[Q] A way to disable power off function ? - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello there everyone !
In Brazil we have a lot of robberies and I got my previous phone (an awesome Razr D3) stolen from me in one of these acts.
I'm about to receive my 2nd Gen Moto G and got plans to insert some kind of GPS tracking software like Cerberus or anything like that. The only issue is that, in order to prevent the device from being lost, the best thing would be to disable the power off function on the device, this way the thief cannot power off the device and it will remain trackable via software.
So here comes the question. Is there a way to prevent the power off function ? I've heard that as this is a device in which the battery cannot be accessed there are some different rules for it.
If someone knows, please answer Thanks a lot !

Marakatu said:
Hello there everyone !
In Brazil we have a lot of robberies and I got my previous phone (an awesome Razr D3) stolen from me in one of these acts.
I'm about to receive my 2nd Gen Moto G and got plans to insert some kind of GPS tracking software like Cerberus or anything like that. The only issue is that, in order to prevent the device from being lost, the best thing would be to disable the power off function on the device, this way the thief cannot power off the device and it will remain trackable via software.
So here comes the question. Is there a way to prevent the power off function ? I've heard that as this is a device in which the battery cannot be accessed there are some different rules for it.
If someone knows, please answer Thanks a lot !
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Yes! There is an app for that...
The name is Smart Lockscreen protector.

rafaelbrunner said:
Yes! There is an app for that...
The name is Smart Lockscreen protector.
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And does it work in the Moto G 2nd Gen ?

U can remove the power off menu from power button by using Xposed called Apm..

jbanti said:
U can remove the power off menu from power button by using Xposed called Apm..
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But i think the xposed apm needs root or no?
I'm from Brazil too and I'm worry about THE same and i'm using the Smart Lockscreen app that was suggested above.
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Yes i cant understand why android do not disable power off and airplane mode when is locked... Please! Last week my nexus 5 was stolen and the guy The first thing he did was power off mantaining 8 seconds POWER button... So i cant located it. Im from Argentina

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[Q] Can the default phone app be changed ?

All, I know that galaxy doesnt have dedicated hard buttons for accept and cancel calls but I didnt think it will be so painful to use. If I am in any application, I need to press center button to come to home screen and then press the phone icon from dock and then with many clicks I finally call someone. Any way to change this. ?
I wish there was some substitute for that Green button in galaxy. I really miss hitting the green button in any application and getting to the phone app to start dialing
Best is if there could be a third party phone app that we could use. Does anybody have it. Can someone suggest a few names.
Thanks for your help.
No one ?
I really can't believe everybody is happy with this painful procedure of calling someone. Most of the times when I center press, and click on phone on the doc, it goes to call history. So i again have to click one tab and then start dialing. Too much of work.
To make it worse, I haven't yet found a good way of customizing my bluetooth button to launch a voice dialer. It just simply calls the last person I called - thats it.
Atleast is there a way that you know to customise the bluetooth button to start Vlingo or something like that.
This becomes a major painpoint while driving.
Anyone ! ?
Thanks.
what model of sgs are you using !?
i'm having a little hard time on understanding the issue ...
this is a i9000 forum.
maybe you shold post the q' on american models forums here on xda ..
I think they've got the buttons and stuff
software are applicable to all versions of SGS, to all adroid actually
except for some very hardware specific softwares
only ROMs are specific to country releases
So you are finding it painful to click a few buttons... yet you still got a smart phone, which requires you to devote hours in order to fully explore its potential.
Far as I know, there's no way around this.
n e v e r m i n d
snapper.fishes said:
So you are finding it painful to click a few buttons... yet you still got a smart phone, which requires you to devote hours in order to fully explore its potential.
Far as I know, there's no way around this.
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I have an unbranded i9000 only which does not have a dedicated call button. The only way to access thee phone app is to hit the center vuitton and then access the phone icon on the dock.
True, I've spent hours and hours on the phone understanding and customizing it, but doing this calling process by left handing while driving is a problem. Say isn't my sat nav on and need to call someone while driving.So that means tapping center button, hitting phone icon, hitting keypad tab and then dialing the buttons.that's the problem.
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I too want a dedicated button. But for me its the end call button. It just takes a few secs to hang up but annoying as I need to wait for screen to wake up then unlag. And lots of time I just plan forget. Mind u I know I can use power as hang up but that also has other problems
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[Q] Power button just wont work

