S5 Mini: "Android System" consumes more battery than "Screen"? - Galaxy S5 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello folks,
I have an S5 Mini here and, during the first 2 days of use, I've noticed that the battery drains faster than on my previous Galaxy S3 Neo, which has the same hardware specs, but with larger screen.
After the secong charge, I entered the [Settings > Battery] menu and noticed that the item "Android System", so far, has consumed 44% of the battery, while the screen has consumed only 28%. Normally the screen is responsible for the most part, right?
That's why I ask: which new default feature of this 4.4.2 Android on S5 Mini drains so much battery? Any idea?

@RssV,
Inside of the Battery menu, when you tab on the Android system you will get detailed information about the energy consumption there you can see wich app or package is consuming your Battery.
If your device isnt't rooted you can freeze some apps with the app "app freezer"
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Tenos

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tenos said:
@RssV,
Inside of the Battery menu, when you tab on the Android system you will get detailed information about the energy consumption there you can see wich app or package is consuming your Battery.
CU
Tenos
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Yes, I have checked this menu, but... It wasn't very helpful. Didn't point me to one specific app, but to lots of system functions...
It's charging right now, but here's the screen:
imgur.com/WOHR5Ad

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I got a problem: my battery is draining REALLY fast, like 20% every 2 hours.
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I've tried rebooting, but this keeps happening...
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What kind of option am I looking for?
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[Q] Background Apps and Battery Drain

Hi,
I have noticed on my SGS that there are always 10-12 background apps that are running... Although I have Advanced Task Killer installed... And also there is significant drain in the battery as well... I loose 3-4% in one hour (when the phone is idle)...
Is this normal ?
Is there any way to avoid the background apps to start automatically? Does these apps drain the battery?
Also, I am using Launcher Pro... Whether it can be the reason for the drain in the battery?
Is there anyway to reduce the battery drain?
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Android 2.2
BaseBand: I9000DDJP2
Build: Froyo.DDJP6
stop using task killers.
3-4% isn't unusual, but task killers will make it worse.
Hmm... I have the same problem with Doc's Rom XWJS3+speedmod kernel.
Somethimes I get 2%/hour battery drain (which is normal for me) and other times I get mad 5%/hour battery drains.
When I got the 5%/h battery drain I checked Spare Parts, but it didn't show nothing unusual.
And I know Spare Parts and the usual suspects: Gallery 3D, Dialer, Fruit Ninja,...
Thx god phone reboot fixes the mad battery drain.
Too bad this isn't fixable because no app shows high battery usage in Spare Parts.
EDIT: I do not use Task Killers and yes I would also not recommend using them.
Thanks guys for the replies... I have disabled Advanced Task killer and now monitoring the battery drain...
Also, any idea if Launcher Pro consumes battery as well? Since I have kept it as my default launcher...
Thanks,
Guru
Yes I guess we are all in the same boat.
When I clear level 1 and 2 memory in the task manager, I get a note that 10+ apps have been stopped but I believe this is not the right thing to do.
Android OS seem to work this way.
I need to do some reading about it.
Can someone explain what are the disadvantages of using advanced task managers?
the stock task manager is fine.. its the other ones from the market that contribute to battery drain,, even tho they are made to decrease battery drain.... weird i know...
they are permanently checking the OS for running apps, and certain options like 'show notification message' or 'auto kill at screen off' means the app is running permanently.... even when you kill it. it just starts back up in a blink of an eye...
stick to the stock task killer as its no better / worse than the rest......

