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Sound with the HTC supplied headphones is OK, but I've just tried some Goldring gx200's and there was hardly any bass and overall poorer sound
What is the problem?
Are you using the built in Audio player?
Did you enable the 'Audio Booster'?
It is a known problem that this happens. You need to disable the Audio Booster as it has a bug that ruins the bass.
This has been talked about over and over again!
I have seen the audio booster problem mentioned, but I did not find any posts where it mentioned this problem with other headphone makes.
In my case audio booster was off for both headphones
It is a software bug, therefore it affects all headphones, no matter who made them.
If you enabled Audio booster at any point EVER, then it will screw the bass up.
If i remember rightly, you have to turn it on and then off again while the headphones are connected and it should solve it.
I have not used Audio booster at all. If I use the HTC supplied headphones then bass is fine, but if I use the third party ones there is no bass.
I can't see why it would make any difference, unless there is some electronics within the HTC phones to alter the sound/signal
With Radio or Media Player?
PaulusUK said:
I have not used Audio booster at all. If I use the HTC supplied headphones then bass is fine, but if I use the third party ones there is no bass.
I can't see why it would make any difference, unless there is some electronics within the HTC phones to alter the sound/signal
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Are you talking about listening to radio or to the mediaplayer?
Because only the orginial headset and some replacemnets have an radio antenna in the headset cord.
I am using the RC E100 with my own Sony MDR-ELX90P headphones, and even without Audio Booster, I'm getting plenty of bass.
I can't understand why it would be different for you.
How are you actually connecting your 3rd party headphones by the way?
I am using an adapter to convert the mini-usb to standard headphone plug. This adapter is working OK on my Trinity, and the headphones work OK on other devices.
So its a bit odd.
Sound is from mp3's, I'll try the radio later
Are you sure by chance you do not have a fake headphone?
I bought a fake (I did not know that before) Sony Ericsson headphone, and it has no bass...
Philippe
We are using SRS WOW 2.1 (this disables Audiobooster automaticly), to play around with different sound patterns.
Our new Bluetooth headphones must be able dealing with extreme low bass and high trebles untill we got over modulation at high volume.
We also tested competitive headsets from Sony, Motorola and some cheap Chinese copy-cat though they all give a more than average deep bass.
There is somewhere in another thread mentionning about "gradually decreasing bass" each time when another applic is opened (not the specific audio booster bug)
sorry, couldn't fins the thread anymore
I have a friend who has a iPhone and he was explaining to me how he wants to switch to android but the only reason he wont is because lack of music recording ability on android. He says he can justhook his guitar up to iPhone and record he says there are apps like amplitude and others that can make iPhone like a 12 track mixer. can a phone like n 1 evo etc.. handle this.? Is it only a matter oflack of app development? Or hardware issue.? http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3434
I have a friend who has a iPhone and he was explaining to me how he wants to switch to android but the only reason he wont is because lack of music recording ability on android. He says he can justhook his guitar up to iPhone and record he says there are apps like amplitude and others that can make iPhone like a 12 track mixer. can a phone like n 1 evo etc.. handle this.? Is it only a matter oflack of app development? Or hardware issue.?
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Shouldn't be hardware by any means... but I do too wish I could have this ability. I would say its lack of development. that's one of the big things I moss ability iPhone was a little app called "fourtrack", you could record anything you wanted, bounce it, and the sound quality was amazing. /:
anybody know of a solution?
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I think /hope we could just port apps or mybe the increase in popularity of android we will see development like this.
Just about the only thing I miss from my iPhone is a simple streaming internet radio app called Fstream. It could stream any internet radio station and could also RECORD any station.
I found Cherry Rplayer which is great but it doesn't record. I found Radio RIP, but it's complicated & not very user friendly - and most stations I've tried to add are not supported. :-(
So who should we talk to about getting some nice music apps? Sonoma Wireworks makes fourtrack for iPhone. I'm gonna email them.
There's no line-in jack on N1 - just a crappy mic.
Thus no music recording/tracking apps!
We'll have to wait for devices with a line-in jack before we'll see this.
Of course the n1 has a line in. that's how the headset that came with it works
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bajansurfer said:
Of course the n1 has a line in. that's how the headset that came with it works
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point!
bajansurfer said:
Of course the n1 has a line in. that's how the headset that came with it works
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If you can plug a stereo LINE LEVEL signal into it and get reasonable fidelity, fine. But if it will only accept a mono mic, then I wouldn't call it a "line in".
