wait and see
Everyone needs to download KingRoot from playstore and let it cycle through your device at the end it will say that root was unsuccessful and it will ask you to submit a request to KingRoot team, the more submissions the more they will hear us. its one click and your voice will be heard! We need everyone to pitch in here!!! If anyone here knows any members of KingRoot please let them know we need their help this device is dying fast and that is really unfortunate with such potential. ZTE Sucks this will be the last phone I buy from them they are planing to release the ZTE Axon Pro 2 and all other variants the Elite 2 and the Lux 2, If anyone feels the same as me let it be known on ZTE's Twitter and Facebook Googe+ everywhere they are corresponding. They are dead to me anyways, I will never buy another ZTE device after how they show that they plan to operate. They don't care about what the customer wants and they wont even reason with us. I myself, personally told them I would give up my warranty if I could unlock my bootloader they would be liable for nothing they don't listen to what the customer wants and in business that is what will either make them or break them. Look at them manufacturers that are doing well from China - OnePlus and Oppo both will give the customer what they want and they are doing very well for themselves. I will stick with Open Source manufacturers who have proven to be open with me as a customer such as OnePlus, Oppo, Nexus, HTC, even LG, Sony and Samsung at least then we have the option to to use our devices how we want to and not how they limit us. ZTE has lost its way into the fold!!!
So we need to do all we can do to get the device we are stuck with out of this situation, if anyone can help in any way, please do what you can let ZTE know on every social media site they have!!! The voice of this community can be powerful it has worked before hopefully enough people can make it work once again.
To all you oneplus 3 reviewers out there will you bother?*to address the bugs and issues being faced by users of Oneplus 3 in your videos and articles???
Numerous Examples of issues can be found on xda forums and Oneplus official forums.
Examples
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/any-way-to-solve-this-issue.455513/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/push-notification-issues.451149/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/bug-list-oxygen-os-3-2-1.454505/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-3-microphone-issue.455221/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/the-oneplus-3-pocket-problem.452864/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/wifi-problem.454735/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/delayed-notifications-on-my-oneplus3.455457/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/notification-sound-issues.454209/unread
I can paste another hundred links to this list
To add to the misery of some who purchased the phone, the oneplus team is not even confirmimg if they will be providing a fix to all those issues and bugs being faced on their device
I need all of you to raise your concerns and ask the reviewers to include these issues in their reviews by updating them and forcing oneplus team to fix these issues as soon as possible.
Edited: This thread does not target any specific person so let's be respectful to each other and avoid personal attacks.
A list of mostly minor ROM problems.
Sit down and wait for updates.
How many bugs did S7 have when it was released?
How many bugs did iPhone 6SE/iOS 9 have when it was released?
When was the last time you wrote to Samsung/Apple support and they confirmed anything about fixing a problem you were having?
I agree that poor ram management, poor video audio, nonfunctional OIS in 1080p ahold have easily been spotted by reviewers. It's disappointing that we found out about these things after paying for the device.
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I closed the other thread and will leave this one open if the discussion stays clean and does not turn into a flaming war. Please be respectful of people opinions and dont belittle anyone.
Thanks
Wolf
SynisterWolf said:
I closed the other thread and will leave this one open if the discussion stays clean and does not turn into a flaming war. Please be respectful of people opinions and dont belittle anyone.
Thanks
Wolf
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I have respectfully raised my concern.. now I would request you to monitor other people's posts if they turn it into a war
does the warranty is less than one month in your country?
gruntyoldbag said:
A list of mostly minor ROM problems.
Sit down and wait for updates.
How many bugs did S7 have when it was released?
How many bugs did iPhone 6SE/iOS 9 have when it was released?
When was the last time you wrote to Samsung/Apple support and they confirmed anything about fixing a problem you were having?
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Agree to your post, but the issues being faced are of the level that they are not allowing a proper daily use of the phone like i am not gettinf push notifications when the phone is standby causing to miss emails and messages.
And sometimes the phone goes completely silent and does not ring causing to miss phone calls n messages
Now these are basics of a phone.. other issues could have been avoided. have you faced such issues with other phones?
I look at OnePlus 3 purchase like buying a new car. You test drive it, initially everything seems perfect and them specs (under the hood) is irresistible. Sometime you have a recall or new programming (updates) and certain things you don't like (example like that rattle in the trunk that won't go away) that will be never be fixed or covered. (No updates). At this point, I am just glad we have xda (who will come up with these fixes-like rattle) modifications and that it's not a lemon.
