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At the moment, I own an LG Nexus 4 but I think it's time to move on. The Nexus 5 isn't very attractive to me and the Bamboo Moto X really tickles my fancy. My wife has a Moto X and it's so smooth, but I only have one concern. The screen has this yellow-ish tint to it. Yes yes I know that it's AMOLED, but on my old AMOLED device I had the ability to switch colors (Galaxy SIII). On the Nexus 4 also, but I wanted to know if there's any possible way I can tweak the colors on this device. That yellow tint just bothers me, especially when opening Chrome, I could get used to it, but I plan on rooting my Moto X and I was just curious if anyone is aware of methods to change the screen colors to be, you know, not so warm.
No yellowish tint here. My RAZR seemed to have a slightly yellowish tint but this one seems more reminiscent of my GNex which was a much cooler tint where greys looked purple at certain brightness settings.
Generally I believe to alter the screen colors requires a custom kernel. Faux and I *think* lean kernel had that ability on the GNex. There's only one custom kernel for the MX and I don't think it allows you to alter the screen tint.
I'm not sure, but maybe the optimization of the cores and low power cores is keeping developers from producing custom kernels, but that's just a guess.
Coming myself from a Nexus 4 I did immediately notice the different hues in the screen color, and I wasn't such a fan of it, but after a week I found that I actually prefer the AMOLED display of the Moto X. I understand your concern, however I don't notice any yellow tinge to the screen.
Overall the AMOLED screen truly is beautiful so I don't think you need to worry too much. The contrast and the darks look amazing. Obviously not 1080p but amazing none the less.
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First off, I find the MotoX to have the best calibrated AMOLED manufactured screen I've seen. The yellow you're talking about, unless your wife phone have a poorly calibrated one, I find mine to be very close to 6500K in temperature, this is the ideal value. The white level is very good , just slightly warm. I also like that the screen is only a little saturated and not over blown like other AMOLED screens making them totally unrealistic.
If you are used to blue tint displays, that is not the correct color calibration, but you can find that in a lot of LCD type screens.
As for tweaking the display colors, you're going to have to hope for something like a Faux kernel, I'm not sure it's going to happen. Seems like the Moto G is much more developer friendly.
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I noticed this as well, I have a G2 with an LCD and compared it to the Moto X and while my G2 had white whites, the Moto X had yellow whites. If there is no way to fix it, I'm hoping that I'll slowly adjust to it.
My Moto X screen looks too yellowish compared to other LCD display phones like Nexus, iPhone's etc. Is it the issue with Moto X's Amoled display or something is wrong with my device?
What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
That being said, I have gone though 2 Moto Xs and the first one came with a very poorly calibrated display and a gross greenish tint. My second one was much better, but I returned it for other reasons, future burn in being one of them. Burn in is different from the problem you're seeing and can best be described as bad tan lines. Some areas of the screen will have different brightness (mostly the nav and notification areas) and it will be obvious when you switch to landscape mode that something isn't right.
If you think something is wrong with your screen and still have a valid warranty, give Motorola a call and let them know about it. They seem to be pretty good about making things right.
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Jayrod1980 said:
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Frankly, it's just a case of not taking care of the fact that we're using OLED tech which is sensitive to static images much like Plasma tech. If you're on Kitkat and use transparent bars like most of us: I can't imagine how anyone could suffer from burn-in that won't go away with time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
But I did not keep it long enough to notice burn.
No burn in here, but I use fullscreen so I don't have a notification or navigation bar.
makakalo said:
What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
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This is absolutely wrong, no offence. IPS displays do not have any cooler colour temperature! They are less saturated than AMOLED displays mostly, and thus the colours look less vibrant, or more accurate if you will. At the same time they will look extremely dull / pale. If possible just look at the S5's display, it has the best white I have seen in a while, neither yellowish or bluish, near perfect.
