Display tint and auto-brightness problem? - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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Hello.
Just received brand new Moto G 2014 5" version and comparing the screen colors to Moto G 2013 4,5" version, makes me quite depressing. I noticed, that 2014 model screen is noticeable darker and yellow compared the 2013 model screen, which is bright and blue, I just can't believe that 294 (2014) vs 326 (2013) ppi pixel density is so visible?
My first opinion was, that screen is definitely faulty, as I also noticed such difference once before, when my 2013 model was replaced - screen of the new one was much more brighter.
However, if all 2014 version screens are so dark, then we need a fix ASAP, as right now display brightness in auto mode is too low , it's difficult to use the phone in normal daylight, only manual brightness editing helps, but this is workaround which uses more battery.
I did sent same description also to Motorola forum, hoping that Motorola engineers puttting Moto G 2013 and Moto G 2014 model side by side, compare screens brightness in auto mode, and edit the firmware and publish it.
Right now I ordered a replacement as I just can't believe what I saw.
How is YourMoto G 2014 screen?

ksuuk said:
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Hello.
Just received brand new Moto G 2014 5" version and comparing the screen colors to Moto G 2013 4,5" version, makes me quite depressing. I noticed, that 2014 model screen is noticeable darker and yellow compared the 2013 model screen, which is bright and blue, I just can't believe that 294 (2014) vs 326 (2013) ppi pixel density is so visible?
My first opinion was, that screen is definitely faulty, as I also noticed such difference once before, when my 2013 model was replaced - screen of the new one was much more brighter.
However, if all 2014 version screens are so dark, then we need a fix ASAP, as right now display brightness in auto mode is too low , it's difficult to use the phone in normal daylight, only manual brightness editing helps, but this is workaround which uses more battery.
I did sent same description also to Motorola forum, hoping that Motorola engineers puttting Moto G 2013 and Moto G 2014 model side by side, compare screens brightness in auto mode, and edit the firmware and publish it.
Right now I ordered a replacement as I just can't believe what I saw.
How is YourMoto G 2014 screen?
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Update your device to latest Build version KXB21.85.23 size is around 120 MB
1. Touch issues solved
2. Auto-brightness issues solved.
3. Added Google Now Launcher​
The color temperature on 2014 model is warmer (shifted towards < 6500K) as compared to 2013 model (shifted towards >7500K). Its perfectly okay. And regarding display pixel density its quite obvious that the clarity is not that great as compared to 2013 model.

sharkymyn said:
Update your device to latest Build version KXB21.85.23 size is around 120 MB
1. Touch issues solved
2. Auto-brightness issues solved.
3. Added Google Now Launcher​
The color temperature on 2014 model is warmer (shifted towards < 6500K) as compared to 2013 model (shifted towards >7500K). Its perfectly okay. And regarding display pixel density its quite obvious that the clarity is not that great as compared to 2013 model.
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The update is already installed, but I don't see improvement. I can live with less colorful screen, but I can't live with much darker screen - http://www.upload.ee/image/4293011/DSC_0760-1.jpg
I think Motorola should adjust 2014 model screen brightness to same level as 2013 have. Or add option to adjust screen color ourselves, like some Xperia models have.

I never use auto brightness so I don't know about that, but my screen isn't dark at all

White balance is better with new moto g. I use both and with original moto g the white ballance is way to blue. I also have some backlight bleeding issues with original one. Autobrightness is set too low on the new moto g 2nd, especially in low light environments, but if you manually boost brightness, it is bright as hell.

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Amoled screen similar in generation to the X?