All of a sudden the power button on my HTC Opal just refuse to work.
I had this problem a few months ago but it started to work within a day normally.
So right now the only ways i can use my phone is keeping it on without suspending power,plugging into charger every now and then to wake,or using the handsfree,or call my cell from another and wake it...im using Evolution-beta(6.5.3) rom..
I would love to get the power button working again.
Anyone has pics on how to open the Opal???I am even ready to physically open it an clean anything if required
Falcon-16 said:
All of a sudden the power button on my HTC Opal just refuse to work.
I had this problem a few months ago but it started to work within a day normally.
So right now the only ways i can use my phone is keeping it on without suspending power,plugging into charger every now and then to wake,or using the handsfree,or call my cell from another and wake it...im using Evolution-beta(6.5.3) rom..
I would love to get the power button working again.
Anyone has pics on how to open the Opal???I am even ready to physically open it an clean anything if required
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You'd ruin the warranty dude...you stay in Mumbai,there is a htc service center at Borivali West in Thakkar Shopping Centre,S.V.Road. S.G.Infotech is the name and here goes the phone number-02228338063.
Call them and quote the warranty.Better not ruin anything.Before you do so,please flash the stock rom in my signature and do not overclock it as they will realise that u have violated the t&C of warranty.Just trying to save your money.They also have service centre at Andheri.Call and you may know.
thanks shr...but will have to wait for exams to finish to service my phone.
In the meantime you could use the following registry tweak to turn on your phone using any button (not just the power button):
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
set the "defaultkeylock" value to 0, and soft reset. You'll be able to wake your device up with any button (the D-Pad and the Answer/End buttons).
To lock your device in your pocket use S2U2 or the default Windows Mobile lock. I prefer S2U2 because you can set it to turn off your phone in 5 seconds, so if the phone wakes up accidentally in your pocket you won't waste your battery power.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
GFX said:
In the meantime you could use the following registry tweak to turn on your phone using any button (not just the power button):
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
set the "defaultkeylock" value to 0, and soft reset. You'll be able to wake your device up with any button (the D-Pad and the Answer/End buttons).
To lock your device in your pocket use S2U2 or the default Windows Mobile lock. I prefer S2U2 because you can set it to turn off your phone in 5 seconds, so if the phone wakes up accidentally in your pocket you won't waste your battery power.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
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Tooo bad this dosen't work for me.
Well, it works for me, and I'm using the same ROM (Evo Ultimate Beta)!
Why it doesn't work for you? Are you using any other lock programs? Did you soft-reset after the tweak?
GFX said:
Well, it works for me, and I'm using the same ROM (Evo Ultimate Beta)!
Why it doesn't work for you? Are you using any other lock programs? Did you soft-reset after the tweak?
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It works only if i press any key within a certain time.
I guess my power button is always internally pressed because I get the warning about saving data even just after resets.
Falcon-16 said:
It works only if i press any key within a certain time.
I guess my power button is always internally pressed because I get the warning about saving data even just after resets.
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Guy,wait until u are done with the exams and service it at the service center.
shr said:
Guy,wait until u are done with the exams and service it at the service center.
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untill then im buying micromax q1..really cheap..Rs 1.4k only
Falcon-16 said:
untill then im buying micromax q1..really cheap..Rs 1.4k only
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Go for a iNQ chat 3g...Heres the link
Falcon-16 said:
untill then im buying micromax q1..really cheap..Rs 1.4k only
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Reviews on Micromax q1.Well,this was just to help you.Nothing on q1 after this.
shr said:
Go for a iNQ chat 3g...Heres the link
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It looks good ,but for now just need a temporary phone.Thanks anyway .
It works
@GFX
Thanks, like I've said in the title - you saved my Viva!
@Falcon_16
I was having the same problem. Phone still under warranty so... I hoped it will be repaired (a dirty contact I've presumed).
Nope! It wasn't the switch fault. It was a corroded ribbon connector on the MB. Not serviceable, the only choice being a MB replacement, not under warranty hence there are corrosion signs. That meaning over 150 USD...
So, thanks again GFX for the advice, the phone seems now still usable.
(meantime I've bought a Wildfire...)
ivan_who said:
@GFX
Thanks, like I've said in the title - you saved my Viva!
@Falcon_16
I was having the same problem. Phone still under warranty so... I hoped it will be repaired (a dirty contact I've presumed).
Nope! It wasn't the switch fault. It was a corroded ribbon connector on the MB. Not serviceable, the only choice being a MB replacement, not under warranty hence there are corrosion signs. That meaning over 150 USD...
So, thanks again GFX for the advice, the phone seems now still usable.
(meantime I've bought a Wildfire...)
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You're welcome ivan_who. Glad the tip helped you keep your phone in a usable state.
I found that trick in the net somewhere, so I cannot take direct credit for it. I merely copied it here because I thought it could help someone, and it did.
Enjoy your Viva.
hi everyone, my opal yesterday gave an error that something related with quickshutdown, i reseted it and now...doesnt came to life again... tried in the charger, i was using energy rom too... anyone knows how to reanimat it? xD

