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Sprint's changing their pricing in April, so I'm jumping bandwagon to Verizon. Hopefully I wont have to wait long after I cancel with them to get a Bionic.
Anyways, something that's been haunting my curiosity is, will the 4G LTE be a switch on the phone, or will it automatically switch to 4G when it's available?
Thanks in advance,
Overstew
P.S. If you have a source, that'd be nice, too.

It's gonna kick onto 4g where ever you get the coverage. No button pushing or switches.

And you'll probably pay extra for 4G even if you can't get it in your area. Nothing like the crappy cell carriers forcing you to pay for something you can't even use.
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i would love to come over to verizon if sprint buys out tmo and tmo waives the ETF
i dont understand why the thunderbolt is getting so much more notice than the bionic... they're both set to release within a couple months of each other, but tbolt has piss poor specs, 1300mahz battery? really?
what's so bad about motorola that folks rather get a phone that's outdated spec wise?

royalsego said:
i would love to come over to verizon if sprint buys out tmo and tmo waives the ETF
i dont understand why the thunderbolt is getting so much more notice than the bionic... they're both set to release within a couple months of each other, but tbolt has piss poor specs, 1300mahz battery? really?
what's so bad about motorola that folks rather get a phone that's outdated spec wise?
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HTC is know for their generally hackable devices...Motorola has been heading in the opposite direction, and it is very possible that even though the Xoom was unlocked they may decide to lock the Bionic.
I am seriously considering a Xoom...but I am waiting and if someone can root and flash the Bionic then I will possibily get one, but unless this tech material fiasco taking place gets worse I expect something better to be releasing about the same time as the Bionic.
Something yet unannounced maybe who knows, but it would have to outspec the Bionic... > and the way this game is played, there is always something just a little better just around the corner.
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Does anyone here have or know someone who has the Thunderbolt? If so, what does the contract say about Verizon being able to to adjust your monthly rate? Or is it locked in?
Thanks

I traded in my Atrix for the thunderbolt.
I am on a family plan and the cost of the plan is the same as it was for my Dinc.
Unlimited data (soft capped still) and no special fees for 4g.
My other line has an upgrade in april i am saving for the Bionic. It will be locked down like the atrix - but the atrix is by far still the best phone i have ever used - just at&t network is atrocioius!

yes... well it took a little extra effort to unlock the tbolt... just as with the droidX I would guess the bionic will also get unlocked and rooted.. as for the OP I have not seen anything on the 4g modem for the bionic but I owned the tbolt and it does all the switching for you... infact that may have been the problem with the battery life...
I think there is at least two apps that allow you to manually turn on/off the lte modem though.

azwildfire said:
I traded in my Atrix for the thunderbolt.
I am on a family plan and the cost of the plan is the same as it was for my Dinc.
Unlimited data (soft capped still) and no special fees for 4g.
My other line has an upgrade in april i am saving for the Bionic. It will be locked down like the atrix - but the atrix is by far still the best phone i have ever used - just at&t network is atrocioius!
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...but i heard that the "no special fees 4G" is for a limited time...is this true?

royalsego said:
i would love to come over to verizon if sprint buys out tmo and tmo waives the ETF
i dont understand why the thunderbolt is getting so much more notice than the bionic... they're both set to release within a couple months of each other, but tbolt has piss poor specs, 1300mahz battery? really?
what's so bad about motorola that folks rather get a phone that's outdated spec wise?
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i'm sure this has been answered already in this thread but whats so bad about moto is the locked bootloaders. While that may be a non issue for the masses its a huge issue on XDA. let's not forget the masses take their queue from us!
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[Q] Easiest way to carrier unlock

Picked up a Rogers Moto X on the weekend, unlocked the boot loader, now what is the easiest way to carrier unlock as well?
No way i'm ever going to actually use Rogers as a provider.
Thank yah.

Use a third party company who'll sell you an unlock code.

