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Pharos Traveler 137 wins CES awards, has T-Mobile USA 3G...

This new Pharos Traveler 137 has impressive specs, looks, gps, unbranded, unlocked, 3.5 screen, and best of all 3G for usa T-Mobile & AT&T(1900) users! It's scheduled to be out end of 1st quarter 2009. Here's more info...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1563...ne_offers_navigation_no_network_required.html
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/01/pharos-introduces-first-unlocked-t-mobile-3g-phone/
SPECS:
Operating system: Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional (upgradable to WM6.5)
Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Memory: 256MB DDR SDRAM, 512MB Flash ROM
Display: 3.5" TFT LCD Resistive
Resolution: 480 x 800 WVGA with 65K colors
Accelerometer
Phone: Unlocked with one SIM card slot
GSM Quad band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
EDGE / GPRS Class 12
Tri-band AWS 1700/1900/2100 MHz
UMTS 384Kb/s, HSDPA 7.2Mb/s, HSUPA 2Mb/s
Talk time: up to 4 hours ; 200 hours of standby
GPS: NMEA0183/AGPS compatible
Cold start <90 seconds (open sky, typical)
Warm Start <40 seconds (open sky, typical)
Hot start <1 second (open sky, typical)
Digital camera/camcorder: CMOS, 3.0 mega pixels, fix focus
Up to 2048X1536 resolution
0.3 mega pixels front camera for video conference
Antenna: Embedded (2G/3G, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, FM)
Expansion: Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth® v2.0 + EDR
USB 2.0 High Speed
Micro SD slot support SDHC
Stereo audio jack through 11pin mini USB
Battery: 1380 mAh Li-Ion, rechargeable/replaceable
Device Dimension: 4.60in (L) x 2.40in (W) x 0.51in (H)
Device Weight: 4.94oz

gps services on a pay per day basis??!!?? euhm synonims like "prison sex" come to mind (something to do with ass and rape )
I WOULD NEVER get a gps phone that takes its gps service hostage against me the owner!!

Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Must be very Cool then,.

Does anyone know if the screen is resistive? Or capacitive?

-G- said:
Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Must be very Cool then,.
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I'd rather have a Marvell Processor myself.

AllTheWay said:
I'd rather have a Marvell Processor myself.
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or this just announced Marvell's PXA168 Capable of 1GHz+ would be awesome on a new PPC device!
http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/marvell_pxa168_applications_processor_sheeva/release/1199/

galaxys said:
or this just announced Marvell's PXA168 Capable of 1GHz+ would be awesome on a new PPC device!
http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/marvell_pxa168_applications_processor_sheeva/release/1199/
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. At least the 624mhz one thats in the Omnia would be nice.

pjhollin said:
Does anyone know if the screen is resistive? Or capacitive?
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It's a resistive screen.

I've been looking at this phone for a while, and now that it's out, I'm having a heck of a time finding someone who sells it that has it in stock ( tried the websites suggested here on their website). I did find it for $517, out of stock, on provantage.com but it doesn't seem like this phone is very accessible
I have no reason to be a skeptic as to this phone's ability to get Tmo's 3g. The specifications show that it has the 1700/2100 bands required for the service, but I'd really like to know if anyone has been able to try it out yet and what kind of dl speeds they are getting ( oh, and where you managed to buy one from)

FYI...it has not been released yet. The Pharos forum tech said on 03-31-09:
"The Traveler 137 is due to be released into the market in a couple of months. Unfortunately, we do not have the exact release date at this time. Thank you, Natalie"
Hopefully, they are trying to get WM6.5 on this bad boy for a June release...

when it comes to hardware, i will always check the cpu used
qualcomm = slow, very preformance lag & flickering

Nice shame no physical keyboard and no HTC build...

Agree that HTC & XDA support is important...
Also, it has the same qualcom chip and I wish it had the snapdragon!

FYI...PocketPC Thoughts announced the unlocked Pharos 137 (dual USA 3G & upgradable to WM6.5) finally goes on sale tomorrow at Amazon, Expance, Newegg, etc...
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/mob...ilable-upgradeable-to-windows-mobile-6-5.html

what kind of freaking joke is this??
cant find the phone on amazon, dell, or newegg!
or any places that have the phone "available"!

^looks like Pharos Support replied to U on the their forum: that it would be delayed (again) for 1 week

they better not have anymore delays! i just hate waiting!
otherwise i'm going to get acer f900.
acer f900 uses samsung 533mzh cpu, is that better than qualcom 528mzh?
but f900 only has 256rom/128ram, but i think that is enough?

Does anyone know of any active ROM development for these phones? I would love for someone to cook up a custom build for this phone. Thanks in advance.

sikkboy626 said:
Does anyone know of any active ROM development for these phones? I would love for someone to cook up a custom build for this phone. Thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately, I have not seen any development (yet) for the PT137. It would be on the Pharos forum if there's going to be any cooking...
Note this just went on sale, so not too many have it...

i also have a PT137 and would love to see some rom development but i don't think it's going to happen here at xda. the pharos section in this forum is for the device htc made for them and i don't think htc is making the phones for pharos any more.
i will keep my fingers crossed and hope.