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If you go by complains in forum posts then every device review will be 0/10
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I'll use your own method when you don't get the answer your want m_usmanayub : why you don't use the warranty? It's sure you don't have it for me than one year
Envoyé de mon ONEPLUS A3003 en utilisant Tapatalk
I'm sure the big one get $$$$ for reviews.
Gesendet von meinem Redmi Note 3 mit Tapatalk
gruntyoldbag said:
A list of mostly minor ROM problems.
Sit down and wait for updates.
How many bugs did S7 have when it was released?
How many bugs did iPhone 6SE/iOS 9 have when it was released?
When was the last time you wrote to Samsung/Apple support and they confirmed anything about fixing a problem you were having?
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Exactly..
Hello... OP,
First link of your post doesn't working.
You're a power user. Can the Xiaomi Mi Max 3 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Xiaomi Mi Max 3. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
To answer all your questions here in MM3 forum go and check MM1 or 2 forums. Poor delivery of promised updates from Xiaomi and delayed or no sources released is a real good way to help the development...
Xiaomi should learn from other OEMs how they treat there uses. Hell 15 days to unlock bootloaders and you are talking about development.
Jay_B said:
To answer all your questions here in MM3 forum go and check MM1 or 2 forums. Poor delivery of promised updates from Xiaomi and delayed or no sources released is a real good way to help the development...
Xiaomi should learn from other OEMs how they treat there uses. Hell 15 days to unlock bootloaders and you are talking about development.
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Well, i unlocked max1 recently with no time to wait, only signing with same account that phone in miui unlock app.
For development, sorry, i can't comment because i'm confortable with miui.
jjrojo said:
Well, i unlocked max1 recently with no time to wait, only signing with same account that phone in miui unlock app.
For development, sorry, i can't comment because i'm confortable with miui.
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Even I had used the same account to unlock my MM2 the one I used for my MM1 it took 7 days. The height was when I requested to unlock my friends phone using my mi account. I need to purchase a VPN which aupported Chinese server because I kept getting errors. After 3 days it took the request to unlock and the I received the message to wait for 2 weeks. Please check MIUI form unless they have changed the process in the last 2-3 months its 15 days.
You might be comfortable using MIUi but not everyone shares the same option. Also the OP is talking about custom rom development.
Jay_B said:
Even I had used the same account to unlock my MM2 the one I used for my MM1 it took 7 days. The height was when I requested to unlock my friends phone using my mi account. I need to purchase a VPN which aupported Chinese server because I kept getting errors. After 3 days it took the request to unlock and the I received the message to wait for 2 weeks. Please check MIUI form unless they have changed the process in the last 2-3 months its 15 days.
You might be comfortable using MIUi but not everyone shares the same option. Also the OP is talking about custom rom development.
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Sorry, only want share my experience, i believe xiaomi has changed the method for unlocking and you dont need to wait for it; but i unlocked an only one phone. Thanks.
jjrojo said:
Sorry, only want share my experience, i believe xiaomi has changed the method for unlocking and you dont need to wait for it; but i unlocked an only one phone. Thanks.
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No bro. Don't be sorry. Why should we users argue for something Xiaomi is doing. It's all cool. Just wanted the users to know how Xiaomi treats there users. If you posting anything like this there forum there mods just ban you for like a month or permanently. So no free speech there. I was banned there for a month because I said the truth. So hope you understand.
Off course
I hope some dev interested on this device..so we will enjoy it
raymondsanusi said:
I hope some dev interested on this device..so we will enjoy it
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I hope some of the MI Max 2 devs consider this upgrade because they did a great job with the variety of stable custom roms!
Tazmaniiac said:
I hope some of the MI Max 2 devs consider this upgrade because they did a great job with the variety of stable custom roms!
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Yeah..we know..but it took long time for mi max 2 to developed (because xiaomi)..
Just hope they dont mess this time..
Really interested in the max 3 hardware wise, but I'm using mix 2s now which came out around the same time as oneplus 6 and mix 2s has almost no scene while 1+ already have tons of custom roms.
And I can't stand MIUI, so resorted GSI rom, thanks to treble, which can't take advantage of the dual lens cam.
So..
Ah, kernel source code will be released soon...!!!!
What do you think, guys!?
Official mention
[5 month later...] Would BlackSharkCode update this repository? · Issue #2 · BlackSharkCode/BlackShark_Kernel_OpenSource
I bought Black Shark 3S, Is the repository here not updated anymore, can you provide a device tree and kernel like Xiaomi?
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koumaza said:
Ah, kernel source code will be released soon...!!!!
What do you think, guys!?