[Q] How to remove demo mode?

I've just got my Xperia Z phone today (6602), inserted SIM card, personalized it and everything, but every single time i press the power button, it enters the demo mode on the phone. The wallpaper and brightness settings always reset no matter how i change it. I went through the apps, but there's no way of disabling it. Is there some way i can remove this thing because it auto sets my phone on maximum brightness and drains the battery like no tomorrow.
Also, there's a widget that says "Touch Here for Details on Xperia Z"
No matter how many times i remove that widget, it resets.
Dial *#*#sellmore#*#* and it should be gone. But a normal retail phone shouldn't have this activated, so...
[email protected] said:
Dial *#*#sellmore#*#* and it should be gone. But a normal retail phone shouldn't have this activated, so...
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Thank you. I just contacted my AT&T store reps and they informed me this was a floor demo model. I got this phone from Negri Electronics as a new, sealed phone and was surprised it was a demo phone when i paid full retail price for it. If not for your help, I would've gone to the painstaking process of rooting and/or reflashing my rom. Is there a significant difference between the floor model versions and the retail ones? If not, I might as well continue using it w/o the hassle. If i resell this phone later on, would there be problems (lower resell value)? If yes, I'll contact Negri for a replacement.
Thanks in advance. +rep for your help.
Ronzalpha said:
Thank you. I just contacted my AT&T store reps and they informed me this was a floor demo model. I got this phone from Negri Electronics as a new, sealed phone and was surprised it was a demo phone when i paid full retail price for it. If not for your help, I would've gone to the painstaking process of rooting and/or reflashing my rom. Is there a significant difference between the floor model versions and the retail ones? If not, I might as well continue using it w/o the hassle. If i resell this phone later on, would there be problems (lower resell value)? If yes, I'll contact Negri for a replacement.
Thanks in advance. +rep for your help.
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Usually floor models are just retail units with the demo mode activated
sony xperia z1
Ronzalpha said:
I've just got my Xperia Z phone today (6602), inserted SIM card, personalized it and everything, but every single time i press the power button, it enters the demo mode on the phone. The wallpaper and brightness settings always reset no matter how i change it. I went through the apps, but there's no way of disabling it. Is there some way i can remove this thing because it auto sets my phone on maximum brightness and drains the battery like no tomorrow.
Also, there's a widget that says "Touch Here for Details on Xperia Z"
No matter how many times i remove that widget, it resets.
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hi, i have the same issue can u please tell me how to fix it and remove the demo app from the phone u can email me at [email protected] thanks in advance
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[email protected] said:
Dial *#*#sellmore#*#* and it should be gone. But a normal retail phone shouldn't have this activated, so...
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Dear Sir,
i just realize that my xperia z1 is a demo phone and i cant remove that application , can you please help me with this issue
Hi, I also have the same problem with the Z1... Not even root resolves the problem because the phone starts to lag horribly - guess it tries to start demo mode and it starts looping.
I tried the *#*#sellmore#*#* but it asks me to activate demo mode and not cancel it.
Someone please help! I can't stand this phone reseting itself any longer.
Thanks
BTW I did activate and deactivate the sellmore function and no change.
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Hello guys,
same thing here on a Xperia Z that i have bought second hand from a guy, and i did not notice it untill i got home.
I found a temporary solution to deactivate the annoying demo mode, you can go to Settings>Apps>running apps and kill the process RETAIL DEMO, you just click it and press STOP untill it became inactive.
Also if somebody have solve it permanently, maybe it can tell us, i was thinking to root, but it`s a little bit harder because it`s running on Android 4.4.4.
i have sony xperia e4 dual phone and it perform like demo phone last 6 month please help me that i disable the retail mode