HTC HD3 Specifications

The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers:
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- HD Graphics Card 3D
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD 3.0 Up to 64 GB
- Screen: 4,5" Super AMOLED 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows phone 7
- Bluetooth: 3.0
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX,MPEG4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours

WOWWWWWWWWWWW. I want one... NOW. lol. what a great phone and very pretty also. Do you know the release date?

hmmm it will cost me a lot to get this one...

Is that true? or that guy is make up his own story??? where the proof??? URL?

CETBOR said:
Is that true? or that guy is make up his own story??? where the proof??? URL?
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if you search HD3 in google you will realise that are many site writing about HD3. However, in some, they say that this new is false. Let's wait and see the end of the story

edan1979 said:
hmmm it will cost me a lot to get this one...
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yep. really.

1280 x 800? Is it running XP? lol

Specs for this monster are mouth-watering, and I do question it's usability as a normal phone due to size.
But what a portable multimedia powerhouse! If it's true, of course...
On the other hand, will we need to sell one kidney and a spleen for it?

specs are excellent.....but bigger the screen gets , bigger the chances of it getting damaged...

Too bad WIndows Phone 7 Series doesn't support 1280 x 800 pixels. In the beginning only 800 x 480 and later 480 x 320.
It's just a dream.....

Fitz said:
Too bad WIndows Phone 7 Series doesn't support 1280 x 800 pixels. In the beginning only 800 x 480 and later 480 x 320.
It's just a dream.....
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This is just another proof of fake.

esackbauer said:
This is just another proof of fake.
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I saw the pic with the caption dont remember exactly but "what a wp7 hd3 might look like" in any case someones version of what they would design the hd3 to look like and with out any connection to htc in addition even the pictures of the diamond 3 (htc obsesion) rumored to be wp7 and coming in the fall is probably incorrect as it is shown as having 5 buttons and not 3.
In the meantime I think HTC is sticking to wm6.5 and this is because they have invested to much in there own apps for wm6.5 phones sense2.5 and all the htc programs that come with it, as well as 3 new 6.5 phones are coming in the next month or so. Bottom line there is no HD3 in the mean time.

This looks like somebodies active imagination IMHO so I'm going to close thread. If someone has actual proof they can PM me and I'll re-open thread

Create Your Own Phone (Or Checkout Mine)

I had the Idea for this phone last year
Dell X720 [Dell Ex Seven Twenty]
3.8" 960x540 qHD AMOLED Ace Multitouch Screen
7.2MP Camera With 720pHD @ 60fps, f1/1.6 Sensor
PowerVR SGX543MP1 GPU, A15 Triple Core, Troy SoC
7.2 MBs Real Time Net Speed, 720p HD 2MP 2nd Cam
1GB ROM, 720MB FREE RAM, 7.2GB Internal Storage
Stereo FM Radio with RDS, Excellent Audio Quality
Android Ice Cream Sandwich With Propieratory UI
up to 32GB External Memory, Corning Gorilla Glass 2
2250mAh Li-Ion Battery, around 720 Hours Standby
48 Hours Continous Musicplay, 14 Hours Talktime
Triple Core A15 @ 720 MHz: 720
7.2 Megapixel Camera(8MP): 7.20
720h Standby(2250mAh Batt): 720
720MB FREE RAM (1GB RAM): 720
720MHz Single Channel RAM 720
7.2GB Internal Memory (8GB): 7.20
720pHD @60fps (=1080p @20): 720
720pHD 2MP Frontfacing Cam: 720
7.2Mbs Speed (11.1/5.76Mbs): 7.20
720 nit Brightness 720
= Dell X/10 720
(The Three 720MHz Cores Actually Count for 3x 720 Anyway but ah well)
Successor (11 Months Afterwards): Dell X1080 [Dell Ex Ten Eighty]
Notable Changes:
Quadcore A15 @1080MHz (Intrensity Mod): 1080, 1080, 1080, 1080
10.8 Megapixel Camera (11MP): 1080
1GB FREE RAM (1.5GB RAM): 1080
10.8GB Internal Memory (16GB with ROM): 1080
1080p HD @ 60fps: 1080
1080p HD 4.3" Screen: 1080
1080 nit Brightness: 1080
= Dell X/10 1080

I would buy it if the desgin was slim and sexy.
Sent from my LS670 using XDA

I really hope you are going to maintain the 5 threads you started on your first day. :-/

mf2112 said:
I really hope you are going to maintain the 5 threads you started on your first day. :-/
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Lol

my dream phone:
-4.9" 720P SAMOLED+, with onscreen buttons, gorilla glass 2
-stock ICS, with tweaks to display the tablet interface, auto-fitted to screen, when connected to an external monitor (phone screen would become a touchpad)
-Samgsung's new quad core processor, 2 GB RAM
-64 GB onboard storage + micro SDcard
-Verizion LTE + worldphone HSPA+/WiMAX radios
-2MP FFC, 8.5 MP rear camera with HTC-quality camera tech, zero shutter lag.
-NFC, bluetooth 4.0, wifi b/g/n/ac
-power button and camera shutter button on the right side, volume on the left
-headphone jack on the bottom, microUSB 3.0 and micro HDMI on the lower left side.
-removable back cover with 2800MaH battery.
-carbon fiber body

