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Hi everyone,
So I am thinking of getting an Xperia phone, I am a huge Android fan, never used a Sony phone before and currently having a Galaxy S4. I am attracted to Xperia's configuration and wanting to giving it a try. However, I am not sure which one should I pick. Here are couples of questions I am having in mind. Maybe you all can help me decide. Thanks a bunch!!!!
1. Between Z1 and Z1s, which one I am better off with? I know there aren't much differences between them but if I was to go with Z1, will I get LTE 4G network with Tmobile since it is an unlocked phone? I really like the varieties of color choices and I love the purple version.
2. Between Z1 and Z2, since Z2 is coming out soon, should I just wait for it? However, I am hearing rumors that the Z2 won't be launching in the US for a while. Any insider scoops?
Thanks for all of your advice*
Definitely Z2.!
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kcannonball said:
Definitely Z2.!
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Just not sure if Z2 will be launching in US and when, any thoughts?
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Just not sure if Z2 will be launching in US and when, any thoughts?
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if you get a z1, it can't be from the sony store if you are in the us. you need to get the 6903 6906 or 6943 to get t-mobile lte.
the z1s from tmobile also has no root and is more than likely not an unlockable bootloader..
2. IMHO the only think the z2 has is that 120fps video recording. its pretty much a tweaked z1. would not spend the money on it as it will probably be more than $600 at launch.
wait for the z2 release which is supposed to be soon and it should drop the price of the z1
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if you get a z1, it can't be from the sony store if you are in the us. you need to get the 6903 6906 or 6943 to get t-mobile lte.
the z1s from tmobile also has no root and is more than likely not an unlockable bootloader..
2. IMHO the only think the z2 has is that 120fps video recording. its pretty much a tweaked z1. would not spend the money on it as it will probably be more than $600 at launch.
wait for the z2 release which is supposed to be soon and it should drop the price of the z1
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The z2 also has better screen, dual front facing stereo speakers and 3gb of ram. And a newer chipset s801 a faster version of s800.If I have money to spend , I'd get the z2. If I'm on tight budget or saving money, i'd get the z1 or maybe lg g2 haha..
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My personnel opinion... It depends on your requirement vs. budget.
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joejoe23 said:
The z2 also has better screen, dual front facing stereo speakers and 3gb of ram. And a newer chipset s801 a faster version of s800.If I have money to spend , I'd get the z2. If I'm on tight budget or saving money, i'd get the z1 or maybe lg g2 haha..
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i don't like front speakers since i keep the phone screen against leg, and i know alot of people put their phone face down. so that's mostly preference (phone speakers suck anyways and i rather use headphones) botton or side speakers are harder to have muffled in pockets, etc than front speakers.
kickstand case = front speakers
naked phone = bottom or front (since you are holding it)
and the viewing angles aren't really an issue when using a phone, if you really need such high viewing angles get a phone with an ips display (at those angles either screen looks bad trying to use it, nexus 4,5 and xperia z. no idea how people complain about it)
ram is nice, i'm fine with 2gb. slightly faster s800. doubt the ram and slight performance increase will be worth the price difference.
the only thing that'll really be different between the two is no 120fps on the z1 (for now)
i doubt you'll notice the cpu in games or everyday use, file transfers might be quicker. if you watch videos on your phone with multiple people you might get a better experience, if you are on stock based fw it hopefully won't hog all the ram for no reason (tmo z, sometimes get a launcher redraw, never did on my nex 4. phones are pretty much the same except sony fw hogs ram with nothing running so those 3gb are probably not all that great when you can skip the bloated sony base on the z1 and the z2 might be SOL for awhile and atleast the z to z1 jump was a big difference soc wise).
the z and z1 only do 30fps video recording which isn't as nice as 60 or 120fps for fast moving things (cars, rc things, etc).
pretty much the only 2 (maybe 3) things that will make a big-ish difference in using day to day depending if you actually do any of this with your phone very often are (not in order of easiest to notice)
the front facing speakers
120/60fps video
better viewing angles
oh, that higher cost too
i'd actually record things with my phone if it did 60/120fps.
