Since I got my hands on an HTC One I haven't stopped messing with it by switching from one ROM to another, and I can't decide which ROM should I stay with.
When I'm using a Sense based ROM, there are moments when I miss some features from Stock Android, and when I'm on SA I miss Sense's features. So I keep constantly switching from one to another(I mean switching/converting my phone to the GPE one and vice versa).
This ROM switching issue has almost got my phone unusable several times.
I need to stop in order to avoid getting my phone into a really serious problem.
So I ask you, guys:
Which ROM do you think it's best and why, in comparison to the other one? (Sense 6 vs Stock Android)
Thanks in advance.
The best way for you to decide which to use would probably be to list what features you miss from both Sense and Stock and then see which features, out of those listed, you feel is more important/you miss the most.
Personally, I much prefer Sense 6 than GPE, AOSP & AOKP. When I first got the M7, I was spending a hell of a lot of time flashing different ROMs and seeing what my experience of each was like. I found that Sense 5 (and all other Sense updates since then) simply performed better. The main difference was the smoothness of the ROM.
I'd tried a couple of different GPE ROMs and, while they were stable and really smooth, they just weren't quite as smooth as Sense felt. The difference was even more noticeable when I tried AOSP ROMs.
The other main reason why I much prefer Sense is because a few of the Sense features only work on Sense. As that was the case, staying on Sense ROMs ever since just makes the most "sense" in my opinion
I'll have to say it's almost like sense has more 'features' than other comparable roms. It feels better built and looks better. On my M8 I'm running sense, and that's my opinion.
Well if we are just venting. My opinion is the GPE and AOSP versions are just too plain. The first thing you do on GPE is go looking for a different launcher / camera and music player. In Sense you already have a great camera / music app / gallery / Dialer / and launcher. The settings area is well laid out and blinkfeed is usable after all the improvements they have made. I have Samsung / LG / and Moto devices and they are all awkward and clumsy compared to Sense. LG would be my second favorite and Samsung and Motorola tied for last.
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when the nexus s was released i was a god send for galaxy s devs because they had all they stuff they need (source) to have a very good implementation of cm7
when the galaxy s2 was released it was hell for devs they ended up signing a petition with +10000 signatures just to get the kernel source and that took them over 6 months or so (as far as i can remember )
now with the HTC one almost as the same as the nexus 4's hardware , no ?
are there big architectural changes?
could they use stuff from the nexus 4 to make cm10.1 work flawlessly ?
The hardware of the n4 and the one are very very very different , so it won't benefit from the n4.
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Why did you think a HTC built phone would benefit from a LG built phone.
The soc isnt even in the same Series Never mind all the camera changes. There nothing alike
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An open SoC from QC is a step in the right direction, however sense kernels are quite different from those needed for CM/AOSP roms, so it's unlikely it will be perfect. The HOX still has niggles with CM today because some of the blobs just don't play along with non-sense roms.
These days if you want decent CM, I think you just need to buy a Nexus. If only the N4 were better I'd buy one...
Currently tossing up between this phone and the Xperia Z, if I get this it'll be under the mindset that i'll probably be running sense on it forever (annoyingly).
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what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
CursiveQ said:
what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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It's personal preference. CM10 roms are typically alot smaller and tend to use less ram so can aid device performance. Some people also just like running a rom like they would get on a nexus. Of course this all depends on CM10/10.1 being decent on the phone.. if it doesn't work well because of sense kernels, then it's not really worth it.
If you want to run excellent CM roms, I would suggest waiting until kernel sources are out and see what devs can do, or just buy a nexus (though there's no nexus as good as the One).
i'm currently running aokp on my One X. the only real reason i flash roms is so i can have the status bar, settings, dialer, phonebook etc look like stock android.
is it possible to have a sense based rom that will be skinned to look like stock android? with the status bar, settings, dialer and all that jazz?
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i'm currently running aokp on my One X. the only real reason i flash roms is so i can have the status bar, settings, dialer, phonebook etc look like stock android.
is it possible to have a sense based rom that will be skinned to look like stock android? with the status bar, settings, dialer and all that jazz?
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Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
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mattman83 said:
Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
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ah.. bummer. i really hated the sense dialer
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Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
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I would disagree with that to a point. I've used sense ROMs where, when you push AOSP contacts.apk to /system/app, you get get AOSP dialer and contacts. Same with mail is possible, if I remember correctly. I've even seen the AOSP settings used in sense (though, it may have been just themed that way) in jellybomb domination ROM. I forget exactly, it's been a while. I run just AOKP or PACman on my Evo lte. I buy HTC for the hardware, not the software. But, sense 5 is intriguing and seems to resemble AOSP more than in the past, but with the blink feed and Zoe (which is what I do find intriguing).
