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It's Official: Note 4 Edge US availability 11/14

[Update] Samsung Galaxy Note Edge officially heads to US November 14th
Still a Note 3 owner myself, just wondering about the perspective on this device from those who already have it's more popular brother in their hands. Whatcha'll think?
I do plan on upgrading, but am not in a huge rush (well, actually I stopped by the T mo store yesterday to take care of some other business, and asked a really cool guy whose helped me out a lot if they had N4's in stock. He said they did have a few black ones, and I left kind of pissed that I wasn't taking one home, but then saw that @dwitherell had just posted an update for Tweaked! Whew, being a "cellular communications and computing device enthusiast" can be quite the emotional roller coaster!)
If the Note Edge ends up not being as much of a niche device as is expected, and has a decent accessory selection, and most importantly solid development, I 'd definitely consider grabbing one. I can think of several pretty killer uses for that sidebar (assuming that there's a way to completely customize it. Additionally, I wonder if it's only "compatible" with the TW launcher?... I wonder if it would lose functionality with Nova for ex.?
Well, there are a few thoughts from someone who hasn't yet upgraded; I'd be extremely interested to hear some from those who have

It won't be a hit simply because it is set up to fail. Samsung already said they were not shipping or building many units. Development here is usually dependent on the popularity of the device. Since there won't be many out there it will fail.

I skipped on the Note Edge due to built in battery. I ended up getting Note 4
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Those bastards at Samsung and all the electronic press made me believe that the Edge will be a very limited production. Now looking at the press releases I see that it will have a full and proper release like the note 4. The only reason I didn't get the edge was because I thought I wouldn't be able to get it on contract. Now i am stuck with a Note 4, when all I really wanted from day 1 was the Note Edge. So extremely frustrated and upset right now.

Actually, we have note edge personal thread so it won't mixed up with the note 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge

ozaghloul said:
Those bastards at Samsung and all the electronic press made me believe that the Edge will be a very limited production. Now looking at the press releases I see that it will have a full and proper release like the note 4. The only reason I didn't get the edge was because I thought I wouldn't be able to get it on contract. Now i am stuck with a Note 4, when all I really wanted from day 1 was the Note Edge. So extremely frustrated and upset right now.
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Maybe someone from your carrier will trade with you

we cant even buy Edge here
jazzmachine said:
Still a Note 3 owner myself, just wondering about the perspective on this device from those who already have it's more popular brother in their hands. Whatcha'll think?
I do plan on upgrading, but am not in a huge rush (well, actually I stopped by the T mo store yesterday to take care of some other business, and asked a really cool guy whose helped me out a lot if they had N4's in stock. He said they did have a few black ones, and I left kind of pissed that I wasn't taking one home, but then saw that @dwitherell had just posted an update for Tweaked! Whew, being a "cellular communications and computing device enthusiast" can be quite the emotional roller coaster!)
If the Note Edge ends up not being as much of a niche device as is expected, and has a decent accessory selection, and most importantly solid development, I 'd definitely consider grabbing one. I can think of several pretty killer uses for that sidebar (assuming that there's a way to completely customize it. Additionally, I wonder if it's only "compatible" with the TW launcher?... I wonder if it would lose functionality with Nova for ex.?
Well, there are a few thoughts from someone who hasn't yet upgraded; I'd be extremely interested to hear some from those who have
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Here in Pakistan, availability of Note 4 Edge is like none. so had to go with Note 4.

they must make a lefthander edition...
that s why I choose the Note 4

Note 4 vs Note Edge

Anybody thinking about trading up their Note 4 for a Note Edge? If so, why? If not, why not?

Nope, because im not about to pay 200+ for a 2 inch screen on the side that will be nothing more than a distraction lol. Imagine flashing aosp on that thing (for those who like aosp lol) Will either have a useless 2 inch hanging on the side or a loopy screen.
Also, it is EXACTLY like the note 4 with nothing special. Note 4 regular look more comfortable to hold for me and with the note 4 reg having screen protection issue, i can't even begin to imagine how the edge will be. Also case issues, i do not want to imagine how that will work out.
overall, i just can't justify payng 1000+ for that just because one side of it is bent lol. 800 on my reg note 4 is pushing my budget.

