i will get right to it after seeeing the full review on mobile-review i was really disappointed with the low light ability of the cam even with OIS
heres the comparison
S5 Vs N4
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-25.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-26.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-27.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-27.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-20.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-20.jpg
N4 vs Z3 , Lumia 930 , S5
lumia 930
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wow lumia really kick it ass
Who cares about nokia phones you can only take good pictures with it. There's no ecosystem, they are worthless.
Samsungs always had a terrible time with lowlight shots.
Note 3 is abysmal as Samsung always has that over processed cartoon like gel appearance.
Was hoping for much better but the Z3 woops it.
xManMythLegend said:
Samsungs always had a terrible time with lowlight shots.
Note 3 is abysmal as Samsung always has that over processed cartoon like gel appearance.
Was hoping for much better but the Z3 woops it.
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I really don't get why samsung don't work on improving the low-light performance; it's been their cameras' achilles heel for like forever.
There is another website that compares the low light performance of N4 against Z3, iphone 6 plus and butterfly 2 (from htc).
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/102/4914690/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
It is actually a blind comparison of the 4 phones (named A, B, C and D), but the general consensus is that A =butterfly 2, B=iphone6p, C=N4, D=Z3.
In my opinion, N4 outperforms iphone6p in many cases, and is at least as good as Z3, while Z3 absolutely tanks in the last competition.
That's why I have much more faith in the low light performance of N4 and looking forward to it
alexcarterkarsus said:
There is another website that compares the low light performance of N4 against Z3, iphone 6 plus and butterfly 2 (from htc).
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/102/4914690/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
It is actually a blind comparison of the 4 phones (named A, B, C and D), but the general consensus is that A =butterfly 2, B=iphone6p, C=N4, D=Z3.
In my opinion, N4 outperforms iphone6p in many cases, and is at least as good as Z3, while Z3 absolutely tanks in the last competition.
That's why I have much more faith in the low light performance of N4 and looking forward to it
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sorry but imo N4 look the worst after Butterfly 2 , IP6 plus looks it has good color reproduction under low light with good details , N4 has horrible over processing with denoise filter and ****ty contrast ( like all samsung phones = ****ty low light performance ) , Z3 looks ok better than N4 and even it doesn't have OIS
Nokia still the king of low light photography
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I really don't get why samsung don't work on improving the low-light performance; it's been their cameras' achilles heel for like forever.
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yep its sucks , cams on Samsung phones works great with good light but as soon u go inside with medium lighting the images will become really bad and with low light the images turns horrible specially with night mode on u will get unusable bad image with no details at all
White balance is off on all but the lumia. Wonder if WB settings were different between them.
Those images are hardly conclusive. The mobile-review is a rushed review of a pre-production unit with preliminary software. Most importantly, the Note 4 camera isn't less capable. It has OIS and a Sony IMX240 sensor. It is just the software that needs tweaking. This is their first OIS camera so we shouldn't be judging it until the final retail product is out. They may be too conservative with the OIS and instead are using too high ISO and too quick shutter, the opposite of what LG did on its LG G2. And you shouldn't be directly linking to images on another site. It is bad manners. Link the whole review instead.
The E-price shootout is quite encouraging if the C phone is in fact the Note 4. Definitely beats B (supposedly iPhone 6+) in most of the shots and D in the flash shot.
All the images in eprice. Com is inconsistent, each one looks different and not taken from same spot
Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
Based on those reviews it still seems to be an improvement over my note 3. Hopefully it get better from here. But Note still is the better device out of all 4 IMO. So I'm content with the result.
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Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
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Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
I believe history. Samsungs sensors and features are not the problem. Its the insanely terrible processing that turns medium to lowlight pics into smeared noisy nonsense. For many lowlight is a majority of where they take pics (most social events are dimly lit) Nothing Ive read or seen leads me to believe they even care to fix it.
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Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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dont go by that video,i do watched that................that seems to be from some other device rather than note 4 or there might be issues bcos most of the n4 pics he compared seems to be blurred.......................have seen much better n4 pics from mobilereview's russian review and i even checked 100% crops of full res images in comp with ip6+ as provided by them and note 4 has better details and its the clear winner.
k1ng617 said:
Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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Almost N4 low light shots haven't got ISO info. This mean they are software processing, different to iPhone 5S. When taking low light shot, you have to wait some seconds for intergrated photo software tweak it, like Note 3.
iPhone and Z2/Z3 normally push higher ISO to get better low light shot. You will spend less time for each shot.
k1ng617 said:
Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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That "comparison" is obviously fake! Note 4 pics on that video look worst than S4 or S5.
And who the hell is releasing camera (photo) comparison on YT? Without the jpg files? I call that comparison BS.
This one looks real and how Note 4 pics SHOULD look, i just hope to se Note 4 vs. iPhone 6 or 6+ soon.
alexcarterkarsus said:
Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
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Note 4 looks really good. Hope it's true.
