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[Q] No 3G during phone call?!

While making a call on the EvoLTE i had 3G/LTE and i could still use the internet but on the HTC ONE this seems to be a problem even if i dont answer. My tethering will stop and my 3G will be disabled. Is it my ROM, Sprint, HTC or just me

The One does not have SV-DO like the EVO LTE did. They wanted the EVO to have SV-DO because Sprint's LTE network was still in its nascency when the phone came out and they thought that the ability to do voice and data simultaneously would ease their customers' complaints.
The One does not have this ability because both antennae can be used for LTE to minimize RF fade, which enables the One to have better LTE reception than the EVO did. The One does, however, feature SV-LTE, so you can do voice and data when connected to LTE.
Here is an article with a lot more info: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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HTC is stupid
OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?

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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid phone iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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Good luck with that; none of Sprint's phones feature SV-DO anymore. No, there is no way around this that I know of. Wow... and that's your first post on XDA.

Disgusting and a slap in the face to many by Sprint and HTC
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Good luck with that; none of Sprint's phones feature SV-DO anymore. No, there is no way around this that I know of. Wow... and that's your first post on XDA.
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#1 Yes its my first post but I've been a silent member and supporter for a few years now. #2 This should have been made clear and the fact that it passed by me shows it wasn't because I would have never gotten this phone if that was the case. #3 I'm not under any Sprint contract anymore and can go to AT&T where I'm sure GSM can deliver both voice and text quite nicely and with ease and that SG4 at least has removable storage unlike this dumb iphone wannabe. And last but not least #4 I just got off the phone with Sprint and they're sending me a free HTC EVO LTE for the bother and trouble they've caused me by being idiots for not having LTE towers in my area.
When everything switches to LTE everywhere around the country then only will this phone be perfect. Until then it sucks and I can't wait to get back to my sense 4.0 with my good ol' message,music,email,bookmark,and note widgets HTC were best known for back in their prime. After bragging how much this phone crapped over the SG4 and anything apple could ever put out I'm ashamed and disappointed in Sprint and HTC.

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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.

Lancerz said:
Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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Which is why I made Sprint send me a free new EVO LTE. Now I know I will always need a secondary phone until the year 2020 when LTE covers the globe. Knowing how slow Sprint is with their coverage and towers.

Lancerz said:
Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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i guess they figure it's not important w/ 4g being more ubiquitous. 4g and talk does work. I never use the feature myself.

smac7 said:
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i guess they figure it's not important w/ 4g being more ubiquitous. 4g and talk does work. I never use the feature myself.
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Yeah I don't see the big deal, it's a cool feature but nothin to get all crazy over. I wouldn't even want to be with Sprint if they didn't have 4g all over my city anyway because their 3g sucks big time.

Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.