I have unlocked 2x Rogers Moto X via cellunlocker [.net] for use on Bell
It's like $8 and turnaround was 3 hours for the first and like 6 hours for the second (albeit I did both on the weekend)

Correct me if I am wrong but if you buy a phone outright isn't the carrier suppose to unlock the phone for you too?

jonnyg1097 said:
Correct me if I am wrong but if you buy a phone outright isn't the carrier suppose to unlock the phone for you too?
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There's a fee, different depending on which carrier you're talking about.

scorpion667 said:
I have unlocked 2x Rogers Moto X via cellunlocker [.net] for use on Bell
It's like $8 and turnaround was 3 hours for the first and like 6 hours for the second (albeit I did both on the weekend)
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This! I used cellunlocker[.net] over the weekend to unlock my X. Cost $8 and took 15 minutes.

Are Rodgers selling them sim free?
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jonnyg1097 said:
Correct me if I am wrong but if you buy a phone outright isn't the carrier suppose to unlock the phone for you too?
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Nop. For Rogers you have two options:
1. Buy just the phone for $599+tax and unlock it yourself (you lose your warranty as per Rogers). Not all stores will allow you to purchase it like this though. If they let you buy just the phone they only make $50, where as if they get you on a plan they make $200. I bought mine at Shops at Don Mills (Don Mills and Lawrence) in Toronto. They should still have stock.
2. Buy the phone for $549.99 and go on a month to month plan for 90 days (3 months). ONLY after that you can PAY Rogers $50 to unlock it. The first option was cheaper for me as I'm with Bell Mobility. You still lose warranty if Rogers unlocks it, as per Rogers.
3. Sign a contract. I don't do contracts. I like being off the leash nom sayin'?
I know this doesn't coincide with the new CRTC rules but Rogers hires lawyers to find basically everything they can get away with. The CRTC rules technically don't start till December 2nd.
Source: multiple Rogers stores, Rogers phone support
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scorpion667 said:
Nop. For Rogers you have two options:
1. Buy just the phone for $599+tax and unlock it yourself (you lose your warranty as per Rogers). Not all stores will allow you to purchase it like this though. If they let you buy just the phone they only make $50, where as if they get you on a plan they make $200. I bought mine at Shops at Don Mills (Don Mills and Lawrence) in Toronto. They should still have stock.
2. Buy the phone for $549.99 and go on a month to month plan for 90 days (3 months). ONLY after that you can PAY Rogers $50 to unlock it. The first option was cheaper for me as I'm with Bell Mobility
I know this doesn't coincide with the new CRTC rules but Rogers hires lawyers to find basically everything they can get away with. The CRTC rules technically don't start till December 2nd.
Source: multiple Rogers stores, Rogers phone support
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^+1. You know your ****.
Option #1 listed is probably the best option if you're not with Robbers, or do not want to sign a 2-yr contract with Robbers.

hidea said:
^+1. You know your ****.
Option #1 listed is probably the best option if you're not with Robbers, or do not want to sign a 2-yr contract with Robbers.
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LOL Robbers, sounds about right. I wasn't impressed by their plans at all. I was gonna switch to Rogers cause their support and LTE speeds are slightly better, but their plans just flat out SUCK right now. I'm paying $74 after tax on Bell for a fat plan (6GB data, unlimited this and that, caller ID etc) and an equivalent plan on Rogers would cost me $105 + tax
I was like naw I'm good just sell me the phone lol
I'm hoping Verizon is determined to dominate Rogers by offering much better deals. Trust me, the coming competition between Verizon and Canadian carriers is great news for the consumer. Everyone's gonna price cut each other and we will laugh all the way to the bank =P

scorpion667 said:
LOL Robbers, sounds about right. I wasn't impressed by their plans at all. I was gonna switch to Rogers cause their support and LTE speeds are slightly better, but their plans just flat out SUCK right now. I'm paying $74 after tax on Bell for a fat plan (6GB data, unlimited this and that, caller ID etc) and an equivalent plan on Rogers would cost me $105 + tax
I was like naw I'm good just sell me the phone lol
I'm hoping Verizon is determined to dominate Rogers by offering much better deals. Trust me, the coming competition between Verizon and Canadian carriers is great news for the consumer. Everyone's gonna price cut each other and we will laugh all the way to the bank =P
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That'd be great in theory. But corporations exist to make money. While I do sincerely hope Verizon will bring competition; I also doubt they'll shake down the market. Why make less if you can rob people in broad day light?