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So sick of reviewers saying the camera is crappy or the software is too slow. I have compared my Nexus 5 camera against these phones below and it is so night and day its sick. The nexus 5 camera takes phenomenal photos. The pics are crisp and clear and full of color. It sucks too because I really love my LG Optimus G pro but the camera is so bad I want to puke. In low light my S4 in night mode comes close but not close enough to the nexus 5. I think the only better camera I have tested was the iphone 5s which might even be on par. So don't worry about the camera as its spot on. The only reason I was going to go back to the OGP was the removable battery and the home button but man this nexus is nice. Guess its going to stay my main phone until something better comes along.
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- iphone 5s
- Galaxy Note II
- Galaxy S4
- Galaxy S3
- LG Optimus G Pro
mactruck said:
So sick of reviewers saying the camera is crappy or the software is too slow. I have compared my Nexus 5 camera against these phones below and it is so night and day its sick. The nexus 5 camera takes phenomenal photos. The pics are crisp and clear and full of color. It sucks too because I really love my LG Optimus G pro but the camera is so bad I want to puke. In low light my S4 in night mode comes close but not close enough to the nexus 5. I think the only better camera I have tested was the iphone 5s which might even be on par. So don't worry about the camera as its spot on. The only reason I was going to go back to the OGP was the removable battery and the home button but man this nexus is nice. Guess its going to stay my main phone until something better comes along.
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- iphone 5s
- Galaxy Note II
- Galaxy S4
- Galaxy S3
- LG Optimus G Pro
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The camera app is horrendous. The iPhone's camera app is beautiful and simple and more functional. The software IS too slow. It takes forever to focus. There is no burst mode to speak of. The iPhone can take a hundred shots in the time it takes the Nexus 5 to take 5.
The camera module in the Nexus 5 is a good one, and the phone is capable of taking great pictures, but every piece of software between the module and your finger hitting the on screen button seems to be getting in the way and making achieving that perfect shot as hard as possible. Sorry to say, but your opinion is wrong. The Nexus 5 in its current state does not have a camera experience even remotely comparable to the iPhone 5s. All of the Galaxy phones take better pictures and have less trouble focusing and have a more feature rich camera app as well. You may be right about the Optimus G Pro, but 1/5 aint that good. Being able to point to a handful of absolutely stunning shots that came from a Nexus 5 doesn't prove anything. It doesn't tell you how many hundreds had to be thrown away or retaken because of being out of focus or having the exposure all wrong, or how frustrating an experience it was to achieve that shot.
muyoso said:
The camera app is horrendous. The iPhone's camera app is beautiful and simple and more functional. The software IS too slow. It takes forever to focus. There is no burst mode to speak of. The iPhone can take a hundred shots in the time it takes the Nexus 5 to take 5.
The camera module in the Nexus 5 is a good one, and the phone is capable of taking great pictures, but every piece of software between the module and your finger hitting the on screen button seems to be getting in the way and making achieving that perfect shot as hard as possible. Sorry to say, but your opinion is wrong. The Nexus 5 in its current state does not have a camera experience even remotely comparable to the iPhone 5s. All of the Galaxy phones take better pictures and have less trouble focusing and have a more feature rich camera app as well. You may be right about the Optimus G Pro, but 1/5 aint that good. Being able to point to a handful of absolutely stunning shots that came from a Nexus 5 doesn't prove anything. It doesn't tell you how many hundreds had to be thrown away or retaken because of being out of focus or having the exposure all wrong, or how frustrating an experience it was to achieve that shot.
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You might be right about the software and speed but not about the quality. Nexus 5 takes a better photo than all the phones I listed and I have compared them until blue in the face.
muyoso said:
The camera app is horrendous. The iPhone's camera app is beautiful and simple and more functional. The software IS too slow. It takes forever to focus. There is no burst mode to speak of. The iPhone can take a hundred shots in the time it takes the Nexus 5 to take 5.
The camera module in the Nexus 5 is a good one, and the phone is capable of taking great pictures, but every piece of software between the module and your finger hitting the on screen button seems to be getting in the way and making achieving that perfect shot as hard as possible. Sorry to say, but your opinion is wrong. The Nexus 5 in its current state does not have a camera experience even remotely comparable to the iPhone 5s. All of the Galaxy phones take better pictures and have less trouble focusing and have a more feature rich camera app as well. You may be right about the Optimus G Pro, but 1/5 aint that good. Being able to point to a handful of absolutely stunning shots that came from a Nexus 5 doesn't prove anything. It doesn't tell you how many hundreds had to be thrown away or retaken because of being out of focus or having the exposure all wrong, or how frustrating an experience it was to achieve that shot.
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I don't have the issues u have ,my pictures look great first try , maybe u just suck at taking pictures .
Ye might be, nx5 camera look kinda need not real to me, so poor of colors
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drawde40599 said:
I don't have the issues u have ,my pictures look great first try , maybe u just suck at taking pictures .