currently i don't recommend those who've asked if they should get a z1s ($600 and tmobile, new z1 is 510 online and the only z1s's being bought new on ebay are selling for less than a used z1. besides that it feels cheap because plastic bezel (cheap abs glossy plastic. not a nice fiber reinforced).
z2 comes out and the z1 should hopefully go for 450 new or less (which would make the z2 even less of a good idea since it'll have a lower bang for buck than the z1 since it's just a z1+ 2.2-2.3ghz ~100mhz increase in fsb, changed the panel to adress an issue (that is probably due to the ASF which i removed since the glass can still crack, and it's easily scratched plastic) 2-3gb ram.
moved speaker can be a plus
software for the camera may move to the z1
i'm kinda ranting so i'll stop
but just like cars or other electronics newer doesn't guarantee it's better or worth it, only that it is newer and "shinier"
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Wait for Xperia z2, wanted to buy Xperia z1, but when I saw Xperia z2, I told bye bye to Xperia Z1 xD
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Z or Z2.
Z1 isn't worth 150€ more than XZ.
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Hi everyone.
Im about to get a new phone and im confused with
Z1 or HTC m8
Any one had compare this phone together.?
I'v heard that z1 camera is way better than the m8 is that true?
I wud be glad to hear both sides. The advantage and disadvantage of the z1 or HTC m8
Thank you in advance
And yes I had Xperia S for 2 years
sparxx4 said:
Hi everyone.
Im about to get a new phone and im confused with
Z1 or HTC m8
Any one had compare this phone together.?
I'v heard that z1 camera is way better than the m8 is that true?
I wud be glad to hear both sides. The advantage and disadvantage of the z1 or HTC m8
Thank you in advance
And yes I had Xperia S for 2 years
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A good idea to start is to use google and youtube to search. I just did it, took around 6 seconds and found many results.
I did that already
Its not a big deal to see what others thought and if they satisfied with there z1
I think Z1 is better than M8, I dont talk about the hardware, I talk about the experience
I personnaly don't like the HTC UI, it's a lot heavier than sony's and it's weirdly placed (compared to Google Experience or even sony's).
Overall, I think the Sony's UI is intuitive and clean, closer to a stock Google Experience.
I haven't had any first hand experience with M8, just felt it in hand at a service provider's stand, and I quite don't like it. It has a pretty weird length/width ratio, making it look elongated, and not wide enough. Plus, just like fellow posters mentioned it, HTC Sense UI doesn't make much sense to me, so to speak.
As for Z1, it looks just as classy (if not more so), cleaner and lighter UI, blazingly fast, better camera. Not to mention battery life. Have been happily using this Z1 since last November, best smartphone I've had so far.
So, in my opinion, go for Z1.
if you drive and use navigation app alot, stay away from z1, or probably from android. this sh*t can't even run a navigation + music player through bluetooth at the same time for 1 or 2 hours. reinstalling the firmware doesn't help. huge joke for this much hardware specs... as a driver who has to drive at long distances, i really regret getting the z1, or android... even my 3 years old nokia n8 can do a better job, seriously. so much for android's failed multitasking
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if you drive and use navigation app alot, stay away from z1, or probably from android. this sh*t can't even run a navigation + music player through bluetooth at the same time for 1 or 2 hours. reinstalling the firmware doesn't help. huge joke for this much hardware specs... as a driver who has to drive at long distances, i really regret getting the z1, or android... even my 3 years old nokia n8 can do a better job, seriously. so much for android's failed multitasking
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I am sorry you have such problems, which, honestly I have never experienced. And, yes, I have been using navigation on the Z1, and the music player at the same time. Haven't had any problems on JB, and no problems on KK.
Perhaps you should use a GPS dedicated unit for long distances (I have got a Becker Ready 50, for that matter) although I have used the Z1's navigation for the past 6 months, with no problems whatsoever.
So going on like this will not help the OP, since both phones he mentioned run on Android, and both use the same Bluetooth protocols and also same Google Maps navigation system. But since you mentioned that Nokia N8, well, maybe he should reconsider then.