hidea said:
That'd be great in theory. But corporations exist to make money. While I do sincerely hope Verizon will bring competition; I also doubt they'll shake down the market. Why make less if you can rob people in broad day light?
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Because with Verizon being a new player, they will have to undercut Rogers(Fido) and Bell(Virgin) to make sales. They have to offer a better value proposition to get people who are loyal to existing Canadian Carriers to switch over.
I know I wouldn't switch my carrier unless I got a better deal or better speeds/service.
But you could be right because Verizon can outbid all Canadian Carriers combined in the upcoming frequency band auction so they could just have same prices as everyone else and just brag about having the fastest speeds. Kind of like what Rogers is doing right now. Just to give you a number, Verizon has 100 million customers, Rogers has 10 million. They have deep pockets mang.

scorpion667 said:
LOL Robbers, sounds about right. I wasn't impressed by their plans at all. I was gonna switch to Rogers cause their support and LTE speeds are slightly better, but their plans just flat out SUCK right now. I'm paying $74 after tax on Bell for a fat plan (6GB data, unlimited this and that, caller ID etc) and an equivalent plan on Rogers would cost me $105 + tax
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That's because they've moved to 2-year plans and jacked up the monthly cost to ensure they make up the subsidy within the contract term. Take a look at Bell's current plans and you'll see something similar. In comparsion, your current plan is probably based on a 3-year contract.
You can thank the CRTC for how this turned out.

+1 on cellunlocker[.net]
Cost $8 and turnaround was all of about 15 minutes...

scorpion667 said:
Nop. For Rogers you have two options:
1. Buy just the phone for $599+tax and unlock it yourself (you lose your warranty as per Rogers). Not all stores will allow you to purchase it like this though. If they let you buy just the phone they only make $50, where as if they get you on a plan they make $200. I bought mine at Shops at Don Mills (Don Mills and Lawrence) in Toronto. They should still have stock.
2. Buy the phone for $549.99 and go on a month to month plan for 90 days (3 months). ONLY after that you can PAY Rogers $50 to unlock it. The first option was cheaper for me as I'm with Bell Mobility. You still lose warranty if Rogers unlocks it, as per Rogers.
3. Sign a contract. I don't do contracts. I like being off the leash nom sayin'?
I know this doesn't coincide with the new CRTC rules but Rogers hires lawyers to find basically everything they can get away with. The CRTC rules technically don't start till December 2nd.
Source: multiple Rogers stores, Rogers phone support
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Ah I see. I was thinking about Option 2 but only knew bits of the pieces. Thanks for the clarification.

+1 to cellularunlock.net
Ordered an unlock code for the Moto X around 6:39pm EST and received an email with the unlock code 2 hours after.
Oh and Hello everyone! First post here in XDA after years of lurking
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Another +1 for CellUnlocker. They came through for me overnight. They're the cheapest I've seen of any other unlock service (Unlockcode247, UnlockUnit).

Rogers unlock
Rogers says if you buy outright they will unlock for free as per CRTC rules starting in Dec. Rogers say they will honor the rules now on outright phone purchases. That being said the 8 bucks I paid to cellunlocker.net was well worth it, got the code in less then an hour and didn't have to deal with anyone from Rogers. The Moto x will work on fido out of the box as thats my carrier I just unlocked mine to use in the USA.

scorpion667 said:
I'm hoping Verizon is determined to dominate Rogers by offering much better deals. Trust me, the coming competition between Verizon and Canadian carriers is great news for the consumer. Everyone's gonna price cut each other and we will laugh all the way to the bank =P
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I think I read VZW pulled out for the time being of trying to buy a Canadian carrier.