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Nope, because im not about to pay 200+ for a 2 inch screen on the side that will be nothing more than a distraction lol. Imagine flashing aosp on that thing (for those who like aosp lol) Will either have a useless 2 inch hanging on the side or a loopy screen.
Also, it is EXACTLY like the note 4 with nothing special. Note 4 regular look more comfortable to hold for me and with the note 4 reg having screen protection issue, i can't even begin to imagine how the edge will be. Also case issues, i do not want to imagine how that will work out.
overall, i just can't justify payng 1000+ for that just because one side of it is bent lol. 800 on my reg note 4 is pushing my budget.
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Also, I figure so few folks will go for it, the rom scene and root will probably be "light"
and if you are at all interested in the VR attachment, it does NOT work on the edge.
Plus getting a screen protector or case is going to be very hard.

Might have decided on the Note Edge had it came out at the same time as the standard but probably not now. Will wait and see what the Note 5 brings to the table.
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Might have decided on the Note Edge had it came out at the same time as the standard but probably not now. Will wait and see what the Note 5 brings to the table.
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Theres that as well. I can understand if you upgraded straight to it you know? But why get the Note 4, just to go get the edge after...just make no sense to me

mgbotoe said:
Nope, because im not about to pay 200+ for a 2 inch screen on the side that will be nothing more than a distraction lol. Imagine flashing aosp on that thing (for those who like aosp lol) Will either have a useless 2 inch hanging on the side or a loopy screen.
Also, it is EXACTLY like the note 4 with nothing special. Note 4 regular look more comfortable to hold for me and with the note 4 reg having screen protection issue, i can't even begin to imagine how the edge will be. Also case issues, i do not want to imagine how that will work out.
overall, i just can't justify payng 1000+ for that just because one side of it is bent lol. 800 on my reg note 4 is pushing my budget.
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Well put! Lol I agree. My wife may want it so I might have to find her note 4 a new home. She doesn't flash roms and loves touchwiz

Compusmurf said:
Also, I figure so few folks will go for it, the rom scene and root will probably be "light"
and if you are at all interested in the VR attachment, it does NOT work on the edge.
Plus getting a screen protector or case is going to be very hard.
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That's what thought about too. The cases might be terrible as far as protection goes.

It looks interesting but I wouldn't pay extra money for some beta feature that I'm never gonna use.

Doesn't the screen just run @ 2560x1600 if the ROM doesn't support the "Edge" part of the LCD in the way Sammy is using it? Or is the 160 pixel area physically separate?

Nope. I played with in BB and it was more distraction than usefulness. 80% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I don't need additional screen. Most importantly for me that Edge is not compatible with VR Gear.
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I have had the Note 4 since launch day and I think I'm going to JUMP to the Note Edge next week (I'm on JUMP 1.0 and I already checked, it pays off the $718 I have still owe on the Note 4)
I like the idea of the Edge. The extra $100 isn't a big deal to me.

ingenious247 said:
I have had the Note 4 since launch day and I think I'm going to JUMP to the Note Edge next week (I'm on JUMP 1.0 and I already checked, it pays off the $718 I have still owe on the Note 4)
I like the idea of the Edge. The extra $100 isn't a big deal to me.
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They told my wife she had to wait til April and she's on the original jump 1

Note 4 to the note 4 edge seems like a waste of time and money, If you already have a note 4 it makes no sense to jump for the edge. The is a niche device at best and I honestly don't see how samsung thought it was a good idea.

There are some posts in international section from people who use it for a while and they say that is very easy to chip "sharp" edge of a phone.
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ingenious247 said:
I have had the Note 4 since launch day and I think I'm going to JUMP to the Note Edge next week (I'm on JUMP 1.0 and I already checked, it pays off the $718 I have still owe on the Note 4)
I like the idea of the Edge. The extra $100 isn't a big deal to me.
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If that's really how you feel, you should buy a Gear Fit for $129 so you get to see the screen a little more often before it gets dinged up and you realize you just paid $100 to
lose hardware options
lose developer support
have an extra 1/8 inch of screen space (without enabling immersive mode) that can only be used to tell you about your most recent spam email or text that you have to open on the main screen
allows you to see your notifications better when the phone is on the table but accidentally hit them every time you go to hold the phone in your hand.
It's a neat gimmick, but not intended for serious users. It is for the user whom "doesn't flash roms and loves touchwiz" as something to show off, not work on.

