I have two hammerheads, one from Google Play store and one from Sprint - Nexus 5 General

The problem I am having is with my T-Mobile sim in the Sprint nexus I get very weak UMTS/HSPA signal where I normally get full signal. Constantly dropping signal and what have you.
I also cannot get LTE. In LTE only mode, when I am outside where I get good LTE signal on my google play nexus 5 (capable of 30 megs down), the sprint nexus 5 sees every network except t-mobile's. I'm talking about the search for network menu, it shows AT&T almost always, shows verizon and metropcs' old network (311 660) and also shows sprint's lte network. All but T-Mobile's
So I decided I would swap out the antenna (the piece at the bottom held in by 4 screws that also has the loudspeaker attached to it).
With the sprint nexus' antenna in my google play nexus, everything works just fine in my google play nexus. With the google play nexus' antenna in the sprint nexus, nothings different and I cannot get LTE at all and weak HSPA.
it says "HH.SKU.1.0905" on my google play nexus 5, on the sprint one it says "HH.SKU.1.0816"
both hardware version 11. the water sticker on the sprint nexus is slightly pink, but i havent noticed any other problems
once i get in touch with my buddy who has sprint im gonna test his sim in this and see if i can get full signal LTE or what

gnarlycs said:
The problem I am having is with my T-Mobile sim in the Sprint nexus I get very weak UMTS/HSPA signal where I normally get full signal. Constantly dropping signal and what have you.
I also cannot get LTE. In LTE only mode, when I am outside where I get good LTE signal on my google play nexus 5 (capable of 30 megs down), the sprint nexus 5 sees every network except t-mobile's. I'm talking about the search for network menu, it shows AT&T almost always, shows verizon and metropcs' old network (311 660) and also shows sprint's lte network. All but T-Mobile's
So I decided I would swap out the antenna (the piece at the bottom held in by 4 screws that also has the loudspeaker attached to it).
With the sprint nexus' antenna in my google play nexus, everything works just fine in my google play nexus. With the google play nexus' antenna in the sprint nexus, nothings different and I cannot get LTE at all and weak HSPA.
it says "HH.SKU.1.0905" on my google play nexus 5, on the sprint one it says "HH.SKU.1.0816"
both hardware version 11. the water sticker on the sprint nexus is slightly pink, but i havent noticed any other problems
once i get in touch with my buddy who has sprint im gonna test his sim in this and see if i can get full signal LTE or what
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Assuming it didn't get too wet to mess things up, are the radios the same and ROMs the same and the bands in *#*#4636#*#* under Phone, menu, Bands?

MrObvious said:
Assuming it didn't get too wet to mess things up, are the radios the same and ROMs the same and the bands in *#*#4636#*#* under Phone, menu, Bands?
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When u say radio do you mean the firmware or the physical hardware? How do I check that and can't I try some different radio firmwares and maybe one will work?

gnarlycs said:
When u say radio do you mean the firmware or the physical hardware? How do I check that and can't I try some different radio firmwares and maybe one will work?
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Firmware. Verify everything is the same in Settings -> About Phone (Baseband version, build number)

gnarlycs said:
The problem I am having is with my T-Mobile sim in the Sprint nexus I get very weak UMTS/HSPA signal where I normally get full signal. Constantly dropping signal and what have you.
I also cannot get LTE. In LTE only mode, when I am outside where I get good LTE signal on my google play nexus 5 (capable of 30 megs down), the sprint nexus 5 sees every network except t-mobile's. I'm talking about the search for network menu, it shows AT&T almost always, shows verizon and metropcs' old network (311 660) and also shows sprint's lte network. All but T-Mobile's
So I decided I would swap out the antenna (the piece at the bottom held in by 4 screws that also has the loudspeaker attached to it).
With the sprint nexus' antenna in my google play nexus, everything works just fine in my google play nexus. With the google play nexus' antenna in the sprint nexus, nothings different and I cannot get LTE at all and weak HSPA.
it says "HH.SKU.1.0905" on my google play nexus 5, on the sprint one it says "HH.SKU.1.0816"
both hardware version 11. the water sticker on the sprint nexus is slightly pink, but i havent noticed any other problems
once i get in touch with my buddy who has sprint im gonna test his sim in this and see if i can get full signal LTE or what
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Maybe i am wrong. But how could you expect a Sprint device to get GSM LTE? They(sprint) use different band and different technology for LTE than T-Mobile's.
I already mod my sprint lg g2 and galaxy s4 to work on att 3g network. But there is no way they could get att LTE. No a chance. It is hardware difference.
You could unlock a att device to work on T-Mobile LTE. But not a sprint device. Physically can't dow

bbedward said:
Firmware. Verify everything is the same in Settings -> About Phone (Baseband version, build number)
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i tried with stock L preview and then went to stock kitkatt 4.4.4 and now im using multirom with cm11. the basebands are the same
laofan said:
Maybe i am wrong. But how could you expect a Sprint device to get GSM LTE? They(sprint) use different band and different technology for LTE than T-Mobile's.
I already mod my sprint lg g2 and galaxy s4 to work on att 3g network. But there is no way they could get att LTE. No a chance. It is hardware difference.
You could unlock a att device to work on T-Mobile LTE. But not a sprint device. Physically can't dow
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sorry to bust the news but you are wrong because all nexus 5 devices (not counting overseas) support the same frequencies. sprint uses 800 mhz lte, tmobile uses 1700/2100. all american nexus 5s support both those

gnarlycs said:
i tried with stock L preview and then went to stock kitkatt 4.4.4 and now im using multirom with cm11. the basebands are the same
sorry to bust the news but you are wrong because all nexus 5 devices (not counting overseas) support the same frequencies. sprint uses 800 mhz lte, tmobile uses 1700/2100. all american nexus 5s support both those
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The nexus 5's are all the same. The S4 and G2 he was referring to are not (but we are talking about the nexus 5 at least )
If everythings configured the same, probably some other fault in the device. I'm not entirely sure what antenna you removed but are you sure it's the right one?