Does anyone know of a reliable place to unlock the AT&T version?

Nexus 5 on Verizon [POLL]

What do you think about the Nexus 5 coming to Verizon
Serious thread
Will update with some sources of speculation as they roll in
Funny read on Nexus 5 rumors on droid-life:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/08/so-many-ridiculous-nexus-5-rumors-today/
According to CNET it will have Verizon support:
http://reviews.cnet.com/google-nexus-5/
Verizon Forums with some thoughts on the Nexus 5:
https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/1004704

It won't come to the useless CDMA carrier. They are happy with their ugly verizon logo branded phones.

VZW is a skank. You should ditch that skank.

wideasleep1 said:
VZW is a skank. You should ditch that skank.
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Swerve, I don't have Verizon....

I want it to happen really bad but I know it probably won't. Verizon will never let Google have the software control they need because CDMA.
I really wish I didn't have unlimited data. Otherwise I'd pick a new carrier.
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If it comes to Verizon their going to screw it up somehow, someway!!:crying:

My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.

Johmama said:
My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.
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Naw..you mean JUST like they're doing on the Nexus 7 LTE tablet!?!

I would love to stay with Verizon. They are great at my job plus I get a work discount and I have unlimited data...With that said after the way they have handled recent big phones (like the HTC One) if they don't get the Nexus 5 (which they probably won't) I am out of here.

Yup I dont see it happening at all

Johmama said:
My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.
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Well, a device without Verizon Navigator is not much of a device at all. They are just looking out for their customers and want to give them the best experience that they can.
/sarcasm

I REALLY want it to come to verizon.. The only reason why I'm still with vzw is because its either them, Alltel, or Southern Linc. And as ****ty as it is, vzw is the best of those :/
My gnex is getting old and tired and I would relaly like to replace it with the N5. But time will tell. I'm not very optimistic though...

I know this will be a bit selfish, but I hope it won't come to Verizon. They messed everything up, will remove Google Wallet, add their own bloatwares and giant ugly logos, not to mention 6months late updates, it will give a bad reputation to the Nexus brand.
However what I wouldn't mind is if Google work with Verizon and Sprint to make a CDMA device but with pure and unadulterated Android without the firmware being messed with, although Verizon would not agree to that, they need to put in CarrierIQ and what not.

eksasol said:
I know this will be a bit selfish, but I hope it won't come to Verizon. They messed everything up, will remove Google Wallet, add their own bloatwares and giant ugly logos, not to mention 6months late updates, it will give a bad reputation to the Nexus brand.
However what I wouldn't mind is if Google work with Verizon and Sprint to make a CDMA device but with pure and unadulterated Android without the firmware being messed with, although Verizon would not agree to that, they need to put in CarrierIQ and what not.
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According to leaks....nexus 5 is already compatible with CDMA....at least from what ive read....the issue is that verizon wont let you activate/use it...again from what ive read
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I think that it's compatible with CDMA, just not Verizon's CDMA. Something about it skips over the 800 band in CDMA. If I recall correctly anyways.

Wonder why CNET assume it's coming to Verizon?
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CBMC said:
Wonder why CNET assume it's coming to Verizon?
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I wonder why anyone still read or trust CNET.

eksasol said:
I wonder why anyone still read or trust CNET.
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Yeah. The author probably saw cdma bands in the fcc filing and assumed that meant Verizon(not realizing that they were not Verizon bands) . I really doubt that this writer has some inside information about the phone coming to Verizon.
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Screw Verizon and its users. Yes, Verizon has a great network, but NO it's not worth getting raped by them and having to use their locked down hacked phones and over priced plans.
Verizon and AT&T are the big brothers of the cell industry, their mentality of "You will take what we give you and like it." is killing it for consumers. Yeah T-Mobile and Sprint has worse networks, but the more people that move to them will show the giants they can't operate like that.