It's either a mono mic jack or a stereo line-in. My money's on the mono mic jack.
RashaMatt said:
If you can plug a stereo LINE LEVEL signal into it and get reasonable fidelity, fine. But if it will only accept a mono mic, then I wouldn't call it a "line in".
It's either a mono mic jack or a stereo line-in. My money's on the mono mic jack.
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whether it be mono or stereo it is still a line-in. most (if not all) guitars output a mono signal anyway, which is what the OP was asking about.
I picked up a Vivid over the weekend and overall I'm thrilled. The only area that is lacking is BT quality when paired with my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-Z110 updated to the Z130 firmware). Granted, these units have gotten bad reviews for their BT quality, HOWEVER, my old device worked well. I used to have an HTC "Pure" running Windows Mobile and got no complaints for call quality.
My wife now says that this phone is echoing really badly. I can't hear it on my end, all sounds well. When I disable BT and just call her directly from the handset, all is well.
Are there any tweaks or settings that can be changed in Android and on the Vivid specifically? I read about someone adjusting the "BT gain" before they paired their device, but I can't find such a setting.
Thanks,
-Brett.
+1 on this. My stereo has a Mic volume adjust that helps a little, but it seems to be bad when I'm on the highway. Though I've always had this problem with Android. my old windows 6.5 phones were just fine.
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Instead of using BT for music from my phone, I just hit the Sirius/XM button on the sound system, or plug my iPod directly into the sound system. Of course, I had to buy a new vehicle to get this capability.
PS: The Vivid does work well via BT for hands-free phone calls, also built into the new vehicle.
brucegil said:
Instead of using BT for music from my phone, I just hit the Sirius/XM button on the sound system, or plug my iPod directly into the sound system. Of course, I had to buy a new vehicle to get this capability.
PS: The Vivid does work well via BT for hands-free phone calls, also built into the new vehicle.
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I re-read my first post and realized I might not have been as clear as I could be. I'm speaking strictly about phone call quality, not BT audio streaming. I tried audio streaming once and it sounded OK, but that's not what I'm referring to here.
When talking on the phone using the Pioneer AVIC z110 as a BT headset the person that I'm calling reports a lot of echo on their end, to the point where it's almost unusable. Things sound mostly fine on my end.
So the question stands - are there any (hidden?) settings or adjustments that can be made on the Vivid, or in Android in general?
Thanks,
-Brett.
not to my knowledge, no adjustments. But if you're using your headset, have you used it on other phones without this problem? If there's an echo, it makes me think maybe the phone mic is active while it should be only the BT mic that is. Maybe try covering the phone mic with your thumb or something and ask the person on the other end if that does anything to take away the echo?
Yea I'm getting the same feedback about phone calls. Music quality is great except when I use navigation. My streak would lower music when it would speak instructions. My vivid doesn't.
Reclaim said:
Yea I'm getting the same feedback
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Pun intended?
radi0chik said:
not to my knowledge, no adjustments. But if you're using your headset, have you used it on other phones without this problem? If there's an echo, it makes me think maybe the phone mic is active while it should be only the BT mic that is. Maybe try covering the phone mic with your thumb or something and ask the person on the other end if that does anything to take away the echo?
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I used the same BT setup on my old Windows Mobile phone with no complaints.
Maybe you're on to something. I had assumed that the phone would mute its internal microphone when connected to a BT device. Maybe that's not the case? I'll try covering the phone's mic and see if that makes a difference.
Thanks,
-Brett.
No luck. I tried both covering the Mic and taking the phone out of the car entirely. It made no difference in call quality.
Next step is to pair my wife's blackberry to the car and see if that works better. Need to determine if it's the phone or the car.
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radi0chik said:
Pun intended?
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I'm a real comedian lol
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zzoinks said:
I re-read my first post and realized I might not have been as clear as I could be. I'm speaking strictly about phone call quality, not BT audio streaming. I tried audio streaming once and it sounded OK, but that's not what I'm referring to here.
When talking on the phone using the Pioneer AVIC z110 as a BT headset the person that I'm calling reports a lot of echo on their end, to the point where it's almost unusable. Things sound mostly fine on my end.
So the question stands - are there any (hidden?) settings or adjustments that can be made on the Vivid, or in Android in general?
Thanks,
-Brett.
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Sorry for being a smart-aleck. Actually, on a hand-free BT call last night I noticed a bit of an echo. I need to make some more calls to see if it continues. I never had that with the HD2 in 15 montrhs of use. Also, I noticed that the phone rings directly as well as through the car's sound system when I recieve a call. Again, I don't remember my HD2 doing that.