[Q] Battery drain issue

I know there have been a lot of discussions about this but did anyone ever get to the bottom of the battery drain issue on the S3?
When I first got my S3 the battery life was great - would easily last over 12 hours. Now rarely gets me through a working day.
Here's what I have tried (none of these worked)
1. Replacing the battery
2. Replacing the handset completely
3. Replacing the SD card
4. Removing the SD card
5. Using a different SIM
6. Keeping the phone in flight mode when not using it
7. Turning off all automatic updates
8. Keeping screen brightness turned down low
9. Uninstalling all my apps
10. Factory resest (many times)
11. Downgrading back to Android 4.1.2 using these instructions - "Google: How to downgrade Galaxy S3 back to Android 4.1.2: tutorial" (I could not do this I just kept getting error messages)
12. Speaking to EE technical help (totally useless)
13. Speaking to Samsung help (completely clueless)
14. All the other tips on the Samsung website - Google "Cell Phones: How do I sustain my Android battery life?"
15. Turning off "Keep WiFi on during sleep"
Not sure what's left. Any ideas? Here's what I have;
Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (I9305)
Android version 4.3
Baseband version I9305XXUEMK1
Kernel Version 3.0.31-2051278
Build Number JSS15J.19305XXUEML5
SELinux Status Enforcing SEPF_GT-I9305_4.3_0021
My partner has a HTC One which has a great battery life. Don't think I'd buy another Samsung phone after this. Just wiating till my contract ends so I can switch to an HTC.
Are u on stock or custom rom?
portmoon said:
I know there have been a lot of discussions about this but did anyone ever get to the bottom of the battery drain issue on the S3?
When I first got my S3 the battery life was great - would easily last over 12 hours. Now rarely gets me through a working day.
Here's what I have tried (none of these worked)
1. Replacing the battery
2. Replacing the handset completely
3. Replacing the SD card
4. Removing the SD card
5. Using a different SIM
6. Keeping the phone in flight mode when not using it
7. Turning off all automatic updates
8. Keeping screen brightness turned down low
9. Uninstalling all my apps
10. Factory resest (many times)
11. Downgrading back to Android 4.1.2 using these instructions - "Google: How to downgrade Galaxy S3 back to Android 4.1.2: tutorial" (I could not do this I just kept getting error messages)
12. Speaking to EE technical help (totally useless)
13. Speaking to Samsung help (completely clueless)
14. All the other tips on the Samsung website - Google "Cell Phones: How do I sustain my Android battery life?"
15. Turning off "Keep WiFi on during sleep"
Not sure what's left. Any ideas? Here's what I have;
Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (I9305)
Android version 4.3
Baseband version I9305XXUEMK1
Kernel Version 3.0.31-2051278
Build Number JSS15J.19305XXUEML5
SELinux Status Enforcing SEPF_GT-I9305_4.3_0021
My partner has a HTC One which has a great battery life. Don't think I'd buy another Samsung phone after this. Just wiating till my contract ends so I can switch to an HTC.
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You can't downgrade directly, namely, you can't flash the old bootloader. Try to flash a stable rom, set up your google account, install little or no apps. Give it 48h to settle.
Oh! BTW, format both SDcard and internal storage. And install Better Battery Stats to find the wakelock. And give us a screenshot of your mediocre battery stats, and the screen on time.
portmoon said:
I know there have been a lot of discussions about this but did anyone ever get to the bottom of the battery drain issue on the S3?
When I first got my S3 the battery life was great - would easily last over 12 hours. Now rarely gets me through a working day.
Here's what I have tried (none of these worked)
1. Replacing the battery
2. Replacing the handset completely
3. Replacing the SD card
4. Removing the SD card
5. Using a different SIM
6. Keeping the phone in flight mode when not using it
7. Turning off all automatic updates
8. Keeping screen brightness turned down low
9. Uninstalling all my apps
10. Factory resest (many times)
11. Downgrading back to Android 4.1.2 using these instructions - "Google: How to downgrade Galaxy S3 back to Android 4.1.2: tutorial" (I could not do this I just kept getting error messages)
12. Speaking to EE technical help (totally useless)
13. Speaking to Samsung help (completely clueless)
14. All the other tips on the Samsung website - Google "Cell Phones: How do I sustain my Android battery life?"
15. Turning off "Keep WiFi on during sleep"
Not sure what's left. Any ideas? Here's what I have;
Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (I9305)
Android version 4.3
Baseband version I9305XXUEMK1
Kernel Version 3.0.31-2051278
Build Number JSS15J.19305XXUEML5
SELinux Status Enforcing SEPF_GT-I9305_4.3_0021
My partner has a HTC One which has a great battery life. Don't think I'd buy another Samsung phone after this. Just wiating till my contract ends so I can switch to an HTC.
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I think this problem started for my cell phone after flashing android 4.3.. But I now using custom rom based on cm 11 but battery keeps draining... I get this wake lock msic_pm0_d or something like that...
Use smart radio function in xposed module -gravity box. Then install greenify, greenify all apps.
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i had the same problem for a while, the thing i did was buy a new monster micro-usb cable (i think it was this one: http://www.monsterproducts.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=6922&id=10816) and then i let my battery drain to 0% then let the battery battery fully charge to 100%, calibrate the battery (look in play store for: battery calibrate) and then let it drain to 0% again, after that my problem was gone and with the monster cable my phone is fully charged in 1,5 hour, and it lasts a day with heavy use.
Gentlemen, screenshot of battery history and BBS wakelocks please.
No, not greenify.
No, not Wakelock detector.
BBS, with root, as a system app. It's free for your forum users, start using it!
daedric said:
Gentlemen, screenshot of battery history and BBS wakelocks please.
No, not greenify.
No, not Wakelock detector.
BBS, with root, as a system app. It's free for your forum users, start using it!
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It is funny, BBS is total different app with greenify, why you ask people not to use greenify? BBS has different usage from greenify.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
anguslaw said:
It is funny, BBS is total different app with greenify, why you ask people not to use greenify? BBS has different usage from greenify.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Because anguslaw first you have to know the disease, then choose the form of treatment.
Battery drain solved
Thanks for all the helpful tips. I tried quite a lot of different things.
The thing that ha worked for me to instantly improve my battery life - I'm getting over two days out of it now has been installing "DS Battery Saver".
When I'm not using the phone, the battery life remains pretty much static.
I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a quick fix for rubbish battery life.