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Price aside, the Nexus 5 delivers solid if unspectacular image quality. It’s definitely a contender, though if image quality if your absolute priority, there are phones with better-performing cameras: the Nokia Lumia 1020, and (under most conditions) the Sony Xperia Z1, Samsung Galaxy S4 and iPhone 5s will deliver technically superior photos. Even Nokia’s 925 (and the 928 Verizon variant) will usually best the Nexus. The point is that apart from exotics like the 1020, the competition isn’t blowing the Nexus 5 out of the water. It takes good pictures. Just not quite as good as the best.
Where the Nexus 5 falls down is speed: the S4 and 5s don’t keep you waiting. The iPhone in particular is a speed demon. The 1020 lumbers a bit, but it’s mostly fast when it counts. If you’re used to the latest generation or two of phone cameras, the Nexus 5 camera app will frustrate you with its plodding and hesitation. On the other hand, if you’re someone who shoots scenes that hold still, the lack of speed may be a non-issue.
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http://connect.dpreview.com/post/2158701905/google-nexus-nexus5-smartphone-camera-review?page=8
You dont have the issues I have because you choose to ignore them or don't know the difference.
muyoso said:
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/2158701905/google-nexus-nexus5-smartphone-camera-review?page=8
You dont have the issues I have because you choose to ignore them or don't know the difference.
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I don't care what what that site says .... I use real life experiences and I never forget its a phone not a camera . the N5 takes great pictures in comparison to my other 16 androids . and well **** an iPhone .
I took this at a concert and it is one of the best phone camera concert pictures I've ever taken. I for one think the optics of the camera are great. The software on the other hand could be better.
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It's not a bad camera, specially when you consider how much sexiness is packed into this phone for that low cost.
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I took this at a concert and it is one of the best phone camera concert pictures I've ever taken. I for one think the optics of the camera are great. The software on the other hand could be better.
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Which mode were you using ? Action mode ? How come he's not blurry since he must've been moving.
I took some pics at a xmas dinner party a few days ago and while the exposure was good...the faces were blurry because they were moving (not by much but enough to cause the blur)
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You might be right about the software and speed but not about the quality. Nexus 5 takes a better photo than all the phones I listed and I have compared them until blue in the face.
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No way the Nexus 5 takes a better picture than the iPhone 5s especially with any low light situation. It is capable of taking good pictures in perfect conditions however. The real issue is the software completely sucks (terrible and slow focusing, etc) so no matter what you think, the average person is taking terrible pictures with the phone. And it is all because the camera software is terrible. There is no other way around it. So yes, it CAN take great shots. But most of the time it doesn't.
I have to agree with the guy, the Nexus 5 camera is not horrible but it seems quite a few devices are having issues which are most likely hardware or software related. My Nexus 5 camera is absolutely fine. I did notice the camera doesn't focus correctly on the subject, so don't snap a picture that isn't in focus or not focused on the right spot, that's on you.
I have a N5, iPhone 5, Note 2 and Galaxy S4 within my reach. Took them all for a spin today and lemme rate the cameras:
1. Galaxy S4. Camera is good, not bad software, no real issues at all.
2. Nexus 5. Yes the software sux but with Sur's Camera mod V1.3 it's better and I was able to get a better photo than the next 2 in almost every situation.
3. iPhone 5. Best software but the camera it self seems to be lacking. Especially in darker situations (today it was very wintery dark out there) so I had real trouble getting good clean photos.
4. Note 2. Pretty much on par with the iPhone but worse software and the camera it self is also pretty poor when compared to this bunch.
Honestly, I don't have too many complaints to the N5's camera considering the phone costs so much less than any of those did when they came out. Yes the software is the worst in the bunch but as it is SOFTware it can be changed and fixed and as long as the camera it self seems good, I can't see what all the fuss is about.
All this said, HDR has to be on. If it's off the photos are absolutely terrible for some reason.
ssconceptz said:
I have to agree with the guy, the Nexus 5 camera is not horrible but it seems quite a few devices are having issues which are most likely hardware or software related. My Nexus 5 camera is absolutely fine. I did notice the camera doesn't focus correctly on the subject, so don't snap a picture that isn't in focus or not focused on the right spot, that's on you.
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I'm replying to you, but this goes to everybody that says the camera isn't slow or problematic when focusing:
You must not have kids or pets.
Trying to focus on something that is moving is an *impossible* feat with this phone. The phone can take great photos, but the image quality is *not* better than the iPhone 5S or Galaxy S4. Thinking it is means you're delusional, because every review site (including photography sites, where they specialize in determining exactly what we're talking about) agrees with me. The camera is adequate, but it is not a superb shooter. Most of that is arguably the software...since, with the right conditions, the phone *can* take great pictures. Until it's reliable though, in doing so, the camera isn't that helpful.