[Q] Should I get a Note 4?

Thinking about picking this up this week. You guys liking it so far?
Vote the poll up top

Best phone ever but if you want to root and rom only T-mobile or Sprint are available.

I love mine.

johntuck77 said:
Best phone ever but if you want to root and rom only T-mobile or Sprint are available.
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Yea I am on T-Mo. I never seen a Att phone thread so empty before.

They think they are protecting their phones when in reality it only drives customers away because most people that root their phones actually know what they are doing and it rarely causes problems. Let's see what happens to them with such an attitude towards customers

johntuck77 said:
They think they are protecting their phones when in reality it only drives customers away because most people that root their phones actually know what they are doing and it rarely causes problems. Let's see what happens to them with such an attitude towards customers
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I assume most Att customer that wants a Note 4 will just buy a unlocked Tmo version.

I've never had/seen a better phone.

I have a GN4 on TMO. Have been experiencing download lags on the 4G network. Not sure if it's the phone or the network. Anyone else having similar issues ?

I bought 2 for myself. My gf has one, too.
My sister has one, as well.

I love mine. My main gripes are the 2.5D glass and how the design on the front covers up the capacitive buttons/LED notification light.

At this point, I think you're late to the game (expecting response, lol). Might as well pick up the Galaxy S6 in the meantime until the Note 5 produces tears in our eyes.

I wouldn't say, "late to the game." Seems like things are just getting good. We just got official cm nightlies, and have a ton of roms.

arjun90 said:
At this point, I think you're late to the game (expecting response, lol). Might as well pick up the Galaxy S6 in the meantime until the Note 5 produces tears in our eyes.
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i considered waiting for S6 or even M9, but both will not be offering replaceable battery. They wont cost that much less than a note 4 either.

+1

That's a smart speculation based on the recent pictures leaked.
Does this mean the Note 4 is the last of Samsung's "Smart" Phones? :crying:
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i considered waiting for S6 or even M9, but both will not be offering replaceable battery. They wont cost that much less than a note 4 either.
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Hands down the best phone I've ever owned! Runs flawless stock.

Is it worth jumping to the s7

Do you think think its worth jumping to the s7 from the s6? what are your guys thought?

I'm thinking about it. I'm interested in the bigger battery, the IP67, and the return of the SD card.. Th IP67 is a big one for me.
However I'm also really interested in never spending that kind of money for a dang phone again, so there's that. I really like the Mi5 if we can ever get it, and I'd like to see Moto's next gen stuff. I almost went X pure instead of S6, but I didn't want that big of a phone.

It is a personal decision for sure but I have been on the Galaxy line since S3 and all of them right up to my current S6 have been rooted and absolute work horses with each subsequent phone being that much better.

Can someone explain to me how jump actually works? I have an s6 edge. If I trade it in for an s7 edge do they credit me something for my device? I put 200 down and paid another 200 towards the balance. I just don't want to be out 400 bucks only to start over.
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robogoflow said:
Can someone explain to me how jump actually works? I have an s6 edge. If I trade it in for an s7 edge do they credit me something for my device? I put 200 down and paid another 200 towards the balance. I just don't want to be out 400 bucks only to start over.
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Send me a private message. I just got an email from Tmo explaining it.

cwhiatt said:
Send me a private message. I just got an email from Tmo explaining it.
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can you send it to me as well. im in the same delimma, im already over 200 in and i dont want to start over on another phone. im also on Jump 1. you think its better to stay on it or go to on demand?