bbedward said:
The nexus 5's are all the same. The S4 and G2 he was referring to are not (but we are talking about the nexus 5 at least )
If everythings configured the same, probably some other fault in the device. I'm not entirely sure what antenna you removed but are you sure it's the right one?
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here's an update. the guy i bought the sprint nexus from wants to buy it back from me. so i'm guessing there's nothing wrong with it considering he wants to use it again

I recently ditched sprint and went to tmobile with my sprint n5 I had to do a factory reset but it works perfectly.

gnarlycs said:
here's an update. the guy i bought the sprint nexus from wants to buy it back from me. so i'm guessing there's nothing wrong with it considering he wants to use it again
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Now that all the noise is gone ...
Sure the problem wasn't one really it's just some Sprint exclusive settings which you can change ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/n5-hidden-field-test-mode-t2524744

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New to the Nexus 4

I'm new to the Nexus 4. I'm coming from the ATT LG Optimus G which I know is pretty much the same phone. But just wasn't for me. I couldn't get LTE at all with that phone no matter what I did. Apn's, build.prop, radio's, hidden menus, nothing gave me LTE. Development was a little lacky since only a few roms are active. A friend of mine told me to just get a Nexus 4, root it, unlock the bootloader, flash a good rom, flash a .33 radio, change the icon on the to get the 4G LTE and you will get LTE since it has AWS. I had an horrible experience converting the LGOG to Nexus 4. I had so much freaking bugs here and there and lost 50 percent performance of the phone. It was a nightmare.
One downside I did notice about the Nexus 4 that both LGOG and Nexus 4 share the same sizescreen,but the Nexus 4 has on screen soft keys and LGOG has dedicated soft buttons which makes the LGOG a plus one on the screen side since it has more room and the screen looks bigger for some apparent reason.
So what do you think guys? Did I make the right choice? I think I did
I think you did.
Why does it matter?
Enjoy the endless options of optimization that the n4 offers you!
To me, yes. For me it's nexus > everything else.
If you wanna take back the soft key part, flash PA and use PIE.
I sold the nexus 4 last night and I bought myself a HTC one.. .... Jk yeah right I fell in love with this phone after unlocking/rooting/flashed my first ROM last night and there are endless ROMs I don't know what to do. Its like a buffet
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I had pie on my lgog using vanilla aokp root box rom and I kept thinking what was pie for since it was utterly useless feature for the lgog. Now it make sense that its meant for the nexus 4.
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Z33type said:
I'm new to the Nexus 4. I'm coming from the ATT LG Optimus G which I know is pretty much the same phone. But just wasn't for me. I couldn't get LTE at all with that phone no matter what I did. Apn's, build.prop, radio's, hidden menus, nothing gave me LTE. Development was a little lacky since only a few roms are active. A friend of mine told me to just get a Nexus 4, root it, unlock the bootloader, flash a good rom, flash a .33 radio, change the icon on the to get the 4G LTE and you will get LTE since it has AWS. I had an horrible experience converting the LGOG to Nexus 4. I had so much freaking bugs here and there and lost 50 percent performance of the phone. It was a nightmare.
One downside I did notice about the Nexus 4 that both LGOG and Nexus 4 share the same sizescreen,but the Nexus 4 has on screen soft keys and LGOG has dedicated soft buttons which makes the LGOG a plus one on the screen side since it has more room and the screen looks bigger for some apparent reason.
So what do you think guys? Did I make the right choice? I think I did
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does tmobile have lte up in your area? if it doesnt, there nothing you can do thatll give you lte.
I don't believe the nexus 4 has a lte chip in it anyways. So even if T-Mobile had lte don't think it picks it up due to the fact the phone has to have a lte chip to connect. I'm pretty sure Google didn't put one in ....unless its there jus not activated. But I don't think so.
Lockrings//Softkeys//GlowDots...and much more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40240608
In terms of LTE support on ATT, you might you might not get it depending on the coverage area band/s ATT LTE runs in your area. N4 only has AWS 4 band LTE, so if ATT doesn't have that in your area, you can switch to Tmo which does support AWS 4. Check out the ALL LTE & Tmo threads to find out more.
matthew0776 said:
I don't believe the nexus 4 has a lte chip in it anyways. So even if T-Mobile had lte don't think it picks it up due to the fact the phone has to have a lte chip to connect. I'm pretty sure Google didn't put one in ....unless its there jus not activated. But I don't think so.
Lockrings//Softkeys//GlowDots...and much more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40240608