I would drop Verizon in a heartbeat if I could. Paying for a single line with 1gb of data and it's right at 100 bucks. And that's with my 17% discount through work! But, I can't drop Verizon... It's either them or alltel for my area...

[Q] Why is there no real development for the Verizon Turbo?

I am coming from my last few phones being Samsung models , the Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 and 3, and the S4. The last Motorola phone I had was a Droid Razr. I left Moto because the hardware specks started to decline, no sd-slot, no removable battery, less desirable construction. I came back due to Samsung's questionable antenna and radio package. I never really had good strong signal with Samsung though. So, Motorola finally comes out with a beast of a phone in the specs catagory, although still no sd or battery pull but my signal is amazing, reception just about everywhere. So I'm confused why is there no development for the US Verizon Turbo? To me it seems like a no brainer.

That one is easy to answer... Until a vulnerability is found and exploited and root is achieved there is no platform to develop on. That doesn't mean that there isn't anyone working on it, just that not much is going to happen until root is achieved.

Then how do we get some of the heavy hitting android minds on this thing? It really is the best specimen out there currently.

PerCompLLC said:
That one is easy to answer... Until a vulnerability is found and exploited and root is achieved there is no platform to develop on. That doesn't mean that there isn't anyone working on it, just that not much is going to happen until root is achieved.
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I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a newbie here, but I never understood the software difference between Droid Turbo and Moto Maxx that makes the last rootable and the first not. Is it just the bootloader?

You can unlock the Moto Maxx bootloader. You cannot unlock the Turbo's. Plain and simple.

DarkLey said:
I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a newbie here, but I never understood the software difference between Droid Turbo and Moto Maxx that makes the last rootable and the first not. Is it just the bootloader?
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Two words. Unlockable bootloader.

DarkLey said:
I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a newbie here, but I never understood the software difference between Droid Turbo and Moto Maxx that makes the last rootable and the first not. Is it just the bootloader?
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All bootloaders can be unlocked by the manufacturer. But in the case of the Verizon variant (Droid Turbo) Verizon has asked/told Motorola to keep the bootloader locked. Ergo the need for a vulnerability - and someone who knows how to exploit it.

Everything I've been reading indicates that root for the Turbo is a long shot, since the folks that do that stuff really don't want to spend the efforts on a phone that's strictly on only one carryier, Verizon in this case.

this_is_nascar said:
Everything I've been reading indicates that root for the Turbo is a long shot, since the folks that do that stuff really don't want to spend the efforts on a phone that's strictly on only one carryier, Verizon in this case.
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Don't blame it on that. The Thunderbolt was exclusive and had root before it even was officially released.
It more boils down to that those who can do it have day jobs and probably don't have the phone nor care to have it.

adrynalyne said:
Don't blame it on that. The Thunderbolt was exclusive and had root before it even was officially released.
It more boils down to that those who can do it have day jobs and probably don't have the phone nor care to have it.
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Like I said, I really don't know. I'm just repeating what I've said, however I can understand your point as well.

Are there any recognized developers that even have the phone? I know its a bad idea to purchase devices and "loan" them to developers, but I feel like we should donate a few. Something like the bounty for root, but the money funds devices ahead of time. Find a few devs that would be interested and give them the device. It would have to be no strings attached though, if the Dev had no success people couldn't demand their money back. You would know ahead of time that you were donating for the chance at root, not a guarantee. Probably would just end up being an ordeal, but we really need capable devs with the device to take a look. I feel like at this point were just waiting for another moto device to get rooted that happens to work for us.

No root, no recovery, but moto maxx its same device basic "quark" have root and recovery too, but no roms or kernel, the real problem is device dont sell in all countrys, so no devs until now.

georgiadog3 said:
I am coming from my last few phones being Samsung models , the Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 and 3, and the S4. The last Motorola phone I had was a Droid Razr. I left Moto because the hardware specks started to decline, no sd-slot, no removable battery, less desirable construction. I came back due to Samsung's questionable antenna and radio package. I never really had good strong signal with Samsung though. So, Motorola finally comes out with a beast of a phone in the specs catagory, although still no sd or battery pull but my signal is amazing, reception just about everywhere. So I'm confused why is there no development for the US Verizon Turbo? To me it seems like a no brainer.
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I know this thread isnt about sd card slot, but why not go and use a otg usb sd mount stick? Its like having a sd card.