mtmerrick said:
my dream phone:
-4.9" 720P SAMOLED+, with onscreen buttons, gorilla glass 2
-stock ICS, with tweaks to display the tablet interface, auto-fitted to screen, when connected to an external monitor (phone screen would become a touchpad)
-Samgsung's new quad core processor, 2 GB RAM
-64 GB onboard storage + micro SDcard
-Verizion LTE + worldphone HSPA+/WiMAX radios
-2MP FFC, 8.5 MP rear camera with HTC-quality camera tech, zero shutter lag.
-NFC, bluetooth 4.0, wifi b/g/n/ac
-power button and camera shutter button on the right side, volume on the left
-headphone jack on the bottom, microUSB 3.0 and micro HDMI on the lower left side.
-removable back cover with 2800MaH battery.
-carbon fiber body
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Sounds like the next nexus
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

i'll buy one

mf2112 said:
I really hope you are going to maintain the 5 threads you started on your first day. :-/
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If You See The Number Of Threads I Normally Drop On Other Sites This Would Be A Cakewalk. Don't Worry Guy.

mtmerrick said:
my dream phone:
-4.9" 720P SAMOLED+, with onscreen buttons, gorilla glass 2
-stock ICS, with tweaks to display the tablet interface, auto-fitted to screen, when connected to an external monitor (phone screen would become a touchpad)
-Samgsung's new quad core processor, 2 GB RAM
-64 GB onboard storage + micro SDcard
-Verizion LTE + worldphone HSPA+/WiMAX radios
-2MP FFC, 8.5 MP rear camera with HTC-quality camera tech, zero shutter lag.
-NFC, bluetooth 4.0, wifi b/g/n/ac
-power button and camera shutter button on the right side, volume on the left
-headphone jack on the bottom, microUSB 3.0 and micro HDMI on the lower left side.
-removable back cover with 2800MaH battery.
-carbon fiber body
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Well Then Why Not Go For One Of The New Medfield Devices?
They All Have 2GB Ram And Their CPU's Outrun About Everything Else Except The Krait Processors
Btw... HTC Camera Tech.... Isnt Very Good
Nice Specs Though

chaosm said:
i'll buy one
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If You Are Talking About Mine Then Thanks
I'll Get Right Onto Dell With My Business Proposition

Here's mine
- Snapdragon S4 MSM8974 Quad Core 2.5 Ghz
- Adreno 320
- 2GB Ram
- 14 mp 1080p back camera
- 3 mp 1080p front-facing camera
- 4" display 380 PPI.
- 5400 mAh battery

nonione said:
Sounds like the next nexus
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
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The Next Nexus Won't Have 2GB Ram
Ehem In My Uh Opinion

Spevky said:
Here's mine
- Snapdragon S4 MSM8974 Quad Core 2.5 Ghz
- Adreno 320
- 2GB Ram
- 14 mp 1080p back camera
- 3 mp 1080p front-facing camera
- 4" display 380 PPI.
- 5400 mAh battery
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Okay.... I Suppose Its Cool As I Didn't Mention To Be Realistic
Thing Is... Your Phone Will Burn The F*** Down With 4x 2.5GHz Cores
You Could Make It An 8 Core @ 1.2GHz/1.4GHz To Preserve The Battery
And The PPI Looks A Bit Dodgy. But They Are Great Specs Nonetheless

Shark_On_Land said:
I would buy it if the desgin was slim and sexy.
Sent from my LS670 using XDA
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Oh Its Slim And Sexy Alright
We Here At Dell Like To Cater To Everybody

I'm Not From Dell Btw
(Because I'm Somewhat Sure That One Of Their Representatives Is Lurking Around Somewhere In The Forums). Soorry Guys, Your Companies Name Just Fit Perfectly With The Name I Had In Mind

Shark_On_Land said:
I would buy it if the desgin was slim and sexy.
---->me too
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Spevky said:
Here's mine
- Snapdragon S4 MSM8974 Quad Core 2.5 Ghz
- Adreno 320
- 2GB Ram
- 14 mp 1080p back camera
- 3 mp 1080p front-facing camera
- 4" display 380 PPI.
- 5400 mAh battery
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WOOW!! 1080p 4" screen. It sonds nice but... Think it wouldnt be so good as it sonds.

In simple language
4.3" screen
Smoothness of Windows Phone
Apps of iOS
Customization of Android
Good Battery

seems good idea

lamborg said:
In simple language
4.3" screen
Smoothness of Windows Phone
Apps of iOS
Customization of Android
Good Battery
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Next MeeGo Or/And Tizen Device
Yay I'm Good