Have you thought that maybe your opinion is a bit biased? After taking side-by-side pictures using my GS4, iPhone 5S, and Nexus 5 I can easily see that the Nexus 5 only keeps up when people aren't moving or I'm able to really take the time to set up the shot. It takes *FAR* too long to open the camera app (which is a huge factor for a smartphone camera), and it takes *FAR* too long to actually take the shot (shutter-lag). I can go from hitting the power button to getting a well-focused picture on my GS4 or iPhone 5S in under 2 seconds...with the Nexus 5 that stretches to around 6-7 seconds, minimum. That's a huge difference when your kid just smacked herself in the face with cake and you want to get a picture before she wipes it off and starts screaming.
The Nexus 5 camera is adequate, but not superb.
hotleadsingerguy said:
I'm replying to you, but this goes to everybody that says the camera isn't slow or problematic when focusing:
You must not have kids or pets.
Trying to focus on something that is moving is an *impossible* feat with this phone. The phone can take great photos, but the image quality is *not* better than the iPhone 5S or Galaxy S4. Thinking it is means you're delusional, because every review site (including photography sites, where they specialize in determining exactly what we're talking about) agrees with me. The camera is adequate, but it is not a superb shooter. Most of that is arguably the software...since, with the right conditions, the phone *can* take great pictures. Until it's reliable though, in doing so, the camera isn't that helpful.
Have you thought that maybe your opinion is a bit biased? After taking side-by-side pictures using my GS4, iPhone 5S, and Nexus 5 I can easily see that the Nexus 5 only keeps up when people aren't moving or I'm able to really take the time to set up the shot. It takes *FAR* too long to open the camera app (which is a huge factor for a smartphone camera), and it takes *FAR* too long to actually take the shot (shutter-lag). I can go from hitting the power button to getting a well-focused picture on my GS4 or iPhone 5S in under 2 seconds...with the Nexus 5 that stretches to around 6-7 seconds, minimum. That's a huge difference when your kid just smacked herself in the face with cake and you want to get a picture before she wipes it off and starts screaming.
The Nexus 5 camera is adequate, but not superb.
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Ok, moving targets noted but lets leave that out for a second and talk about standing still objects. Here the nexus camera takes the best photos. Plenty more detail, colors and light than all the others. This is what I am saying. I would attribute the lack of focusing on moving targets a software problem that hopefully will get fixed but in the end the Nexus 5 has the best camera module than the others. That is really what I am saying and honestly that is what really counts. If I want to take actions shots I will use my Canon 7D.
ravenwood27 said:
Which mode were you using ? Action mode ? How come he's not blurry since he must've been moving.
I took some pics at a xmas dinner party a few days ago and while the exposure was good...the faces were blurry because they were moving (not by much but enough to cause the blur)
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This is when I was taking a video. In video mode you can tap on the screen to take a picture while shooting video. I found that most of the pictures I took like this weren't blurry The weird thing also is that when you're in video mode there's ZSL (zero shutter lag) which there isn't normally. So for parts of the concert i'd just throw it into video mode and tap on the screen for the pictures. NOW, I know that the pictures would only be 1920x1080 instead of 3264x2448, but I prefer this. I HATE the 3264x2488 format, it looks to squareish for me lol. Also i'd rather the pictures be crisp and not blurry and a tad bit smaller then having them be blurry and bigger lol. Just my thoughts
The camera is fine, the software is terrible so the camera might as well suck. Pictures are typically out of focus after repeat attempts to get it to focus.
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So sick of reviewers saying the camera is crappy or the software is too slow. I have compared my Nexus 5 camera against these phones below and it is so night and day its sick. The nexus 5 camera takes phenomenal photos. The pics are crisp and clear and full of color. It sucks too because I really love my LG Optimus G pro but the camera is so bad I want to puke. In low light my S4 in night mode comes close but not close enough to the nexus 5. I think the only better camera I have tested was the iphone 5s which might even be on par. So don't worry about the camera as its spot on. The only reason I was going to go back to the OGP was the removable battery and the home button but man this nexus is nice. Guess its going to stay my main phone until something better comes along.
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- iphone 5s
- Galaxy Note II
- Galaxy S4
- Galaxy S3
- LG Optimus G Pro
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You are a looser tester.
S4 camera is way much better than N5. It's higher mpix and it focuses twice much faster.
Hasn't Google already addressed the camera issue? It's already been said that Google are working on the software side since they know it's ruining photos.
I seriously love my Nexus 5 camera, sure it has some downsides like shooting time etc.. but overall the quality of pictures I took and HDR+ was a huge improvement over my nexus 4 and even my GS4. OIS was a huge help I do have shaky hands
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
sofia-captivate said:
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Yellowness camera can not be better
There is sony sensor, sony sensor is yellownes/redness photos
Watch this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/white-balance-t2870875
Color reproducion like in 5s
Also
Nokia Lumia 1520
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Samsung tried, yellowness although decreased
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Apple_iPhone_6_Plus_vs_Samsung_GALAXY_Note_4.html
but it still there
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-note4.shtml#s9
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But s5 camera also have bug. Rosines in non HDR mode.