Ok, let's break this down...
Android-X said:
#1 Yes its my first post but I've been a silent member and supporter for a few years now. #2 This should have been made clear and the fact that it passed by me shows it wasn't because I would have never gotten this phone if that was the case.
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The fact that you know how to flash ROMs and mod your phone does not mean you have done proper research. Obviously, people knew that the One was not going to be SV-DO before it came out, as evidenced by the article that I posted above. SV-DO was somewhat of a surprise feature on the EVO LTE and Galaxy S3 when they were first announced and the FCC filings were reviewed. Anyone who knew anything about CDMA should've known this, yourself included.
What concerns me further is the fact that you've been coming to XDA for years yet still make generalizations like this:
Android-X said:
#3 I'm not under any Sprint contract anymore and can go to AT&T where I'm sure GSM can deliver both voice and text quite nicely and with ease and that SG4 at least has removable storage unlike this dumb iphone wannabe.
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You're right, GSM will support voice and data on the SGS4, just like it would on a GSM HTC One. But really? Comparing the One to the iPhone? Yes, I do wish that it had external storage, but I'm getting along just fine without it. As an Android phone, however, it is just as customizable as the SGS4. But, what I'm curious about is why you even bothered with this phone if you spent so much time on XDA as you claimed above? Surely, you knew that this phone did not have expandable storage or a removeable battery, so I'm confused as to why you even mentioned those shortcomings here, to say nothing of actually buying the phone.
Android-X said:
And last but not least #4 I just got off the phone with Sprint and they're sending me a free HTC EVO LTE for the bother and trouble they've caused me by being idiots for not having LTE towers in my area.
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I might be misunderstanding this, but according to #3, you're not under a Sprint contract any longer, so why are they sending you a free EVO?
Android-X said:
When everything switches to LTE everywhere around the country then only will this phone be perfect. Until then it sucks and I can't wait to get back to my sense 4.0 with my good ol' message,music,email,bookmark,and note widgets HTC were best known for back in their prime. After bragging how much this phone crapped over the SG4 and anything apple could ever put out I'm ashamed and disappointed in Sprint and HTC.
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Again, I can understand the fundamental limits that Sprint's network currently imposes on the One, but I'm confused as to why you are blaming HTC.
Android-X said:
Which is why I made Sprint send me a free new EVO LTE. Now I know I will always need a secondary phone until the year 2020 when LTE covers the globe. Knowing how slow Sprint is with their coverage and towers.
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This is just outright confusing. You are clearly indicating that you plan on holding onto the EVO LTE until 2020. Do you know how useless your phone will be by then? If your battery manages to still be useful until then, the phone will be wildly outdated simply with respect to the frequencies it has access to. The EVO and One can only run on Sprint's 1900MHz LTE network. Sprint is currently rolling out LTE on their 800MHz and 2500MHz frequencies. Sprint will start selling tri-band phones optimized for all 3 of their LTE bands late this year/early next year (they're already selling hotspots for them). By then, a number of carriers (Sprint included) will be moving on to Vo-LTE making this entire issue moot. I don't even think Sprint will be transmitting 1xAdvanced by that point, so voice on the EVO LTE might not even work.
By the way, I see you've started to spread your disease to other threads, I'm going to be following you, cleaning up your mess.
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sauprankul said:
Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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With CDMA carriers adopting LTE, this will become less of an issue as all of Sprint's LTE phones support SV-LTE. Once Sprint transmits on all of its available spectrum, and once their network upgrades are complete, LTE will be pretty much everywhere that Sprint has 3G now. However, if you can't wait a year for their tri-band phones to come out, then you gotta do what you gotta do...

adios
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Android-X said:
OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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c ya :crying:

subhumanderelict said:
With CDMA carriers adopting LTE, this will become less of an issue as all of Sprint's LTE phones support SV-LTE. Once Sprint transmits on all of its available spectrum, and once their network upgrades are complete, LTE will be pretty much everywhere that Sprint has 3G now. However, if you can't wait a year for their tri-band phones to come out, then you gotta do what you gotta do...
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They tell me they'll have LTE everywhere they have 3G. But they don't have 3G anywhere! It's all name sake! Most of the time I can't even do a speed test!
Sprint has terrible coverage, even in huge covered markets like San Francisco. The speeds there were pathetic, ranging between 2 and 5 megs. If that's the best Sprint can do, while advertising speeds of around 20 megs, they should be sued for every dollar (or yen, I guess) they have.

sauprankul said:
They tell me they'll have LTE everywhere they have 3G. But they don't have 3G anywhere! It's all name sake! Most of the time I can't even do a speed test!
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I can't speak for San Francisco's network state, but if it is anything like Chicago was at your level of deployment, I can tell you that it's going to get a LOT better. EV-DO (3G) was BLAZING here between 2006-2009. Back then, I was regularly getting between 1-2Mbps, then it started dropping to 10-300Kbps (yes, 10Kbps). Now, when I don't get LTE (which isn't often now that Chicago is nearly done), my EV-DO is sill around 1Mbps, which is totally useable.
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Status: Partial LTE Launched/Full Builds Continuing
NV Sites Accepted = 69%
LTE Sites Accepted = 49%
Anticipated LTE Launch = Fall 2013 (North Bay launched 12/2012, East Bay 2/2013)
Original Scheduled Completion = July 2013
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SOURCE:http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
This is as of July 29. You should note that "LTE Sites Accepted" does not necessarily mean it's transmitting LTE yet, so the actual percentage is probably lower lower. This is where I have some trouble defending Sprint; they announce a market as "launched" when only a fraction of the towers are transmitting LTE.
Given the nature of LTE, it is a much more fragile airlink than EV-DO. Given the same frequency, LTE will drop before EV-DO does. That being said, 1900MHz LTE should be available around 80-90% of the places that 1900MHz EV-DO is. Once Sprint begins transmitting on 800MHz, the increased penetration means that LTE should be available everywhere 1900MHz EV-DO is now. So, if you're in a spot where you have the "3G" icon but you aren't able to get any data through, that means you're connected to a tower that has not received Network Vision upgrades. Once the NV upgrades are complete for 1900MHz, you should get useable 3G at a minimum. Once the tower starts transmitting LTE on 800MHz (assuming you have a compatible device by then), you should receive LTE.
SOURCE:http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1771-lte-700/?p=37464
sauprankul said:
Sprint has terrible coverage, even in huge covered markets like San Francisco. The speeds there were pathetic, ranging between 2 and 5 megs. If that's the best Sprint can do, while advertising speeds of around 20 megs, they should be sued for every dollar (or yen, I guess) they have.
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I'm assuming that 2-5Mbps is when you're connected to LTE, right? EV-DO Rev. A maxes out at a theoretical 3.2Mbps. I'm not really sure what you're doing that you need more than 2-5Mbps, but once all the backhaul is complete, you should be getting 6-8Mbps with low latency. Where did you get 20Mbps, just out of curiosity? I've never seen that number... The maximum theoretical throughput of Sprint's 1900MHz LTE on a 5x5 carrier is 37.5Mbps, though real-world should be what I said earlier.
SOURCE: http://gigaom.com/2012/07/16/sprint-launches-lte-in-clusters-promises-6-8-mbps-speeds/