Apple iPhone 5 vs. HTC Vivid 4G LTE

DESIGN
Device type:
Smart phone
OS:
iOS (6)
Dimensions:
4.87 x 2.31 x 0.30 (123.8 x 58.6 x 7.6 mm)
Weight:
3.95 oz (112 g)
the average is 4.1 oz (118 g)
DISPLAY
Physical size:
4 inches
Resolution:
640 x 1136 pixels
Pixel density:
326 ppi
Technology:
IPS LCD
Colors:
16 777 216
Touchscreen:
Capacitive, Multi-touch
Features:
Light sensor, Proximity sensor
BATTERY
Stand-by time:
9.4 days (225 hours)
the average is 20 days (481 h)
Talk time (3G):
8.00 hours
the average is 7 h (403 min)
HARDWARE
System chip:
Apple A6
Processor:
Dual core, ARM Cortex-A15
Graphics processor:
Yes
Built-in storage:
16 GB
CAMERA
Camera:
8 megapixels
Flash:
LED
Aperture size:
F2.4
Features:
Back-illuminated sensor (BSI), Auto focus, Touch to focus, Digital image stabilization, Video stabilizer, Face detection, Geo tagging, High Dynamic Range mode (HDR), Panorama
Camcorder:
1920x1080 (1080p HD) (30 fps)
Features:
Video calling
Front-facing camera:
1.2 megapixels
MULTIMEDIA
Music player:
Filter by:
Album, Artist, Genre, Playlists
Features:
Album art cover, Background playback
Speakers:
Earpiece, Loudspeaker
YouTube player:
Yes
INTERNET BROWSING
Browser:
Yes
Supports:
HTML, HTML5
Built-in online services support:
YouTube (upload)
TECHNOLOGY
CDMA:
800, 1700/2100, 1900 MHz
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS:
850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
LTE:
700 MHz Class 13, 850 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz, 2100 MHz
Data:
LTE Cat3 Downlink 100 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS, EV-DO Rev.A, EV-DO Rev.B
Positioning:
A-GPS, Glonass, Cell ID, Wi-Fi positioning
Navigation:
Turn-by-turn navigation
specifications continue after the ad
PHONE FEATURES
Phonebook:
Unlimited entries, Caller groups, Multiple numbers per contact, Search by both first and last name, Picture ID, Ring ID
Organizer:
Calendar, Alarm, Document viewer (Office 2007, Office 2003, PDF), Calculator
Messaging:
SMS, MMS, Threaded view, Predictive text input
E-mail:
IMAP, POP3, SMTP, Microsoft Exchange
CONNECTIVITY
Bluetooth:
4.0
Wi-Fi:
802.11 a, b, g, n, n 5GHz
USB:
Yes
Connector:
Proprietary
Features:
USB charging
Other:
Computer sync, OTA sync
OTHER FEATURES
Notifications:
Music ringtones (MP3), Polyphonic ringtones, Vibration, Flight mode, Silent mode, Speakerphone
Additional microphone/s:
for Noise cancellation, Video recording
Sensors:
Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass
Hearing aid compatibility:
M4, T4
Voice dialing, Voice commands, Voice recording
AVAILABILITY
Officially announced:
12 Sep 2012
Scheduled release:
21 Sep 2012 (Official)
SHOPPING INFORMATION
Accessories:
Apple EarPods with Remote and Mic, Lightning to USB Cable, USB Power Adapter, Documentation
TO SEE THE FULL SPECIFICATIONS WITH IN-DEPTH DETAILS CLICK HERE.
Alternative variants
We list only the specs that are different than the main variant
Apple iPhone 5 32GB
Differences:
Built-in storage:
32 GB
Apple iPhone 5 64GB
Differences:
Built-in storage:
64 GB
Apple iPhone 5 (1428 model)(GSM + LTE)
Differences:
LTE:
700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Hearing aid compatibility:
M3, T4
Apple iPhone 5 (1429 model)(GSM+ LTE)
Differences:
LTE:
850 MHz, 1800 MHz, 2100 MHz
Despite our efforts to provide full and correct Apple iPhone 5 specifications, there is always a possibility of admitting a mistake. If you see any wrong or incomplete data, please LET US KNOW.
DESIGN
Device type:
Smart phone
OS:
Android (4.0.3, 2.3.4) Sense 3.6 UI
Dimensions:
5.07 x 2.64 x 0.44 (129 x 67 x 11 mm)
Weight:
6.24 oz (177 g)
the average is 4.1 oz (118 g)
DISPLAY
Physical size:
4.50 inches
Resolution:
540 x 960 pixels
Pixel density:
245 ppi
Technology:
S-LCD
Colors:
262 144
Touchscreen:
Capacitive, Multi-touch
Features:
Light sensor, Proximity sensor
BATTERY
Talk time:
4.60 hours
the average is 9 h (529 min)
Stand-by time:
12.2 days (293 hours)
the average is 20 days (481 h)
Capacity:
1620 mAh
HARDWARE
System chip:
Qualcomm Snapdragon S3 APQ8060
Processor:
Dual core, 1200 MHz, Scorpion
Graphics processor:
Adreno 220
System memory:
1024 MB RAM
Built-in storage:
16 GB
Storage expansion:
microSD, microSDHC up to 32 GB
CAMERA
Camera:
8 megapixels
Flash:
Dual LED
Features:
Auto focus
Camcorder:
1920x1080 (1080p HD) (30 fps), 1280x720 (720p HD) (60 fps)
Front-facing camera:
1.3 megapixels
MULTIMEDIA
Music player:
Filter by:
Album, Artist, Playlists
Features:
Album art cover, Background playback
Radio:
FM, Stereo, RDS
YouTube player:
Yes
INTERNET BROWSING
Browser:
Yes
Supports:
HTML, Flash
Built-in online services support:
Facebook, YouTube (upload), Picasa, Twitter
TECHNOLOGY
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS:
850, 1900, 2100 MHz
LTE:
700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Data:
LTE, HSPA (unspecified), HSUPA, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Positioning:
GPS
Navigation:
Yes
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PHONE FEATURES
Phonebook:
Caller groups, Multiple numbers per contact, Search by both first and last name, Picture ID, Ring ID
Organizer:
Calendar, Alarm, Calculator, World clock
Messaging:
SMS, MMS, Threaded view
E-mail:
IMAP, POP3, SMTP, Push e-mail
CONNECTIVITY
Bluetooth:
3.0
Wi-Fi:
802.11 b, g, n
USB:
USB 2.0
Connector:
microUSB
Features:
Mass storage device, USB charging
HDMI:
via microUSB
Other:
MHL, Tethering, Computer sync, OTA sync
OTHER FEATURES
Notifications:
Haptic feedback, Music ringtones (MP3), Polyphonic ringtones, Vibration, Flight mode, Silent mode
Additional microphone/s:
Yes
Sensors:
Accelerometer
Hearing aid compatibility:
M3, T3
Voice dialing, Voice commands, Voice recording, TTY/TDD
AVAILABILITY
Officially announced:
31 Oct 2011
SHOPPING INFORMATION
MSRP price:
$ 550
TO SEE THE FULL SPECIFICATIONS WITH IN-DEPTH DETAILS CLICK HERE.
This device is also known as HTC Raider, HTC Velocity 4G, HTC Raider 4G
Alternative variants
We list only the specs that are different than the main variant
HTC Raider 4G
Differences:
LTE:
850 MHz
HTC Velocity 4G
Differences:
Weight:
5.78 oz (164 g)
the average is 4.1 oz (118 g)
UMTS:
850, 2100 MHz
LTE:
1800 MHz
Data:
LTE, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s
Despite our efforts to provide full and correct HTC Vivid specifications, there is always a possibility of admitting a mistake. If you see any wrong or incomplete data, please LET US KNOW.​
Taken from phonearena.com