Best cameras now is Lenovo Vibe Z2 Pro, Galaxy Alpha, Nokia Lumia 1020 and Nokia Lumia 1520
sofia-captivate said:
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-ios8-camera-problems,news-19585.html
All phone cameras have their strengths and weaknesses, and most compact standalone cameras are way better.
sofia-captivate said:
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Did you compare both?
Or where did you see that?
From what I've seen, the iPhone 6 camera is very good for a 8mp camera but not even close to the S5's camera.
Lots of reviewed site said that 6+ camera better color reproduction than s5 but can't compete the detail value because of 8mp
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Galaxy's camera seem to be slightly better.
The S5 is better from a detail perspective in outdoor shots but in low light and Indoor shots, the iPhone 6 wins due to the larger pixels Apple implemented. The S5 is still able to compete due too the image stabilization mode but that's only really beneficial with stationary scenes and subjects.
I have read that colour reproduction is typically better on the iPhone since the S5 usually produces very vibrant and contrast rich photos. It really depends on your personal preferences in the end.
Both phones will take great photos but I would consider the iPhone to be more "idiot" proof. It's relatively hard to mess up your shot when shooting with an iPhone. The S5 on the other hand can produce a vast range of images depending on the settings you change.
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Idiots still using megapixels to judge camera quality. 8 vs. 16 doesn't mean **** on these small screens. Even in an 8x10 print you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
bloodrain954 said:
Idiots still using megapixels to judge camera quality. 8 vs. 16 doesn't mean **** on these small screens. Even in an 8x10 print you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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do you just view your pic and don't stretch it to zoom? [emoji15]
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Idiots ) ... SRSLY? all of you are srsly? Can u be OK with a 8mpx phone which cost almost 1000$? Fu* THIS sh**t
U DON'T even have ir blaster, Bluetooth, WATERPROOF, etc etc etc
1mpx front camera? )))))) OMG
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As an hardcore Android advocate, it's a bit hard to edmitt: but the IPhone 6 camera rocks!!! I just played with it for an hour and I'm really impressed! Man, can that camera take nice pictures - lighting fast! The auto focus is the fasted I have ever tested. I compared it to my S5 side by side, and the S5 has no chance in this case! Jesus!
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As an hardcore Android advocate, it's a bit hard to edmitt : but the IPhone 6 camera rocks!!! Just playrd with it for an hour and I'm really impressed! Man can that camera take nice pictures lighting fast! The auto focus is the fasted I have even tested. Compared it with my S5 side by side, and the S5 has no chance in this case! Jesus!
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Agreed. Not to mention how much better it feels compared to the s5. Don't get me wrong I still wouldn't trade. I'm having too much fun with all the new roms.
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Agreed. Not to mention how much better it feels compared to the s5. Don't get me wrong I still wouldn't trade. I'm having too much fun with all the new roms.
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Agreed! ? felt soooo premium!
I also would never leave Android and the ability to customize everything the way I want it. Just hope "we" can catch up with the premium feel and function.
S5 camera beats iphone 6 details wise. Must be blind not to see it.
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S5 camera beats iphone 6 details wise. Must be blind not to see it.
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It's true but that's only really applicable in daylight situations. The S5's extra detail turns into a noise filled mess in low light situations where as the iPhone 6 with its lower resolution camera retains more usable detail albeit with some noise but that's too be expected with such a small sensor.
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More yellownes. This is best camera?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxUQQr33Qk
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More yellownes. This is best camera?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxUQQr33Qk
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Yes I think the IPhone is closer to correct color reproduction. The G3 is way to cold is this video sample. Sure, the IPhone is probably a bit to warm. Bit over all it looks great.
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Yes I think the IPhone is closer to correct color reproduction. The G3 is way to cold is this video sample. Sure, the IPhone is probably a bit to warm. Bit over all it looks great.
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lol
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lol
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Well, it is! I've tested both cameras at the same time , so I know! That's more than you two Internet warriors can say.......
Hello. So, there has been a confusion on how to capture better photos and videos on Nexus 5. With the introduction of Android Lollipop we have the option to shoot RAW photos (which is basically the same as before, with the difference being that the image is not compressed or processed), and also we got a great app which is called L Camera..
L Camera was a great alternative for those who wanted to squeeze out as much as Nexus 5's camera has to offer. We even got to shoot at 1080p/60fps(although it was never fixed to work properly) and a resolution very close to 4K.
I hoped that since Google unlocked all this power for us with Lollipop, Marshmallow was going to bring even better stuff on the table. This does not seem to be the case though.
So, right now we are basically stuck in terms of camera options. The L Camera has been outdated, problematic and unsupported for quite some while now and Google's stock camera is still really bad.