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tmobile lte on my nexus 4 in queens, ny. the n4 does have a lte chip, but its not officially there since the lte chip was never approved by the fcc. so google disabled lte in the latest radio. but, with an older radio, you can use lte.
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Be sure to reflash the entire stock ROM via fast boot alone (then flash whatever ROM you want). I got an extra 1.5 hours screen on time doing that. No idea why...just a suggestion if you're struggling to get 3 hours screen on time daily (like I was). I now average 4 hours screen on time daily.
I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
jj71787 said:
I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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If you can wait....definitely wait it out. Operative word being....if.
simms22 said:
does tmobile have lte up in your area? if it doesnt, there nothing you can do thatll give you lte.
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I'm with T-Mobile,but Ive been always a fan on AT&T Phones since they always have better mid level phones than T-Mobile. I use to have the ATT Motorola Atrix HD unlocked. I slap my sim card on that and didn't even have to change any APN settings. Immediately picked up LTE. And to answer your question. Yes we have LTE in Phoenix, AZ.
ghostrid3r said:
In terms of LTE support on ATT, you might you might not get it depending on the coverage area band/s ATT LTE runs in your area. N4 only has AWS 4 band LTE, so if ATT doesn't have that in your area, you can switch to Tmo which does support AWS 4. Check out the ALL LTE & Tmo threads to find out more.
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I've been on that thread. I was directed to that thread on the ATT LGOG section. We have LTE in Phoenix,AZ. I should have stated that the phone was unlocked for any sim and me being a T-Mobile customer and all.
Either way for now T-Mobile is kicking ATT's butt in LTE coverage and speeds,but I also heard that ATT are investing over a billion not millions,but billions of dollars into towers and boosting up their LTE speeds.
Not that LTE really matters,but just a nice feature to have and LGOG was not supporting T-Mobile LTE's bands.
Here is a screenshot of my LTE on my Nexus. " Note that the 4G is really LTE on the Nexus 4" I changed the icon and used the LTE settings from the market. Shows that I have LTE on the network type.
Z33type said:
I'm with T-Mobile,but Ive been always a fan on AT&T Phones since they always have better mid level phones than T-Mobile. I use to have the ATT Motorola Atrix HD unlocked. I slap my sim card on that and didn't even have to change any APN settings. Immediately picked up LTE. And to answer your question. Yes we have LTE in Phoenix, AZ.
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on the nexus 4 you have to change the apn. it doesnt come with default lte apn settings.
jj71787 said:
I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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Sell the Amaze and get the Nexus 4 and call it a day. Nexus 4 are cheap if you score one on Craigslist. I bought mine for 250 dollars semi new 16gb unlocked already from Craigslist. Seller bought it from Google Play store and she didn't like it. She was a apple fan girl. Only sad part that is I had to drive 20 miles to pick it up. WORTH IT!
simms22 said:
on the nexus 4 you have to change the apn. it doesnt come with default lte apn settings.
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Whatever APN settings I put on my LGOG was backed up by google and transfered to my Nexus when I logged on to my google account.
fast.t-mobile.com and all other proxy, ipv's mmsc. has been transfered over.
Z33type said:
Whatever APN settings I put on my LGOG was backed up by google and transfered to my Nexus when I logged on to my google account.
fast.t-mobile.com and all other proxy, ipv's mmsc. has been transfered over.
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oh cool. then you need either the .33 radio or .27. also, theres a build.prop edit you need and an edit for sound during calls(ill link a flashable), and you need to change the phone/radio to lte/gsm.
flash this, it should take care of the build.peop edit and in call sound https://www.box.com/s/h16b3wlrq8op6us7ifsv
Beat you to it already with the .33 radio as you can see on the previous posts that I posted a screenshot of my lte. But the in call sound I shall do but so far I am not experiencing any bugs with the in calls on the .33 radio.
.27 radio doesn't lock so well on the GPS as the .33 does. Wish the .48 had lte and also wish that developers can play with radios but its illegal to even hack radios to begin with.
Now my next issue is. I remember seeing a site or thread somewhere on how to make lte stick even on after booting. I keep having keep changing the prefer network as it sticks to wcdma every boot.
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Reading your first post, I thought u were gonna somehow flash Optimus G firmware onto the Nexus 4 to get LTE under ATT.
I'm glad you got it working under T-Mobile LTE.

AT&T reports my Nexus 5 as "LG 821"