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I am sorry you have such problems, which, honestly I have never experienced. And, yes, I have been using navigation on the Z1, and the music player at the same time. Haven't had any problems on JB, and no problems on KK.
Perhaps you should use a GPS dedicated unit for long distances (I have got a Becker Ready 50, for that matter) although I have used the Z1's navigation for the past 6 months, with no problems whatsoever.
So going on like this will not help the OP, since both phones he mentioned run on Android, and both use the same Bluetooth protocols and also same Google Maps navigation system. But since you mentioned that Nokia N8, well, maybe he should reconsider then.
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actually... the problem was that if i drive about 1 hour, the navigation and walkman player will just shut off by themselves, no force close window, nothing... even if they won't shut off by themselves, sometimes they are stuttered and laggy... same thing will happen even if you only use navigation... there is no problem if you are using the navigation for short distances but it's quite dangerous when that problem actually happens on the road.
don't go get N8, i was just saying. the app quality and quantity are too horrible. if OP really only wants to choose between these two, then definitely Z1 (camera), although it won't be a mistake to choose M8 (build quality). but if OP relies heavily on navigation like me, then go get a Lumia.
For everything other than camera and waterproofing, go for m8.
The screen, speakers, sound, etc are light years ahead.
Also way way more development
sparxx4 said:
Hi everyone.
Im about to get a new phone and im confused with
Z1 or HTC m8
Any one had compare this phone together.?
I'v heard that z1 camera is way better than the m8 is that true?
I wud be glad to hear both sides. The advantage and disadvantage of the z1 or HTC m8
Thank you in advance
And yes I had Xperia S for 2 years
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I have had a chance to compare the Z2 camera (the same module) against the One M8. Here is a detailed comparison:
The question is .... why are you comparing Z1 to one M8 instead of the Xperia Z2?
I have tested all three and the question is what you are looking for in the phone. Camera-wise there is no match to Xperias in terms of quality of pictures.
Xperia Z1:
+ Camera
+ IP Rating
- Not an IPS panel = poor viewing angles
- Shatterproof film on the screen with imprinted Sony logo
- Poor speakers
-/+ Blocky Design
- No IR Sensor or podometer
One M8:
+ Awesome Speakers and audio quality both on headphones as well as speakerphone and speakers
+ Very comfortable rounded design (slightly big bezels)
+ Better screen than that on Z1
+ IR Sensor + Podometer
- The body scratches easily
- No IP rating
Xperia Z2
A lot of things that were wrong with Z1 have been fixed in Z2 :good::
+ IPS Display
+ Front-facing stereo speakers (no match for M8 as they have waterproofing but still better than most competition)
+ Noise-cancelling headset
+ 5.2 inch display with better screen to body ratio (almost same size as Z1)
+/- Blocky Design
- No IR sensor or podometer
Thx for this review,
I didnt go for Z2 cuz it is big on hand.
I didnt try it by my self and I didnt know the z1 had thos problem while Z2 dont ?
Will consider it from now on
Thanks for this information
sparxx4 said:
Hi everyone.
Im about to get a new phone and im confused with
Z1 or HTC m8
Any one had compare this phone together.?
I'v heard that z1 camera is way better than the m8 is that true?
I wud be glad to hear both sides. The advantage and disadvantage of the z1 or HTC m8
Thank you in advance
And yes I had Xperia S for 2 years
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That's right M8 pics are better and has more quality than Z1, but Z1 hardware is better
Sony UI is not so heavy to use most spaces of the Ram
Z1 is heavier and can take more damages, even it's water resistance and you can safely take it in water and take pics
Hello
Would i be able to freely take pictures underwater with this cellphone or is there a certain limit of times it can dive underwater?
is it stil worth buying it in 2014 for 375 bucks?
Is it better than the g2?
I used my phone to take picture this summer every day for about half hour a day. I even recorded few videos per day.
My friend uploaded one to youtube so i will share you here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InN29dnyFRg
P.s. Not a single problem on my unit after "abusing" waterproofnes.