How do you feel about all this guys? Have you found any better camera app than L Camera that works on Marshmallow? Are you building something yourselves? (maybe and improved version of L Camera)
Let's discuss this!
There is this "Manual Camera", "Camera FV-5", and "Open Camera"
This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
I use Proshot, really great camera app.
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This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
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Got to agree. I notice especially low light performance has improved greatly on the stock camera app on marshmallow. Not sure what Google has done but good job on them for doing it. It still responses like crap and lags some times but if the pictures are better I am all for it.
Stock app is much better its what I call serviceable now. I always knew the Nexus 5s camera was capable but poor software always held it back. Sad to see it took almost 3 years after it launched to become capable.
Open camera is also a great app and 100% free and open source
The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
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The lens is prone to gather grease from you fingers causing a hazy streaky look. I always bring a microfiber cloth to clean it off before shooting.
There isnt a proper RAW color profile available so it takes work to get images to pop like the JPEGs do. One of these days I'l generate one, it requires shooting a colorchecker chart outside in clear mid-day.
I haven't taken much pictures with it but this one.
I have a 6S and iPhone 5, I had lost my iPhone 5 out of stupidity. I wanted a cheap replacement and heard good things about the nexus, I had already tried the Galaxy s5 and htc one m8 so might as well kill 2 birds with one stone a good cheap phone and a chance to try out the nexus 5. Very impressed so far, very smooth. Runs much smoother then the galaxies I had. Ran me $160 CAD and it's unlocked
I decided to take a picture last night with the nexus. Came out amazing, took some other low lighting shots in my room and compared it to my 6s and it isn't that bad to be completely honest much better then my s5, Note edge and htc in low lighting.
The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
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The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
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It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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Here's a daylight example of a processed RAW:
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It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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Here's a daylight example of a processed RAW:
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
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Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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I have a simple checklist I go through when processing raw photos: exposure, white balance and NR if needed. I rarely need anything else so for a single shot I'm normally done in less than a minute. Raw converters offer many options which can seem overwhelming for the novice, but there's nothing to it if you stick to the most important ones. OTOH if you are working on an uncalibrated monitor there's a small chance are you might be making things worse color-wise. I don't do HDR, sorry.
Snap camera? I threw it under system/apps, changed the name to camera2.apk and even the power button hot key works.
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"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
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prog19 said:
"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
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I'm enjoying "A Better Camera" too. It's really simple to use and produces nice photos. But I still prefer Camera FV-5 over it when I need manual setings.
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The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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And output any dng to full resolution.
The sad thing about LR is the import picture method
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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjQ2s_Aj9N/?igshid=1dxoigutseqyk
Went to local galaxy unpacked event and tried the camera. PROMISING! Definitely better than the whole S20 ultra fiasco
Had a hands on, the focus issue is completely gone. This is by far the fastest one yet. Pictures are also a lot better than the S20 ultra....over contrast and sharpening is not there and looks to be finally what they promised.
Unfortunately at the mall the zoom lens didn't look as good to me....still pics at a distance were good, but anything with a a slight movement was a mess with the periscope camera. Also, the images were terrible compared to note 10 plus from 2x-4.9x, which I'm assuming was just a crop from the main pic as opposed to the telephoto from Note 10 plus. Ultra wide I preferred note 10 plus for some reason....tad more in the image and more details.
Just my 2 cents...getting free buds live , 256 gb storage, Exynos 990 for 1225 dollars in UAE - edit * freaking thing is only 8GB RAM at this price.....insane
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I use a program called Cam Scanner a lot.
Things like asset tags and some field documents/plates on turbines, et al.
Never had an issue with clarity until the S20 Ultra. The focus uniformity across the frame, frankly, sucks! With the camera app I can usually find a somewhat happy medium. But I don't like it and on a $1450 flagship device, it's unacceptable!
HOPEFULLY, the Note20 Ultra does NOT have this issue. Is it a dealbreaker? Depends on how much better "everything else" is compared to the S20 Ultra. Since e-sim is about as useful as tits on a bull in the US, I have to carry two phones, the second being an iPhone 11 Pro Max. Camscanner works beautifully on that.
Thanks to the pandemic, my live gig days have come to a fat screeching halt, so recording live music isn't happening so any enhancements to video in that regard aren't going to matter much. Alternate audio sources may get rid of the metallic rain sound when recording outdoors in the wind, and I will be curious as to what mics will work. That could be interesting.
Some photos from local best buy
Pretty much if you like Samsung's photos on previous phones then you'll like the ones from this phone. The photos have the same look i.e. colorful and bright exposure.
Night photos look slightly improved and so does tele photos.
Definite improvement on night mode from s20u..
(Exynos)
cpufrost said:
I use a program called Cam Scanner a lot.
Things like asset tags and some field documents/plates on turbines, et al.