I think liquid cooling may be enough for me to jump on the band wagon. I also like the ip68 water resistant protection. As far as liquid cooling goes I find my s6 is to sluggish when temperature throttling kicks in. This is a huge flaw imo. It heats up too quickly especially since I am a multitasker. Also the gear vr is almost unusable because it turns into a pancake griddle after 10 min of use. This time I am going to see if the s7 will be a better fit.
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Jump on demand doc:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/D..._source=transactional&utm_campaign=Email_Tool

I'm really torn about upgrading to the s7 myself. Unfortunately, I opted out of the Jump program when I got my s6, so I'd have to sell my phone myself and can't trade it in.
Sammy's made all the right improvements in the s7.

It's very tempting for me but the removal of the ir blaster closed the deal for me :/
Honestly once we get mm on the s6 most of my quirks with the s6 will be gone and I'll be a happy customer once more. I might even try to put a s7 battery in my s6.
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Honestly, I am going to wait for like 3-4 months until after the s7 has been released. This way I can see if there is support for great custom ROMs like XtreStoLite or XtraLite as well as kernels like arter97. I wouldn't be able to bring myself to get a brand new phone without root, have to deal with bloat, and can't customize it with ROMs for months to come. Also, it's generally a good idea to get the newer devices a few months after launch so that many of the bugs can be ironed out. I prefer to have a flawless and bugless experience when upgrading phones!

I pre-ordered... A few reasons why...
1: I'm on Jump on Demand and have 3 trades left in 8 months
2: The preorder extras (GEAR VR and year of netflix)
3: The IP68 and memory card reader
Those are my main reasons for switching... mainly the Jump on demand, the rest is just extras on top

robogoflow said:
Can someone explain to me how jump actually works? I have an s6 edge. If I trade it in for an s7 edge do they credit me something for my device? I put 200 down and paid another 200 towards the balance. I just don't want to be out 400 bucks only to start over.
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It depends on which Jump version you are on. Theres V1, V2, and On Demand.
V1 is every 6 months you can trade it in, regardless of what you owe. They'll pay off the balance on your EIP.
V2 is every 12 months, and you have to have 50% of your phone paid off. They'll pay whatever is left of your EIP after that initial 50%.
On demand is the lease program. You can trade it in up to 3 times in any 18 month period. You don't technically own the phone so the whole EIP thing doesn't exist.
edit: just learned no IR on the S7.. Dangit Samsung, you've always got to screw up at least 1 thing!

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I'm thinking about it. I'm interested in the bigger battery, the IP67, and the return of the SD card.. Th IP67 is a big one for me.
However I'm also really interested in never spending that kind of money for a dang phone again, so there's that. I really like the Mi5 if we can ever get it, and I'd like to see Moto's next gen stuff. I almost went X pure instead of S6, but I didn't want that big of a phone.
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From someone that has theirs, it's well worth it. Of course this is all personal opinion.
If there's anything specific you want to know to help with your decision just ask and I'll answer.

Well tmobile. You held the update from us. You won. Just jumped to the s7.
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Gear VR
What I'd like to know is whether the Gear VR goggle that fits the S6 is also going to fit the S7??

cwhiatt said:
What I'd like to know is whether the Gear VR goggle that fits the S6 is also going to fit the S7??
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There are different ones? I thought they were the same. Anyway, yes it will fit. Side by side the S6 and S7 are the same size. The volume buttons are slightly lower by a few millimeters but that's it aside from the beveled edges and other very minor changes. I tried it in my S6 case and it fits (not as snug but it would work if I were in a dire need). I'll be picking up my VR's at the store tonight so I'll try my S6 in them... before I leave the store since I have to hand over the "old" phone.
I've loaded this phone with every benchmark app I can think of and it's coming out with double the marks of the S6. 3DMark running the Slingshot ES 3.1 test got 2555. The S6 gets around 1220. I'm at work so I can't type everything, plus this isn't my thread. That said, I assume you know to take benchmarks with a grain of salt. Even so having double the numbers speaks to the S7's capability on paper and under real stress. I'm done with my tangent now :silly:
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edit: just learned no IR on the S7.. Dangit Samsung, you've always got to screw up at least 1 thing!
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I think the tradeoff is having the ability to save photos in RAW

cwhiatt said:
What I'd like to know is whether the Gear VR goggle that fits the S6 is also going to fit the S7??
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It does. The S7 is nearly identical in size and dimensions to the S6. I played with one at Costco and was surprised at how identical it was. The only difference was the color. Fortunately I had my Gear VR in my bag (was letting coworkers test drive it that day) and was able to plug it in. Fits exactly like my current S6 edge. It prompted to download the software so I ejected it but it does work and fit.

