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[IMPORTANT] Stop blaming the cooks!!!

Damn....
Please remeber one thing before posting in threads about a released ROM:
- it is HARD work
- it takes TIME lots of TIME
- cooks still have a JOB or FAMILY
- they do it for FREE
- they cook THEIR PERSONAL rom
- maybe they ask "What to put in" BUT it stays their personal ROM
- cooking, porting and releasing is a very HARD JOB
So if you like the work - tell them
If you have bugs - tell them
If you have improvements - tell them
BUT DON´T tell them that you don´t like the work
don´t write a another release thread "i take your rom because teh XXX sucks"
don´t blame a cooks WORK
Because that happened we lost:
Itje = sad about reaction
ttran = sad about reaction
They take a break because of some guys spitting on their work and bombing with PMs
STOP IT! Please!
We need people like Itje, ttran, ivanmmj, and all other developers and user here who are working
constructivly!!!
@ itje and ttran and all cooks: Please report posts blaming your work and I will delete them!!

Daniel(mopps): I agree 100% to what you said. People should request, that too in the forums. They should not PM the cooks and 'demand' something. Also, they should stop complaining about their ROMs. It requires a lot of hard work and hell lot of time. Making the ROM; debugging it; polishing it; testing it requires lot of patience and time.
They make the rom avaliable to us for free. They dont charge us anything. Then, why the fu** some guys yammer about the contents of the ROM.
Message to the guys who complain: flash back stock WM5/WM6 and install what you want from the forum. Dont complain

The problem is that people are more likely to complain if something is not working that be thankfull when it does. Bad thing imo.
I'm using ttran's ROM at the moment (being pretty new to PPC devices) and it works like a charm. (Already did this in his thread, but) Thanks a lot!

It's very disappointing that a lot of people come here just for the software, they don't read (no matter if they know how to read), they take everything as granted, they cry for things they don't see, then they blame the cooks, no respect for the free meals.
The internet made a lot of smart people, it made much more stupid ones too.
Thanks to the cooks especially Itje, I'm running his Touch-IT.
Thanks to duprad, a nice humble tutor.
Thanks to everybody who contributes to this forum.
Let's keep it alive, active, and fruitful.
Peace.

o crap the title need to be bold and the thread need to be sticky. This is a big problem the better the rom get the more the complaint. i only read this cuz i saw your name under it.

ivanmmj = hasn't released his WM6.1 yet so hasn't had the opportunity to get the "my mms isn't working" complaint yet.
Actually, my MMS is working, but I'm sure it won't work for someone.

Shame...I love the work of Itje (I fell in love with touch-it so i haven't tried any other custom rom).
Maybe is it possible if the cooks like it to use some development/bugtrack software. This way bug's don't get reported hundreds of times. Especially when $#%@$#%-users who don't read can be banned from the tool.
Right now the forum is flooding with: "I just ignored everything you wrote and now my device is bricked. It's your ROM and I am too lame to use the search function so help me"-posts. And that makes the useful posts harder to find.

Who needs mms???
I do like the work of the rom-cooks and would like to take the opportunity to say "Thank You for Your work"!!!

2 cents:
I dont know if anyone here follows the PSP scene, but history repeats itself. Dark-AleX is the prime example http://www.dark-alex.org . His situation about a year ago is the exact thing that is going on here. In case you dont know, he creates custom firmware based off sony's original. Pretty much the exact same as the cooks do here (only 100 times harder.)
People were complaining thousands more than this place and he is the only "cook" (as the wm6 scene calls 'em).
Bottom line, he quit the scene for a while because of complainers, and everyone who used his CFW was upset because no more updates (and PSP updates are pretty much monthly). It was tough on everyone. But luckily he is back now, and based on following the PSP scene for long enough I can offer you some pretty good advice, based on this similar situation.
My suggestion to the cooks is this:
1) grab about 5 guys you trust on this forum, who are intelligent and can beta test, and don't mind doing it.
2) limit your releases from like 3 a month to once a month (or fewer) to ensure a working release and keep the complainers from demanding so much
3) work less frequently, and have little to no contact with the general public, dont monitor your thread (it gets too stressful). this is why you have the 5 or so guys you can trust. They are the middle man, and in turn get releases sooner than the general public and a little clout.