Never had an issue with clarity until the S20 Ultra. The focus uniformity across the frame, frankly, sucks! With the camera app I can usually find a somewhat happy medium. But I don't like it and on a $1450 flagship device, it's unacceptable!
HOPEFULLY, the Note20 Ultra does NOT have this issue. Is it a dealbreaker? Depends on how much better "everything else" is compared to the S20 Ultra. Since e-sim is about as useful as tits on a bull in the US, I have to carry two phones, the second being an iPhone 11 Pro Max. Camscanner works beautifully on that.
Thanks to the pandemic, my live gig days have come to a fat screeching halt, so recording live music isn't happening so any enhancements to video in that regard aren't going to matter much. Alternate audio sources may get rid of the metallic rain sound when recording outdoors in the wind, and I will be curious as to what mics will work. That could be interesting.
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I love CamScanner! As a teacher, I use it all the time!! I hope I don't have issues with this phone with that app.
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I love CamScanner! As a teacher, I use it all the time!! I hope I don't have issues with this phone with that app.
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Microsoft's Lens Scanner does a great job, too! Especially if you're heavily invested in Microsoft apps like Office 365.
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Went to local galaxy unpacked event and tried the camera. PROMISING! Definitely better than the whole S20 ultra fiasco
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Holy smokes, the Note 20 Ultra's pic is MUCH better in that side-by-side comparison.
I took quick photos of my dog in normal Auto Mode to compare how my S20 Ultra (Left) processed the image vs. how the new Note 20 Ultra (Right) fared. I already knew my S20U struggled in less than perfect lighting & with fur textures, so I was curious if the N20U did too.
I'm glad the Note 20U has significantly improved processing right out of the box (even after the S20U's many updates, which did very little). Is it actually possible for the the S20U to be updated to be on par with the N20U? From walking around & taking random everyday photos, the differences in image processing have been pretty staggering between the 2 phones despite their similar hardware.
I feel you there ... I'm local 33 in la... I miss working the shows too.
With you on the 10+ comparison. I was shocked actually to see my 10+ take better pics
Disappointed in the pictures compared to my note 10+. The pictures seem overly exposed and really colorful
The night mode is terrible compared to my s20 ultra! I'm starting to think something is wrong. I took the same photo at the same time and the s20 ultra is clear while the Note is grainy and no detail. Anyone else having this issue?
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The night mode is terrible compared to my s20 ultra! I'm starting to think something is wrong. I took the same photo at the same time and the s20 ultra is clear while the Note is grainy and no detail. Anyone else having this issue?
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I'm getting the opposite N20U better than S20U both exynos
Note 10 + still Image quality Tops Note 20 Ultra Images for me
Note 10+ is the more interesting comparison vs S20+. Have them all
With all but images beyond ^ 5X and Night Mode the 10+ pics are just richer and more vibrant.
Saw this on a number of UTube comparisons so have checked repeatedly.
Sure enough it's true.
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The night mode is terrible compared to my s20 ultra! I'm starting to think something is wrong. I took the same photo at the same time and the s20 ultra is clear while the Note is grainy and no detail. Anyone else having this issue?
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Absolutely! Especially at 10X, the S20U blows the Note 20 Ultra out of the water.
And space zoom, 50X on both phones looks nearly identical.
This is definitely a downgrade especially if you had the 16GB RAM on the S20 Ultra.
This is essentially an S20 Ultra, aka gimped, with a bigger screen and s-pen.
Definitely disappointed, usually the Note series stands out from the S series. This is essentially a sidegrade at best and if you're noticing these things, a big disappointment.
Kind of silly my nearly year old 11 Pro Max camera trashes this one, especially video and night mode. iOS 14 night mode is incredible!
The funny thing is if you read note 10's plus topic for the camera it turns out s10s camera was better, if you read, s10s topic it turns out note 9s camera was better... You get the point, hah? To me the camera is great, and don't forget that it's just the start of the note 20s life cycle and the quality will improve significantly with the software updates.
Smudged detail, really not great. I had the find x5 pro for a while before returning it and there really is no comparison. Quite disappointed.
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Smudged detail, really not great. I had the find x5 pro for a while before returning it and there really is no comparison. Quite disappointed.
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Really not sure about keeping the phone. On one hand I actually like the fake OxygenOS basically ColorOS. The phone software feels very very polished relative to other androids. Almost like a non buggy MIUI. But the PWM flicker is pretty bad.
Cameras seem fine in my limited testing. Although OnePlus has always taken a couple months to fix their cameras.
I've taken some great pics so far...as with any phone the situation sometimes requires you to alter some settings, that's what pro modes for.
This phone will come good, the hardwares just too good to not exploit with some good ROMs.
I was hesitant at first comparing it to my 8 pro but I'm so in now..
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I've taken some great pics so far...as with any phone the situation sometimes requires you to alter some settings, that's what pro modes for.
This phone will come good, the hardwares just too good to not exploit with some good ROMs.
