[Q] MHL 3.0 and charging through micro USB? - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I'm having two problems that I believe are related.
1) I bought the official MHL 3.0 sony cable and my tv intermitently sees the hdmi source. Off and on every second and my phone screen never displays onto the screen. Also the phone alternates saying its being charged and not being charged.
2) With some power sources, charging by micro USB alternates being charge and not being charged off and on just like the above case. But some micro USB cables/sources work just fine. As well my magnetic dock connector charges my phone fine as well. USB hosting is fine too.
Anyone has tried MHL or have had similar problems? Should I contact clove? I'm in Canada and sending it back there seems quite the pain. And if i just can't use MHL or certain cables maybe i should bite my tongue and keep the phone as is. I love it otherwise and haven't phone any faults until trying the MHL cable...

old mhl adapter works
My old mhl adapter, which requires its own power source through micro USB does work and I can mirror my screen to the TV. I just think that mhl 3.0 with power from the HDMI is not enough to drive/consistently power my phone. Same for the micro USB connectors that don't seem to keep a consistent charge on my phone. Anyone see anything similar?

Use Chromecast, the phone has a dedicated cast screen option

Yes I have used chromecast and it works great. I just wonder if anyone has tried mhl 3.0 Sony cable or has had the same chagrging experience as me.

Were you able to solve this? Im thinking about getting an MHL 3.0 cable but not sure whether my monitor will be able to handle it

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you can connect Note 2 with USB speakers with this

http://www.amazon.com/PPA-Intl-SAMS...&qid=1362451080&sr=8-7&keywords=ppa+int'l+usb
Confirmed working with Note 2 with a catch, you need to power micro USB jack to make it work (and you can't charge Note 2 in USB host mode).
Tested with Logitech USB speakers and it works.
Why don't just buy a Bluetooth adapter for speakers and listen wirelessly?
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F8Z492TTP-Bluetooth-Music-Receiver/dp/B0047T79VS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362497880&sr=8-2&keywords=bluetooth+adapter+for+stereo
sweetboy02125 said:
Why don't just buy a Bluetooth adapter for speakers and listen wirelessly?
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F8Z492TTP-Bluetooth-Music-Receiver/dp/B0047T79VS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362497880&sr=8-2&keywords=bluetooth+adapter+for+stereo
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This is an experiment, but you can connect USB audio adapter to get SPDIF audio out through this way.
OTG cable with a charging port might be a better option, thats quite a large thing hanging off the end of you phone so it might be prone to knocks which will stress your usb port.
Theres another thread in this section title OTG with charging, in that thread this cable looks promising http://www.ebay.com/itm/261170130579
edit: You either need a kernel mod or a resistor between pins 4&5 to get otg charging working, a dead short wont work unless the kernel has been modified. My OTG cable arrived this morning. even wireless charging wont work. I dont really need this feature, only planning to use otg intermittently so I am not going to fix my cable.

JUICED SYSTEMS 5 IN 1 MHL Connection Kit

I found this product and was absolutely amazed with the quality and ease of use. It has hdmi, usb, sdcard, and micro sd card slots. You can find it here http://www.juicedsystems.com/product/juiced-systems-5-in-1-mhl-adapter/
Also the customer service is great if u have any problems, its warranty is amazing as well, if there is any defective product , contact juiced systems and they will replace it.
If u have 1 of these already then here is an instruction manual to help u better understand your product.
http://db.tt/X2OVU08o
Hi,
Thanks for the manual, very helpful. That is really a pity that no information is provided along with the adapter, neither in the box, nor on their web site. Where did you get it ? From Juice System support ?
I have got that connection kit. Everything works with my Galaxy note 2, but with the following strange behaviour:
The kit was delivered with a 11pin to 5pin adapter. Since S3 and GN2 have 11pin connector, I assumed first I had to use it, but nothing happened with my USB dongle or with any other USB device. Then I found out how to make that work:
For USB device, or SD / micro SD card, the adapter must be removed. The connection kit is power supplied directly by the phone. However, the phone can be charged if we connect the wall charger. The LED indicator and the button behave as described in the manual.
But HDMI output does not work at all.
To connect a HDMI cable, the 11 to 5 pins adapter must be used, and the wall charger must be connected. Then the connection kit is powered only by the wall charger. That seems that I get a normal 1080p signal with a 44khz 5.1 PCM audio stream (that is at least what my AV receiver says). But if I disconnect the HDMI cable and the wall charger, then USB, SD card are not recognized and nothing happens.
Do you have the same behaviour ?
After further investigation, the behaviour I described seems "normal".
That adapter was designed for GS2, which as a 5 pin MHL connector. So the data lines are switched in USB mode or MHL mode by the connection kit.
But the GS3 and GN2 have 11pin connector, with independent USB and MHL data lines.
So without the 11 to 5 adapter, only the USB pins are routed to the connection kit.
With the 11 to 5 adapter, only the MHL pins are routed to the connection kit.