Minor update: I've found that it might be related to the Android Bluetooth in call volume setting. It seems like if I lower the volume during a call (via the volume rocker on the phone, not form the car's head unit) it helps with the echo problem. The problem is that this volume level resets itself to the max every time I pair with the car.
Is there any way to force Android to keep a lower volume level for the BT headset? I tried an app called Bluetooth Volume, but it didn't affect the BT Headset volume.
Thanks,
-Brett.
Hello everyone!
So last weekend I finally received this: LINK (EBAY)
I am totally new at Android Auto, though I have had several Andrioid Phones, as well as an Android tablet. Now I have an iPhone SE - so yes, I turned to the dark side. Not important here and now.
My question is - When I had both phone and tablet with android, I remember the many many possibilities I had with rooting etc. What do I have with my Radio? Can I root it? Can it be even better?
The only negative thing I have to say, is that the sound quality via bluetooth is quite poor - especially in the higher notes. The bass however, is still awesome on bluetooth. The sound quality is only bad on bluetooth - which tells me there is something wrong with the bluetooth hardware og the bluetooth software. Very sad to find out - I listen to bluetooth music 90% of the time. That issue let me to thinking: Is there a way to fix it? Maybe a root or something?
Also - are there some must-have-apps I should know about?
Looking forward to hear from you.
Thanks.
I have noticed the same, however it is not related to Bluetooth, the BT quality is fine, the sound quality problem begins when Android Auto is activated. Try using Spotify with the standard BT connectivity. Then test the same song with the USB cable connected and using AA. The sound quality is fully degraded when using AA compared to the BT quality. I Use Viper4Android and the drop in quality is even bigger since Viper4Android doesn't catch the sound stream.
Any idea out there?
By the way, I'd rename the subject of this thread since the sound quality problem is not related to Bluetooth but with Android Auto.
Same, don't think there's a way around it.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/android-auto/1OVZA4SUG-g
Second comment on that article, has to do with digital vs analog and our built in equalizer. You'd think digital would sound better
sushi143 said:
Same, don't think there's a way around it.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/android-auto/1OVZA4SUG-g
Second comment on that article, has to do with digital vs analog and our built in equalizer. You'd think digital would sound better
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BT is also a digital stream and sound is excellent, even more when paired with Viper4Android. Nonetheless V4A doesn't seem to catch the digital output stream used by AA.
Maybe it's just usb? My thumb drive doesn't sound as good as my Bluetooth with the same song either.
Yea, audio is transmitted via USB, so in theory the quality should be even better since it is transmitted without the SBC compression like with BT (unless you have aptx). If your in-car has a built in equalizer i would advice to use that one
ktwo said:
Yea, audio is transmitted via USB, so in theory the quality should be even better since it is transmitted without the SBC compression like with BT (unless you have aptx). If your in-car has a built in equalizer i would advice to use that one
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The theory is not working in this case, most probably because we don't know the root cause of this weird and annoying issue.
Car equalizer is not working when there are missing frequencies. BT works perfectly, but when playing the same song, with the same device and app (Spotify, music player, TuneIn) the quality is severely degraded when using AA. No deep bass and no treble. Total loss of both ends of the audible spectrum while BT quality is superb (compared to the crappy AA quality)
I have tested this issue with a Chevy Malibu 2017, Chevy Impala 2017, Ford Fusion 2018, Buick regal 2017 and Hyundai Sonata 2018. Same degradation when using AA with different head units, different apps, Axon 7. I hardly believe it is a device issue, I believe it is a problem with the protocol. Are you experiencing this issue? I am using RR ROM.
Hello all,
Have been using non EMUI ROM's for a while now as I'm sure many of you have as EMUI isn't everyone's favourite cup of tea.
One thing missing is the stereo speakers which although doesn't break functionality it certainly wouldn't be a terrible idea to have it working.
Anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
@kessaras @moto999999
If you guys have any thoughts i and many many others would greatly appreciate your input and help with getting it working.
Any testing you need, im here as I'm sure others will be.
Many thanks in advance.
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What's the problem? I haven't noticed anything, maybe I haven't observed it as mainly use my Bluetooth headphones.
Is it on Bluetooth output? Or UBC C to jack? Or the phones direct speaker?
please explain. what exactly do i connect to reproduce the issue ?
just stereo speakers or a headphone will do ?
wireless ? or
directly type C or i need a type C to audio jack adapter ?
or a type c to usb adapter ?