I know I'm a noob here, but I came from the 4S all the way down to the original, to now the Vivid. I don't think it's a fair comparison, the iPhone is nice, but its basically a wallpaper and apps. Whereas any android phone is, well, I'm preaching to the choir. Hardware specs are great and all, but I don't care if the iPhone has a 10ghz processor and 400gb of ram if it doesn't let me quickly check things with widgets or customize how I want. I jail broke all my iphones, but it still wasn't the same as what I can do with android.
I am happy I made the switch and in all honesty, if I was still with iPhone I'd be a little disappointed in the lack of overall end-user change.

gotzaDroid said:
I know I'm a noob here, but I came from the 4S all the way down to the original, to now the Vivid. I don't think it's a fair comparison, the iPhone is nice, but its basically a wallpaper and apps. Whereas any android phone is, well, I'm preaching to the choir. Hardware specs are great and all, but I don't care if the iPhone has a 10ghz processor and 400gb of ram if it doesn't let me quickly check things with widgets or customize how I want. I jail broke all my iphones, but it still wasn't the same as what I can do with android.
I am happy I made the switch and in all honesty, if I was still with iPhone I'd be a little disappointed in the lack of overall end-user change.
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IPhone 5 is outdated anyways...sgs3 that came out 3 months ago has better/faster hardware
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Sounds like a iphone 4s... cannot believe people keep being the same phone over and over again. Glad I got off the wagon on the first stop before Iphone 3g came out.

i agree with all of you, but now that steve jobs died apple started letting you unlock your iphones.. that used to be a b*tch before with ultrasn0w and all imo. so what im trying to sa is apple isnt as crappy as it used to be xD

mg2195 said:
IPhone 5 is outdated anyways...sgs3 that came out 3 months ago has better/faster hardware
Sent from my SGH-I997 using Tapatalk 2
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It's not really outdated. They don't need quad core processors in an iPhone, it would be overkill. Even with worse hardware, iPhones are more snappy and crash less. I love Android and all, but I can't deny the simplicity and stability of the iPhone.