I thought this was kind of interesting...
I bought my Nexus 5 from Tmobile (north america), found out that I have very little (read: zero) coverage between my home and work, so I had to cancel. I went ahead and paid off the N5 and switched to AT&T.
Oddly enough, the myAT&T screen shows me as having a LG 821, which, I believe, is the international version!
I found that concerning as I thought Tmobile might have worked better for me if I had the correct phone... but my bootloader shows D820.
Anyone else have the same quark on their myAT&T page?
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Funny - never noticed this before either, but AT&T reports mine as the 821 also.
I have the 820 model.
mr_blanket said:
I thought this was kind of interesting...
I bought my Nexus 5 from Tmobile (north america), found out that I have very little (read: zero) coverage between my home and work, so I had to cancel. I went ahead and paid off the N5 and switched to AT&T.
Oddly enough, the myAT&T screen shows me as having a LG 821, which, I believe, is the international version!
I found that concerning as I thought Tmobile might have worked better for me if I had the correct phone... but my bootloader shows D820.
Anyone else have the same quark on their myAT&T page?
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My wife and I both have Nexus 5's on at&t. I bought her's from google and mine from tmobile. Ours both show 821 too, but they are 820's. If they were 821's, you would have no LTE. Im in atlanta with lte everywhere.
LG 821 too, bought it from the Google store. I can use the wap.cingular apn only. No LTE for me.
LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>
WoodburyMan said:
LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>
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Do any of you get throttled on AT&T with the Nexus 5? I have the Galaxy Nexus, but a cracked screen and now water damage is making me purchase a new phone, and I have yet to be throttled while regularly using over 5G/month.
Thanks!
You only get throttled (or more accurately, your usage is only metered in the throttling system) when using PHONE or PTA apn. Using a galaxy nexus without lte, you're most likely on wap.cingular (which you can do on a phone with no lte). Once their system detects you're imei and determines you have an lte capable device, you're blocked from using wap.cingular, and this your usage will be monitored (as you'll need to use phone or pta). I can trick the system by putting my sim in my old non lte GS2 (i9100), doing "restore apns" then sim swapping back to my nexus 5. THEN I can use wap.cingular, but unfortunately after a day or two they do an imei sweep and I get locked out again On the bright side tmo just announced they'll be eliminating edge and upgrading everything to lte by 2015 so I'm looking forward to dumping ATT very soon.
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schwin97 said:
Do any of you get throttled on AT&T with the Nexus 5? I have the Galaxy Nexus, but a cracked screen and now water damage is making me purchase a new phone, and I have yet to be throttled while regularly using over 5G/month.
Thanks!
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No throttle. On 6gb family share plan now. I can get over 50mbit/s in SpeedTest with full LTE signal. 95% of the time I'm on WiFi so to boot LTE speeds don't really matter. My data usage last month was a whole 500mb.
Not sure if the International has a different structure for the ESN/IMEI but its quite possible the 821 is what they have in their system as the Nexus 5. They do have traveling customers on the device but more likely prepaid customers. Interesting one indeed.
WoodburyMan said:
No throttle. On 6gb family share plan now. I can get over 50mbit/s in SpeedTest with full LTE signal. 95% of the time I'm on WiFi so to boot LTE speeds don't really matter. My data usage last month was a whole 500mb.
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He's asking about the UNLIMITED plan being throttled I'm sure, and yes it will after 5gb, unless you're on the wap.cingular apn as I described above.
I should mention that the Nexus 4 will NOT be blocked from wap.cingular as it does not have LTE, so if true unlimited data is that important maybe the Nexus 4 might be a better choice.
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ATT sent me a message saying I would be throttled at 3GB even though I have "unlimited data", and being throttled sucks, its awful.
mistahseller said:
ATT sent me a message saying I would be throttled at 3GB even though I have "unlimited data", and being throttled sucks, its awful.
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Should be 5gb on an LTE device. I'd call in with your imei to get put on an LTE unlimited plan if you're not already (hspa plans throttle after 3gb.). Note that you don't need to be on LTE or even have an LTE device, you just need any att compatible imei to give them so you're on the right plan.
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I got mine from Google, it's the unlocked version, and AT&T is also saying it's an LG 821.
How Do I Check The Model Number?
Hi,
Bought my phone from Google Play. How do I check the model number other then the boot loader?
I checked in 'About Phone', can't find it.
Edit. XDA really has to stop ads from playing with audio with while on the site, drives me nuts.
I tried to use the phone on PTA or Phone APN but it only accepts wap.cingular, because I switched from a 3G phone. The CS rep said my plan is not compatible with LTE, and nothing can be done. I am stuck with HSPA. Oh well, the plus side, I am not throttled.
WoodburyMan said:
LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>
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This is not true. My wife has a T-Mobile N5 and I have a play store N5. Just started ATT service yesterday and we both have LTE. Also both devices show up as LG 821.
KedarWolf said:
Hi,
Bought my phone from Google Play. How do I check the model number other then the boot loader?
I checked in 'About Phone', can't find it.
Edit. XDA really has to stop ads from playing with audio with while on the site, drives me nuts.
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Did you try looking at the box?
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Jerryatric said:
This is not true. My wife has a T-Mobile N5 and I have a play store N5. Just started ATT service yesterday and we both have LTE. Also both devices show up as LG 821.
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This is true in some cases. It depends on the person that sets your phone up. Search. When they provision the phone, some AT&T workers, since the Nexus 5 is officially not in their provisioning software, have to select a generic template. If they are smart and do the right thing, you get set up with a LTE capable provisioning for your phone that works perfect. Some however don't know what they are doing and set the phone up with a plan that cannot access 3G for whatever reason. It completely depends on the person provisioning your phone. With phones that are in AT&T's system that might be unlocked but are in their system, such as Galaxy S4 Google Edition or something, it works no problem since the S4 is in their system. However with "oddball" phones like ours that AT&T doesn't officially support you run into issues as some workers may not know how to handle them.