taspankya said:
2 cents:
I dont know if anyone here follows the PSP scene, but history repeats itself. Dark-AleX is the prime example http://www.dark-alex.org . His situation about a year ago is the exact thing that is going on here. In case you dont know, he creates custom firmware based off sony's original. Pretty much the exact same as the cooks do here (only 100 times harder.)
People were complaining thousands more than this place and he is the only "cook" (as the wm6 scene calls 'em).
Bottom line, he quit the scene for a while because of complainers, and everyone who used his CFW was upset because no more updates (and PSP updates are pretty much monthly). It was tough on everyone. But luckily he is back now, and based on following the PSP scene for long enough I can offer you some pretty good advice, based on this similar situation.
My suggestion to the cooks is this:
1) grab about 5 guys you trust on this forum, who are intelligent and can beta test, and don't mind doing it.
2) limit your releases from like 3 a month to once a month (or fewer) to ensure a working release and keep the complainers from demanding so much
3) work less frequently, and have little to no contact with the general public, dont monitor your thread (it gets too stressful). this is why you have the 5 or so guys you can trust. They are the middle man, and in turn get releases sooner than the general public and a little clout.
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Very sound advice.
Cooks:
Keep in mind - some poeple are never happy regardless of the case; you've just got to let that go. See those of us who appreciate what you do and tell you such.
I know that at least a few of the cooks mentioned has received a PM from me offering support and thanks for their work or thier comments in their threads.
ITJE - Love your stuff bro do what you got to do to get where you want to go and don't let anyone stand in your way.
Ivanmmj currently LOVING your CleanROM Final - looking forward to your next works . . . .
tran001 Loved and used your Open Touch series - keep up the good work!

just want to say for the record that i have complained to ttran before (during the rocky periods of very early versions of open touch). then i realized, i was an ass to do so. so i paypal'ed him 5 bucks (beer money) soon after. sorry about that ttran. lol, i think we moved passed it though.
when a scene grows you get more noobs. and "noobs" suck the life blood out of a thriving community. if you cant use common sense or a search button than you are a noob at using a computer.
there goes the neighborhood.

taspankya said:
2 cents:
I dont know if anyone here follows the PSP scene, but history repeats itself. Dark-AleX is the prime example http://www.dark-alex.org . His situation about a year ago is the exact thing that is going on here. In case you dont know, he creates custom firmware based off sony's original. Pretty much the exact same as the cooks do here (only 100 times harder.)
People were complaining thousands more than this place and he is the only "cook" (as the wm6 scene calls 'em).
Bottom line, he quit the scene for a while because of complainers, and everyone who used his CFW was upset because no more updates (and PSP updates are pretty much monthly). It was tough on everyone. But luckily he is back now, and based on following the PSP scene for long enough I can offer you some pretty good advice, based on this similar situation.
My suggestion to the cooks is this:
1) grab about 5 guys you trust on this forum, who are intelligent and can beta test, and don't mind doing it.
2) limit your releases from like 3 a month to once a month (or fewer) to ensure a working release and keep the complainers from demanding so much
3) work less frequently, and have little to no contact with the general public, dont monitor your thread (it gets too stressful). this is why you have the 5 or so guys you can trust. They are the middle man, and in turn get releases sooner than the general public and a little clout.
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I would say that this is a very good idea. It would take alot of the stress off of the chefs here.

taspankya said:
2 cents:
My suggestion to the cooks is this:
1) grab about 5 guys you trust on this forum, who are intelligent and can beta test, and don't mind doing it.
2) limit your releases from like 3 a month to once a month (or fewer) to ensure a working release and keep the complainers from demanding so much
3) work less frequently, and have little to no contact with the general public, dont monitor your thread (it gets too stressful). this is why you have the 5 or so guys you can trust. They are the middle man, and in turn get releases sooner than the general public and a little clout.
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They DO!
They have betatester and everyone who knows me - I try to help everyone...
BUT they also want to be proud of their work... adn it is soooo disappointed when someone starts yelling at their work...
And some parts only can answered by the cooks because the reghacks are sometime a "secret" of each cook - and that is good so...

papamopps said:
They DO!
They have betatester and everyone who knows me - I try to help everyone...
BUT they also want to be proud of their work... adn it is soooo disappointed when someone starts yelling at their work...
And some parts only can answered by the cooks because the reghacks are sometime a "secret" of each cook - and that is good so...
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I am an active open touch user so i can only speak from my thread interactions with ttran. His beta testers need to moderate and be the communication between the users and him. In theory he has them but in practice i do not believe he uses them like he should. Thats nothing bad on his part, he wants to be on the ground level with the end user as well. Which is ok, until it gets overwhelming - which it obviously has gotten. Cooks can still keep their secret and only deal with beta testers who will not know their secrets, if it is that imperative to them. I agree it is disappointing that this is and has happened. No one wins from this situation.