slapshot30 said:
It's not really outdated. They don't need quad core processors in an iPhone, it would be overkill. Even with worse hardware, iPhones are more snappy and crash less. I love Android and all, but I can't deny the simplicity and stability of the iPhone.
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See this is the thing people always say...yet they have nothing to back up the stability of an iPhone...the thing with iPhones is that they don't display when there is a crash like android does...ios keeps crashes hidden making them appear stable..but just a few months ago there was a study done that showed that ios actually had more app crashes then android -so iPhones actually do crash more...not less
Now I haven't touched an iPhone5 yet...but the iPhone 4s that my friends have do not even come close to as smooth and snappy as my vivid...let alone the sgs3...that thing just blows everything out of the water...and I only messed around with my cousins att sgs3 -so no quad core...but that was on stock...I could only imagine how much snappier it would be an aosp
I can go on and on but I won't, mainly because these type of debates tend to get a little heated...happened over in the infuse thread, wasn't about iPhones...but it was about apple in general...it got out of hand and I had to request for the mods to close it
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i read at Engadget, not sure if true but, the A6 dual core processor is more of a enhanced cortex a9, much like the A5 or A5X, customized by Apple. the cortex a15 is supposed to be even better than the A6. i repeat, not sure if it's true but after the phone is released we will know for sure.
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See this is the thing people always say...yet they have nothing to back up the stability of an iPhone...the thing with iPhones is that they don't display when there is a crash like android does...ios keeps crashes hidden making them appear stable..but just a few months ago there was a study done that showed that ios actually had more app crashes then android -so iPhones actually do crash more...not less
Now I haven't touched an iPhone5 yet...but the iPhone 4s that my friends have do not even come close to as smooth and snappy as my vivid...let alone the sgs3...that thing just blows everything out of the water...and I only messed around with my cousins att sgs3 -so no quad core...but that was on stock...I could only imagine how much snappier it would be an aosp
I can go on and on but I won't, mainly because these type of debates tend to get a little heated...happened over in the infuse thread, wasn't about iPhones...but it was about apple in general...it got out of hand and I had to request for the mods to close it
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Like I said, I'm all android but we can't be naive. The Vivid is not smoother than an iPhone, scroll through your app drawer, contacts list, or browser and you'll see what I mean. Even the Galaxy Nexus I'm using now with project butter doesn't quite reach the smoothness of the iPhone when scrolling. The iPhone doesn't need maxed out specs for how the OS works.
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Like I said, I'm all android but we can't be naive. The Vivid is not smoother than an iPhone, scroll through your app drawer, contacts list, or browser and you'll see what I mean. Even the Galaxy Nexus I'm using now with project butter doesn't quite reach the smoothness of the iPhone when scrolling. The iPhone doesn't need maxed out specs for how the OS works.
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It may not need maxed out specs...but when in a market you always want to one up your competitors...something apple hasn't done in a while when it comes to hardware...android doesn't need a dual core or a gig of ram to run...but they have androids with dual cores and over a gig of ram because they can/bragging rights...its not a need its just there because they have the ability (I have an infuse that has a single core and only 750mb ram that runs jellybean extremely smooth)...and if an sgs3 and an iPhone are gonna be the same price ill go with the phone that has better hardware
Smoothness...I have no problem with contacts or browser...whether its zooming in or scrolling...completely butter smooth...I've used many iPhones (never owned one) and I'm anything but naive when it comes to mobile devices, in my opinion the vivid is smoother and snappier then the 4s and all its predecessors
I'm also the kind of a guy that wants (if not needs) the best of the best hardware...although I would never need this much power, I'm saving up for parts to build a custom pc that will have 8 cores (probably more by the time I get the money/a job...), 32gb of ram, 3tb HDD...etc not cause I need all that but cause I can...pretty much bragging rights...I wanna be that guy that has the fastest hardware -so that plays a huge role in my opinion...its just the way I am, I want the best
Everyone has differnt opinions, everyone wants there phone to do different things...one device can't satisfy everyone, get what you like and enjoy it...
I like the smoothness of the vivid, you like the smoothness of the iPhone -let's leave it at that...no amount of debating will change either of our minds
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Lmao at this thread. It's always iphone vs something. Considering the vivid isn't a flagship of well anything and the 5 is the flagship of Apple, they can't be compared imo. A more fair comparison would be vs the One X, Galaxy S3, or Galaxy Nexus. Just sayin
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This thread is dumb.
Why would you compare a phone that came out almost a year ago to the iPhone 5? That is asinine.
Try comparing it to the Galaxy Note 2 or the HTC One X.
Then ignore the gpu benchmark garbage because the iOS ui is driven by the gpu whereas android only recently got true hardware acceleration as of ICS, and even with it, the ui processes are mostly cpu based only using the gpu when necessary unless you enable the feature in the development settings to always use HA.
So, in short, stop being stupid and learn how to properly research and compare technologies instead of spouting spec sheets comparing a brand new flagship against a former flagship. Compare the Vivid to the 4S
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How bout apples new map app? Now iPhone 5 doesnt compare to any android IMO.
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I don't know why everyone thinks the vivid used to be a flag ship...it never was a flag ship...at least not in my opinion...it was just another phone with decent specs released to keep the funds coming in for htc...nothing about the vivid Is really flagship worthy...1.2ghz dual for stock...was common back when vivid was released, 1gb if ram...again was common, lte...only thing that put it above other Att phones at the time
Go ahead and disagree with me...I'm just stating my opinion...
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It was pretty much made just to show off lte
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It was pretty much made just to show off lte
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Exactly - in a lot of ways, it was a "middle of the road" device even back then.
What's interesting, though, is that it can still compete in a lot of ways with the latest offering from Apple.

Actually I think it was top of the line at release. The hardware was very good for the time, better than any other phone on AT&T. The only other competitor was the skyrocket. If they wouldn't have messed with the bootloader we would've had a huge dev community. Tons of devs pledged to come to the Vivid but they went back on their word after the bootloader fiasco.
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Cor-master said:
Lmao at this thread. It's always iphone vs something. Considering the vivid isn't a flagship of well anything and the 5 is the flagship of Apple, they can't be compared imo. A more fair comparison would be vs the One X, Galaxy S3, or Galaxy Nexus. Just sayin
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Its funny tho because the vivid is about the same or even better than the iphone 5
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agentfusion said:
This thread is dumb.
Why would you compare a phone that came out almost a year ago to the iPhone 5? That is asinine.
Try comparing it to the Galaxy Note 2 or the HTC One X.
Then ignore the gpu benchmark garbage because the iOS ui is driven by the gpu whereas android only recently got true hardware acceleration as of ICS, and even with it, the ui processes are mostly cpu based only using the gpu when necessary unless you enable the feature in the development settings to always use HA.
So, in short, stop being stupid and learn how to properly research and compare technologies instead of spouting spec sheets comparing a brand new flagship against a former flagship. Compare the Vivid to the 4S
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Dude. Go get a m'fn life and stop spouting **** about things you don't know about >.< the vivid is awesome, better than the 5 imo so yeah. Bye cx
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
ikr but the vivid can still compete against the iPhone 5 , even tho almost being 1yr old now
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[Q] What do you want to see on a 2015 smartphone? :)