And yes, I agree with OP, there is a slight Yellowish tint on mine. This reminds me of the the Galaxy S2's display panel. There is nothing you can do other than getting adjusted with it, but you can try increasing the Blue bias of the screen, to something like +3 or +4. There is an app called Screen Adjuster on Google Play to do that. I am using that now, never thought I would have to use it again since S2 days. By increasing the Blue bias the screen will look little "cooler", the Yellowish white will become Bluish white.
This has nothing to do with burn in by the way.
I should have been more clear about that. It's the backlight source that affects color temp the most. Since most IPS displays use white LEDs for backlighting they appear cooler than many (not all) AMOLED panels and older TN displays using CCFLs. Since the individual pixels are their own backlight with AMOLED there is more variability in color reproduction depending on use and calibration.
And it does have something to do with burn-in. If you have a mostly blue background then those subpixels will see more use than the red and green subpixels. Once the blue subpixels fade enough you're left with a yellow tinted screen. It's not burn-in in the traditional CRT sense, but it's still uneven wear. IMO: The small perks of Active Display are not worth having a screen that can be damaged by normal use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404256
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I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
rishi.gohil said:
I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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It can be. There's a member around who got like 4 replacements or something....all with different degrees of it.
I find you don't notice it after a bit.... Unless you put 2 phones side by side.
Personally it doesn't bother me....it would if it was too yellow. I find the dimmer the screen, the more you notice it also.
My first moto x I had since October got burn in around January. I got a new one in June and I have burn in again. It isn't enough to warrant another replacement (yet).
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
i've always used gravitybox to give the statusbar a grayish color instead of black (and here lately the tinted statusbar xposed module) and keep it in expanded desktop with pie controls, so there's no nav bar, and not seeing any burn issues yet, had it since Dec. the horrifically bad burn in on my note 2 is what made me want to be extra careful with the x.
No burn in here after 7 months on mine nor my sister's Moto X.
fargles said:
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
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Burn in is common in amoled type displays, specifically on phones such that rely on a nav bar instead of capacitive buttons. The longer the screen is on, or the higher the brightness, the bigger the possibility for screen burn in . Out of the three amoled phones I have owned, the two that have burnt in both had on screen nav bars. I hope this (non technical) summary helps
I noticed the whites on this screen, even at full brightness, are rather dingy or at best have an excessive "warm" color to them. I noticed the same on my old X and was hoping a year later I wouldn't get the same thing but here it is. The following pic is my new X (left) next to my G2 (right), both at full brightness. Wondering if every X is like this and its something I'll have to get used to all over again or did I get a bad screen?
My understanding is that AMOLED displays are warmer to begin with. I don't have anything to compare it to, but this is what 100% brightness looks like on my PE:
Edit: it just occured to me that a screenshot may not be the way to accurately show how a display looks, but the amount of whiteness is representative of what I see looking at the screen myself.
If you don't compare it to other screens you'll never notice. If it's not white enough? Are we being a little too picky? It's amoled... Welcome to the party... Enjoy the phone, it's awesome.
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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Both are true.. But I don't have any issues on my device..
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Both are true.. But I don't have any issues on my device..
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I saw some videos on youtube and they said inverting colors from time to time for a certin amount of time helps. This is true?
Svid said:
I saw some videos on youtube and they said inverting colors from time to time for a certin amount of time helps. This is true?
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Also true..
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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The at&t variant I personally own never gave me these issues. I have read the pink tint issues were associated with the adaptive /automatic brightness enabled?! Yet, on mine I saw no pink with it enabled or disabled.
And there are videos on YT showing burn in. It is basically the soft keys at the bottom. Triangle, circle, and the square are the culprits. But again no issues for me.