sauprankul said:
Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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I wouldn't be on sprint if i wasn't on a large family plan (that i don't pay a dime for). When the time comes to pay for my own service, i'll probably go unlocked on T-mobile if they have good Chicagoland and Michigan coverage.

I love HTC phones (because of how clean sense is) and I love Sprint (for their unlimited data only). Heres what I hate about them both...Sprint is clearly the weakest out of all the carriers but they make up for it with unlimited data plans. For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*! Theres no way Sprint will have country wide coverage of their LTE service even in the next 5 years and if so it will be spotty as HELL. I think its a slap in the face to many of their loyal customers who still live in rural/farm/or dense suburb areas. I haven't seen anything this stupid since the unveil of XBOX ONE! Sprint better take a note from Microsoft and reverse this $hit very fast because when people come out of their 2 year contracts from the EVO LTE and SG3 they're gonna be pissed when they find out their new upgrades can't do what their old phones can.
Screw what you and I know now about the tech subhuman. The fact of the matter is the mass general consumers of Sprint have no idea about the tech inside the phone. They will just expect their new powerful phones to be able to do what their old phones use to do. For Sprint sake they better have LTE towers up every damn where in the year or all HELL will break loose. Sprint is going to lose a lot of costumers to AT&T.
Now onto the HTC hate. For some reason HTC keeps dropping the damn ball with their phones and software (sense). For every step they take forward they cut off a limb. The built in battery $hit and no SD card expansion are stupid things I've grown to make fun of Apple fanboys for but now I find myself on the other side of the fence because I trusted HTC to show Apple they could do exactly what they're doing and beat them in quality....HOW FOOLISH WAS I TO THINK THAT! The whole unibody thing is neat and the front speakers are amazing but thats where the HTC ONE stops becoming awesome. SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
I have 5 Sprint lines open and one of them is the new HTC ONE which is the only one under a new contract. I still have 8 days to cancel it if I choose to. I personally use 3 of the lines which are all rooted HTC phones. The original EVO 4G,EVO LTE,and now the ONE. Its amazing how the original EVO still has a better 3G connection than its newer cousins and can download files faster using wifi tether. It just pisses me off that Sprint didn't care enough to include all their handsets with their best 3G services (for voice and data) until they figured out all this stupid LTE placement.
Now thanks to Subhuman I'm more educated on all the frequencies and radios that go in these new phones vs the old. I know the phone is capable of sending text while on a call now but only on LTE. But I have a few questions/request that will help me determine if I will keep the HTC ONE now. As of right now I'm using the phone as a Windows 8 wannabe with the Launcher 8 app (I know, I know, I'm lame) Please help me out if you can.
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help

My Motorola photon q 4g lte was able to use 3g while on the phone. Seems like we're taking a step backwards, doesn't it?
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Android-X said:
For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*!
SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
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First the ability to talk and use data on 3G (SVDO) not being included had nothing to with Sprint or HTC. It's because Qualcomm changed that. Read that article from s4gru referenced earlier.
The general concesus was that Sense was to gaudy and intrusive, that was always what most people said in critism to HTC, Sense 5 changed alot to be smaller, less intrusive, and also conform more to Android (Googles) Holo look and feel. As such, lots of the widget were taken out, but most of the critics have been positive in reference to Sense 5.
1. Sense 4 widgets will not work on the Sense 5 framework and would require lots of work if they were even to ever work. No one seems willing to do that work since you are the first I've seen to want it.
2. I don't have a Media link, but do you have the H200 or H300. I H300 is the new one that came as a bonus on the AT&T preordered Ones. Maybe the problem is you are using the H200.
3. The One is USB 2.0 so maybe that's why? IDK
4. Are you running an adblock app? This has been linked to popping or skipping in Pandora.