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Hello
Would i be able to freely take pictures underwater with this cellphone or is there a certain limit of times it can dive underwater?
is it stil worth buying it in 2014 for 375 bucks?
Is it better than the g2?
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Z1 is old model now and I prefer you to get the Z2 instead or the latest Z3 if you have enough budget
It is able to take photos or videos underwater by using the volume up/down or camera button
You can use it as many times as you want
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Z1 is old model now and I prefer you to get the Z2 instead or the latest Z3 if you have enough budget
It is able to take photos or videos underwater by using the volume up/down or camera button
You can use it as many times as you want
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Hm thanks, i'd get the z2 but the price jumps from 370 bucks to 470 bucks. i don't see the need since the only upgrade i notice is the snapdragon 801 wich isn't that much of a upgrade.
pin70 said:
Hm thanks, i'd get the z2 but the price jumps from 370 bucks to 470 bucks. i don't see the need since the only upgrade i notice is the snapdragon 801 wich isn't that much of a upgrade.
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Not only that,the speaker was upgraded to dual front stereo speakers and also a 3GB of ram with IPS display.Btw,that is your choice on getting the Z1...
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Not only that,the speaker was upgraded to dual front stereo speakers and also a 3GB of ram with IPS display.Btw,that is your choice on getting the Z1...
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Price is out of my range :/
btw, does this phone scratches easily? does it have that scratch film that if you remove removes the logo with it?
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I got another question aswell, if you say the z1 isn't worth it, would u say it'd be better to get a LG G2?
pin70 said:
Price is out of my range :/
btw, does this phone scratches easily? does it have that scratch film that if you remove removes the logo with it?
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I got another question aswell, if you say the z1 isn't worth it, would u say it'd be better to get a LG G2?
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Yes the Z1 have the scratch film that removes the Sony logo if you remove it.I'm not sure about it as I use the Z only.Simply buy a case and cover so that it won't be scratched.
Comparing to the LG G2,it has 5.2" IPS display while Z1 is 5.0" TFT display.Other than that,all specs are exactly same.Of course,Z1 has the dust and waterproof IP rating...
So it depends on which brand you are looking for and try to get a hands on on both devices.
Camera rocks
Stamina mode rocks
Under water they say 30 minutes at 1m
Quite simple and sleek ROM
Android 5.0 soon
Big factors
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Camera rocks
Stamina mode rocks
Under water they say 30 minutes at 1m
Quite simple and sleek ROM
Android 5.0 soon
Big factors
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I've been seing A LOT of complaints in the sony mobile forums, from overheating to touchscreen not working.
has any of you guys experienced any of this?
i'm getting scared by all these complaints and might get a g2.
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I've been seing A LOT of complaints in the sony mobile forums, from overheating to touchscreen not working.
has any of you guys experienced any of this?
i'm getting scared by all these complaints and might get a g2.
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I have none of this.
In my opinion, i dont have a single problem with my phone.
electrash said:
I have none of this.
In my opinion, i dont have a single problem with my phone.
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Thanks. could anyone else post if you had or never had any problem with this smartphone?
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Thanks. could anyone else post if you had or never had any problem with this smartphone?
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I have absoluty no issue at all..
cool cool. thanks c:
It is absolutely worth buying! Great original rom(my first phone without a custom rom), great dev options(damn, I just love Flashtool!), waterproof, great camera(manual or with Xposed), physical camera button, great specs and I also love the design! I always root my phones(first thing I do after a proper charge) and had ghosttouches! Was easy to fix, just changed the clearpad settings(root is needed because clearpad is a system file)! Only the speaker disappoints me!
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It is absolutely worth buying! Great original rom(my first phone without a custom rom), great dev options(damn, I just love Flashtool!), waterproof, great camera(manual or with Xposed), physical camera button, great specs and I also love the design! I always root my phones(first thing I do after a proper charge) and had ghosttouches! Was easy to fix, just changed the clearpad settings(root is needed because clearpad is a system file)! Only the speaker disappoints me!
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It is in my hands finally.