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Hope they also release fastboot rom for this device,slow developement compare to other Xiaomi model.some basic setting like double tap to wake/sleep not exist on global rom,slow fingerpirnt sensor,push notification bug!kind of regreting a little now
cinmil said:
Hope they also release fastboot rom for this device,slow developement compare to other Xiaomi model.some basic setting like double tap to wake/sleep not exist on global rom,slow fingerpirnt sensor,push notification bug!kind of regreting a little now
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Not receiving push notifications is fatal... I think too
Probably an optimization for the game, but it's not necessary.
However, I like the hardware very much.
Fastboot ROM source code will probably not be released as it is.
[email protected] or you're able to comment on the issue.
@BlackSharkCode commented 27 days ago
[5 month later...] Would BlackSharkCode update this repository? · Issue #2 · BlackSharkCode/BlackShark_Kernel_OpenSource
I bought Black Shark 3S, Is the repository here not updated anymore, can you provide a device tree and kernel like Xiaomi?
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Let's laugh... Hah-hahha
Kernel will not be released, at least for while you're alive.
I'm hating all of this so much, a simple file, they have to upload a single file, and after 26-27 days nothing to be seen. This is not the only issue, there is another one with the same answer. It is as if air came out of thei mouths
Im trying to ask myself why still they haven't upload the kernel source yet? There's so much hardware potential on the phone being hold back just waiting to get unleashed .
Hoping they'll released it this year together with others 865 devices
i contacted them, the same Jason answered me :
Jason (Black Shark)
Jan 25, 2021, 15:30 GMT+8
Hello
We have not released KR for BS3 yet, which would take awhile for the leadership to make such strategic decision.
Best Regards,
Black Shark Global
so.... no way...
Last blackshark i buy
sco-mito said:
i contacted them, the same Jason answered me :
Jason (Black Shark)
Jan 25, 2021, 15:30 GMT+8
Hello
We have not released KR for BS3 yet, which would take awhile for the leadership to make such strategic decision.
Best Regards,
Black Shark Global
so.... no way...
Last blackshark i buy
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Ok we are not going to get anything
Frostum21 said:
Ok we are not going to get anything
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We will if you stop thinking that way but instead you can comment on that github page coz the devs are replying there. Demand that we really need them to release the souces. You should get what's your $ worth and it might become your most worth it buy when they decided to release it
sco-mito said:
i contacted them, the same Jason answered me :
Jason (Black Shark)
Jan 25, 2021, 15:30 GMT+8
Hello
We have not released KR for BS3 yet, which would take awhile for the leadership to make such strategic decision.
Best Regards,
Black Shark Global
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This is an LOL! If the LEADERS STRATEGY is to increase the sales, then releasing the kernel sources will definitely attracts more users because of the phone's development potential will increase by 10 folds.
Jbazt_katuforzs said:
We will if you stop thinking that way but instead you can comment on that github page coz the devs are replying there. Demand that we really need them to release the souces. You should get what's your $ worth and it might become your most worth it buy when they decided to release it
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Comment on GitHub? I answered every comment blacksharkcode has done, I contacted the email of the GitHub account. They're not replying, they replied one time, more than 30 days ago
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Comment on GitHub? I answered every comment blacksharkcode has done, I contacted the email of the GitHub account. They're not replying, they replied one time, more than 30 days ago
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I see. Thanks for doing that. Hmmm this is frustrating and disappointing. I wish there's a link where someone can truly help us report them coz its hard to think I'll be spending my months with a closed source device. It's fine if they're consistent on the security patches and ota s, but thats not been the case. I'd be willing to take a 3rd of my money back as a refund FAK I WILL NOT BUY ANY BLACKSHARK PHONE AGAIN EVER.
The question here is whether there is a person named Jason.
I also contacted Global Support twice, and Jason took care of it all.
Only distrust remains.
Took it to Xiaomi's github aswell, let's see if we can get an answer.
Blackshark 2/3/3s/3pro Kernel source · Issue #2191 · MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
Will the kernel source for the Xiaomi Blackshark 3 be released soon? I did some research about promises from Blackshark/Xiaomi and i'm really worried! Sources for Blackshark 2 were promised but NEV...
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Yes really good
Kernel! Kernel! Kernel! Custom Roms! Ahhhhhh! Kill me pls
I'm not sure but back on those days of Android 2.3.4, I used to successfully crossed ports official OEM firmwares from other devices with similar CPU/GPU. All that it need back then was a custom recovery of the port's recipient and a backup of the firmware we trying to port. I stopped playing around with my phones these passed few years, so I'm wondering if we could do that as well to the recent Android versions? I believed we have similar SOC/Android versions phones that's currently active in development. We already got custom recovery anyways.