I am guessing that since Verizon is furnishing mobile and internet to some major corporations, the corporate environment wants to have phones secure. Hence that is why they want the bootloader locked as to appeal to the major companies and sell more phones. That was the reason it was when I worked for a major company.

web_ninja said:
I am guessing that since Verizon is furnishing mobile and internet to some major corporations, the corporate environment wants to have phones secure. Hence that is why they want the bootloader locked as to appeal to the major companies and sell more phones. That was the reason it was when I worked for a major company.
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That is not the reason. All carriers have deals like that and not all of them are locking bootloaders.
Verizon is doing it for warranty, support, and insurance reasons.

adrynalyne said:
That is not the reason. All carriers have deals like that and not all of them are locking bootloaders.
Verizon is doing it for warranty, support, and insurance reasons.
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I am making the switch to tmobile at the end of the day today because verizon straight out is trying to over charge for stuff on the bill that shouldnt be there. No one on my account has ever used the visual voicemail paid version nor gone over usage and my fiancees line is said to be 600 dollars or more a month. Not happening. I called tmobile and talked to them for a bit, and explained to her about the bill she gave me the best deal plus with unlimited data for 70 a month. Bringing over my nexus 6. After that was all done I just randomly asked questions about locked bootloaders and root, and the lady spoken clear as day is we are not verizon or att. We support the development community (root and unlocked bootloaders), and that all devices are unlockable in that sense. Tmobile is a go to company for me. Yes some of the service is spotty but still its well worth it for having to deal with verizon since 1998. She even brought up that she is currently using an s5 with cyanogenmod. They actually allow their employees to do that stuff to their work phones as long as they know how to return to stock. Verizon you have been ok in the past but i am out.
Have a good day guys. Happy flashing

the_rooter said:
I am making the switch to tmobile at the end of the day today because verizon straight out is trying to over charge for stuff on the bill that shouldnt be there. No one on my account has ever used the visual voicemail paid version nor gone over usage and my fiancees line is said to be 600 dollars or more a month. Not happening. I called tmobile and talked to them for a bit, and explained to her about the bill she gave me the best deal plus with unlimited data for 70 a month. Bringing over my nexus 6. After that was all done I just randomly asked questions about locked bootloaders and root, and the lady spoken clear as day is we are not verizon or att. We support the development community (root and unlocked bootloaders), and that all devices are unlockable in that sense. Tmobile is a go to company for me. Yes some of the service is spotty but still its well worth it for having to deal with verizon since 1998. She even brought up that she is currently using an s5 with cyanogenmod. They actually allow their employees to do that stuff to their work phones as long as they know how to return to stock. Verizon you have been ok in the past but i am out.
Have a good day guys. Happy flashing
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I tried T-Mobile a couple of months ago for exactly the reasons you described. I wanted to stay with them so badly but I just couldn't deal the spotty coverage. Ended up back with Verizon. Hopefully you have better luck!