Hey everyone! Hope everyone here is having a good day. So what would you guys/girls like to see on a 2015 smartphone?
I personally would like to see these specifications/features:
- Dimensions/size similar to a Nexus 5
- Unique design that stands out from other smartphones
- 5" Quad HD display
- Front-facing stereo speakers
- 8MP front-facing camera
- 21MP rear camera with OIS + 4K recording
- Stock Android
- Physical home button with pulse notification LED on it
- Aluminium bezel with a soft touch plastic back
- A multimedia panel like the Galaxy Edge but something less pronounced
- Snapdragon 810
- 4GB of RAM
- Adreno 430
- 4000mAh battery
- 16gb - 128gb storage capacity
- Variety of colour options
Yes... A long list of configuration. Boring, I know. So I decided to make a video on this 'Dream Smartphone' of mine, which I called the '2015 Concept Smartphone'.
I am new user to XDADEVELOPERS, so I cannot post links. Dam. But if you type in 'XTPN 2015 Concept Smartphone' in your YouTube search, it should be the first video.
And please do check it out! It'll help a lot
On a side note, please excuse my poor video editing and 3D modelling skills. I'm a first Industrial Design student so it's kind of all new to me. However, I'm open to all constructive criticism.
Thank you for passing by,
Phil

I would like to see more 3D screens on the market!

Thank you for this thread.
Honestly, mine isn't impressive but I think it could be made as a budget phone like the nexus 5.
4.7-5 inch screen in Nexus 5 form factor.
Android Lollipop of course
2 GB of ram.
Latest quad core
Minimum of 13 Megapixel back camera, 2 mega pixel front. Hopefully Optical Image Stabilization.
Stock android (Play edition?)
Front speakers
2,700 Mah battery
32GB starting storage, expandable up to 128GB SD card
Pulse notification light.
Soft buttons or even capacitive keys
1080p screen. Don't really care for Quad HD or 4k or whatever. I'd rather have battery.
To me that would be a fantastic phone.

- I would like to see fully waterproof phone that can stay into the water up to 30 meters for an indefinite period of time
- Battery that lasts more than 72 hours even after heavy usage and charges within five minutes
- REMOVABLE BATTERY
- DUAL ACTIVE SIM
I hope I am not asking for too much!

@goro11
That would awesome. Maybe like a 3DS-Phone? If you get my idea.
@Whiplashh
Love a budget phone. I own a Nexus 5 myself! I don't mind soft buttons or capacitive buttons either. But from my experience, I want something like the iPhone (home button + power button). The power button on my Nexus 5 got jammed a few months ago and there was no other way I could turn on the device. Luckily I had 3 months left on the warranty and got a replacement (thanks Google). And this is why I dig the buttons of the iPhone.
I would like to see an upcoming focused more the battery life too. I want something that would last a full day with medium usage. Not a full day as in MORNING-AFTERNOON, but a full-full day as in MORNING-MIDNIGHT. This would be great.
@maheshpatel
Sweet. As for the waterproofing, not only should they improve the duration of underwater usage and depth. They should also make the touchscreen usable whilst the device is in the water. Because most of the current waterproof smartphone(primarily the Sony Xperia Z line) has an unusable touchscreen whilst immersed underwater. Unless there is a device out there that has this ability?
Thanks for the replies everyone!!

The link to my '2015 Concept Phone' video. Finally!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZP5tiEko8&list=UUrXHEU3hnGj3McjXUctKHOA
Thanks

How about upgradable ram?
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I want to see:
HTC One M9:
Snapdragon 810
4Gb RAM
5.2, 2K display
13MP Back Camera, 4K Video 60 FPS
Even better stereo speakers with BoomSound
Even better sound in earphones
And be able to change HTC Sense on pure Android

5.7-5.9" (Anything below 5.7" = NOPE.)
4GB RAM
64Bit Snapdragon 810 or maybe even 815.
Adreno 430
32-128GB + MicroSD slot
21MP 4K OIS rear camera (I don't care about the front one, I don't do selfies.)
Preferably waterproof, but it's not a dealbraker.
So, basically, the Note 5.

HTC and Sony
I'd like to see HTC making some more phones except high-end ones and flagships, and also, I'd like to see black ui in sony's android 5.0 skin. 4.3 and 4.4.x is too....white-y.

XTPN said:
@Whiplashh
Love a budget phone. I own a Nexus 5 myself! I don't mind soft buttons or capacitive buttons either. But from my experience, I want something like the iPhone (home button + power button). The power button on my Nexus 5 got jammed a few months ago and there was no other way I could turn on the device. Luckily I had 3 months left on the warranty and got a replacement (thanks Google). And this is why I dig the buttons of the iPhone.
I would like to see an upcoming focused more the battery life too. I want something that would last a full day with medium usage. Not a full day as in MORNING-AFTERNOON, but a full-full day as in MORNING-MIDNIGHT. This would be great.
Thanks for the replies everyone!!
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I completely agree with you.
to be honest, I would even be extremely happy with an HTC M7 with a 13 megapixel camera. That would be a fantastic phone I think.