I was hesitant at first comparing it to my 8 pro but I'm so in now..
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Totally agree!
in good light the camera is fine, it is medium to low light where I am seeing a drop off vs say the S22 or Pixel. For example seems pretty bad for smudging fur detail on pets.
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in good light the camera is fine, it is medium to low light where I am seeing a drop off vs say the S22 or Pixel. For example seems pretty bad for smudging fur detail on pets.
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Have you tried the other settings in manual mode ?
As a point and shoot it'll get better but if you expect the world without any work it's just not going to happen mate. Not Vs an S22. I mean that's an expensive phone, it should be better, the pixel is using the base software and it's Google again it should be better..
That being said I'm positive I can get better than any point and shoot camera phone with this phone
This camera has a lot of features, settings, and cool picture possibilities....Hasselblad ftw
What I have learnt from experience with phones is to now buy it for the camera , I will just get one mirror less camera which will last longer than any camera phones for a long time
I think it is only in comparison to the competition that it falls short. My torture test for any new phone is photos of our cats indoors and I am seeing more smudging and a less clwean image than the Pixel of S22 Ultra offers and yes I have owned both and still actually have the S22U.
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I think it is only in comparison to the competition that it falls short. My torture test for any new phone is photos of our cats indoors and I am seeing more smudging and a less clwean image than the Pixel of S22 Ultra offers and yes I have owned both and still actually have the S22U.
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Try some different settings. Smudges may occur due to HDR being on and a slight movement, could just be the software that OnePlus has made. It could just need a few updates which I'm sure may occur.
ISO could be too high too.
Use pro mode, set the shutter speed as low as possible Vs an ISO of 200-800, should help...find the sweet spot depending on the light you have.. it's manual but honestly my pics come out better when I have control. My DSLR I'd never let the camera choose for me..
There was a poll on phonearena with blind camera test (users were asked to vote for best picture of same scene clicked by S22, iPhone13 Pro, OP 10 Pro and Pixel 6 Pro without knowing which phone clicked which picture)... OP sucked major balls and came in last
I got my OP10 Pro today...anyway I did not buy it for camera
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Smudged detail, really not great. I had the find x5 pro for a while before returning it and there really is no comparison. Quite disappointed.
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Yeah, sometimes it is bad if there is very low light OnePlus should give an update for this along with the security patch!
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There was a poll on phonearena with blind camera test (users were asked to vote for best picture of same scene clicked by S22, iPhone13 Pro, OP 10 Pro and Pixel 6 Pro without knowing which phone clicked which picture)... OP sucked major balls and came in last
I got my OP10 Pro today...anyway I did not buy it for camera
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Again this is point and shoot.
Ask any actual photographer if they rely on automatic lens settings, the vast majority will say no they won't so why would you rely on it for your phone? They all have the capability yet we tend to believe some plum who's pointings and shooting? Makes no sense to me
I'm not saying that the results are incorrect as I've not used them phones, but relying on this test is testing one thing and that's the automatic settings chosen by the software on the phone.
That's it.
Give all these phones to a photographer and get them to use settings based on the scene they have Infront of them, then check the results, I think you'll see a different outcome
For the record I used to be a photographer for a living in a previous life. I almost always though just use my phone in auto mode as a point and shoot, have just never embraced manual mode (or even Av mode for that matter) on a phone.
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For the record I used to be a photographer for a living in a previous life. I almost always though just use my phone in auto mode as a point and shoot, have just never embraced manual mode (or even Av mode for that matter) on a phone.
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I take a lot of astro photograph's, both with my DSLR / telescope and purpose built astro camera.. but also my phone.
I need to change some things when I take a night shot, especially of the sky.
I think if you give it a shot (no pun intended) you'll be surprised at the results.
it will take months before sensor potential is used at its fullest with Gcam, and everyone knows these have infinite issues with white balance etc for years, so those kind of flagships won't ever shoot close to what cheaper older flagships can already do after years of gcam configs development
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it will take months before sensor potential is used at its fullest with Gcam, and everyone knows these have infinite issues with white balance etc for years, so those kind of flagships won't ever shoot close to what cheaper older flagships can already do after years of gcam configs development
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I agree besides gcam, it's just unstable, things not working like wide angle, slow motion.
But for a point and shoot it's the simpler option.
I think Vs pro mode you'd get better on the stock app.
Defo agree on updates helping
oneplus explicitly stated they remove access to aux cameras in OOS12, no one pays flagship price for a point and shoot and nevermind what comes out at the end experience, u can do that on a 200$ Xiaomi and get 95% satisfaction for social media and casual browsing on large screens
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oneplus explicitly stated they remove access to aux cameras in OOS12
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How do you mean?
Auxiliary as in external?
OnePlus 9 and 9 Pro OxygenOS 12 Android 12 Update: Filled with Bugs, Blocks Access to Auxiliary Cameras for GCam , same is inherited in all models @ OOS12