From my Evo LTE, yup.
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what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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in cm your're guaranteed to miss out on some key features. For instance, with the HTC EVO 4g LTE (and the one x and all its variants as far as i know), CM cannot incorporate the sense based cameras into the rom, so your're really getting something like 70% of the image quality because nobody's been able to figure out how to use the separate, Sense-designated optics hardware with an aosp rom. You're obviously missing out on hmdi/mhl out so forget about connecting to your tv. There are issues with using mass storage from sdcard (probably not going to be a problem here though), amongst others.
CM is on the other hand, generally more customizable and smoother to run than sense based roms, but there are some sense roms (like VIPER 4G 3.X) that are imo right on par with CMX when it comes to great custom experience yet do not omit important hardware features.
Hey guys,
since i'm currently a flashaholic and dont want to stick with sense rom's (i just dont like them, can't say why). I'm trying around a bit, mostly with GPe rom's.
But whats the real difference between GPe and CM based rom's?
- Which rom/version is more stable?
- Which rom/version got the better perfomance/battery life?
I know that CM based roms are having more features and looking nice (at least for some peoples).
But i want a overall good performance, stability and moderate batterylife.
Thanks in advice
kewkie said:
Hey guys,
since i'm currently a flashaholic and dont want to stick with sense rom's (i just dont like them, can't say why). I'm trying around a bit, mostly with GPe rom's.
But whats the real difference between GPe and CM based rom's?
- Which rom/version is more stable?
- Which rom/version got the better perfomance/battery life?
I know that CM based roms are having more features and looking nice (at least for some peoples).
But i want a overall good performance, stability and moderate batterylife.
Thanks in advice
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You've to try the roms for choose which is better.
Howeve the GE have some features like beats audio and some thing from sense, and the update are from htc with the latest release of android.
The CM rom have some features like the editing of status bar and so on, and are built from developers
Well, i dont hear that much music, so beats-audio is useless, not at all, but a bit.
I'm tired of testing around
Just thought you guys can share your experience with some of your used roms
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Well, i dont hear that much music, so beats-audio is useless, not at all, but a bit.
I'm tired of testing around
Just thought you guys can share your experience with some of your used roms
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The problem is that mod don't like thread as: which rom is better for you?
This rom have a better battery then this?
And questions like this
Yeah i know, but it actually isnt a thread like this
I just wanna hear some experience
Google play edition roms are built on HTC's framework, or they were when it released. AOSP roms are actually built from AOSP framework using the libs and drivers and device trees that have been custom built for the one.
So the foundation of the Google Play edition, the part the user never sees, is a lot closer to stock sense from HTC minus the interface and launcher, while CM and other AOSP roms are built from AOSP style source code (CM from their source, others from their own custom source code some of which is truly custom and some of which is modified from CM source)
There's a lot of advantages to running AOSP source code based romms if you're going for an AOSP rom, but theres also a lot of users that can't use adb or fastboot and don't want to learn how and don't care to read into a rom thread, and the google play edition stuff is nice for people who want a phone with a stock google launcher, that doesn't have the sense interface heft, and just want things to work with an out of the box type experience. You know the type, they don't do a clean install for six months and wonder why the headlights in their car blink and settings force closes when they press the volume rocker.
There are certain apps that will work with the GPE and others that will only work with AOSP source, so on and so fourth. Half the people are better suited for GPE rom's and stockish foundations and then the other chunk of the people only buy their phone so they wipe it till its raw getting HTC stuff off and get custom AOSP source based roms on instead. It all depends on the user and what's better fitted for their experience.
In your case if you're not running sense roms at all and you like to follow development from what I've seen because I've seen you on here a good bit, I'd get into some real AOSP for a bit and see how you like it. The good thing about AOSP is that it's infinitely customizable and any user that wants too could be theming in a week and compiling/merging source in a month and cooking roms for their personal use. Most people way less than that. That doesn't mean that the devs publishing roms don't have a lot of time in them, it's just much easier to compile and work with the source than the HTC source is and the senseish framework.
Thanks @CharliesTheMan Thats a pretty good answer
Well i liked CM/AOSP rom's on my other phones and never used stock-ish ones.
Well, mainly i use my phone for phoning around (no sh*t! lol), social networking, taking photos and derping around a bit.
I never used the sense-features (blink feed, zoe, beats-audio etc. - i like the gallery, but honestly.. i like quickpic much more, i like it minimalism), neither like the look of sense.
I'm just a bit scared of using an AOSP rom, i dont really now why.. maybe scared of phone-signal-breaks, quality breaks or something like this.