I've never seen such an awesome smartphone ever, and also i don't know if it is because i got the "newest" version, but the viewing angles are just great, i can actually see everything looking at an angle of about 140 degrees.
the phone feels so good, but the speaker is in a bad place, you cover it up while gaming, it heats up quite a lot when gaming but that was to be expected.
i still haven't risked placing it underwater thou, a lot of complaints of malfunction after doing that.
I have been offered a good deal on a Z3+ here in the UK.
I had the Z3 for a while, and I liked it quite a bit. the Z3+ looks good but I'm worried about the heat issue. I'm willing to wait till they fix it but my question is more of a curiosity.
Oneplus are using the 810, and they have said that they will under clock the CPU in order to keep temperatures low. Will Sony also do this, or can they stop the issue through tweaks?
I'm just looking for a discussion that will settle my mind and the mind of other Sony fans.
Cheers
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I have been offered a good deal on a Z3+ here in the UK.
I had the Z3 for a while, and I liked it quite a bit. the Z3+ looks good but I'm worried about the heat issue. I'm willing to wait till they fix it but my question is more of a curiosity.
Oneplus are using the 810, and they have said that they will under clock the CPU in order to keep temperatures low. Will Sony also do this, or can they stop the issue through tweaks?
I'm just looking for a discussion that will settle my mind and the mind of other Sony fans.
Cheers
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I have the Z3+ for more then a week now and I havent experienced any overheating yet.
How good is your battery and is the pre-installed screen protector really just a regular screen protector that can be removed easily with the anti oil/fingerprint coating actually on the screen under the protector.?
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I have the Z3+ for more then a week now and I havent experienced any overheating yet.
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What type of things do you do on your phone? Gaming or web browsing for long periods of time?
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What type of things do you do on your phone? Gaming or web browsing for long periods of time?
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Yes both. I use my phone all day for all kinds of stuff.
The device CAN get warm when recording in 4K for long time or when playing large games but it doesnt get "hot". (I have this same "problem" with my Xperia Z so I am not that worried)
xDope said:
Yes both. I use my phone all day for all kinds of stuff.
The device CAN get warm when recording in 4K for long time or when playing large games but it doesnt get "hot". (I have this same "problem" with my Xperia Z so I am not that worried)
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I am on first name basis with the store manager so should be able to test drive the phone for a few days. Thanks for your help hopefully I wont experience any issues.
Terrible first 2 days camera overheats even with new update . 24 as of July 2nd. Z3 was doing relative aa better job. Feeling stupid buying this so early. Don't want a Samsung just for ant+. Design is great.
Feeling Is hardware..... Issue
After using the camera for a few mins, I got a warning saying "camera app will close if phone overheats" or something along those lines. And it did after a minute.
I did the update as soon as I got it so I never tried the camera app with the software version that originally came with the phone . Just got the phone last night .
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After using the camera for a few mins, I got a warning saying "camera app will close if phone overheats" or something along those lines. And it did after a minute.
I did the update as soon as I got it so I never tried the camera app with the software version that originally came with the phone . Just got the phone last night .
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What is the update you got?
I have the .27 update latest and it lags heat issue is a bit better does get warm but remember guys glass back will absorb the heat more
The only issue I have had is a reset crash the ui had stopped
I have all phones out there recently and this handset suits me for my needs with running and sport due to the water resistance
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This device is catching my eyes. I hope the reviews will be good !
It's time for my good old Z5 to retire...
Who is thinking to buy it and why ??
I am thinking about buying it if supports VoLTE on T-Mobile and the new Band 71.
I travel a lot for work and need all the coverage I can get.
It will be the XZ2 or the XZ2 Premium which is supposed to be announced in May.
It depends on the price.if around 600$ I might buy it day one. anything more than 700 I will skip it and go for XZ1.
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It depends on the price.if around 600$ I might buy it day one. anything more than 700 I will skip it and go for XZ1.
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AFAIK, its price will be 799€ at its release.
But yes, sooner or later, it will be below 700€ ^^
I intend to buy both XZ2 and the Compact, for my wife and I (respectively)!