Disable power off on lockscreen in ARHD?

One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
ZippyDan said:
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
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There is a Xposed module that can be used instead of the one in this ROM that has exactly what you are concerned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594642
Sent by smoke signals, then translated to Morse, and digitized by Monkeys.
ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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if your phone is stolen, this is your friend. google.com/android/devicemanager just log in with your e-mail and you're good to go
ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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I have found avast make such an app that your after I can't get URL at the moment but search through the play store for avast rooted and stolen, I will see if I can get you a link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.antitheft_setup
dronepro said:
if your phone is stolen, this is your friend. google.com/android/devicemanager just log in with your e-mail and you're good to go
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Didn't know about this, thanks. But it is useless if the phone is OFF (I just tested).
Madaz2 said:
I have found avast make such an app that your after I can't get URL at the moment but search through the play store for avast rooted and stolen, I will see if I can get you a link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.antitheft_setup
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I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
Thela7 said:
There is a Xposed module that can be used instead of the one in this ROM that has exactly what you are concerned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594642
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This looks good, but I am left uncertain about whether it would work on this phone. Browsing the thread reveals this information:
Confirmed Working Devices/Firmwares
HTC devices: HTC One X 4.2.2 stock Rom with Sense 5
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Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
A user has reported that sound options disappear when using this mod on HTC One. I currently have no idea why this happens, and I'm too busy to figure it out at this moment. Sorry.
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ZippyDan said:
I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
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yeah, but IF you have lost or had your phone stolen i was pretty sure if they take out your sim and put in a new one the phone will go into stolen mode and features will be disabled
Madaz2 said:
yeah, but IF you have lost or had your phone stolen i was pretty sure if they take out your sim and put in a new one the phone will go into stolen mode and features will be disabled
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I'm not worried about that. In my opinion, the first few hours after a theft are the most crucial (in fact, the first hour while he is escaping to his den). What I'm worried about is the thief IMMEDIATELY turning off the phone after it gets stolen, and then having the phone wiped at his leisure.
ZippyDan said:
I'm not worried about that. In my opinion, the first few hours after a theft are the most crucial (in fact, the first hour while he is escaping to his den). What I'm worried about is the thief IMMEDIATELY turning off the phone after it gets stolen, and then having the phone wiped at his leisure.
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What if the thief just turns airplane mode on? Does avast override it?
ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
clarkson63 said:
Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
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then pray that the thief doesn't know about this :silly:
But yea, I think it's important to have long-press power button disabled when the phone is locked.
ZippyDan said:
Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
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Ah k. Yeah, I'm still using 4.3 so I don't know about if it works on KitKat.
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ZippyDan said:
Didn't know about this, thanks. But it is useless if the phone is OFF (I just tested).
I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
This looks good, but I am left uncertain about whether it would work on this phone. Browsing the thread reveals this information:
Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
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I am not aware of anything that can be helpful if your phone is off... Every app or software will require a satellite or cell tower ak or echo request in order to find your phone. if you can find anything that magically can turn your powered off device on and you're able to track, lock or delete it, I think the entire community will love you
dronepro said:
I am not aware of anything that can be helpful if your phone is off... Every app or software will require a satellite or cell tower ak or echo request in order to find your phone. if you can find anything that magically can turn your powered off device on and you're able to track, lock or delete it, I think the entire community will love you
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I don't know how you guys keep misinterpreting me I know nothing is useful when the phone is turned off. This is exactly why I am so eager to make sure it is impossible or at least more difficult for a thief to turn off my phone from the lockscreen, so that it STAYS ON so that I can track it.
ZippyDan said:
I don't know how you guys keep misinterpreting me I know nothing is useful when the phone is turned off. This is exactly why I am so eager to make sure it is impossible or at least more difficult for a thief to turn off my phone from the lockscreen, so that it STAYS ON so that I can track it.
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Ah I see, it's my understanding that holding the power button for about 15-30 seconds will power off your device no matter what. As sad as that is, I think it should be that way because if for any reason your phone locks up while asleep and you cannot wake it up, you should be able to turn it off. otherwise, if it gets stolen and the thief cannot turn it off, simply removing the SIM card will render any security feature useless until the phone battery is fully discharged and he can charge, enter recovery and wipe it...
Nikos2k said:
What if the thief just turns airplane mode on? Does avast override it?