Ban those ungrateful, undeserving and disrespectful ************s.

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damn that both really left?? they were the ****in best.. when did they say that they left? (damn these ppl..)

frozinwater said:
damn that both really left?? they were the f***** best.. when did they say that they left? (damn these ppl..)
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They did? Uh... that's not good...
That makes me the only active cook... maybe I should hold on to my current finished release until they come back. lol (that and I'm waiting on the graphics "department" to get me the graphics that I need.)

frozinwater said:
damn that both really left?? they were the ****in best.. when did they say that they left? (damn these ppl..)
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They didn't leave. They are just taking a break.

What a shame
This is disturbing news to this avid reader / member too. I am a junior member who has used several of ttran's roms (and gave him some beer $) AND am eagerly waiting to try ivan's cleanrom wm6.1 if he blesses us with its release.
I work in a very high stress I.T. environment with users making unrealistic demands all day long (but at least I get paid) so I can relate to wanting to take a break. Ttran and Itje are very valuable members to this forum! I read their posts on many different threads and appreciate all they do.
Other members and especially newbies - READ! READ! READ! Not of all my forum searches give me the answers I expect, so I search more and READ READ READ. Please do the same!

free drink mix software?

finally 21 and now i want software to help me get drunk in delicious fashion soo does anyone know of free software with mixes based on ingredients and such?

Here is one free one that I know of, however it is in no way the best. It actually references an online database to pull the drinks, so you would need a data plan to utilize it. It can be downloaded from freewarepocketpc at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocketender.html
The best one that I have found is not free but was only like $14 USD and is fantastic. It is from Town Compass, but it is quite inclusive... Here's some of the info: http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=490101

App
There's a bunch on this site. check them out. i havent tried it yet thou.
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http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/drink+mix
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/alcoholic+drink
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/cocktail
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this is to check if your sober enough to drive lol.( theres probably a better app out there...)
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Health/AlcoholLevel-67390.shtml
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i personally love the bartender app on the tmobile G1 but i cannot find it for my phone... errrrrr
well i hope i helped some. and if anyone can find the bartender app from tmobile g1 and its compatible with raphael/fuze i would love to know!!
later

After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?

AvantGo
Try using www.avantgo.com and add the "Drink Boy" channel. You'll get good recipes on a nice interface that you can view and search for offline. When you're online, it updates itself. I've had a lot of fun with it.
Oh yeah! Don't drink and drive.

speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I would definately be down. I totally concur. Half the bartender apps are outdated or are a bit difficult to navigate through. Being an amature bartender, I use my database quite a bit, but yeah if there was a program that would allow you to enter in your liquors on hand and priovide you with possibile combinations... Damn... That'd be sweet....
Sorry it's too early in the morning....

speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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Heck yeah!

+1 as my favorite quote is: "Candy is Dandy, But Liquor is Quicker"
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speed_pour said:
After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I'd love a drink mixing app.... so count me twice (for each hand that can hold a drink) lol

iam also a bartender and would love an app for mix drinks and shots!!! but dont forget to add the DEATHWISH shot:
DEATHWISH:
1/3 JAGER
1/3 WILD TURKEY 101
1/3 BACARDI 151
SPLASH OF GRENADINE...
(layer grenadine on bottom of shot glass, after pouring in liqours...)
(NOT FOR THE LIGHT DRINKER!!!)

I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!

sherv said:
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
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I freely admit, since I'm out of work right now, I'm fine with being a whore
I've already got a bit of this started, but I'm working on another project first that I think will get a lot of wide-spread usage across the forum. But I'll get back to working on this one very soon.
In the mean time, are there any particular features anybody is looking for. I'm sure it'll be easy enough to figure out all of the features the drinkers want, but what about bartenders? Tell me how often you think you'll be entering drinks, what extra features do you need. Will you actually be using this while at work...with your fingers?
I know this is in the Raph section, though it belongs in Q&A or D&H, but does anybody here want a QVGA version, or dare I ask, W(Q)VGA? If this app is going to see finger-based controls (which I'd expect to make sense), it's not really going to work out having small windows controls, so graphics/resolution will be considered for the first version.