Poor Battery Life - HELP!

So, over the last week, I have noticed such poor battery life. My battery is not performing as it once did.
I recently downloaded Power Shade, so I decided to disable it (not uninstall it). It's not listed in the Play Store at this time.
I have noticed that Android System uses a lot of my battery, while my battery life drops like a rock while I have my screen on. I never have my screen brightness passed 25% (and it is usually less).
Please take a look at these screenshots. What is going wrong?
Dankees said:
So, over the last week, I have noticed such poor battery life. My battery is not performing as it once did.
I recently downloaded Power Shade, so I decided to disable it (not uninstall it). It's not listed in the Play Store at this time.
I have noticed that Android System uses a lot of my battery, while my battery life drops like a rock while I have my screen on. I never have my screen brightness passed 25% (and it is usually less).
Please take a look at these screenshots. What is going wrong?
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It says your phone has been on the battery for over 15 hours.. I don't see how that's considered bad? That's pretty much what I get.
Install BBS, grant permissions and check what is messing your battery. That is awful SOT
vojopd said:
Install BBS, grant permissions and check what is messing your battery. That is awful SOT
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Would AccuBattery tell me?
Dankees said:
Would AccuBattery tell me?
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Run it and find out
sefrcoko said:
Run it and find out
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How are the two apps different?
sefrcoko said:
Run it and find out
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Well, I turned on Power Shade and left my phone untouched for one hour. My battery dropped 5%.
Then, I turned it off and left my phone alone for another hour and it went down only 2%.
So, that's the culprit?
I'm not sure if your battery drain is regarding normal usage or standby time.
If it's a standby drain, I would suggest installing Naptime app from the playstore. Grant the permissions via ADB, your standby battery life would be great.
I've experienced a really good battery mileage after installing the app.
Make sure you enable to aggressive doze option and keep the app out of power save or the sleeping apps option.
Also, try turning off Location and see if Android System percentage goes down.
Unix_Dominator said:
I'm not sure if your battery drain is regarding normal usage or standby time.
If it's a standby drain, I would suggest installing Naptime app from the playstore. Grant the permissions via ADB, your standby battery life would be great.
I've experienced a really good battery mileage after installing the app.
Make sure you enable to aggressive doze option and keep the app out of power save or the sleeping apps option.
Also, try turning off Location and see if Android System percentage goes down.
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Is this tough to do?
I had Location set to "High Accuracy" - I have now changed that to "Battery Saving."
Better?
Dankees said:
Is this tough to do?
I had Location set to "High Accuracy" - I have now changed that to "Battery Saving."
Better?
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The naptime app is a piece of cake if you have root access, if your phone is not rooted, the app will suggest some steps you can follow to allow it function properly. For the non-root method, you will require a computer and ADB (Android Debug Bridge) to be installed in the computer.
If you kept location service to battery saving then maybe it might help save battery juice.
Unix_Dominator said:
The naptime app is a piece of cake if you have root access, if your phone is not rooted, the app will suggest some steps you can follow to allow it function properly. For the non-root method, you will require a computer and ADB (Android Debug Bridge) to be installed in the computer.
If you kept location service to battery saving then maybe it might help save battery juice.
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I think I will stick with the Location setting change.
I'm also finding TuneUp Master Pro to be helping.
What do you think of BetterBatteryStats?
Later today, I can post screenshots.
Right now, I am at 63% battery left with 2 hours of screen time. (Note, much of this has been with super low battery brightness.)
Unix_Dominator said:
The naptime app is a piece of cake if you have root access, if your phone is not rooted, the app will suggest some steps you can follow to allow it function properly. For the non-root method, you will require a computer and ADB (Android Debug Bridge) to be installed in the computer.
If you kept location service to battery saving then maybe it might help save battery juice.
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Do you have certain settings that you think I should really have (without any repercussions) that you could screenshot me?
What do you think of these settings?
About 7 hours were not on Wi-Fi...
Dankees said:
I think I will stick with the Location setting change.
I'm also finding TuneUp Master Pro to be helping.
What do you think of BetterBatteryStats?
Later today, I can post screenshots.
Right now, I am at 63% battery left with 2 hours of screen time. (Note, much of this has been with super low battery brightness.)
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Hey,
I think TuneUp Master Pro might help you, I haven't actually used BetterBatteryStats.
But I saw your screenshot, one thing I noticed is that you keep bluetooth switched on (Android Wear)?, If so then I think maybe that is your issue (I'm saying this cause I have a Gear 2 connected to my Note8, when the device is connected it takes some amount of battery). Try to use your device without bluetooth for maybe 1 day and see if there is any improvement in Battery Life and Screen On Time.