[Q] Verizon Moto X on AT&T

Okay, so here we go..
This is a thread we've all seen before 1000 times, except.. mines a little different.
So after having Verizon for a few years, and getting real tired of their ****.. I cancelled my contract, paid my fees and dipped. I work at a RadioShack and we get a real killer deal on AT&T plans, so I couldn't pass it up. Now as far as getting a new device, I decided to wait until the Moto X+1 drops in August to pick up a phone, and since the Verizon Moto X is Sim Unlocked, I grabbed a nano Sim out of the drawer, and went to town.
Believe it or not.. Everything turned out better than expected. I wasn't getting LTE, but I was getting HSPA+ at around 12-15mbps, which I could live with for the time being. Called AT&T just to see if there were any chance of me getting LTE. Found out, that the XT1060 (the Verizon Moto X) registers in their system as a Moto Droid Razr, which since that isn't a LTE phone, they won't try to send that associated SIM LTE. So between me, the customer service guy, and my AT&T Rep.. We figured if we threw any old XT1058 IMEI on my account, it would send the SIM LTE signal.. Got that done, and presto. LTE!
Now.. Hereeeeeee comes the fun part.
3-4 days later now.. I woke up this morning, and noticed my phone had -NO- service, whatsoever.. So I power cycle it, and it comes back up, gives me that bull**** "This Sim is from an unknown source" bull****.. and then proceeds to show me my LTE is back. I go to call my AT&T rep, and it comes up "Mobile Network Unavailable". Phone flickers black, sends me back to the home screen, and my service bar starts going berserk. It switches from No service, to 3 bars of H+, 1 bar of H, full bars of E, 2 bars of LTE, and everything in between. I'm standing still, and this thing is going craaaaaaaaaazy. Finally, it dies down and starts to even out at about 4 bars of H+. Any time it pops up with LTE, i get super awesome speeds, but cant make any kind of calls, or texts, and when I try to call/text, it does the service cycling thing again.
Any ideas?
I'm of course on 4.4.2, so I can't root.. So all the solutions need to be non-root capable.
inb4 just sell it and get an AT&T Moto X.
I plan on it, if all else fails. Why not try to breathe just a little bit of life into this one first.
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Okay, so here we go..
This is a thread we've all seen before 1000 times, except.. mines a little different.
So after having Verizon for a few years, and getting real tired of their ****.. I cancelled my contract, paid my fees and dipped. I work at a RadioShack and we get a real killer deal on AT&T plans, so I couldn't pass it up. Now as far as getting a new device, I decided to wait until the Moto X+1 drops in August to pick up a phone, and since the Verizon Moto X is Sim Unlocked, I grabbed a nano Sim out of the drawer, and went to town.
Believe it or not.. Everything turned out better than expected. I wasn't getting LTE, but I was getting HSPA+ at around 12-15mbps, which I could live with for the time being. Called AT&T just to see if there were any chance of me getting LTE. Found out, that the XT1060 (the Verizon Moto X) registers in their system as a Moto Droid Razr, which since that isn't a LTE phone, they won't try to send that associated SIM LTE. So between me, the customer service guy, and my AT&T Rep.. We figured if we threw any old XT1058 IMEI on my account, it would send the SIM LTE signal.. Got that done, and presto. LTE!
Now.. Hereeeeeee comes the fun part.
3-4 days later now.. I woke up this morning, and noticed my phone had -NO- service, whatsoever.. So I power cycle it, and it comes back up, gives me that bull**** "This Sim is from an unknown source" bull****.. and then proceeds to show me my LTE is back. I go to call my AT&T rep, and it comes up "Mobile Network Unavailable". Phone flickers black, sends me back to the home screen, and my service bar starts going berserk. It switches from No service, to 3 bars of H+, 1 bar of H, full bars of E, 2 bars of LTE, and everything in between. I'm standing still, and this thing is going craaaaaaaaaazy. Finally, it dies down and starts to even out at about 4 bars of H+. Any time it pops up with LTE, i get super awesome speeds, but cant make any kind of calls, or texts, and when I try to call/text, it does the service cycling thing again.
Any ideas?
I'm of course on 4.4.2, so I can't root.. So all the solutions need to be non-root capable.
inb4 just sell it and get an AT&T Moto X.
I plan on it, if all else fails. Why not try to breathe just a little bit of life into this one first.
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This a known issue on 4.4.2 - it has been reported by many users. From what I understand, Verizon did -something- because they didn't want their devices being use on domestic U.S. carriers. From all reports, GSM works flawlessly on international carriers, but has issues on domestic.
Before I advise you that it would be best to sell your X and get another, I will see if any other users have suggestions for you.
Also, if you DO decide to sell, I highly suggest that you do NOT buy the AT&T Moto X. The AT&T variant is not bootloader-unlockable (so no root/write-protect-disable), AND it is SIM-Locked to AT&T. Instead, buy the T-Mobile variant! The T-Mobile variant comes with NO bloat, IS bootloader unlockable (hello root!), AND is SIM-Unlocked for ANY GSM carrier (including AT&T). The AT&T variant DOES support 2 additional LTE bands, but AT&T has not implemented these bands in the United States yet. They are only testing the new bands in a few select markets. This means that the T-Mobile variant will support all LTE frequencies currently used by AT&T, AND has the added benefit of supporting the AWS band that is used extensively by T-Mobile, should you ever have reason to switch.
Good Luck
the message of "This Sim is from an unknown source" is part of the Verizon ROM. It was introduced with the 4.4 update. It was not there in 4.2.2 and 4.2.2 with camera fix.
The issue of trying to use LTE and the phone rebooting is known. There is discussion in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/verizon-moto-x-t-mobile-t2578665 as well as work around and potential fixes. While its centered around T-Mobile as the network, the same tips/tricks could be modified for use on ATT.
Since the Verizon X supports LTE Band 4 and 13, and ATT is using Bands 2, 4, 5, 7 and 17, you're only going to get ATT LTE where they have Band 4, the easy way to fix is just force the X to NOT use LTE, or remove that XT1058 IMEI to go back to ATT thinking you have a GSM/GPRS/HSPA device.
Thanks for sharing that.
I found this:
These are the steps I used to turn off LTE and enable HSPA:
1) Download/install the app LTE OnOff
2) Change Mobile Network type in Settings to LTE / GSM / UMTS
3) On LTE OnOff, hit the Three-Dot menu in the top right, and select "Select radio band"
4) Select USA Band
5) Hit the Turn Off Radio button
6) Select GSM auto (PRL) under Preferred Network Type
7) Turn On Radio
The phone should show no data for a second, then 3G, then eventually an H for HSPA will be displayed.
You can also try GSM only or WCDMA preferred if GSM auto doesn't work.
Still trying to figure out how to get LTE to play nice with it.
From here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49521055&postcount=16
I think HSPA+ with 6MB down is plenty for anything we use on a daily basis. I'm debating about picking Droid Ultra Maxx to use on AT&T as well but all the reading about these issues is making me nervous. Moto X + 1 isn't getting here fast enough and I need the extra .3 inches
Edit: I found another link with app and steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591954
I'm curious....won't the phone be a hot mess if you sell it....and have the seller demand a refund?
Here is an interesting observation I made today... I have an xt1060 with a straight talk at&t sim in it...