raptoro07 said:
First the ability to talk and use data on 3G (SVDO) not being included had nothing to with Sprint or HTC. It's because Qualcomm changed that. Read that article from s4gru referenced earlier.
The general concesus was that Sense was to gaudy and intrusive, that was always what most people said in critism to HTC, Sense 5 changed alot to be smaller, less intrusive, and also conform more to Android (Googles) Holo look and feel. As such, lots of the widget were taken out, but most of the critics have been positive in reference to Sense 5.
1. Sense 4 widgets will not work on the Sense 5 framework and would require lots of work if they were even to ever work. No one seems willing to do that work since you are the first I've seen to want it.
2. I don't have a Media link, but do you have the H200 or H300. I H300 is the new one that came as a bonus on the AT&T preordered Ones. Maybe the problem is you are using the H200.
3. The One is USB 2.0 so maybe that's why? IDK
4. Are you running an adblock app? This has been linked to popping or skipping in Pandora.
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@1. You didn't like the ease of the Sense 4.0 widgets O_O wow?! As much as I hear people cry about the blinkfeed it would seem they would want proper widgets back. Anyway I'm no a dev and I'm hoping someone good like Flex360 or another dev would go through the trouble of making them work on SENSE 5.0 I'd donate a nice amount of money for something like that.
@2. I probably have the H200 but I did do an update last night so it should be on par with the 300 now.
@3. Maybe thats the reason but I just find it always slower to copy to the device that has built in storage rather than the device that has a removable sd card slot. Its like that slow Apple syncing crap from itunes. I really don't get why its like that even on other devices. I copied 1.90GB yesterday to the HTC ONE (pics,music,etc) it took about an hour to transfer. If I was transferring that same amount to an SD card (like in my EVO LTE) it would take 8-10 min the most.
@4. No I'm not running any kind of adblock I don't think unless Flex360's Stock with goodies rom has a native adblock built in.