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Avast does have an option (only when rooted I believe) to automatically activate WiFi and Cellular data even if turned off.
Of course, if you have a lockscreen this does not even matter as they would not be able to turn it off.
There is another option to have the device automatically search for open WiFi's and join automatically. I'm not sure if this is part of Avast or AndroidLost as I have both installed.
clarkson63 said:
Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
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If this 10-second press is a hardware-limitation (as in there is no way for a ROM to override this), then so be it. But I would like that to be confirmed.
But what I am mainly asking for, at the very least, is that the 3 or 4 second power button hold be disabled when on the lockscreen. I know for sure that this has changed from whichever stock version I was running to this latest Revolution ROM I am running now.
10-seconds is a long time to hold the power button, and as a thief may not know about this feature (and it might be different for every brand or model), they might give up before they hit the 10-second mark. For example, I think the Sleep + Home button hard reset for the iPhone is much more widely known, but it also requires only like 5 or 6 seconds of holding.
ZippyDan said:
If this 10-second press is a hardware-limitation (as in there is no way for a ROM to override this), then so be it. But I would like that to be confirmed.
But what I am mainly asking for, at the very least, is that the 3 or 4 second power button hold be disabled when on the lockscreen. I know for sure that this has changed from whichever stock version I was running to this latest Revolution ROM I am running now.
10-seconds is a long time to hold the power button, and as a thief may not know about this feature (and it might be different for every brand or model), they might give up before they hit the 10-second mark. For example, I think the Sleep + Home button hard reset for the iPhone is much more widely known, but it also requires only like 5 or 6 seconds of holding.
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The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
HTC_Phone said:
The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
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Well put.
HTC_Phone said:
The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
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dronepro said:
Well put.
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Terribly put. I accept the 10-second press. Let me return to my original concern which is the much shorter 3 - 5 second which now allows the phone to be turned off from the lockscreen with an on-screen menu. I would like that gone.
The second part of the post is uninformed at best or arrogant at worst. The OP is probably speaking from the point of view of a first-world resident.
I live in a third-world country. I have had a iPhone 5 that was stolen from me by two men wearing helmets who drove an untagged motorcycle onto a sidewalk just to snatch the phone out of my hand. On a public bus, I was sandwiched by 3 men just so that one could pickpocket my HTC Desire (a 3-year old backup phone) from behind. When I confronted them, I was punched and left bloody so I let them go (valuing my life over a phone).
I have another friend who has lost two iPhone 5's. Once, she was pickpocketed in a crowded mall. Another time, she was walking on the street near a public metro station with her phone clutched to her chest. A man grabbed her arm as she was passing and threw her to the ground. Afterwards he ran across a busy divided highway into a slum area.
I just met a foreigner here who was riding in the back seat of a taxi while using his Galaxy S4. The taxi suddenly stopped and two men armed with guns and knives jumped into the taxi from both sides. The taxi then continued moving. His quick reactions allowed him to escape by jumping out a window while the taxi was moving. He showed me his scrapes and bruises. Unfortunately, he had to leave the phone behind, but he may have avoided being kidnapped.
I have another friend who has a brother whose entire bus was robbed of their phones at gunpoint.
I could go on. All of these instances have occurred in both poor and very nice areas, and the nature of this country is that utter poverty and extravagant wealth are often located side by side. It might sound like a hellhole, but most days are perfectly normal, and some are wonderful, even in a third-world country. You learn to live with the badness, but it still makes sense to take proactive measures just in case.
There are other measures I can take as well: I usually use a much cheaper "decoy" phone in public. I try to ride the metro more than taxis and taxis more than buses. I try to always keep my valuables in a bag in front of me instead of in my pockets. When riding a taxi, I try to always make a note of the taxi number and lock all the doors from the inside. But you can't seriously blow me off and tell me to be 100% vigilant all the time. Sometimes I forget one of these precautions because I am in a rush or my mind is preoccupied with other things. And the nature of the modern world dictates that I use my phone constantly throughout the day, for both professional and social reasons, just as I am sure you do.
The fact is the probability that my phone will get stolen here is much higher than in other places, even if I am not careless with where I leave the phone, because people are seeking to actively rob others, and it is extremely unrealistic to expect that I keep my guard up 100% of the time.
Additionally, my work involves frequent travel, and requires me to do lots of work and communication on the internet. Therefore, a fast, powerful smartphone is a necessity for me to put bread in my mouth.
Now, you may understand why my perspective is that the security features on my costly and essential phone are so important. Your perspective is probably from some rich, relatively safe country in Europe, the USA, or Asia. I hope I have educated you on the fact that the world does not revolve around your socioeconomic situation.
I will be honest and say that your post irritated me, but I have tried to keep my post civil and explain why your response is pretentious and insulated idealism. If you still want to lecture me from your world about how I can magically solve the problems of my very different and more dangerous world by simply being "cautious", I will have just two very small words to gift you.
Good God, can we please stay on topic of this fantastic Rom and what's coming soon?!
If you have issues with how HTC have developed their phone, please take it to the Questions & Answers section ?
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My moto X suddenly died