Now the very 1st day my phone did a random reboot on me - twice! But, as soon as I unlocked bootloader, rooted it, and used a custom recovery the reboots never surfaced again! Go figure?! And the nexus 6 is definately the fastest performing phone I owned yet
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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AMOLED's can all have that issue, but I personally have never seen it happen (I have had a gnex for almost 2 years which used AMOLED and doesn't have burn-in). The pink "issue" isn't really an issue, google allowed the screen brightness to go extremely dark on the N6. This causes the screen to take on a pink tint simply due to the way amoled's function at that low a brightness. The screen does have a warmer hue to it as well because it is AMOLED, but you can use a custom kernel to tweak RGB values and give the screen a cooler tint. Hope that helps
gambit07 said:
AMOLED's can all have that issue, but I personally have never seen it happen (I have had a gnex for almost 2 years which used AMOLED and doesn't have burn-in). The pink "issue" isn't really an issue, google allowed the screen brightness to go extremely dark on the N6. This causes the screen to take on a pink tint simply due to the way amoled's function at that low a brightness. The screen does have a warmer hue to it as well because it is AMOLED, but you can use a custom kernel to tweak RGB values and give the screen a cooler tint. Hope that helps
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Thank you for that useful information mate.
So, all AMOLED's, regardless if it's the N6 or not, suffer from this issue?
Svid said:
Thank you for that useful information mate.
So, all AMOLED's, regardless if it's the N6 or not, suffer from this issue?
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That is correct, all AMOLED's are susceptible to this because of the O in AMOLED, which stands for Organic. The organic compounds that are used in these screens are susceptible to burn in due to the fact that the organic compounds degrade with a lot of use. Of the RGB subpixels, Blue subpixels degrade quickest. However, the N6 uses a Pentile pixel arrangement. This has upsides and downsides, but it is actually an upside as far as this issue is concerned, because the Pentile layout contains less blue subpixels, so there is less susceptibility to burn in.
If you want to combat this issue further, you can use blacked out google apps, and use ROM's with blacked out system options, use a mostly black wallpaper, etc. This is because on an AMOLED screen when the screen is black, the pixels are not displaying any light and thus are not degrading at all. This should reduce your chances of running into the issue. It will also save battery life since the screen is not using as much energy. That is one of the upsides to AMOLED screens, along with the very dark blacks you get in movies and games for the same reason (pixels are not lighting at all). Like I said, I've used other AMOLED screens and not run into this problem as of yet, to my understanding it should take years before you start to see burn in even with normal use. Some people say they have issues right away but that has not been my experience.
All screens of any technology are correctly color calibrated at a given brightness and are very far off at extremes. With an LCD, it will generally be too blue at high brightness and not blue enough at low brightness. That is because the backlights are never a 6500K source. They are basically always bluer than standard.
The Note 4, to pick an AMOLED example, does not get red at very low brightness, but that is because it (according to others) has a higher minimum brightness. My screen takes on a red tint when in a dark room with adaptive brightness enabled if I have the brightness slider set below about 30%. I consider this a handy feature since I don't like the feeling of staring into a light bulb.
Above about 30%, or in a room with a light on, the screen stays normal for me.
I have not seen thecpink issue on my N6 at all.
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That is correct, all AMOLED's are susceptible to this because of the O in AMOLED, which stands for Organic. The organic compounds that are used in these screens are susceptible to burn in due to the fact that the organic compounds degrade with a lot of use. Of the RGB subpixels, Blue subpixels degrade quickest. However, the N6 uses a Pentile pixel arrangement. This has upsides and downsides, but it is actually an upside as far as this issue is concerned, because the Pentile layout contains less blue subpixels, so there is less susceptibility to burn in.
If you want to combat this issue further, you can use blacked out google apps, and use ROM's with blacked out system options, use a mostly black wallpaper, etc. This is because on an AMOLED screen when the screen is black, the pixels are not displaying any light and thus are not degrading at all. This should reduce your chances of running into the issue. It will also save battery life since the screen is not using as much energy. That is one of the upsides to AMOLED screens, along with the very dark blacks you get in movies and games for the same reason (pixels are not lighting at all). Like I said, I've used other AMOLED screens and not run into this problem as of yet, to my understanding it should take years before you start to see burn in even with normal use. Some people say they have issues right away but that has not been my experience.
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Not sure about the bottom paragraph, surely you mean inverted colours? Also If you use a mostly black wallpaper you're more likely go get burn in because the pixels around navigation buttons aren't on at all and are thus not degrading whilst the navigation buttons are fully on and are degrading.