Android-X said:
I love HTC phones (because of how clean sense is) and I love Sprint (for their unlimited data only). Heres what I hate about them both...Sprint is clearly the weakest out of all the carriers but they make up for it with unlimited data plans. For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*!
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Please, try to understand the reason WHY they no longer support SV-DO. Using multiple antennae for LTE will increase LTE reception. What’s better, spotty LTE with SV-DO or a solid LTE connection without SV-DO? Assume you're on a fringe LTE area.
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Theres no way Sprint will have country wide coverage of their LTE service even in the next 5 years and if so it will be spotty as HELL. I think its a slap in the face to many of their loyal customers who still live in rural/farm/or dense suburb areas. I haven't seen anything this stupid since the unveil of XBOX ONE! Sprint better take a note from Microsoft and reverse this $hit very fast because when people come out of their 2 year contracts from the EVO LTE and SG3 they're gonna be pissed when they find out their new upgrades can't do what their old phones can.
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Sprint will be done with round 1 of Network Vision by the end, if not the middle, of 2014. They started rolling out LTE in late 2011 and are currently done with just over half of their 39,000 sites. All but roughly 100 (0.25%) of those 39,000 sites will not receive LTE because of licensing agreements or regulatory issues. I’m sorry, but I can’t give you more details than that because I’m getting this information from the Sponsor section of S4GRU.com. As I said above, on 1900MHz alone, LTE will cover 80-90% of the places that you’re getting 3G. As for the places where you can get 3G but no useable speed, you will get useable 3G, but it will unfortunately lack SV-DO. By 2015, Sprint will have 800MHz LTE on about 80% of its 39,000 sites, increasing LTE penetration and covering pretty much everywhere that is now 3G.
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Screw what you and I know now about the tech subhuman. The fact of the matter is the mass general consumers of Sprint have no idea about the tech inside the phone. They will just expect their new powerful phones to be able to do what their old phones use to do. For Sprint sake they better have LTE towers up every damn where in the year or all HELL will break loose. Sprint is going to lose a lot of costumers to AT&T.
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Looking solely at a phone’s ability to do simultaneous voice and data, AT&T does have Sprint beat, but honestly, so few people actually use this that it will not be an issue. You seem to be an outlier, wanting to use your phone while tethering. How many of the “mass general customers” tether their phones? Most of the people that you’re talking about don’t even know what “tethering” is. Additionally, voice is being used less and less, which is why so many carriers are practically giving it away. For most people, the few minutes per day that people spend talking on their phones won’t impact their ability to use data because they’ll probably be walking or driving while talking. Once the LTE rollouts are complete, it will be a non-issue because all phones will support SV-LTE.
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Now onto the HTC hate. For some reason HTC keeps dropping the damn ball with their phones and software (sense). For every step they take forward they cut off a limb. The built in battery $hit and no SD card expansion are stupid things I've grown to make fun of Apple fanboys for but now I find myself on the other side of the fence because I trusted HTC to show Apple they could do exactly what they're doing and beat them in quality....HOW FOOLISH WAS I TO THINK THAT! The whole unibody thing is neat and the front speakers are amazing but thats where the HTC ONE stops becoming awesome.
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I can agree with you here to an extent. When I first made the jump from Windows Mobile (not Windows Phone) to back in 2010, I considered both the iPhone and Android. I hated the locked-down philosophy that Apple had both in terms of hardware and software. I very much dislike being denied the ability to expand storage or swap batteries.
Android-X said:
SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
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The word “elegance” implies tasteful and simple, generally speaking. If HTC were to continue piling on superfluous options, it would be at odds with elegance. I think HTC believes that there are now enough options in the Play store that they can back off and allow people to choose what they want from there. I think that Beautiful Widgets is itself a testament to HTC’s prior genius; those widgets are obviously inspired by Sense. Which widgets are you missing, exactly?
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I have 5 Sprint lines open and one of them is the new HTC ONE which is the only one under a new contract. I still have 8 days to cancel it if I choose to. I personally use 3 of the lines which are all rooted HTC phones. The original EVO 4G,EVO LTE,and now the ONE. Its amazing how the original EVO still has a better 3G connection than its newer cousins and can download files faster using wifi tether. It just pisses me off that Sprint didn't care enough to include all their handsets with their best 3G services (for voice and data) until they figured out all this stupid LTE placement.
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The difference in performance is a little strange, I will grant that. The One’s 3G connection should be at least on par with the original EVO. Personally, I have not noticed any difference, though my one is a clear step up from my EVO LTE.
Android-X said:
Now thanks to Subhuman I'm more educated on all the frequencies and radios that go in these new phones vs the old. I know the phone is capable of sending text while on a call now but only on LTE. But I have a few questions/request that will help me determine if I will keep the HTC ONE now. As of right now I'm using the phone as a Windows 8 wannabe with the Launcher 8 app (I know, I know, I'm lame) Please help me out if you can.
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The One is capable of sending a text while on a call without being connected to LTE, I just did it.
Android-X said:
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
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1.) It might be best to search the Play store for the specific widgets that you need.
2.) I’m sorry, but I am unfamiliar with Media Link.
3.) This is a hassle, and loading everything on the phone typically takes time. I just mount it as an external drive and copy/paste, then leave it for the 45 minutes or so that it needs. I’ve never used HTC Sync, but for my photos, I have it set up so that it auto-uploads to Dropbox every time I connect to my Wi-Fi.
4.) This happens to me as well on YouTube, typically on slower connections. I think it has something to do with the buffering and/or compression.
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My Motorola photon q 4g lte was able to use 3g while on the phone. Seems like we're taking a step backwards, doesn't it?
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The Photon Q was another phone that supported SV-DO, so all these arguments apply to that phone as well.

Verizon VoLTE

Just read about Verizons VoLTE rolling out soon finally. This enables much clearer calls and a new feature that actually might make me switch back to stock. Video Calls. i know we can do this with skype and oovoo and such but it will make it significantly easier to talk to loved ones that aren't on top of technology with native video calling in the dialer.
Are you excited for this feature? Don't care? Who really makes calls anymore anyways?
The Verge: Verizon announces initial rollout of VoLTE, HD voice for the 'coming weeks' http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwl6Odsx8