Daistaar said:
It does. The S7 is nearly identical in size and dimensions to the S6. I played with one at Costco and was surprised at how identical it was. The only difference was the color. Fortunately I had my Gear VR in my bag (was letting coworkers test drive it that day) and was able to plug it in. Fits exactly like my current S6 edge. It prompted to download the software so I ejected it but it does work and fit.
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Right on. I haven't used mine too much other than to play smash hit.

KCRic said:
From someone that has theirs, it's well worth it. Of course this is all personal opinion.
If there's anything specific you want to know to help with your decision just ask and I'll answer.
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What did you get? the flat or the edge? after playing around with it for a while, is there any major difference that you notice or its essentially the same with some added features?
i got the 128 gb s6 so i dont really know if it worth change to a 32 gb with a micro sd.
one thing that annoys me about my phone is the texting. I have a lot of texts or if i text fast, theres lag on it and not fluid. you guys experience the same? any other texting apps that are better then stock?

S7 Edge

Am I the only one considering upgrading to the s7 edge? Only cons for me are going to a smaller screen (I think) and no micro usb c. The main reason I want it is the 3600 mah battery and snapdragon 820. The Nexus 6 has been great and I've had it for over a yr which isn't common for me heh. What are your opinions on the S7 edge?
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Don't think I can go back to a much smaller screen. I'd rather keep using the N6 as daily driver and wait for the 2016 Nexus or Moto X Pure.
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The screen size isn't as much an issue here as dealing with, in order of severity, locked bootloaders, Touchwiz, Knox, and bloatware. Not a good trade, and waiting for the next Nexus is the better option.

It has bloatware (Nova Launcher can hide this)
Locked bootloader, I have not rooted anything in ages.
My biggest pet peeve is that March next year you will be wondering when will you see Android N.
The next biggest pet peeve is the small screen.
Me I can wait 6 or 7 months and see what Nexus 2016 is like, hopefully they bring back Qi Charging.

Yeah 1 can only hope for it getting root, seeing as I have Verizon on top of that. I think it'll be nice not tinkering with my phone everyday. I'll more than likely get bored with it and go crazy not flashing anything. I could just get the S7E and if the new Nexus is worth it and just sell the Edge and pay the difference.
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Hi there!
I've had a Nexus 6 for the past few months. In-between I ran a S6 Edge for a few weeks. Here's a few points to look our for on the S7 Edge during my experiences on the S6 Edge.
1. Read up on how the battery lasts. The S6 Edge has (arguably) the most beautiful screen ever put onto a phone. The battery life was awful though, so to get through a day on minimal use I had to have adaptive brightness on down at the 20% mark. It really annoyed me that I had this glorious screen I couldn't use in case my battery was all used before I even made it to work in the morning!
2. Check to see if the Edge apps functionality has improved. I had Lollipop on it when I first purchased it. The Edge apps were completely redundant. I could add callers and extra apps (nothing that a 3rd party browser couldn't add to the home screen), and also there was a swipe function to check weather etc that worked 50% of the time. I joined the beta programme for Marshmallow and the Edge apps hadn't really improved.
3. The lack of an unlocked bootloader, and the squeeze this had on development on the likes of XDA drove me a bit crazy. I use to be a bit of a flash addict, but have now settled down, but I still like to try new things every now and again even though I revert back to my favourites.
4. I missed the N6 screen size.
5. Touchwiz is vastly improved, but considering the spec differences I felt no speed differences between the S6 Edge and N6. (I don't play games on my phone so wouldn't know the difference between the 2 in more demanding tasks.)
6. The camera on the S6 Edge is stunning, and I can imagine will be better on the S7.
To summarise, I can imagine the S7 and S7 Edge being good phones. My advice if you were to choose one would be to go with the S7, as unless the software and functionality is massively improved, the S7 Edge won't justify the extra price.
And I much prefer my N6 over the S6 Edge...