Is there any evidence that the screen on the N6 will be any different from the generation shipped with the X? All indications point to the Moto using a previous generation Samsung display. I can't help but think that the N6 may have been able to score the latest generation due solely to its size?
floepie said:
Is there any evidence that the screen on the N6 will be any different from the generation shipped with the X? All indications point to the Moto using a previous generation Samsung display. I can't help but think that the N6 may have been able to score the latest generation due solely to its size?
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Can you link these "all indications"? All I've seen is a bunch of speculation regarding this, coming from those who are detracting from the N6 because they can't afford it, or think it's too big.
Sent from my Nexus 10
floepie said:
Is there any evidence that the screen on the N6 will be any different from the generation shipped with the X? All indications point to the Moto using a previous generation Samsung display. I can't help but think that the N6 may have been able to score the latest generation due solely to its size?
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If anything, I think they will be new panels because the panels that are needed by the Nexus 6 was not needed in previous phones until now (5.9" and rez).
What "previous generation" 6-inch QHD display?
jt3 said:
What "previous generation" 6-inch QHD display?
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Yup exactly what I was thinking too.
jt3 said:
What "previous generation" 6-inch QHD display?
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Well they can use previous generation AMOLED displays. I don't think resolution and size have an effect on the generation of AMOLED. For example, the Galaxy Alpha uses Samsung's latest AMOLED technology even though it has a 4.7 inch 720p display.
I am hoping we get a brighter and a longer lasting display. Burn-in is such a real issue, as is the fact that LCD displays are usually brighter.
I dont get this supposed burn in issue....i have had every galaxy phone with absolutly no issues with the screen. I have had my note 3 for a year now and again the screen is just as beautiful as day one. Sure if you put some abstract image on full brightness on screen for 6 months straight you might get a issue...but in actual real world usage...no such thing
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I dont get this supposed burn in issue....i have had every galaxy phone with absolutly no issues with the screen. I have had my note 3 for a year now and again the screen is just as beautiful as day one. Sure if you put some abstract image on full brightness on screen for 6 months straight you might get a issue...but in actual real world usage...no such thing
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The amoled burn in issue is still alive on the GS4 we had 3 and all have had it to differing degrees. I have no idea about the gs5 or note4 generation panels. I'd wager they would have at the least some kind of image retention though. Just a educated guess. The latest LG oled TV panels have image retention issues (glance at avs forums). Image retention, which looks like like burn in, but it can be rectified (like with plasma TVs). Burn is permanent so maybe this is a case of semantics. Think status bar battery icon. It is there 24/7. Maybe you just don't notice it or panel to panel discrepancies show more or less issues.
Having said all that you have to really look for it on our GS4's and its certainly NOT a deal breaker imo

Install 1080p screen from Moto X 2014?

Since the biggest battery drain seems to be the QHD screen, I've been wondering if I can buy a 1080P and swap it in.
The most likely donor would be a Moto X 2014, since they use the same AMOLED 5.2" display.
Potential issues:
-video connector: I have not seen teardown videos. Can anyone help me determine if the display ribbon cables/pinouts are the same?
-display/housing: Moto LCDs are tough to separate from digitizers... This may require a new Droid Turbo housing/digitizer, plus a new Moto X 2014 LCD screen)
-android resolution: Does Android auto detect resolution? If not, we might need an unlocked/rooted device to change this in Android.
-capacitive buttons: I think this is built into the software on the Droid Turbo, so they should continue to work without duplicate (onscreen) controls
Cost: could be minimal by reselling my mint condition QHD LCD/digitizer/front housing.
traccdma said:
Since the biggest battery drain seems to be the QHD screen, I've been wondering if I can buy a 1080P and swap it in.
The most likely donor would be a Moto X 2014, since they use the same AMOLED 5.2" display.
Potential issues:
-video connector: I have not seen teardown videos. Can anyone help me determine if the display ribbon cables/pinouts are the same?
-display/housing: Moto LCDs are tough to separate from digitizers... This may require a new Droid Turbo housing/digitizer, plus a new Moto X 2014 LCD screen)
-android resolution: Does Android auto detect resolution? If not, we might need an unlocked/rooted device to change this in Android.
-capacitive buttons: I think this is built into the software on the Droid Turbo, so they should continue to work without duplicate (onscreen) controls
Cost: could be minimal by reselling my mint condition QHD LCD/digitizer/front housing.
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I think would be easier to look for an app or a way to change the screen resolution instead of changing the whole screen. Many users use the LG G3 with 1080p and get good results with battery (not big increase). One backdraw is that it maybe requiere root, that is currently unavailable as far as I know.
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If your at least curious here is a droid turbo teardown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_AOQ6U2Zb0

Grainy screen?

