Stiff Buttons - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Received my Moto G (2nd Generation) yesterday and power and volume buttons seem a little stiff. Have to press quite hard for them to register. Is it normal or did I get a dud? I had power buttons issues with two NEXUS 4s hence why I am a little concerned.
PS: 2nd gen moto is a worthy upgrade to the NEXUS 4. The only issues is lack of memory. If you have both FB app and Chrome open for an example, it may kick FB off the memory. Not a big deal tho, takes 2 sec to reload.

They are a bit stiff but I thinm they just made it that way since so many complained about the "shaky" buttons of the last version :b

Mine are stiff too, but they work perfectly. The buttons on the "old" Moto G are quite loose, imo that's an improvment. Normally the buttons get a bit softer after some weeks of use.

That's good to hear. I suppose the original Moto G's buttons are bit too soft.

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Volume button, soft keys and camera?

Hey there. I bought this phone today and I love it. However, I have a couple of couple gripes with it, but am not entirely sure whether it's just with my phone or the Incredible S in general.
First off, the volume buttons appears to be flimsy. I mean, yes, it's very thin and I'm not totally used to it yet, but I've noticed you can moved it from side to side slightly. This is the same for the power button, only not as noticeable.
Secondly, the soft keys. I get that they have an LCD display to make the buttons rotate, but on the search key it seems a lot brighter and a bit blurry, and I'm able to see the rotated magnifying glass underneath the non-rotated button. It's not as bright as the 'standard' non-rotated button, but it is noticeable. When I rotate the phone and the buttons rotate I'm unable to see the non-rotated magnifying glass. This is also the same, though not as bad for the back button.
And finally, the camera. I'm don't know whether this is a software/app/wifi issue, but I tested out Tango and Fring using the front facing camera and the back camera, and called my friend. He has an iPhone 4 and he came through clear. I, on the other hand (according to him at least) came through blocky and 'stuttery', with lots of pauses. Fring was worse, as the sound wasn't good for either of us, but the video seemed poor on my end.
So yeah, are my complaints common to all Incredible S'? If so, then I won't be too bothered, but I'm kinda worrying a bit because I bought the last IS in the shop, and when the salesman opened up the box to show me the phone, it didn't have any of the stickers on, and the screen had fingermarks on. He said that it was brand new, but they had used it to show another customer. I got home and tried turning it on, and there was no charge left in the battery. I looked in the box and all the chargers etc were unopened, though.
So yeah, what do you think?
zingxao said:
Hey there. I bought this phone today and I love it. However, I have a couple of couple gripes with it, but am not entirely sure whether it's just with my phone or the Incredible S in general.
First off, the volume buttons appears to be flimsy. I mean, yes, it's very thin and I'm not totally used to it yet, but I've noticed you can moved it from side to side slightly. This is the same for the power button, only not as noticeable.
Secondly, the soft keys. I get that they have an LCD display to make the buttons rotate, but on the search key it seems a lot brighter and a bit blurry, and I'm able to see the rotated magnifying glass underneath the non-rotated button. It's not as bright as the 'standard' non-rotated button, but it is noticeable. When I rotate the phone and the buttons rotate I'm unable to see the non-rotated magnifying glass. This is also the same, though not as bad for the back button.
And finally, the camera. I'm don't know whether this is a software/app/wifi issue, but I tested out Tango and Fring using the front facing camera and the back camera, and called my friend. He has an iPhone 4 and he came through clear. I, on the other hand (according to him at least) came through blocky and 'stuttery', with lots of pauses. Fring was worse, as the sound wasn't good for either of us, but the video seemed poor on my end.
So yeah, are my complaints common to all Incredible S'? If so, then I won't be too bothered, but I'm kinda worrying a bit because I bought the last IS in the shop, and when the salesman opened up the box to show me the phone, it didn't have any of the stickers on, and the screen had fingermarks on. He said that it was brand new, but they had used it to show another customer. I got home and tried turning it on, and there was no charge left in the battery. I looked in the box and all the chargers etc were unopened, though.
So yeah, what do you think?
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Yes it is normal for the volume rocker to rock in all directions however don't let it fool you it is very sturdy and longer lasting than the power button. Never had an issue with the volume button however the power button will require more pressure to push over time.
As for the soft keys they do blur out and it all depends what angle your viewing them from.
The. Camera on. The front of the. IncS is a piece of crap only at 1mp, I'm not sure. What the iphones resolution is but I can guarantee that it's high seeing as they advertise video calls.
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itsbeertimenow said:
Yes it is normal for the volume rocker to rock in all directions however don't let it fool you it is very sturdy and longer lasting than the power button. Never had an issue with the volume button however the power button will require more pressure to push over time.
As for the soft keys they do blur out and it all depends what angle your viewing them from.
The. Camera on. The front of the. IncS is a piece of crap only at 1mp, I'm not sure. What the iphones resolution is but I can guarantee that it's high seeing as they advertise video calls.
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From my experience with both phone the front facing camera sucks on both the only way to insure video calling works well is with good lighting
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Another thing I've just noticed; again, am wondering whether this is same for everyone or just me (after the whole no stickers on the phone thing with fingerprints on the screen), but the micro USB port is kinda loose. If you tap it with your smallest finger, or if the charger is in it and move it slightly, the USB port moves.
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just a bit concerned if I've paid a a fair amount of money for a 'new' phone, when it's not and there's things wrong with it.
Thanks.
Everything seems pretty normal. Bearing in mind it is not a closed case like the iphone series, therefore you have to expect movement with parts of the phone.
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zingxao said:
Another thing I've just noticed; again, am wondering whether this is same for everyone or just me (after the whole no stickers on the phone thing with fingerprints on the screen), but the micro USB port is kinda loose. If you tap it with your smallest finger, or if the charger is in it and move it slightly, the USB port moves.
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just a bit concerned if I've paid a a fair amount of money for a 'new' phone, when it's not and there's things wrong with it.
Thanks.
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My phone. Came the same way dude and yes the usb port moves on all of them it adds a bit of flexibility so it's not as easy to damage.
There is nothing to worry about. There was no plastic on mine and there was finger prints on it. The sales people generally boot them up once to avoid a waiting period when setting up your phone for the first time. They boot them up than shut them down so they can boot up fast using fast boot. The less time waiting for the phones the more time spent selling phones.
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Oh okay dude! Thanks for the replies. I think I look for faults when they're not there lol.
So yeah cheers for clearing that up.