I would suggest other basic options like:
1. Turning off Location when you don't need it
2. Turning off Bluetooth
3. Turning off Mobile Data (or keeping the network mode to 3G/2G)
4. Delete useless apps, if you have apps like BetterBatterStats, I think they can monitor app data and battery usage.
5. Goto Settings>Device Maintenance>Battery, scroll down till the end and select "always sleeping apps", select apps that you want only to wake up when you open the apps. Go back and remove useless or unwanted apps under the unmonitored apps section (This option is right before the always sleeping apps one).
Also try doing a cache clear from Android Recovery (Be Careful when selecting the options):
1. Turn off your phone
2. Hold the Volume Up, Bixby and Power Button simultaneously until you see the boot screen, as soon as you see that screen release your fingers from the buttons
3. Once the recovery options come, use your volume buttons to move up and down, and the power button to select an option.
4. press volume down and select the clear cache option, press the power button, use the volume down button again to select "Yes" and press the power button.
5. It will clear Cache
6. Restart your, its the first option in the menu.
This might helps the phone clear cache files and maybe fix your battery issue.
It would also be good if you install this app, after installing goto the "Personal" tab and check if your battery health is good, mine is 91%. You should also be in that range or maybe 80%. If the percentage is bad then maybe I think you would require a battery replacement. Correct me if I am wrong guys, but just a suggestion.
One more thing, is your phone rooted or having a custom rom?, if yes I suggest to try Naptime and other rooted battery saving apps like Greenify.
If not then I think you and me will have to hope that Android 9.0 Pie would have some improvement, sadly I have been a Samsung user for 4 to 5 years, this isn't usually the case with Samsung OS updates .
Based on this, I don't think I have anything rogue going on, do you?
(Notice that I didn't use my phone at all during this time, nor did I leave home.)
OK, I have attached stats for my phone from today.
Please take a look.
When not using my phone, my battery only dropped about 2% per hour, which is great. But when my screen was on, I seemed to have lost a lot of power. I can't even get 4 hours of screen on time.
What would cause tis to happen? I barely have my screen brightness at 20%.
Does this tell you more? It shows battery usage with cell phone signal.
(I was off Wi-Fi for about the last 6 hours of the day.)
Does this show a slower battery drop with a better signal?
Dankees said:
OK, I have attached stats for my phone from today.
Please take a look.
When not using my phone, my battery only dropped about 2% per hour, which is great. But when my screen was on, I seemed to have lost a lot of power. I can't even get 4 hours of screen on time.
What would cause tis to happen? I barely have my screen brightness at 20%.
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Chrome and facebook drain lot compared to others. Are you putting them (and others) to sleep using device management? Also, 2.7% drain per hour isn't fantastic. You can drop that to approx 1% if you tame enough things on your phone.
Dankees said:
OK, I have attached stats for my phone from today.
Please take a look.
When not using my phone, my battery only dropped about 2% per hour, which is great. But when my screen was on, I seemed to have lost a lot of power. I can't even get 4 hours of screen on time.
What would cause tis to happen? I barely have my screen brightness at 20%.
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2% per hour for rooted phone is very bad. In 10 hours you loose 20% battery, looks very bad too. If you open the 4g you loose 40%. I loose 2% every 10 hours and i have 95% kernel deep sleep. Your System have big drain in first picture. Debloat your rom and fix your bad wakelocks with amplify and with appops. Possible change your rom and your kernel if you are not rooted. If you are not rooted god bless you, or read the xda threads to learnd about the phones. All your apps have very bad wakeup issues. This apps run all the time and dont leave the phone to sleep. You use malware bytes into android.... the linux is not windows 10. You dont need this crap apps.
sefrcoko said:
Chrome and facebook drain lot compared to others. Are you putting them (and others) to sleep using device management? Also, 2.7% drain per hour isn't fantastic. You can drop that to approx 1% if you take enough things on your phone.
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Should they always be sleeping?

Question How come a service doesn't exist but still consumes battery ?!

The galaxy tab s8 doesn't have always on display, and yet it consumes battery by preventing my tab s8 ultra sm-x900 from intering deep sleep while it's not in use
I can't get anything about it by tapping, it's just there doin it's harmful effect
Install gsam battery monitor and enable grand permission according to the instructions in the application. Then wait a few hours and analyze the graphs and detailed battery consumption data by apk and services.
ze7zez said:
Install gsam battery monitor and enable grand permission according to the instructions in the application. Then wait a few hours and analyze the graphs and detailed battery consumption data by apk and services.
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You mean it could be something else but in the name of AOD ? This is the second time to happen , happened a few days previously at the same condition ( while the tab was left )

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