I received my Moto X about 3 weeks ago, but noticed on white/light backgrounds, the screen appeared grainy. So last week I called Motorola to ask for an exchange, which they did. I received the new Moto X today, but it's suffering from the same grainy screen as my other one. Does anyone else have this issue with their X? My old Note 2 did not suffer from this, and they are both AMOLED screens.
Also interesting to note, the first Moto X was assembled in the US and the second one in China, so I assume the screens came from two different batches.
xabba2k said:
I received my Moto X about 3 weeks ago, but noticed on white/light backgrounds, the screen appeared grainy. So last week I called Motorola to ask for an exchange, which they did. I received the new Moto X today, but it's suffering from the same grainy screen as my other one. Does anyone else have this issue with their X? My old Note 2 did not suffer from this, and they are both AMOLED screens.
Also interesting to note, the first Moto X was assembled in the US and the second one in China, so I assume the screens came from two different batches.
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Yes, even I had this issue but after comparing with others I realised it's normal. They grainy are only visible if you really pay attention and scroll slowly. Eg. Gmail app.
I've learn to live it though.
Moto X 2014
I never thought to explain it as "grainy", but yes, I have it too. I almost RMAed it for that as it sometimes looked like lines going across the screen when scrolling. Actually, I did RMA it, but moto couldn't find it in there system for a week. I finally got the email, but haven't called them back yet.
same here... its more like texture, and you do see the lines when scrolling.
Is it worth trying to RMA it again until I get one with a good screen? I would certainly consider this a flaw, especially when spending $500 on a phone. I truly do enjoy the phone otherwise.
xabba2k said:
Is it worth trying to RMA it again until I get one with a good screen? I would certainly consider this a flaw, especially when spending $500 on a phone. I truly do enjoy the phone otherwise.
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It's the pentile screen nothing wrong with it. I have the grainy screen too.
Grainy is normal. Horizontal or vertical lines are not - also tint issues are not normal. My screen is 50-60% yellow tinted and the remainder white, not normal - rma'ed it and awaiting my replacement.
Thanks for the help everyone. I am also noticing faint horizontal lines on both Moto X's on white/light backgrounds, but the replacement from China seems to have more than the original, and has a red tint to it. I'll be calling Motorola in the morning.
xabba2k said:
Thanks for the help everyone. I am also noticing faint horizontal lines on both Moto X's on white/light backgrounds, but the replacement from China seems to have more than the original, and has a red tint to it. I'll be calling Motorola in the morning.
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Bad qc on amoled. It's a gamble...
Yes. You can another thread that I created: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/static-lines-bands-screen-yes-please-t2935981
Currently I am just using the device since there's absolutely no guarantee the next one would be any better given that these issue are common. The QC is really bad.

[Q] Display Brightness Boost Mode

Hello all,
I recently return my Nexus 6 because the max brightness paled in comparison to my LG G2 and the phone was just unwieldy. I thought I'd give the Moto X (2014) a shot because it's the perfect size for me. I decided to go to the AT&T store yesterday and see it in person. It's beautiful but I was, again, let down by the max brightness. It doesn't compare to the G2 in that front. However, I read on AnandTech that the Moto X has a display boost mode that brings the brightness up to 390 nits. Compare to the 242 nits it normally pushes, that's awesome!
"What's interesting to note is that the brightness is similar to that of the 2014 Moto X, another recently released Motorola device that sports an AMOLED panel. However, even Moto X has an auto boost mode which pushes it up to 390nit"
Does anyone know how to enable this? I spent an hour at AT&T trying to figure out enable this boost mode and increase the brightness. I couldn't find it anywhere. Is Anandtech wrong? Is the brightness simply subpar on the Moto X?
markospena said:
Hello all,
I recently return my Nexus 6 because the max brightness paled in comparison to my LG G2 and the phone was just unwieldy. I thought I'd give the Moto X (2014) a shot because it's the perfect size for me. I decided to go to the AT&T store yesterday and see it in person. It's beautiful but I was, again, let down by the max brightness. It doesn't compare to the G2 in that front. However, I read on AnandTech that the Moto X has a display boost mode that brings the brightness up to 390 nits. Compare to the 242 nits it normally pushes, that's awesome!
"What's interesting to note is that the brightness is similar to that of the 2014 Moto X, another recently released Motorola device that sports an AMOLED panel. However, even Moto X has an auto boost mode which pushes it up to 390nit"
Does anyone know how to enable this? I spent an hour at AT&T trying to figure out enable this boost mode and increase the brightness. I couldn't find it anywhere. Is Anandtech wrong? Is the brightness simply subpar on the Moto X?
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I read it as a sort of critique in that "even the original Moto X has an auto boost mode", implying that the new one doesn't. Even then, I don't think it's something you can just enable. I think the ambient lighting needs to reach a certain level for it to take effect.
floepie said:
I read it as a sort of critique in that "even the original Moto X has an auto boost mode", implying that the new one doesn't. Even then, I don't think it's something you can just enable. I think the ambient lighting needs to reach a certain level for it to take effect.
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I think you're right! That's unfortunate. I can't make that compromise (first world problems).
Pass
Probably in Lollipop for starters
For current users: How IS the MX2 Brightness in Direct Sunlight? Readable?
l_stevens said:
For current users: How IS the MX2 Brightness in Direct Sunlight? Readable?
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It is very bad. I almost want to return this phone because of this.
lyall29 said:
It is very bad. I almost want to return this phone because of this.
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Thanks for replying to steven. I'm kinda glad I didn't buy it now. That's a shame. Such a beautiful phone.
the new moto X (2014) is much brighter and easier to read in direct sunlight than the original X. (i own both). if for some reason the new X does not get bright enough, go into settings/display and turn off "adaptive brightness." then increase brightness to 100%. nice and bright. even indoors, 100% brightness is not as bright as 100% with "adaptive brightness" disabled. I keep "adaptive brightness" enabled and can usually read it fine in direct sunlight. I will admit that with "adaptive mode" enabled, occasionally it will not always enable the "extra bright mode" as soon as I would like but it is readable at 100%. AMOLED has never been as readable in direct sunlight as TFT screens but I prefer amoled for its better blacks, better energy efficiency and more vivid colors. the new X has the best amoled screen I have ever seen.
I am running stock lollipop
markospena said:
Thanks for replying to steven. I'm kinda glad I didn't buy it now. That's a shame. Such a beautiful phone.
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The screen brightness limitation on the Moto X 2014 is subjective. One man's "really bad" is another man's "satisfactory".
Some people may like their screens really bright in general, so when they go outside with the Moto X it feels dim to them. I've never had an issue reading the display in direct sunlight personally, and if I ever did I would just turn away from the sun so that a shadow was created. When I'm outside for long periods of time I tend to be socialising, making a phone call or travelling somewhere; therefore elite visibility in direct sunlight isn't a requirement for me.
Sometimes an opinion represents an individual's tastes and needs rather than a universal truth. To each his own.
moto
Just got the Moto X a few weeks ago. Just go to settings - display - turn off adaptive brightness