I think it stands for the internal speakers. On EMUI they were playing together in stereo, on aosp roms only the bottom speaker plays while listening to the music or playing a movie.
kessaras said:
please explain. what exactly do i connect to reproduce the issue ?
just stereo speakers or a headphone will do ?
wireless ? or
directly type C or i need a type C to audio jack adapter ?
or a type c to usb adapter ?
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Headphones for me are fine.
Bluetooth is fine.
It's just the normal stereo speakers on the phone.
Only one works..
djlukas1983 said:
I think it stands for the internal speakers. On EMUI they were playing together in stereo, on aosp roms only the bottom speaker plays while listening to the music or playing a movie.
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Correct
dladz said:
Headphones for me are fine.
Bluetooth is fine.
It's just the normal stereo speakers on the phone.
Only one works..
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Ok . I think you don't understand.
Audio takes routes.
From kernel to Hal to framework to app to user it goes through many many routes.
I need the whole route.
Can you be specific clear or not ?
I can't just buy any available combination in the market and test them all, I don't have the money for that or the time.
So.
You connect with type C ?
Type C to jack ?
Type C to usb ?
Then you connect what ?
Just speakers ?
Audio jack to two speakers ?
Type C to speakers ?
Do the speakers have an amplifier , so you connect from :
jack to amplifier and then the amplifier to speakers ?
Type C to amplifier and then speakers ?
Help me understand the whole route or debug it yourself.
There are more than 50 audio routes.
Be specific clear !!!
this phone have two speakers, one at the bottom, one at the top...
if you listen to anything, only the bottom one works, not the top one...
speakers, headset and whatever, connected via bluetooth or usb, works just fine
it's just the speakers on the phone
don't know how to be more clear, apologies
kessaras said:
Ok . I think you don't understand.
Audio takes routes.
From kernel to Hal to framework to app to user it goes through many many routes.
I need the whole route.
Can you be specific clear or not ?
I can't just buy any available combination in the market and test them all, I don't have the money for that or the time.
So.
You connect with type C ?
Type C to jack ?
Type C to usb ?
Then you connect what ?
Just speakers ?
Audio jack to two speakers ?
Type C to speakers ?
Do the speakers have an amplifier , so you connect from :
jack to amplifier and then the amplifier to speakers ?
Type C to amplifier and then speakers ?
Help me understand the whole route or debug it yourself.
There are more than 50 audio routes.
Be specific clear !!!
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I have no idea what you're asking dude..
In fact I have already been as clear I can be.
To reiterate..
With the p20 pro with pie installed..
If you play music with just the phone! As I said just the stereo speakers that are built in..
You will have audio coming out of the earpiece and the speaker at the bottom, the bottom being right and the top being left..
There are no usb C or otherwise connected, as I said headphones, usb, Bluetooth all work fine, in which case anything else you connect would also work fine..
This is solely for the phones actual output, not sure where the confusion is mate??
Do you have the pro? If you have it and have your ROM or any other non emui ROM installed you'd know exactly what I'm saying.
Hasn't anyone mentioned this in your ROMs thread??
Any audio from the device usually (with emui) comes from both speakers, top and bottom (on the phone, nothing external)
With non emui ROMs this does not happen.
I've no idea how to debug where the break down is.. specifically within the devices software... which is why I'm asking for help.
kaiowas82 said:
this phone have two speakers, one at the bottom, one at the top...
if you listen to anything, only the bottom one works, not the top one...
speakers, headset and whatever, connected via bluetooth or usb, works just fine
it's just the speakers on the phone
don't know how to be more clear, apologies
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There is no way to be more clear, it's blatantly obvious what the problem is mate.
As in the internal speakers, not some external, amplified or otherwise externally connected speakers.
dladz said:
There is no way to be more clear, it's blatantly obvious what the problem is mate.
As in the internal speakers, not some external, amplified or otherwise externally connected speakers.
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Ok now I finally understand. I never noticed anything like that because when I disassembled two p20 pro to change lcd (at work, because I'm a mechanic normally) I never saw a speaker up there. We only have one below.
In some reviews I read that p20 pro can create a Dolby surround effect.
Maybe the Dolby effect confused you ?
And no actually nobody else ever said anything. It's just you since I did my first build until now ?
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To add more,
If Huawei in closed source audio Hal has some way to create a Dolby surround effect , then that's something we can't do unless Huawei shared the Hal.