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I intend to buy both XZ2 and the Compact, for my wife and I (respectively)!
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Your wife is somewhat more a spender than you
Thanks, great news !!
@nreuge Hey man,
Good to see you still up and around.
My contract is up for renewal and I was really looking forward to get my hands on a new Sony device.
I've been with Sony since Xperia Z1 and I have loved their phones very much ever since.
But the XZ2 is just to thick for me.
I don't know what the hell they were thinking when they decided that.
Plus fingerprint on the back... Is just really inconvenient for me.
Having it on the side power button has always been one of the most important features that kept me buying Sony phones again.
I hope Sony will step up soon, but for now I'm very sad and disappointed to say im skipping them this time and I'm looking at other phones to upgrade my Xperia XZ.
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AFAIK, its price will be 799€ at its release.
But yes, sooner or later, it will be below 700€ ^^
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That's for Europe buddy. Normally USA prices are lower.
Btw great to know that master serajr will get it too.
koekoek91 said:
@nreuge Hey man,
Good to see you still up and around.
My contract is up for renewal and I was really looking forward to get my hands on a new Sony device.
I've been with Sony since Xperia Z1 and I have loved their phones very much ever since.
But the XZ2 is just to thick for me.
I don't know what the hell they were thinking when they decided that.
Plus fingerprint on the back... Is just really inconvenient for me.
Having it on the side power button has always been one of the most important features that kept me buying Sony phones again.
I hope Sony will step up soon, but for now I'm very sad and disappointed to say im skipping them this time and I'm looking at other phones to upgrade my Xperia XZ.
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It is thick only at the very center...
You might change your mind when you can see it, touch it.
But I understand, every design cannot satisfy every people...
About the fingerprint sensor, I don't care I never use it.
Cheers !
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It is thick only at the very center...
You might change your mind when you can see it, touch it.
But I understand, every design cannot satisfy every people...
About the fingerprint sensor, I don't care I never use it.
Cheers !
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I will go to my carrier shop once it arrives there so ill have a look how it feels.
Fingerprint really is a deal breaker for me because I always use it and I always use a case. So having it on the back would really suck for me.
Anyway I hope you will enjoy the phone if you get it
Hey, I too want to buy The XZ2, what really got me into Sony Xperia smartphones is their multimedia features and they still do, That 4K screen and the advanced X-reality, conversion from SDR to HDR is just all what I'm looking for in a smartphone (I watch alot of movies and videos on my smartphone so yeah), BTW I really like that they put the Fingerprint scanner in the center (so I won't accidentally smudge the camera) it's convenient for me.
Edit: add to it how Sony is fast to update their phones next to Google, and because of how light their stock roms I won't ever think of custom roms.
AbduSharif20 said:
Hey, I too want to buy The XZ2, what really got me into Sony Xperia smartphones is their multimedia features and they still do, That 4K screen and the advanced X-reality, conversion from SDR to HDR is just all what I'm looking for in a smartphone (I watch alot of movies and videos on my smartphone so yeah), BTW I really like that they put the Fingerprint scanner in the center (so I won't accidentally smudge the camera) it's convenient for me.
Edit: add to it how Sony is fast to update their phones next to Google, and because of how light their stock roms I won't ever think of custom roms.
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The XZ2 screen resolution is not 4K, it's FHD+ (this is really sufficient because you wouldn't see at all the difference with 4K and 4K would suck more battery for nothing...)
The Sony roms overlay is clean and fast. Their updates are relatively fast (but not too fast because they usually don't release bugged roms...)
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The XZ2 screen resolution is not 4K, it's FHD+ (this is really sufficient because you wouldn't see at all the difference with 4K and 4K would suck more battery for nothing...)
The Sony roms overlay is clean and fast. Their updates are relatively fast (but not too fast because they usually don't release bugged roms...)
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Oh really, I think I missed between the 4K HDR recording and XZ2 having a 4K screen, well that's a bummer but I hope the upcoming premium/pro will do so (just like XZ Premium), thanks for noting it out.