Dri94 said:
Just read about Verizons VoLTE rolling out soon finally. This enables much clearer calls and a new feature that actually might make me switch back to stock. Video Calls. i know we can do this with skype and oovoo and such but it will make it significantly easier to talk to loved ones that aren't on top of technology with native video calling in the dialer.
Are you excited for this feature? Don't care? Who really makes calls anymore anyways?
The Verge: Verizon announces initial rollout of VoLTE, HD voice for the 'coming weeks' http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwl6Odsx8
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Saw that today, and my only response is... WTF? only works for verizon to verizon calls??? The call quality on verizon sucks big time - the bit-starved vocoder that they use is atrocious. Dare I say it, AMPS had better sound quality than the crap Verizon uses now. I have been hoping that the VoLTE would bring them at least on par with GSM call quality, but limiting it to only other verizon cellular customers is a joke. This may get the iphone uses all wet, hoping to surf and take a call simultaneously, but for most, it will turn out to be more fluff than substance....
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tedkunich said:
Saw that today, and my only response is... WTF? only works for verizon to verizon calls??? The call quality on verizon sucks big time - the bit-starved vocoder that they use is atrocious. Dare I say it, AMPS had better sound quality than the crap Verizon uses now. I have been hoping that the VoLTE would bring them at least on par with GSM call quality, but limiting it to only other verizon cellular customers is a joke. This may get the iphone uses all wet, hoping to surf and take a call simultaneously, but for most, it will turn out to be more fluff than substance....
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My guess is they are doing peer to peer connections so hitting someone on another carrier wouldn't work. They should be able to convert VoLTE on the back end to hand off when not calling a Verizon customer though.. odd that wouldn't do that.

All the family i have uses verizon so to be it's no big deal. Does the clear voice only work Verizon to Verizon to?

Navigation (GPS) doesn't work

This might be a deal breaker for me, and I can't believe I haven't heard about it in reviews.
GPS doesn't work if you are on the phone? Is this a VZW only thing?
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Do you mean by calling ?

Faruko said:
Do you mean by calling ?
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Yes, as soon as I make a phone call my GPS stopped tracking my progress. When I hang up, tracking resumes.

I have not noticed this with the OG X. I do use GPS and have calls at times.
I wont get my new 2014 X till the 29th

Voice calls and data connection currently don't work together. There's an update planned for "this fall" that will fix it.

toddbecker said:
Yes, as soon as I make a phone call my GPS stopped tracking my progress. When I hang up, tracking resumes.
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Update - it seems like the GPS is still tracking, but my nav app begins searching for the data network to provide additional info (traffic, accidents, etc.).
So, not as big a deal as I thought, but still annoying and seems like a step back from my RAZR M.

not an issue on ATT.

toddbecker said:
This might be a deal breaker for me, and I can't believe I haven't heard about it in reviews.
GPS doesn't work if you are on the phone? Is this a VZW only thing?
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Yes its Verizon only. Never noticed you can't use data on the phone?

jphilippon said:
Yes its Verizon only. Never noticed you can't use data on the phone?
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I didn't have the same behavior on my RAZR M that I have with the Moto X. On the X, my navigation app, Waze, begins searching for a connection (though the GPS tracking continues). In addition, a box pops up to warn about the lack of data.

Verizon's CMDA/LTE can't do voice and data at the same time (with the exception of the Rezound and the Thunderbolt), it's a problem with CDMA. GSM networks like AT&T and T-Mobile have no problem with this.

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Verizon's CMDA/LTE can't do voice and data at the same time (with the exception of the Rezound and the Thunderbolt), it's a problem with CDMA. GSM networks like AT&T and T-Mobile have no problem with this.
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Uh, what? Simultaneous voice and data has been a staple on nearly every VZW LTE phone SINCE the Thunderbolt, not just two phones.

Mean Bro Greene said:
Uh, what? Simultaneous voice and data has been a staple on nearly every VZW LTE phone SINCE the Thunderbolt, not just two phones.
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I haven't had a Verizon phone since the galaxy nexus or Rezound came out so excuse me. I hoped over to t-mobile.

I need confirmations about if that is normal not not with my N6?!!

I got my N6 (CW 46Gb) from Moto last Friday. I was amazed and exciting at the beginning. However, now I started noticing things that I am not sure if all Nexuses are like that or just mine. FYI, N6 rooted and unlocked bootloader on stock.
1. WiFi will not connect very quick. It will keep trying with "Authentication Problem" couple of times until it connects. It will take a while until it connects.
2. I can't use data mobile while I am on a phone call. I am with Verizon and I do have LTE in my area. I know for fact that I can do that because I used to do it my Galaxy Nexus and S4. (screenshot attached from N6)
3. call sound: the other end sound like "muffle" or "hollow" I don't know how to describe it, but it is not normal and not pure.
Any feedback or inputs would be helpful.
Thanks,

1. i personally dont have an issue
2. first off, you cant use both data and phone calls on verizon, its a cdma carrier. now the possibility exists to use data and voice on verizon, with lte, and only if they rolled out Volte into your area. if not, you can not have both voice and data on verizon.
3. sounds perfect here, and especially awesome when im connected via tmobiles hd calling.