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letom said:
Not sure about the bottom paragraph, surely you mean inverted colours? Also If you use a mostly black wallpaper you're more likely go get burn in because the pixels around navigation buttons aren't on at all and are thus not degrading whilst the navigation buttons are fully on and are degrading.
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Inverted, blacked out, I don't think there's a difference. The button icons themselves will eventually burn in because they are almost always on unless you opt for pie like controls, but like I said that should be over a span of years. A black background will keep everything else from wearing faster though and should give you better battery performance.
I have had the phone for a week now and have not seen either of these issues. I do keep my screen fairly dim, like minimum brightness PLUS a screen dimmer for the nights and early mornings. I do not see any pink what so ever with adaptive brightness off and the minimum setting for brightness. I only turn the screen up when outdoors. I don't know I just find the screen really bright while indoors and I would assume burn in would be more susceptible with higher brightness
So i can safely buy the device right?
Anyway i have to order the phone overseas (No 64GB avalible in my country and the price tag too high anyway).
So my partner has a new iPhone 6s Plus and the clarity of his screen has me envious.
Checked the specs on GMS the N6 has more pixels and a higher density %, so what gives?
Is it the AMOLED screen? Is it possible to get that level of clarity?
Do you have a screen protector on? Those can make display look fuzzy, especially the anti-glare protectors.
my n6 screen is much more crisp than an I phones..
I suggest doing two things,
1- With a custom kernel, pick a color profile that fits you; and/or
2- Download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget
exekias said:
So my partner has a new iPhone 6s Plus and the clarity of his screen has me envious.
Checked the specs on GMS the N6 has more pixels and a higher density %, so what gives?
Is it the AMOLED screen? Is it possible to get that level of clarity?
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Yes, kind of.
AMOLED is... visually TERRIBLE. There are two advantages it has over a conventional LCD; (1) lower power consumption -- black pixels are actually switched off. (2) no backlight means no light bleeding through "black", in other words, black is more black on an AMOLED than an LCD.
The other part of it is that AMOLED actually *CHEATS* on its resolution claims. Something called an "RGBG subpixel matrix". The "RGBG" part is particularly important, since it describes the actual layout of the R, G, and B pixels -- for Red, Green, and Blue. Notice that there are twice as many G's as R's or B's.... Right. Its only 2560x1440 in GREEN. The Red and Blue are each only 2560x720. THAT is why the higher pixel density LOOKS less sharp than the apple LCD. You can thank samsung for that one, AMOLED is their tech.
So for the question about whether or not you can get that same (or better) clarity of of a Nexus 6... sure, if the image is ALL GREEN.
Edit: These are the Android phone's I've owned, in chronological order;
2008: HTC Dream, 480x320 LCD -- reasonable, given the low resolution.
2010: HTC Vision, 800x480 LCD -- at its time, absolutely stunning. Still "pleasant".
2012: Samsung Relay, 800x480 AMOLED -- if looking at something could cause your eyes to bleed, this would have done just that. Absolutely the WORST display imaginable. I had MUCH higher hopes for it, given all the "good" I'd heard about AMOLED and how "crisp" and "high contrast" they were supposed to be. That it could be dramatically WORSE than the 480x320 on the HTC Dream was stunning. I was expecting it to at least be "close" to the HTC Vision.
2015: Nexus 6, 2560x1440 AMOLED -- while visually the best so far, it is only because of the absurdly high number of pixels. So many that it has a significant negative impact on graphic performance. I would gladly sacrifice a little bit of battery and contrast to get the performance of 1920x1080.
turn up your brightness, N6's screen looks terrible at low brightness unless you have a kcal kernel to adjust the colors (stock warm colors look fuzzier imo compared to cool colors). The iphone having a LCD makes it look basically the same at any brightness at least color and sharpness-wise.
iphone is crisp because of its tech..
but i love nexus more..
i dont adore the nexus because of its screen but i love android because its an ANDROID
Honestly, I'm just getting old. I think the Nexus 6 screen is perfectly fine - crisp and clear.