Hi!
This is the first time I post a thread on xda since I had my Xperia Arc .. good times. Then I switched to Windows Phone and a couple months ago I returned to android with a Moto X 2nd gen.
I never installed a mod, rom or even unlocked the bootloader or root my phone, I really wanted only use my phone for my regular tasks.
The problem is today I was going to check my messages and the screen won't turn on, I supposed it was the battery so I pluged my phone to the power source and.. nothing.. It's just dead :/
I connected my phone to my PC to see if I can see any signal of life and I've noticed when I plug my phone to my PC and press and hold the power button a green led turns on for 2 -3 seconds and then dies again .. My PC can't detect the phone , I just get "unknown device"...
The phone was new or used before you?
If it was used perhaps you need a new battery. If it was new you must go at motorola service center to fix it by your warranty.
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The phone was new or used before you?
If it was used perhaps you need a new battery. If it was new you must go at motorola service center to fix it by your warranty.
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It was new, I ordered from the page .. that's sad
Have you already tried volume down + power?
Flipz77 said:
Have you already tried volume down + power?
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yep, I've tried many combinations like press and hold volume down then press and hold both volume - and power for 2 minutes .. and nothing..
Is just strange, no idea why this happened !!! ..
Tomorrow I will call support and see what happens
Plug it into the charger overnight. Check it in the morning. Try holding out Vol +, Vol - and power for 30 sends.
So is support willing to help you? When my Moto X suddenly died they didn't want to help me...
Support..?? Really.. I will tell u something... I wanted to contact them through email and checked web site, so I could see contact us options - but when I checked that the link was broken... So I decided to get to service support chat.. But u know what they said..?. They can't five me their e mail....what..?. Seriously?? They can't give something that I can't access but it's publicly posted... They are waste.. Don't waste ur time on them..
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Sorry to hear about your phone.
I'd be interested to hear the outcome of this..
The same thing happened to my MotoX. After months of discussions with Moto Support I ended up getting the phone repaired "outside of warranty". They refused to cover the repair because I had moved to Australia. (ridiculous for a 'global' company.)
After paying a huge amount to repair the phone, I booted it up and realized they had replaced the 'main board' with the wrong part. My 32gb phone was now a 16gb model.. The repair cost me more than a brand new 16gb model off the shelf!
I've tried to contact moto to resolve the issue but have had radio silence from motorola and the repair center ever since.
I hope you have better luck, and more free time to keep hounding them than I did...

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