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1. i personally dont have an issue
2. first off, you cant use both data and phone calls on verizon, its a cdma carrier. now the possibility exists to use data and voice on verizon, with lte, and only if they rolled out Volte into your area. if not, you can not have both voice and data on verizon.
3. sounds perfect here, and especially awesome when im connected via tmobiles hd calling.
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Thanks for your reply.
1. OK, mine might be defective unit. I will wait see other users what they say about it.
2. Yes I can use both with LTE device only! I am sure because as I said I used to do it on my previous Nexus on Verizon and Galaxy S4.
3. I try it for several days to make sure before I call it in.

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Thanks for your reply.
1. OK, mine might be defective unit. I will wait see other users what they say about it.
2. Yes I can use both with LTE device only! I am sure because as I said I used to do it on my previous Nexus on Verizon and Galaxy S4.
3. I try it for several days to make sure before I call it in.
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only if verizon rolled out volte in your area. and they just started at the end of this summer. without volte, its impossible to have voice and data on lte, for any network. if using a lte phone on tmobile or att(gsm networks), when you make a phone call when on lte, the signal drops to hspa or 3g automatically. as voice calls cant go through lte when not on volte. there is one exception, if you are making an internet phonecall(that doesnt need a phone line).

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only if verizon rolled out volte in your area. and they just started at the end of this summer. without volte, its impossible to have voice and data on lte, for any network. if using a lte phone on tmobile or att(gsm networks), when you make a phone call when on lte, the signal drops to hspa or 3g automatically. as voice calls cant go through lte when not on volte. there is one exception, if you are making an internet phonecall(that doesnt need a phone line).
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Man, look at pic attached. Using my wife's Galaxy S4 on Verizon proving that we can do it on LTE networks. I want to do it with my N6. I should be doing it like any LTE phone. I have an old 3G phone that doesn't do it.

There are only some phones that can use voice and data on Verizon without volte and only because those phones have 2 radios, I can use voice and data on my note 4 but my wife cannot use it on her turbo. The nexus cannot use voice and data without volte.
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There are only some phones that can use voice and data on Verizon without volte and only because those phones have 2 radios, I can use voice and data on my note 4 but my wife cannot use it on her turbo. The nexus cannot use voice and data without volte.
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yours makes more since. Now, have you tried N6 on Verizon LTE and didn't work like Turbo?
Edit: never mind, from Reddit "This was known. Droid Life's test showed no data while on call. There will be an update that will enable VoLTE on carriers that support it, when that goes out, LTE will work while on call on supported towers."
So, it is a matter of time.

Mine has the Authentication problem since updating to 5.0.1
I have to reenter my password

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Mine has the Authentication problem since updating to 5.0.1
I have to reenter my password
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I read somewhere here 5.0.1 fixes that! I was going to manually update mine to 5.0.1

simms22 said:
1. i personally dont have an issue
2. first off, you cant use both data and phone calls on verizon, its a cdma carrier. now the possibility exists to use data and voice on verizon, with lte, and only if they rolled out Volte into your area. if not, you can not have both voice and data on verizon.
3. sounds perfect here, and especially awesome when im connected via tmobiles hd calling.
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You can use data and voice on Verizon. I've done it many times.

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I read somewhere here 5.0.1 fixes that! I was going to manually update mine to 5.0.1
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Just the opposite for me. 5.0.1 seems to have caused it, plus connecting to data at boot up seems to take a lot longer

OK so, I don't understand. From Motorola's page:
Americas Model (XT1103)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 1900, secondary 800 MHz)
WCDMA (1, 2, 4, 5, 8)
LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 29, 41)
CA DL (B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29)​
It says "secondary 800MHz". I know I have the 1103 model, I have the box. Why on earth can the device not use the "secondary 800MHz" to make the call??

Usually the carriers roll out an update to your phone which will allow you to use data while calling. At least that is my impression of big red. I haven't had Verizon in a while so I don't remember exactly but I think it has to do with the volte update that should be pushed out to the N6 for carries that support that and WiFi calling.