Going to be a great phone. But the snails pace of updates, especially the security updates is a deal killer for me. I could live without mods and root but updates are an issue for me.
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S7 isn't even an option, screen size would be way too small. And it only has a 3000 mah battery vs the 3600 in the S7E.
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AstroDigital said:
It has bloatware (Nova Launcher can hide this)
Locked bootloader, I have not rooted anything in ages.
My biggest pet peeve is that March next year you will be wondering when will you see Android N.
The next biggest pet peeve is the small screen.
Me I can wait 6 or 7 months and see what Nexus 2016 is like, hopefully they bring back Qi Charging.
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I just read your response .... What do you gain from xda if you aren't rooting your phones and have your purchases guided by the disaster of all disasters --- a locked bootloader !! ???

I....actually wouldn't mind going to a smaller screen. While I greatly, and I mean, greatly enjoy the size of my N6, there are times where I wish that it was a tad smaller. As real life is consuming so much more of my spare time, I spend less time watching videos, rooting, and tinkering, and more time handling stuff for work or home. Specifically, using the camera to take pics of my children will be easier to quickly take out and handle a smaller phone.
However, as far as the S7 goes, it is coming to look like a beast, and I will be getting one for my wife...not me. TouchWiz is my Achilles' Heel. Always has been. I'm waiting for HTC's next iteration to see whether or not I want to take the plunge into a Samsung device for myself, or another Nexus. LG is out of the question. Their UI is just not my style.

Well, depending on your carrier, you likely are not going to be able to do much if you have Verizon or AT&T given that they both lock their bootloaders. I'll fully admit, last fall I WAS going to buy a Note 4, but it was sold out so I got the Nexus 6 instead. Turned out to be the best thing that ever happened. I remember having to chase down my specific build for my make and carrier, it wasn't just "Shamu" for everyone. Seems like every "non-Nexus" phone is one-misstep from "bricking" the device. No thanks. From accidentally downgrading the bootloader, to flashing the wrong firmware, etc, etc...............
Good experience and less headache with the Nexus. I'll never buy a non-Nexus phone again.

I might consider S7 Edge as well, looks to be perfect piece of hardware. I know i would get late updates with samsung but who cares, i don't remember a single update that brought better daily functions to my nexus 6 from google. For example, they didn't even bring slow motion video capture, no led light, no double tap to wake. There's nothing useful for daily usage in a nexus but instant empty updates. I don't care much if i am patched to february security in day one like if any hackers targeted me.

How long before a Verizon S7 edge gets rooted? Never????

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How long before a Verizon S7 edge gets rooted? Never????
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It took forever for the Verizon S5 to get rooted, the Verizon S6 Edge will probably never get rooted and same for the S7 Edge.
KNOX just keeps getting tougher.

All the more reason to avoid Samsung if you want to develop.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/bounty-verizon-note-4-root-whos-t2916685
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/bounty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
AT&T/Verizon Note 4 from early 2014 is still waiting for permanent root. Take a look at the bounties on post #1.
.......have fun

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/bounty-verizon-note-4-root-whos-t2916685
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/bounty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
AT&T/Verizon Note 4 from early 2014 is still waiting for permanent root. Take a look at the bounties on post #1.
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Good thing I sold mine to move to the Nexus.

I figure if I do get it, Verizon has a trade in promo where I can get 100 for trading in my old bionic. I'll put 300 down on the phone so the payments will be $20. Then I can sell my nexus for $200-300 and sell the free gear s2 for another $200-300. The phones pretty much paid off then. And I can sell my s7 edge need be if the new Nexus it worth it. Decisions decisions
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I would love a 6 edge, I love the design of the galaxy series since the s6 (minus useless home button) I especially love the silver. Now that it has a snapdragon 820 we might get some custom ROMs. Only real drawback is the price and having to increase my phone bill by $30+

Its not really that knox has gotten better but because those that have the knowledge on being able to bypass the locks hae sworn off of ever working on Samsung devices again.