My experience with both Optimus G and Nexus 4

Hey guys I just want to let you guys know my experience with the Optimus G and the Nexus 4. My situation was a bit funny as I didn't get both phones at the same time so my usage for each phone was very exclusive. I spent a week with the Optimus G (2 Optimus Gs in one week LOL) and afterwards a few days with the Nexus 4.
Optimus G Experience
I first got the Optimus G because the Nexus 4 wasn't available and I really liked the look of the phone, it was sleek and the buttons were really great to press. LG put some effort into their UI and it had some pretty great features like the multi-window and the quickmemo note taker.
I would've kept it but there were some funky problems/bugs with touchscreen responsiveness. I don't think it was an issue with sensitivity but I think it was the way some of the UI elements were designed. Typing was fine but when navigating and swiping, you weirdly lose a swipe or two. Enough to be annoying. There was one point where the touchscreen stopped responding completely to my touch. That was weird. I don't know if it was a static charge thing cause I was wiping the phone down quite a bit and plastic was all over it, or a defective touch screen but after doing a recovery using the KDZ LG update thing, it fixed itself. Needless to say that freaked me out so I went and returned the device and got an exchange. The second device never had that issue but it still had the issue with missing a swipe here and there. The great thing though was the performance in games. It gave me a consistent experience through NFS: Most Wanted and other intensive games. The screen was also damn great.
The visual design of the Optimus G is awesome. It looks awesome and premium. Doesn't feel too awesome though, it actually sorta feels gross. Everything about the phone was glossy, therefore oils would totally cling to it and cause a really slippery, gross feeling phone unless you wiped it down every hour or so. The buttons were pretty darn good to press and felt solid. The phone was thin but that caused me to feel the back a bit too much and usually the back was really warm. So the whole holding experience of the phone is warm, oily, and smudgy. My hand is usually dry but the phone still oiled up like a sumo wrestler. Sounds great doesn't it?
In conclusion with the Optimus G, looked good, performed great, but its UI hampered the usage, the lack of users prevented a large following thus reducing development, and the holding experience of the phone was really bad. In the end, I did return the Optimus G.
Nexus 4 Experience
I managed to get my hands on a Nexus 4 a couple days after returning the Optimus G. Was extermely excited to use it. The one I got was defect free it seems with no yellow tint. After the Optimus G however, the design of it was a bit weird with the curved glass and it was definitely bulkier than the OG. Using it for a couple days here's what I noticed:
Man that stock android experience is just too smooth and there is really nothing that can compare to untouched Jellybean. It was just really responsive when tapping and swiping. So I couldn't fault the OS here, despite the lack of built in features such as multi-window (Q-slide in Optimus G) but there's probably an app for that. 4.2 does have its share of bugs though but nothing too crazy.
Visually the phone looks good but again, I did not like the curved glass that much as it sorta promotes scratching on the edges as screen protectors usually can't cover it properly. At first I didn't like the wider and a bit bulkier Nexus 4 compared to the Optimus G but after using it, the phone feels REALLY good holding it. The soft touch plastic was thick enough and curved in a way that the hand was not always on the back of the glass and allowed the hand a bit of breathing room so that it wouldn't get too warm. The soft touch plastic is not oil prone so you don't feel as icky. So the holding experience was great. The buttons on the other hand is a different story and I wish it had the same clicky feeling of the Optimus G but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
The performance of the phone was good but not quite as good as the Optimus G due to, yes, throttling. Although I like to have my phone as stock as possible and performing properly out of the box, I know the community for the phone will help it in the long run as it is a Nexus device and work out some of the issues.
In conclusion, the Nexus 4 has great software, great community, and feels great in the hand. The things I wish it did better are: buttons, some performance issues, and hopefully the edges of the screen won't scratch in the future. Otherwise it's a great phone that I think I'll be keeping.
That's a nice write up, thanks for sharing.
Rik.
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Multi-tasking on the Nexus 4 is second to none. Do you mean multi-window?
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Multi-tasking on the Nexus 4 is second to none. Do you mean multi-window?
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Yeah my bad. That's exactly what I mean. Changed it.
Hm...do you mean the Optimus G has slippery body frame, too? Different from the rubbery body frame of Nexus 4?
That's a shame really.
richteralan said:
Hm...do you mean the Optimus G has slippery body frame, too? Different from the rubbery body frame of Nexus 4?
That's a shame really.
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Yeah the body frame is glossy/slippery as well.
In pretty sure that multi window will be in key lime pie anyways
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Nice write .
If you wanna sell the N4 i`ll buy it ! :laugh:

[Q] power button

how is your power button after few months of use?
mine is obviously not so stiff anymore, so I am very worried that it won't totally broke with time...
the button is made of some rubber-material on the inside. maybe it wears out after a couple of months. mine is now 4 months old but seems to work like on the first day.
although thats my second razr I. The first had some production-quality issues. one was the power-button, it was kind of pushed into the case on the upper side so it was very difficult to press it.
Nope, I got mine from a user who bought it some months ago, and the power is going strong. The chin of my device creaks I when you press it hard, but no big deal.
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Buttons on the back are a fail...

I don't like the design or placement of the power and volume buttons. I have to fumble to find the right button for the volume. It is not intuitive at all and you have to flip the phone over to look at what you are doing. The power button gets pressed all the time when it is in my pocket. I have had it reboot from the power button being held down in my back pocket more than once. No telling how many times it rebooted consecutively. I hear it powering up and take it out and sure enough it is restarting. It turns the screen on when it is in my shirt pocket. Just a good bounce is enough to activate it. Don't think I would buy another phone with this set up.
Ain't happy about lg locking it down so tight either.
There, I brought the whine, someone else can serve the cheese.
Not to me.
mrphil101 said:
I don't like the design or placement of the power and volume buttons. I have to fumble to find the right button for the volume. It is not intuitive at all and you have to flip the phone over to look at what you are doing. The power button gets pressed all the time when it is in my pocket. I have had it reboot from the power button being held down in my back pocket more than once. No telling how many times it rebooted consecutively. I hear it powering up and take it out and sure enough it is restarting. It turns the screen on when it is in my shirt pocket. Just a good bounce is enough to activate it. Don't think I would buy another phone with this set up.
Ain't happy about lg locking it down so tight either.
There, I brought the whine, someone else can serve the cheese.
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I can say the same thing about the button being on the side. The last LG that I had was always tuning on or off or taking a screen shot of darkness because the button got pressed. I have large hand and I loved hitting the power button or the volume up or down with my fingers while I was in a call. But this is the great thing about this forum you can come and have a rant if you want to.
not everyone is a fan of the LG back button setup
this is the first phone I've had with that, and I am still not used to it after 4 months
I find myself turning the phone around alot as well to see exactly what I am pushing...
I take alot of "unwanted" screenshots by accident, but when I want to actually take one, its sometimes a PITA
The G3 has a nicer back button array, so maybe it will be on the Flex 2 as well
I didn't like it at first especially screenshots but its grown on me. And I notice myself reaching to the back with my index finger on other phones. And also the knock on feature is great. The best thing about the placement of the vol buttons is at work I can turn the vol up or down easier when its in my pocket then when I had a phone with them on the side.
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I dig on the buttons and I like the unique characteristic it gives the device. My only complaint is that I smudge up the camera lens every time I miss the volume up button.
I thought one of the reasons the buttons are on the back is becsue of the thin bezels. I've never really had any issue with them. It's kind of funny how some people hate the buttons on the back but never even tried a LG. Haters going to hate. LoL
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I like the buttons on the back. When I play with my old Samsung Note #1 or my wife's S5, I feel the buttons on the side are awkward now, which is kinda weird imho. Also, another weird thing.... After staring at my concave flex screen for hours each day, when I look at a "flat" phone, it looks like the screen is convex. Anyone else experience this phenomenon?
Habits do develop when you use it alot. I frequently tap on my tab's screen trying to wake it up.
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Same here, after 4 months I still turn the whole phone around to see the button I'm pushing. Please change it on the LG G flex 2
I like the buttons on the back of the phone, never even have to think about what im pushing!
HIT EM WIT DAT FLEX
I personally think it's genius and innovative from the norm of any other carrier. Thinking outside the box is sometimes a fail, but for me and many more love this aspect. I haven't had any issues with the buttons on the back besides the 1st few days. Once I got used to them, couldn't imagine them not being there.
Different strokes for different folks.
Also have the concave vision of any other flat phone or tablet. Looks opposite curved of my phone. It's crazy! No matter the size. I freaked the 1st time I picked up my wife's G2, lol! I am like you see it? She just started at me like I have lost my mind.