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Just the opposite for me. 5.0.1 seems to have caused it, plus connecting to data at boot up seems to take a lot longer
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WiFi issue fixed. I talked custom recovery and Resurrection Remix Lollipop Rom. I loved that rom! Extra optional customizations that makes my N6 fly and special ?
I need to wait for the update to enable using voice and data at same time.
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My gnex does voice and data simultaneously. CDMA for voice and LTE for data.

The Nexus 6 does NOT do simultaneous voice and data on Verizon, yet.
The phone isn't even officially supported by Verizon. Give it some time.

anaphora68 said:
The Nexus 6 does NOT do simultaneous voice and data on Verizon, yet.
The phone isn't even officially supported by Verizon. Give it some time.
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My gnex does voice and data simultaneously. CDMA for voice and LTE for data.
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As mentioned earlier in this thread, the Galaxy Nexus has two radios. Two radios = two connections.

I don't understand how this is still a question. Lol. It has been stated in this forum that the Nexus 6 is still handicapped on Verizon until Verizon rolls out the VoLTE update for it. Until then, the one radio in the Nexus 6 will only use voice OR data at one time, not both. Older phones on Verizon usually always had two radios for simultaneous voice and data. Newer phones will now usually only have one radio, which I personally think is kind of silly.
Can't say whether the muffled and hollow call quality is a bad unit though. Mine sounds clear.

@ataris_kid... I am well aware that the gnex has 2 radios. My comment was made to drive the point home to someone posting in this thread that it wasn't possible; when in fact it is. Just not with the N6 at this point in time. I just hope that volte on vzw doesn't go the way of the pogo pins on this toro gnex with the N6.

Any downsides? 1) Data/Voice 2)rooting/system rw/bootloader unlock?

I have a chance to pick up one of these things for very cheap. I currently have the droid maxx and i'm happy with it, but can't pass up this opportunity. This seems like the only phone with a decent battery with a screen that's not too huge. So are there any downsides? Particularly
1) tell me about the data voice situation. Each day I spend about 1 hour using data for navigation while I make phone calls. It's just the nature of business commuting these days. Can the turbo do this or is it not suited for this yet? (I know about offline maps, but there is no offline waze road reports, not looking for workarounds, but a phone that can currently handle this very very basic task).
2) What's the rooting rom'ing bootloading situation? What's the xposed framework situation? How hard is it to root? Will root give system write privileges? How hard to bootloader unlock so I can do custom recovery and nandroid backup? Talk to me guys!
3) Any other downsides or gotchas I'm not thinking of at the moment?
Thank you in advance.

Only XT1225 (Intl version) is bootloader unlockable. I just unlocked and rooted and is working like a charm.
Sent from my XT1225

thanks for your reply. I'm on Verizon tho, was wondering re droid turbo specifically, not the moto maxx.

mistermojorizin said:
thanks for your reply. I'm on Verizon tho, was wondering re droid turbo specifically, not the moto maxx.
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Turbo dont have root neither unlock gor bootloader, and i dont think will have sometime soon

Yes, as they said above, no root. It may be a while.
As for Data+voice - Stop driving and looking at your phone! (jk)
I can speak from much experience here; as long as you have a good 4G signal it works very well. You will drop the call if you go from a 4g zone to a 3g or 1x zone (which if you drive on the interstate happens all the time as you switch cell towers). Then, as long as you are in a 3g zone, you can have data or voice but not both. If you are on a call in a 3g zone and head back into a 4G zone you have to hang-up and reacquire 4G signal lock to get data+voice back - otherwise you just stay on the call (but don't lose it again thankfully)

Thanks...this is very unfortunate. Was so looking forward to updating from the maxx

mistermojorizin said:
Thanks...this is very unfortunate. Was so looking forward to updating from the maxx
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Unfortunately, the simultaneous data and voice will likely be a problem with most phones designed for VoLTE. CDMA voice is in the process of being phased out.
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Unfortunately, the simultaneous data and voice will likely be a problem with most phones designed for VoLTE. CDMA voice is in the process of being phased out.
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This is why I think now is probably the best time to upgrade to something that still supports it, and that can support me for the coming years until Verizon has enough new network built up. But right now, it's unacceptable to drop such a basic feature when the phone often switches to 3g on the highways, especially in more rural areas.
I'd like to understand what it is that makes this not work. It's hard to believe that new phones from Samsung won't have support for voice and data on 3g.