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how does that work... How am I getting at&t LTE on a Verizon phone
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Does the N910T have the same modem as the N910A?
Does anyone have the flashable zips of both modems? I want to see if using the T-Mobile modem effects the LTE speed on AT&T network.
Thanks!
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Does the N910T have the same modem as the N910A?
Does anyone have the flashable zips of both modems? I want to see if using the T-Mobile modem effects the LTE speed on AT&T network.
Thanks!
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I'd be curious about this as well. I have an unlocked TMo on AT&T - LTE worked great but now I can only get HSPA+ and AT&T claims my phone registers as a Blackberry. Very frustrating.
Mine just stayed acting funny last night. It will only get 4G which is really actually 3g. I have the AT&T version as well. It will only get 4G also now. They might have did something to my Sim, who knows.
OK o just called att and they also said I had a blackberry as my phone. The difference is I have both versions (AT&T and T-Mobile) so when I called I was using the att version. They still couldn't get lte on the att version. Wtf
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OK o just called att and they also said I had a blackberry as my phone. The difference is I have both versions (AT&T and T-Mobile) so when I called I was using the att version. They still couldn't get lte on the att version. Wtf
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How r u verifying that u are only getting 4G and not LTE?
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How r u verifying that u are only getting 4G and not LTE?
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Because it says 4g and not LTE. I'm on dynamic ROM so icons are correct. Also was only getting 2mbs download. It also said HSPA in settings under status. Also AT&T said it was a blackberry on my account which is setup different then regular LTE (there words). But don't matter I got it fixed with AY&T for now.
On top of all this I didn't just jump to conclusions. After all the problems I odined back, tried kernel, tried modem. Then add a last resort I put my son back into my AT&T note 4(yes I have both) and had ZERO data because of my account. That's what spaked the phone call to AT&T.
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Because it says 4g and not LTE. I'm on dynamic ROM so icons are correct. Also was only getting 2mbs download. It also said HSPA in settings under status. Also AT&T said it was a blackberry on my account which is setup different then regular LTE (there words). But don't matter I got it fixed with AY&T for now.
On top of all this I didn't just jump to conclusions. After all the problems I odined back, tried kernel, tried modem. Then add a last resort I put my son back into my AT&T note 4(yes I have both) and had ZERO data because of my account. That's what spaked the phone call to AT&T.
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Just wanted to make sure I was verifying the signal in the same way. I am getting LTE though. Just seemed slow. I checked the speed with the same Sim card on my note 2 and the speed was so not great. I believe AT&T is working on the network in my city though and that's why speed are show where I am.
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Yeah there having issuers here in Naples to and created a trouble ticket. I've never had really good speeds anyways even on the real AT&T version. Samsung radios dont have the strength of a iPhone which sucks really because everything else beats the iPhone except download speeds and reception. (Thoroughly tested this with a buddy that is addicted to iPhone the way I'm addicted to Samsung phones for the last few years)
I lost LTE today on both my note 4 and g3.
Can't get it back no matter what I try.
Sounds like APN issue or Sim card issue. I have a T-Mobile Note 4 on ATT and I've had LTE the whole time...no problems. I did get a new Sim because I was using a nano Sim with adapter. 2g 3g 4g works fine as well. I'm in SW Missouri and my phone shows as a note 4.
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donharden2002 said:
I lost LTE today on both my note 4 and g3.
Can't get it back no matter what I try.
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Make the call.
I have the T-Mobile Variant on AT&T no issues here. I get LTE all the time. I'm still using stock rom.
I still have lte but my phone does show up as a blackberry when I login to myatt. I did not get a new sim card
ElAguila said:
I still have lte but my phone does show up as a blackberry when I login to myatt. I did not get a new sim card
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In my experience with this if ATT has the actual IEMI of the off network device you will only get HSPA/HSPA+ at best. It does not matter what your APN settings are and this can only be fixed by providing an IEMI of a device that was sold with AT&T access from the start.
I made a mistake and provided the IEMI (at the time an unlocked MetroPCS S5) and could not get LTE. I told them that I was switching devices and provided the IEMI of my HTC One M8. After rebooting, LTE came back with good speeds again.
This is one reason why as a tinkerer I prefer AT&T over VZW. Verizon will refuse to activate a non VZW device. AT&T's official word is they will allow it but cannot guarantee speed or reliability. In my experience, however using a TMO or other GSM device with them has been fine.
EDIT:
Just logged in to MyATT and mine is showing up as "Samsung SM-N910T".
All I did was insert a sim card from one of my other devices. I'm using a nano sim to micro adapter as well. It's a PIA however I have an M8 and iphone6 which are both nano devices. I'm surprised that Samsung is still using micro sim cards!
I logged in this morning and mine is now showing as 910T as well. I still have LTE.
Not to hijack the thread, but those of you using TMO's Note 4 on AT&T, is your LTE reception good?
And flashing a different carrier's modem on a device could mess up the IMEI number.
MattMJB0188 said:
Not to hijack the thread, but those of you using TMO's Note 4 on AT&T, is your LTE reception good?
And flashing a different carrier's modem on a device could mess up the IMEI number.
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my brother has tmobile note 4 and we use same provider here in india a wiered issue he is facing , he dsnt gets internet working though we have same apn but mine works fine ....enormous reboots and thousand time restting apn but no use...internet \works but its not sure it will work for 5 mins or 10 mins and signals go away ...and we dont have 4g where i live but whenever it connects it never show h or h+ it shows 4g ...i have tried allmost all roms ( except the ported one) but same results....
anyhelp would be highly appreciated
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Hello,
I just bought the ATT note 4 but still it is not yet on my hands.......I saw that this device has many bands but as I am using t-mobile sim I would like to enable the aws band .......as someone did in this video using a different device ,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb0iCtG4T6I
any help?
thanks
I recently got an n910T for use on AT&T and just stuck my sim card in. I get LTE, but it's slow, like around 6MB down, so more like HSPA speeds. My phone does not show a model on the AT&T website. Should I call AT&T to register my IMEI? The main problem might be that my phone wants to always stay on band 2 even when I am in a signal area with much stronger band 17 (-110dB vs -85dB). When I am at work, in a metal building with AT&T repeaters, it stays on band 17 which is all that is available, so I know it can do band 17, it just does not want to.