the_rooter said:
I am making the switch to tmobile at the end of the day today because verizon straight out is trying to over charge for stuff on the bill that shouldnt be there. No one on my account has ever used the visual voicemail paid version nor gone over usage and my fiancees line is said to be 600 dollars or more a month. Not happening. I called tmobile and talked to them for a bit, and explained to her about the bill she gave me the best deal plus with unlimited data for 70 a month. Bringing over my nexus 6. After that was all done I just randomly asked questions about locked bootloaders and root, and the lady spoken clear as day is we are not verizon or att. We support the development community (root and unlocked bootloaders), and that all devices are unlockable in that sense. Tmobile is a go to company for me. Yes some of the service is spotty but still its well worth it for having to deal with verizon since 1998. She even brought up that she is currently using an s5 with cyanogenmod. They actually allow their employees to do that stuff to their work phones as long as they know how to return to stock. Verizon you have been ok in the past but i am out.
Have a good day guys. Happy flashing
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As far as T-Mobile is concerned I hope you live in a better coverage area than I. Typically if you only stick to cities then your good but if your on the out skirts or in rural areas your screwed on signal. Even though the coverage map said to be strong network coverage where I lived it just wasn't so.
I happened to purchase this phone expecting the development to be near non existent. I was wanting to see if I could use a phone that was non-rooted and bootloader locked for a period of time as I have never done this before in all the years I have used smart phones.
good luck with T-Mobile though.. love what they are doing just hated the service coverage areas.....

bkeaver said:
As far as T-Mobile is concerned I hope you live in a better coverage area than I. Typically if you only stick to cities then your good but if your on the out skirts or in rural areas your screwed on signal. Even though the coverage map said to be strong network coverage where I lived it just wasn't so.
I happened to purchase this phone expecting the development to be near non existent. I was wanting to see if I could use a phone that was non-rooted and bootloader locked for a period of time as I have never done this before in all the years I have used smart phones.
good luck with T-Mobile though.. love what they are doing just hated the service coverage areas.....
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Don't switch trust me, I just switched from managing T-maybe to managing Verizon I switched all my lines and have never been happier with the choice. T-Mobile even in a metro area constantly drops calls.

kwyrt said:
I tried T-Mobile a couple of months ago for exactly the reasons you described. I wanted to stay with them so badly but I just couldn't deal the spotty coverage. Ended up back with Verizon. Hopefully you have better luck!
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I switched as well a few months ago and the coverage was so spotty I had to switch back. Good luck though.

[Q] Moving to from Sweden to Santa Monica, CA, what carrier?

Hi!
First off, I didn't know where this belongs, so I'm sorry in advance if this is the wrong part of the forum.
My wife and I are moving to Santa Monica in August, and one of my biggest struggles right now is figuring out what American carrier to go with (yep, this is MY issue to handle, since I'm the phonegeek in the family). I'll start off with telling you what we're used to here in Sweden, and I hope you can help us pick a carrier and maybe even a plan that will fit our usage after the big move.
We always buy our phones unlocked from electronics stores, ALWAYS. I'm currently using the OnePlus One which should be working fine in the U.S., but I am planning on getting an LG G4 in a few months. Wifey's got an iPhone 5S (European version, guessing she'll have to replace it in order to use 4G/LTE IB the U.S?) I suppose it depends on what carrier we choose, but if signing up for a plan and getting the phone along with it is a better option than cashing it we're of course willing to do so (I have absolutely no idea how this stuff works in America, as you might've understood by now...).
We're currently using Telenor, on a shared family plan. The cost for this is roughly $85 a month. It includes a shared 24GB of data, unlimited calls and unlimited texts. To be honest, this is way beyond what we ever use, so cutting the data amount in half should be no problem at all. We don't text or call that much either, but it's nice to have the ability to do so if needed.
From what I understand, Verizon locks their phones down tight. Locked bootloaders, SIM locked and whatnot. If this really is the case Verizon really isn't a viable option considering the fact that I'm an avid flasher of roms. My wife doesn't really care much about that stuff though, she's all iPhone all the way.
Any advice, thought or opinion is welcome and highly appreciated!

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Tmobile. I hate verizon for the same reasons. But, I've heard people in that part of Cali say it's got good service.
But, if no verizon. Then tmobile
And, yes verizon does that.

Karakoram2 said:
Tmobile. I hate verizon for the same reasons. But, I've heard people in that part of Cali say it's got good service.
But, if no verizon. Then tmobile
And, yes verizon does that.
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Thanks for the reply! I've read good stuff about T-Mobile so I think that's what I'll go with. Apparently I'll get 4G with a European LG G4 with them aswell so that suits me great.