Yeah that's good too, still Sony's updates are always ahead of other OEMs (except for Google), and not to mention most of their smartphones comes with the newest android version (at the time) out of the box.
Im also thinking about buying this one.
But ill wait so i can se how its feels in the hand.
My previous sony phones are zr and z5.
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Mario.D said:
Im also thinking about buying this one.
But ill wait so i can se how its feels in the hand.
My previous sony phones are zr and z5.
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I can assure you that it's the most comfortable Sony Xperia smartphone on the hand, didn't touch it but it's obvious and that's what reviewers say.
Great and detailed review of gsmarena...
It seems very very good !!
https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz2-review-1735.php
nreuge said:
Great and detailed review of gsmarena...
It seems very very good !!
https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz2-review-1735.php
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Yeah, I was waiting for days to read it, and the phone did fulfill expectations on pretty much all fronts. But the thing that impressed me the most was obviously the camera. The have really stepped up their game and image processing and brought it on par with S9 duo.
Now this may seem as an exaggeration, but it's actually just like that. I've downloaded full pictures from GSMArena tests and zoomed in as much as it was on S9 and all 12mp cameras, or simply put I've scaled pictures down to 12mp (as of course you are zooming in a bit more because of higher resolution). Did a comparison with S9 directly and I can tell you, although the noise levels are higher on XZ2, the amount of detail is the same, and in some areas maybe a bit better, but also in some a bit worse, so it's balanced out.
But, here is the point, if you take into consideration that XZ2 hasn't got OIS, has notably smaller aperture, smaller individual pixels and lack of dual pixel focus while having admittedly a bit bigger sensor, and all of this contributed to ISO levels 3 times higher than on S9 (or the correct term would be 2 stops higher?) yet it produced pictures with quality that is closely comparable, that just tells you much they achieved and how good the sensor is and processing as well.
Furthermore, studio shots have proven that quality of XZ2 in low-light surpasses S9 while being on nearly the same ISO, which means that processing has matured and paid off. And if Sony improves the specs of their camera setup for the next generation, it will easily top the competition.
Cirra92 said:
Yeah, I was waiting for days to read it, and the phone did fulfill expectations on pretty much all fronts. But the thing that impressed me the most was obviously the camera. The have really stepped up their game and image processing and brought it on par with S9 duo.
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yep, it did well. but remember that GSMArena uses a tripod for many of their shots, which the XZ2 camera software notices and then lowers the ISO and slows shutter speed, giving better detail. handheld shots won't be the same.
still, in many cases it's a marked improvement over the XZ1 and XZ Premium, which use the same sensor.
As an XZ1 owner, I'm tempted to wait and see the model that uses the new dual-sensor module coming later this year, rather than jumping on the XZ2.
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yep, it did well. but remember that GSMArena uses a tripod for many of their shots, which the XZ2 camera software notices and then lowers the ISO and slows shutter speed, giving better detail. handheld shots won't be the same.
still, in many cases it's a marked improvement over the XZ1 and XZ Premium, which use the same sensor.
As an XZ1 owner, I'm tempted to wait and see the model that uses the new dual-sensor module coming later this year, rather than jumping on the XZ2.
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They do use tripod for studio shot, however they don't use tripod for those outdoor shots in order to replicate everyday usage, you can even see that based on shutter speed, which is 1/16, mostly what is used by Superior Auto on handheld usage. When it's on tripod, it goes slower than that.
The point is that even at high ISO values, it's on par with the S9 duo, objectively speaking and when the ISO is matched, XZ2 goes ahead, due to detail preservation. I'm not saying it because I am biased, as I'm not, I've downloaded the pictures, scaled them and compared. Now, I'm far from photographer and have scarce knowledge about it, but I have good enough eyes and common sense ( I hope so ).
Anyway, the improvement is here and a big one at that, so this is a very good sign. Unfortunately it will be a while until I can buy this one, but since you have XZ1, you can wait for XZ Premium successor, it should be even better than this
Just ordered from Amazon US. Supposedly in stock. Expected delivery is March 22 - March 27. 6GB RAM model, dual SIM.
Edit: shipped March 16, delivery expected March 20