Is T-Mo Note 4 best option for AT&T if you want root?

So the AT&T Note 4 is locked down pretty good. Is the T-Mobile version the best version to get to use on AT&T for somebody who wants root? It looks like it has all of the HSPA and LTE bands, so it should work perfectly. Are any of the international versions better options than the T-Mobile version?
Or is T-Mobile the best one for AT&T? Thanks.
Tmo note 4 works great on AT&T. I buy all my phones from Tmo to use on AT&T.
chrispyutec said:
Tmo note 4 works great on AT&T. I buy all my phones from Tmo to use on AT&T.
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How do you buy them? Can you just walk into a T-Mobile store and buy one even with no T-Mobile account?
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From another thread in q&a:
I bought the phone. It was a bit of a process but easy. You have to have a service plan for them to sell you one. So I signed up for the phone and the cheapest plan they would get me. Then went home and called Tmobile customer care and paid the balance of the phone off. Then went to cellunlocker and got an unlock code. Then for the next day or so I used it on AT&T to make sure it had no problems. Then I called up Tmobile and canceled my plan with them.
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I have both AT&T and t mobile note 4. If you want root, you already know what you have to do. The only issue I have ran into is my t mobile version shows up as a blackberry on AT&T network. Took multiple calls to get LTE working correctly. They had to switch my number to a tri band (there verbage not mine) to properly get LTE, even though it still shows up as a RIM device. The fastest LTE I've had in my area is 32mbs with a iPhone next to me getting 64mbs, but also that's not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). But the iPhone also had a stronger radio inside compared to samsung.
sandman7793 said:
I have both AT&T and t mobile note 4. If you want root, you already know what you have to do. The only issue I have ran into is my t mobile version shows up as a blackberry on AT&T network. Took multiple calls to get LTE working correctly. They had to switch my number to a tri band (there verbage not mine) to properly get LTE, even though it still shows up as a RIM device. The fastest LTE I've had in my area is 32mbs with a iPhone next to me getting 64mbs, but also that's not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). But the iPhone also had a stronger radio inside compared to samsung.
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Hey Sandman7793, if you dont mind, could you please explain how exactly you got AT&T to make the changes in order for you to get LTE working on your Tmobile Note 4? I mean did you have to speak to multiple reps on the same phone call? Reason I ask is becuase I had a Tmobile Note 3 and was only getting HSPA using AT&T and when I called they gave me a hard time saying that I couldnt get LTE becuase I was using an unlocked device. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!
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Hey Sandman7793, if you dont mind, could you please explain how exactly you got AT&T to make the changes in order for you to get LTE working on your Tmobile Note 4? I mean did you have to speak to multiple reps on the same phone call? Reason I ask is becuase I had a Tmobile Note 3 and was only getting HSPA using AT&T and when I called they gave me a hard time saying that I couldnt get LTE becuase I was using an unlocked device. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!
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Well the trick was I bought the AT&T version of the note 4 before I bought the t-mobile one. So when I called I had my sim card in the AT&T one when I called. Lol. I have my spare note 4 in the drawer just lying around. When I called they was like, do you have a blackberry, I said no, do people actually use those anymore. Since I have my note on the next program they was like OK no problem. Then they said, is your phone for AT&T network, I said it better be because I bought it from you. Then I rebooted the phone so they could hear the AT&T boot up sound. They had me put in a new APN setting, still no LTE (on the AT&T phone at that) so they escalated the case over to someone else and changed a bunch of settings on there end. Then said maybe they had LTE issues in my area, I said nope I have a iPhone sitting next to me with full LTE. By the time I hung up, the AT&T note 4 had zero LTE and the t-mobile had full LTE, which still till this day I have no clue how that worked out. It still shows a blackberry on my account, but here was my speed earlier so it don't matter to me what the show.
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Well the trick was I bought the AT&T version of the note 4 before I bought the t-mobile one. So when I called I had my sim card in the AT&T one when I called. Lol. I have my spare note 4 in the drawer just lying around. When I called they was like, do you have a blackberry, I said no, do people actually use those anymore. Since I have my note on the next program they was like OK no problem. Then they said, is your phone for AT&T network, I said it better be because I bought it from you. Then I rebooted the phone so they could hear the AT&T boot up sound. They had me put in a new APN setting, still no LTE (on the AT&T phone at that) so they escalated the case over to someone else and changed a bunch of settings on there end. Then said maybe they had LTE issues in my area, I said nope I have a iPhone sitting next to me with full LTE. By the time I hung up, the AT&T note 4 had zero LTE and the t-mobile had full LTE, which still till this day I have no clue how that worked out. It still shows a blackberry on my account, but here was my speed earlier so it don't matter to me what the show.