Absolutely no idea about Dolby.
Doesn't confuse me at all, just the left (earpiece speaker) doesn't work..
I think Luk got it to work. Could be wrong.
dladz said:
Absolutely no idea about Dolby.
Doesn't confuse me at all, just the left (earpiece speaker) doesn't work..
I think Luk got it to work. Could be wrong.
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That's true! On Emui the left sound is coming from the earpiece speaker and the right sound is coming from the bottom speaker. The option is called Stereo +
When the phone is on landscape orientation the audio is switching from mono to stereo
dladz said:
Absolutely no idea about Dolby.
Doesn't confuse me at all, just the left (earpiece speaker) doesn't work..
I think Luk got it to work. Could be wrong.
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nikifeto said:
That's true! On Emui the left sound is coming from the earpiece speaker and the right sound is coming from the bottom speaker. The option is called Stereo +
When the phone is on landscape orientation the audio is switching from mono to stereo
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i see. no i can not do that. i can not create a stereo + effect by routing the left sound to earpiece and right sound from speaker.
what i can do is make the earpiece play sound too just like the speaker , but i don't know how bad the quality will be because the earpiece is not strong like the speaker.
I will keep that in mind , when i have time i will change the routing and test it at mine.
kessaras said:
i see. no i can not do that. i can not create a stereo + effect by routing the left sound to earpiece and right sound from speaker.
what i can do is make the earpiece play sound too just like the speaker , but i don't know how bad the quality will be because the earpiece is not strong like the speaker.
I will keep that in mind , when i have time i will change the routing and test it at mine.
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One good thing we know is, is that the earpiece is capable of being used as a speaker.
A lot of devices with only one speaker have had mods in the past which have enabled the earpiece as a second speaker but some have caused damage over time, this shouldn't be the case for us.
Nice one. I think the quality will be great.
If we can match up the Vol level and emulate the output specifically Vs the emui one then we'll be sorted.
@kessaras whatever you can do would be amazing mate
kessaras said:
Ok . I think you don't understand.
Audio takes routes.
From kernel to Hal to framework to app to user it goes through many many routes.
I need the whole route.
Can you be specific clear or not ?
I can't just buy any available combination in the market and test them all, I don't have the money for that or the time.
So.
You connect with type C ?
Type C to jack ?
Type C to usb ?
Then you connect what ?
Just speakers ?
Audio jack to two speakers ?
Type C to speakers ?
Do the speakers have an amplifier , so you connect from :
jack to amplifier and then the amplifier to speakers ?
Type C to amplifier and then speakers ?
Help me understand the whole route or debug it yourself.
There are more than 50 audio routes.
Be specific clear !!!
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P20 Pro have stereo internal speaker... see picture
he only works one out of 2 on non-emui system
i using factory emui system, it works for me in stereo channel
spityu85hun said:
P20 Pro have stereo internal speaker... see picture
he only works one out of 2 on non-emui system
i using factory emui system, it works for me in stereo channel
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Please...... -_-
in your picture i see the earpiece, not the speaker.
If it was a speaker then how do you hear the opposite side when you make a phone call ?
"Earpiece" it's called, not speaker.
In EMUI they create a stereo effect by using the earpiece to play music.
If you so much want this , then ask Huawei to send me link to their sources, hals and framework, end of story.
Me i said already , the only thing i can (Maybe i can) , is to add a route for the earpiece to also play music just like the speaker. I can not produce the stereo effect of EMUI.
I do not have the code for that and i don't know how to write the code for that.
spityu85hun said:
P20 Pro have stereo internal speaker... see picture
he only works one out of 2 on non-emui system
i using factory emui system, it works for me in stereo channel
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Can't do exactly that without files from Huawei mate, which they won't release.
But he can maybe do it another way.. The result will probably be the same so let's just see what can be done..
kessaras said:
Please...... -_-
in your picture i see the earpiece, not the speaker.
If it was a speaker then how do you hear the opposite side when you make a phone call ?
"Earpiece" it's called, not speaker.
In EMUI they create a stereo effect by using the earpiece to play music.
If you so much want this , then ask Huawei to send me link to their sources, hals and framework, end of story.
Me i said already , the only thing i can (Maybe i can) , is to add a route for the earpiece to also play music just like the speaker. I can not produce the stereo effect of EMUI.
I do not have the code for that and i don't know how to write the code for that.
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you are wrong...
p20 pro have 2 speaker's
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/speakers-t3800876