But to be honest, i have to test it by myself i know, like the performance, stability and battery - its stuff i have to test and figure out by myself, because everyone is using the phone not in the same way and everyone got other recommendation from a rom and i got the point you wanted to say with your post
Hey guys,
I'm currently using one of the first ROM's that came out for the M7 - the GEonSense Rom - with (I think) the Bulletproof kernel for underclocking/BLN.
With 4.3's release and the additional S-Off stuff, I figured it might be good to get those going soon as well.
So, my question for you guys is this - which new rom should I flash?
What I'm looking for:
- AOSP lockscreen - why I went with GE on Sense in the first place
- stable - GEonSense has so far been rock-solid, without the random apps FC'ing
- everything working - I use the camera, the IR sensor, the bluetooth, the wifi, what not. I don't need cutting edge performance, but I need the various pieces of hardware working.
It's cool if there's not really anything that checks these boxes, but thanks for reading, and double thanks in advance for a response.
I've had my one for a month and have tried quite a few roms, but my favorite that I recently installed is the ViperOne rom, Its a sense rom. Don't know if it fits your needs, but its a very good rom, alot of customizing built in, check it out.
I've only had my One for about 10 days, so I'm no expert. But I've been here on XDA since 2008 and just came from a DNA, so not too far off the mark. I've been playing with all the One ROMs I can find here and I've been really impressed with, and have settled on, the SinLess ROM for now. I may change, but it's got everything I want (except Zoe, since it's not Sense) and everything it does have works. I know you asked for Sense, so I'm probably not helping much, but I like Sense as well and I find I really like this GE ROM.
i've had my one for a few months now and tested a lot of roms even kitkat ones. however theres always one rom i revert to every single time and that is Android Revolution HD 31.5 with the bulletproof kernal. very, very stable and definitely my favorite rom. no aosp lockscreen but it has sense.
Well, Viper one has aosp lockscreen and sense 5.5, so go for it, you'll love the possibilities of what you can do
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Hey there,
i'm having my HTC for around 2 months now and never hold a senserom more than 15 minutes.
So, no matter on what forum i look, sense roms are much more popular and famous than GPE or even CM roms.
With my older Phones (Galaxy ace, Galaxy S plus, Galaxy S3) CM roms were (or still are) more popular, but on the HTC sense roms are much more popular. Whats the point?
I mean.. ok no doubt, the sense camera is awesome! But blinkfeed? Who needs it? Or at least who is using it?
Other than that.. Beats audio? GPE Rom has it too, just without the icon on the statusbar.
GPE Roms are faster and not full of bloat (IMO!)
So what's the real point behind this?
It's NOT a fighting thread or a thread like "OMG! Sense roms suck QQ mimimi" NO! I just want to know why you guys like sense roms much more? I'm just curious
I prefer the UI, being able to arrange my apps in folders without using the home screen. I actually use BlinkFeed quite a for my technology/science news.
I don't really find any bloat.
Most people buy HTC because of Sense, atleast I do. I prefer HTC's style over any other oem's.
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Most people buy HTC because of Sense, atleast I do. I prefer HTC's style over any other oem's.
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+1
kewkie said:
Hey there,
i'm having my HTC for around 2 months now and never hold a senserom more than 15 minutes.
So, no matter on what forum i look, sense roms are much more popular and famous than GPE or even CM roms.
With my older Phones (Galaxy ace, Galaxy S plus, Galaxy S3) CM roms were (or still are) more popular, but on the HTC sense roms are much more popular. Whats the point?
I mean.. ok no doubt, the sense camera is awesome! But blinkfeed? Who needs it? Or at least who is using it?
Other than that.. Beats audio? GPE Rom has it too, just without the icon on the statusbar.
GPE Roms are faster and not full of bloat (IMO!)
So what's the real point behind this?
It's NOT a fighting thread or a thread like "OMG! Sense roms suck QQ mimimi" NO! I just want to know why you guys like sense roms much more? I'm just curious
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For me I just like it due to the fact its something different. My last 3 devices have had things like CM, SlimBean, etc. which are all more or less stock. I feel sense is minimal enough that its still snappy (not like touchwiz IMO) and I kind of like the sense lock screen on how it displays information. Thats just my opinion at least
I prefer aosp roms too. But WiFi calling is a must for me, and no other carrier has better rates.
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This thread is the equivalent of saying "why do people like different stuff than me"
Short answer: aosp got boring.
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Had gs2. Cm was the only way to get on point android updates that year.
Sense 5+ has been great and HTC is really on the ball with updates this year.
kewkie said:
Hey there,
i'm having my HTC for around 2 months now and never hold a senserom more than 15 minutes.
So, no matter on what forum i look, sense roms are much more popular and famous than GPE or even CM roms.
With my older Phones (Galaxy ace, Galaxy S plus, Galaxy S3) CM roms were (or still are) more popular, but on the HTC sense roms are much more popular. Whats the point?