Did you have a chance to test speeds in your area with both phones connected to both carriers? I am going through a dilemma right now as to which carrier I should choose to go with.
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Actually no. TMO stays on the edge network where I live. It's not even worth the hassle to use there network, at lest for me. But for the sake of argument I will grab it out of drawer tonight and do the rest after I get off work.
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Actually no. TMO stays on the edge network where I live. It's not even worth the hassle to use there network, at lest for me. But for the sake of argument I will grab it out of drawer tonight and do the rest after I get off work.
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ok fair enough. I am seeing hits and misses with speedtests on both. Hard to decide right now.
i"m using the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T and getting great performance. NO issues with anything, yet lol. Love running custom roms.
yes it is, Mine is on Tmobile( white) unlocked and it is rooted and i'm using it on ATT(sim card from work) i get full speed LTE and one of samsung best yet. other variants are not that great
T-Mobile Note 4 still shows as Blackberry
TheUndertaker21 said:
yes it is, Mine is on Tmobile( white) unlocked and it is rooted and i'm using it on ATT(sim card from work) i get full speed LTE and one of samsung best yet. other variants are not that great
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I went to change my data plan today, finally giving up Unlimited because it was $50 cheaper to go Mobile Share route. In the process I noticed my new TM Note 4 showed up as a Blackberry 7100 and during the online plan change it wouldn't let me do it saying something about an incompatible phone. I reloaded the Sim back in my Note 2, called CS, had then change the plan and of course it now shows a "Smartphone" for my Note 2.
So, I suppose as soon as I change me SIM back to the Note 4 it'll send them the IMEI and change the phone designation back to Blackberry, thusly kicking me off LTE.
Can other enlighten me as what steps to take when/if that happens? Since it's a Note 2, not Note 4, I can't take the approach quite the same as the OP.
What to do? Anyone?
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I went to change my data plan today, finally giving up Unlimited because it was $50 cheaper to go Mobile Share route. In the process I noticed my new TM Note 4 showed up as a Blackberry 7100 and during the online plan change it wouldn't let me do it saying something about an incompatible phone. I reloaded the Sim back in my Note 2, called CS, had then change the plan and of course it now shows a "Smartphone" for my Note 2.
So, I suppose as soon as I change me SIM back to the Note 4 it'll send them the IMEI and change the phone designation back to Blackberry, thusly kicking me off LTE.
Can other enlighten me as what steps to take when/if that happens? Since it's a Note 2, not Note 4, I can't take the approach quite the same as the OP.
What to do? Anyone?
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Mine shows as a blackberry also, but after they activated tri-band on my account for my line, all is good with full service.
AT&T used to have two places to store imei. One is dynamic and shows device that is currently on their network and the other is somewhere permanently in the database and is imei used to register account. Second (permanent) one determines whether you get LTE. It was like that year ago when I parted with post paid plans. May be they changed it since. So you must make them replace the permanent db imei to get LTE. Best way to do it is to call them with valid AT&T LTE capable device imei and tell them that it's what you use now.
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My AT&T account shows a flip phone for my TMO Note 4! LOL! Everything is fine and working though so I dont care.
I run my T-Mobile Note 4 on "Cricket Wireless" which uses AT&T towers w/ a reduced cost (based on your needs of course).. Data, ect...
Very pleased & things work 100%!
I even figured out how to 'edit' build.prop per the "Root & Recovery" thread to give me official "cricket" initial confirmation readout in status upon waking phone along with AT&T tower indicators as opposed to T-Mobile's!
I bet Hotspot will not work on ATT when you use T-mobile phone.
I bet Wifi calling will not work on ATT network too.
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I bet Hotspot will not work on ATT when you use T-mobile phone.
I bet Wifi calling will not work on ATT network too.
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Hotspot works great. Actually It works even better, becuase ATT can't track the usage on a Tmobile phone so even without root or doing anything special the wifi hotspot works right out of the box.
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