Which MHL cable

Hi, im looking for a cable to connect the Z1 with TV.
Id like to be able to keep charging the phone while its connected and have an otg/usb port available.
Does the Sony product provide that sort of functionality?
For sure if you looking for a cable that do the best job then you have to look for Genuine Sony one. There is no that option, to charge and connect to TV via cable in the same time, if there is that will be provided by non genuine cables which probably, maybe, will have some issues or less quality.
The solution: you can charge in the same time and connect to TV by charging from magnetic Dock or Cable with famous 2 pins and connect the phone via MHL. This will work.

MHL adapter for M8

Does anybody know of a working MHL adapter with at least a 12" USB cable?
I tried these and they do not work (work probably 1 out of 20 times if you keep plugging/unplugging)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KGP5SEC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have an old samsung (link below) which works but the USB cable is very short
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks!
has anybody tried this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-MHL-Micr...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f3a100cdd
Is the Skiva MHL Micro USB to male HDMI cable (6.5 feet) for Samsung Galaxy S3 (SIII LTE i9300 L710 i747... the one that works with your M8?
I really want to get one that will work.
daniel2744 said:
Is the Skiva MHL Micro USB to male HDMI cable (6.5 feet) for Samsung Galaxy S3 (SIII LTE i9300 L710 i747... the one that works with your M8?
I really want to get one that will work.
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No, only the old Samsung one works consistently which has the short usb cAble.
I bought this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171391851548
works perfectly as I think most will.
It's all down to the sequence you plug the cables in.
Power>Phone>HDMI
Cant remember the correct sequence but try it out.
COPIED FROM AMAZON AD.
1. connect the charger to the adapter cable and power supply
2. connect the adapter cable to the HDTV device
3. connect the Smartphone to the adapter cable
Westylakey said:
I bought this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171391851548
works perfectly as I think most will.
It's all down to the sequence you plug the cables in.
Power>Phone>HDMI
Cant remember the correct sequence but try it out.
COPIED FROM AMAZON AD.
1. connect the charger to the adapter cable and power supply
2. connect the adapter cable to the HDTV device
3. connect the Smartphone to the adapter cable
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I tried allcombinations before posting and none works consistently with the 2 cables I bought .
With the old Samsung adapter, it doesn't matter which order you plug in phone, power and hdmi.
I don't think all cables/adapters (advertised as 5 pin) are same. It cut open the usb part from the working Samsung adapter and it has 7 wires.
The other non working ones have 5.
If anyone is interested to know, this one works for me most of the time. Doesn't matter which order I plug it in (I usually plug the phone last though)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-MHL-Micr...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item4185f8bc11
Its 3m in length and requires external power to work. It charges the phone although slower than MHL drains, i.e. your phone will still be discharging while connected via MHL but at a much slower rate.

OTG and charging

Does anyone know of a way to have OTG and charging at the same time? I know you can use wireless charging and otg at the same time, I'd like to know if it can all be done through usb.
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-P...1453677269&sr=8-1&keywords=otg+charging+cable
I have that exact cable. It only Powers the peripheral device. From what I can gather it's a software thing with the gs6, but I have such a small understanding of this kind of stuff.
It should be possible, I believe they had a docking station with a USB port that worked the way you're thinking
se1000 said:
It should be possible, I believe they had a docking station with a USB port that worked the way you're thinking
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For the galaxy s6?
hueye1 said:
For the galaxy s6?
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It was for the S4, but the reason it shouldn't work for the S6 is that the S6 no longer uses the micro-usb/MDL plug. Just saying that it should be possible to power the phone and do OTG
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...words=samsung+galaxy+smart+multimedia+docking
anyone knows if Marshmallow Android 6 new kernel supports charge phone over OTG cable for Galaxy S6 Edge?
Lava OTG charger, 40 bucks and works a couple times. Lol I'm seriously about ready to throw all my devices.
I bought this cable: http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-Player-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B00CXAC1ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453677269&sr=8-1&keywords=otg+charging+cable and it works fine with my friends Windows Phone, i.e harddrive connects and the phone charges, but on my S6 it doesn't charge at all. Is this a wiring issue with the S6 or some software restriction?
Ev0s said:
I bought this cable: xxx and it works fine with my friends Windows Phone, i.e harddrive connects and the phone charges, but on my S6 it doesn't charge at all. Is this a wiring issue with the S6 or some software restriction?
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did you ever find a solution - having same problem OTG cable working on other android devices but not my T-mobile S6 with broken touch screen
I know I'm late on this, but I have an S6 around and I'm trying to make other uses out of it, however I have struggled with this with everything I've done.
I haven't solved this, but today I came with an idea that may help some people, at least it seems it will work for me.
Ok, we cannot charge through the usb while using OTG, but we can charge through wireless and use OTG at the same time.
I have tested this with a cheap wireless base and I have plugged to the OTG first a powered usb hub and of course the phone was charging without problems. Then removed the hub and plugged a USB micro SD reader with a card directly to the OTG cable, it also continued to charge, it has charged to 100% with that plugged on.
Hope it helps.
Regards.

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