Moto X (2014) grainy display

Hello!
Yesterday I bought brand new Moto X 2nd gen. Just as I turned it up for the first time I noticed some weird grain on screen. Its more visible on brighter color a like white or even green-grey color lollipop uses when notification bar is pulled down. I didn't see much people reporting this problem so I decided I will post here first. Some people were saying this is how it is on every Pentile Matrix amoled screen, but I have to disagree. Never seen any galaxy suffering for this problem before. The grain is most noticable while scrolling and its always at the same place.
Amoled is always a part of a reason why I bought this phone-never had problems before. I like everything about this phone, so I really wouldnt want this to be a deal-breaker. I still have 2 years of warranty, but I am afraid that next moto would have same problems. Can some guys verify they don't have this un-clean like grain over whole display?
Motorola Moto X 2nd gen. XT1092
Model: SM3958AN7T1
Lollipop 5.0.1 - 5.1 (updated recently, problem persists)
Help me out guys, what should I do? Go for replacement?
Thanks, H
Haaveilen said:
Hello!
Yesterday I bought brand new Moto X 2nd gen. Just as I turned it up for the first time I noticed some weird grain on screen. Its more visible on brighter color a like white or even green-grey color lollipop uses when notification bar is pulled down. I didn't see much people reporting this problem so I decided I will post here first. Some people were saying this is how it is on every Pentile Matrix amoled screen, but I have to disagree. Never seen any galaxy suffering for this problem before. The grain is most noticable while scrolling and its always at the same place.
Amoled is always a part of a reason why I bought this phone-never had problems before. I like everything about this phone, so I really wouldnt want this to be a deal-breaker. I still have 2 years of warranty, but I am afraid that next moto would have same problems. Can some guys verify they don't have this un-clean like grain over whole display?
Motorola Moto X 2nd gen. XT1092
Model: SM3958AN7T1
Lollipop 5.0.1 - 5.1 (updated recently, problem persists)
Help me out guys, what should I do? Go for replacement?
Thanks, H
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Go for a replacement. I have no grain at all.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
I'm not really sure by what you mean by grain, but my display is absolutely fine. Bought my XT1097 2 days ago.. I think you should go for a replacement
Sent from my XT1097 using Tapatalk
Thank you both for quick answers. Well I might have gone for grainy instead of grain. Try googling grainy effect, and you will see where I am aiming .
I am contacting place where I got my phone from now. I will let you know.
Thanks, H
Haaveilen said:
Thank you both for quick answers. Well I might have gone for grainy instead of grain. Try googling grainy effect, and you will see where I am aiming .
I am contacting place where I got my phone from now. I will let you know.
Thanks, H
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You fixed screen?
Hello guys, my Moto X 2014 (XT1092) suffers from the same problem. I can see this grainy effect on the screen especially with white backgrounds, on the material keyboard and notification bar. What I have to do?
AMOLED just like that. White is not as white as on LCD/ IPS. It is normal
Well, a bit O-T here, but I thought I'd ask: how's the low brightness level on the phone?
Are the whites really turning blueish or other shades and how bright is it? I ask because I read one comment before where the person was saying that the display temains quite (too) bright even at the lowest setting and was saying that this is not a very good phone for night reading....
I bought (and returned a LG G2 before where it was the opposite: screen was too dark for normal use with any setting lower than 35%...)
Any input on this?
Edit: nevermind, soon after posting this I watched a video review where the guy was showing and saying that brightness can be dimmed down a lot and that it was fine for pre-bed time reading.
Brightness of my Moto X at mid level, automatic. Can still see the problem under the sunlight, with my eye near the screen.
i have the exact same problem too !! is this normall. it makes the screen look REALLY bad!!
Guys, Amaz sent me the replacement and the problem is still there.

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