I mean.. ok no doubt, the sense camera is awesome! But blinkfeed? Who needs it? Or at least who is using it?
Other than that.. Beats audio? GPE Rom has it too, just without the icon on the statusbar.
GPE Roms are faster and not full of bloat (IMO!)
So what's the real point behind this?
It's NOT a fighting thread or a thread like "OMG! Sense roms suck QQ mimimi" NO! I just want to know why you guys like sense roms much more? I'm just curious
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For starters Beats sounds a lot better on Sense roms to my ears, also stock Sense is pretty fluid if I'm being honest. GPE roms are faster in a sense but the difference is hardly noticeable and in fact I find the stock sense gallery to be a lot smoother than the stock gallery on the GPE roms. I have a lot of photos and whilst there isn't any lag on Sense I find a bit of lag in the stock gallery.
In regards to Samsung phones, CM was popular because people grew sick of how bloated Touchwiz is. Sense is of course larger than any GPE rom but they really nailed it in terms of speed, and its certainly faster than Touchwiz. I also find the battery life on GPE roms to be worse than on Stock sense. I'm currently on Sinless (GPE rom) and it's fast, like all other GPE roms. Still, I miss the Sense gallery, loudspeaker quality, longer battery life and data speed (my data is a bit slower on GPE roms).
I'm in the middle by the way. I switch roms quite often (from Sinless, to Insertcoin to ViperOne) and each version has their own pro's and cons but I certainly don't feel like I really really need to flash a GPE rom or CM unlike when I had my Galaxy S3
Thanks guys
And for the troll.. no its not "why do people like different stuff than me"... read the first post again, ty..
@Galactus Really? well, i never noticed the faster data speed, but what i noticed is that i got a more stable data, on GPE roms i have all 4 full bars.. on sense roms i have like 2-3 bars.. dont know why :/ using latest sense firmware.
Anyways, thanks again
kewkie said:
Thanks guys
And for the troll.. no its not "why do people like different stuff than me"... read the first post again, ty..
@Galactus Really? well, i never noticed the faster data speed, but what i noticed is that i got a more stable data, on GPE roms i have all 4 full bars.. on sense roms i have like 2-3 bars.. dont know why :/ using latest sense firmware.
Anyways, thanks again
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Best way to check is using an app or going into settings, about, status and seeing if your actually getting worse signal or not. My signal is the same on both but data definitely seems a bit faster (with less latency) on Sense roms
I really can't live without the sense camera. I fell in love with GPE, but the camera is a huge part of my smartphone use so had to revert to sense. If someone could port the sense camera again then I would spend all my time on GPE!
I check Blinkfeed like 3 times a day. I thinks it's very good
the reason i wont change is because i love blinkfeed ,it brings some animation to a boring otherwise OS ,i have tried every latest phone available and find the HTC One the best.
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the reason i wont change is because i love blinkfeed ,it brings some animation to a boring otherwise OS ,i have tried every latest phone available and find the HTC One the best.
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+1 I love HTC's Sense and the One's hardware + build quality. I believe to be a perfect phone!
You will get a thousand different reasons from many people. Sense is more popular then say TouchWiz from samsung due to it being far more fluid. Htc Started on Sense long before android came to light so it is a bit more polished to some. But just like TW it adds features to the device that some people like.
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Dear Friends,
I know there is no straight forward answer to this question as we all have different preferences but I would like to know what roms you are using and which ones are worth recommending to people including me who have just rooted their device. There are SO many roms out there and many are similar feature wise but some that are different are either buggy or doesn't work as stated. In other words, there is so much to choose from so trying out every new ROM feels pretty much the same with few or less customization options.
I have a difficult time sticking to one rom as so far I have only tried ViperOne, Android Revolution and Cyanogenmod. ViperOne had a lot of features which didn't work and it was kinda buggy, Cyanogenmod is nice & fast but its way too simple and then Android Revolution seemed to have a feel of stock rom and it was quite stable but then again it all felt the same. I am yet to come across a single rom which makes me feel like "this is the one for me".
Can you suggest any roms or different kernels to use with that particular rom that has good UI, is user and battery friendly? And also that it is stable with the features it provides, which is not buggy.
Exodus is the ROM I would recommend with a theme of your choice.
I would recommend Android Revolution HD because it is as stable as you said. I bought the M7 because of the nice UI, BoomSound, Zoe etc. If you want to keep this features you should stay as stock as possible
So i would stay on Stock or ARHD and use Xposed Framework to mod the hell out of your phone. On ARHD there ist a great toolbox called Sense Toolbox which uses Xposed and offers a wide variety of tweaks and shotcuts. Stock Android is boring and looks the same on every phone so keep the uniqueness of your HTC. Just my opinion