Project ARA
By 2015 end well see Project Ara phones selling those are perfect for geeks
we know Basically phone features ,specs Revolve around the Chipset. example i prefer 810SoC to future proof it
Price ,availability are my concerns
if i could create $450 phone initially
then $250 bucks per year I think its great
But I'm still Concerned about Build Quality,Phone Looks, button placement etc
I would like to split the Chin bezel Of Sharp Aqueos Crystal and place it as fore head then
That would be awesome !!!!

Thank you for the replies and all your great ideas!
@stress40
Up-gradable RAM would be nice. Like @[email protected] said. This is where project ARA comes into play. Where literally any specifications or feature can be upgraded, due its modular system.
But I'm still Concerned about Build Quality,Phone Looks, button placement etc
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I completely understand you. But would 'technotons' or phone geeks as you say be concerned about anything else besides the specification(performance wise; ram, cpu, gfx card, etc.) of the device?
5.7-5.9" (Anything below 5.7" = NOPE.)
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Why is that? I know it's a personal preference thing, but what's your reason?
I'd like to see HTC making some more phones except high-end ones and flagships, and also, I'd like to see black ui in sony's android 5.0 skin. 4.3 and 4.4.x is too....white-y.
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I'm completely with you on this one. I received the 5.0 update on my Nexus 5 a weeks ago. And to me, the white is too overpowering. I don't mind it. I just prefer black.
Thanks to everyone again!!!

Hi every one i have a question a little bit diferent XD
What phone you recomend me for this 2015?
Please not a samsung because in my country all the samsungs have an exynos and no a snapdragon, i want a snapdragon mobile to have more roms XD.
And oviusli a long battery life
Can eny one help me?
Sorry bad english mode on XD
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Expecting 0ne M9 and Sharp aqueos crystal 2015 edition

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Modular Phone !!
I would love to customize a phone in a way I always want.
6 inch screen.
13 MP camera.
A bigger battery maybe...
Project Ara is a great initiative by Google. Let's see how far it goes.

Hi every one i have a question a little bit diferent XD
What phone you recomend me for this 2015?
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Maybe look at reputable brands that are releasing flagship devices in 2015? Like HTC, Sony, Motorola, Google, Oppo, OnePlus, etc. Can't go wrong with that
Expecting 0ne M9 and Sharp aqueos crystal 2015 edition
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Sounds good. :good:
Project Ara is a great initiative by Google. Let's see how far it goes.
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I'll be aware of it too.

XTPN said:
Hey everyone! Hope everyone here is having a good day. So what would you guys/girls like to see on a 2015 smartphone?
I personally would like to see these specifications/features:
- Dimensions/size similar to a Nexus 5
- Unique design that stands out from other smartphones
- 5" Quad HD display
- Front-facing stereo speakers
- 8MP front-facing camera
- 21MP rear camera with OIS + 4K recording
- Stock Android
- Physical home button with pulse notification LED on it
- Aluminium bezel with a soft touch plastic back
- A multimedia panel like the Galaxy Edge but something less pronounced
- Snapdragon 810
- 4GB of RAM
- Adreno 430
- 4000mAh battery
- 16gb - 128gb storage capacity
- Variety of colour options
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I'd like to see a very capable phone aimed at the masses (I hate being asked to pay more than a ThinkPad laptop for a sim-free phone - )
- 4.7"-5.1" display with MotoX/MotoG-like easy to hold curves and backing
- Full HD resolution
- Snapdragon 610/615 performance or better
- Adreno 330 performance or better
- 3GB+ RAM
- minimum 16GB internal storage free for user (not 16GB total, 8/9/10/11 or whatever free)
- water/dust resistance ~IP68
- 3200mah+ removable battery
- rear camera that is at least as good as the Galaxy S4/iPhone4 from way back when (including near-instant response and optical image stabilisation)
- at least dual sim dual active with one easy swap sim slot like Nokia Asha phones (triple sim dual active would be even better)
- hardware switches (could be inside battery cover) to enable/disable camera, gps, bluetooth, mobile data, wifi, microphone
- samsung-like hardware home button (with capacitive on either side or not)
- full kernel source code
- full android device tree source code
- source code for the binary blobs (drivers etc) we have to deal with now

I mainly want more variety @ the $350 - $400 pricepoint. I don't see the big names suddenly dropping their prices into this range but if they were to make a few cuts to their flagship's specs, it could work. As it has already been mentioned multiple times, Google's project is very intriguing. That would be great to see if get off the ground.

@allyouwant
I wouldn't mind that either. Let's hope they come out soon.
@MiyagiSan
Nice one.
- minimum 16GB internal storage free for user (not 16GB total, 8/9/10/11 or whatever free)
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Totally understand and agree with what you said here. Most devices are like that and it sucks. Phone companies should make space for the pre-installed OS and other software's outside of the specified storage. If you get me.
@confed
Very true. I reckon the price tag of most devices turns most people off. That being said, I was hoping the N6 followed a similar price as its predecessor. I don't blame the rise in price, just disappointed a little.
Thanks for passing by everyone. And to those who haven't seen my video yet, check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZP5tiEko8
And finally MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM AUSTRALIA!!!!