Also never had it reboot on me once or turned on the screen. Least I don't know of any way.
Love this phone and honestly keeping it till the flex 2. Dig the operating system as well. SMS pop up window is amazing!
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LG keeps improving on the back keys. Flex back keys are better then the G2. Thinking the G3 back keys will be better then the Flex. I like different things which is why I like the butons and the Flex. I have a Jump to use and kind of want the G3 but thinking I might miss my Flex. Kind of pissed @ T-Mobile though since they screwd me on my discount when they said last month I would be grandfathered in.
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I don't know why some of you guys have to turn your phone around just to see what your pushing. I don't have a problem at as to you can just tell what your pushing on when feeling on the buttons i mean the power button sticks out more then the volume so you should already know that's the power button and from there you can already figure out if you slide your finger up or down you can tell that your on the volume button as to it has some kind of a small dot on both i find it much easier and better that the buttons are on the back.
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for me, I think its more a product of muscle memory, than anything else..
I've been using side buttons on cell phones for at least the last 15-20 years, and this is my first phone that had the buttons on the back..
Old habits die hard..
wase4711 said:
for me, I think its more a product of muscle memory, than anything else..
I've been using side buttons on cell phones for at least the last 15-20 years, and this is my first phone that had the buttons on the back..
Old habits die hard..
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Same with me as this is my first phone with the buttons in the back but i guess i got used to it faster because it seems much better for it to be in the back for me that is.
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jessemt4g said:
i personally think it's genius and innovative from the norm of any other carrier. Thinking outside the box is sometimes a fail, but for me and many more love this aspect. I haven't had any issues with the buttons on the back besides the 1st few days. Once i got used to them, couldn't imagine them not being there.
Different strokes for different folks.
Also have the concave vision of any other flat phone or tablet. Looks opposite curved of my phone. It's crazy! No matter the size. I freaked the 1st time i picked up my wife's g2, lol! I am like you see it? She just started at me like i have lost my mind.
Also never had it reboot on me once or turned on the screen. Least i don't know of any way.
Love this phone and honestly keeping it till the flex 2. Dig the operating system as well. Sms pop up window is amazing!
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+1
hit em wit dat flex
wase4711 said:
for me, I think its more a product of muscle memory, than anything else..
I've been using side buttons on cell phones for at least the last 15-20 years, and this is my first phone that had the buttons on the back..
Old habits die hard..
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You and everyone else, right? No other phone has done this, so in essence it's new for all of us, lol!
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lg G1, and the G2 both had this back button setup before the Flex
Meant as a company. G2 I have as my wife and stepdaughter have one. Never used the g1.
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I'm all for it!
I think yellowman said it well. I got a case as well for the kickstand. Then I realized the hole for the back buttons made even easier to locate the buttons. So now I quickly find the down volume then go from there. Because of my work, I needed to find a different way to carry a phone. I had an S4 previously. I made a pouch to wear under my shirt kind of like a holster. With the S4 I always had trouble finding buttons. With the G Flex now, its easier than ever. Using same pouch, but I cut a hole for the buttons. Easy to feel them through the shirt. I just wish I could put CyanogenMod on this thing...

Question Stiff Buttons

Hi,
I just recently became a proud owner of this phone, but the first thing I noticed right off the bat was that the buttons are not as clicky and tactile as I'm used to being, coming from the OnePlus 6 I can definitely say the button feels a bit stiff and quite mushy, I'm using it with the default silicone case. Is it just me?
arjun said:
Hi,
I just recently became a proud owner of this phone, but the first thing I noticed right off the bat was that the buttons are not as clicky and tactile as I'm used to being, coming from the OnePlus 6 I can definitely say the button feels a bit stiff and quite mushy, I'm using it with the default silicone case. Is it just me?
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yes. From 1+7 pro. this phone has tiny and stiff buttons.
Buttons are not stiff. Remove rhe case and see for yourself. It is the case that is the problem
Nope. Not stiff.
The buttons are considered well built and strong with no rattling or moving parts.
You might be used to old, low quality buttons like the OnePlus 6 where the button will be pressed with just a slight touch..and that is not a good thing.

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