This site works well for me Webtender

thedarkness81 said:
This site works well for me Webtender
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I used to be a regular contributor to the forums there...The biggest problem is that the drink database is absolutely cluttered with incorrect entries and missing a lot of common recipes.
When I start building a collection of recipes, there's actually a couple of people from that forum that I'm going to ask for help/collaboration. I'm also going to throw them a heads up to ask for any thoughts from them on what they would like to see.

Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...

GoBills2184 said:
Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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lol, from me, it'll be at least a couple of weeks. I'm in the middle of working on another app that'll be quite a bit more relevant on this forum. But I will be coming back to this app shortly.
I'll post more info to this thread when I start it, and then I'll create a release thread in D&H (and post a link to it here) when there's a reasonably good start on a beta version.
You can help out by giving some ideas of what features you'd like to see in it.

this is very cool that you'd consider putting an app together, pour...the best reference app/source I've found is that DrinkBoy channel on avantgo. That said, my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group, but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!

bigred727 said:
my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group
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I kinda suspect, with luck, my app will draw attention from hopefully every group....the college students, bar patrons, and even bartenders from different types of places. For that reason, a "simple" app might not be too likely. Simple interface is definitely part of my plan, but the application itself is going to be pretty powerful and probably meant to cover a lot of people's uses.
bigred727 said:
but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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- Favorites will be very easy to implement, so this is pretty much a sure thing.
- The database itself is a subject I intend to take more seriously than a lot of people probably expect (more on that in the future).
- I've got several ideas for searches/filters, each will be fleshed out as I build it. I'm aiming mostly for live searches and the first will be using quick ingredient filtering.
- fuzzy search...I'll see what I can do, but that's one I know very little about. Some quick googling turned up some information that's possibly VERY usable, but it's all written for the the big brother .Net Framework while the Compact Framework gets no love. I'll bookmark some of this stuff and see where I can go with it after I've released a first version. As much as it might be cool, I can't justify porting Lucene.Net to the compact framework for this project. In the mean time, I can use a "Sounds Like" mechanism that would probably do pretty well for an early version. I'm also a little worried about performance.
As a note, I'd previously said that I wouldn't be starting this until I finished another application. I feel a little dumb for not seeing it sooner, but I discovered Sashimi exists (though I haven't started testing it). While it sorely lacks about half of the features I planned to build, it does a far better job at the other half of the features I had in mind. I'm going to try out Sashimi for a while to determine if there's enough reason to build my app (or possibly a configurator/extension of sorts for use with Sashimi, if possible). As a result, I'm going to put that project on hold and move on to this one.
Second note...err, request actually...I'm ok with graphics...sometimes...But I want to make this app graphically attractive and possibly add skinning ability. At the very least, I will need a few decent looking icons for a few things, at the most, it might turn into an entire interface design. One of my goals is to make this app roughly comparable to something people might expect to buy form the iPhone AppStore (after all, everybody is *****ing about the lack of pretty WM apps). So, if anybody has decent graphics skills and is up for helping out, drop me a line and we'll bump some ideas around when I get to the right stage.

wow i had almost forgot about this thread glad to see something has come of it!
definetly excited to see what you come up with

Is this program still in active development? I hope it is because it sounds like it could be really nice/useful!

Finally, an ORGANIZED place for cooks to put their ROMs

I am working on a website where XDA cooks along with others can post their custom ROMs. I always tought this site is a disorganised mess if you are a newcomer. I built this solution from scratch and it's fully dynamic (PHP+MySQL). I'm almost done with the basics (registering, submitting, browsing...) but I'm still open to suggestions.
Here are a few screenshots. I'd love to get some opinions.
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A few possible domains for the website:
deviceroms.com
wmroms.com
To-do:
-Implement the ratings system
-Spread the word
-"Share this page" and other similar features.

[this used to be a reply to a post that was deleted]
I'm also looking for a complete list of Windows Mobile devices so I can list them in the catalog. I already have HTC devices, but I'd need the devices from Acer, HP and the rest too.

So, what do you people think?

Too many usernames
Hi,
That's a tidy looking design, from a user point of view I like XDA Developers because I sign in, and have access to some user support, software downloads, and ROM updates - without having to sign-up for another website...
I really like the idea of a dedicated portal for ROM updates, and detailed instructions for newbies - how about using your portal as an affiliate to XDA developers? So, for instance, I would use the same credentials to log into either site, or even a shared cookie / user database?
For obvious reasons I do not like to use the same credentials between sites, so for you to broker an arrangement with the administrator of this website for sharing the credential database / profiles / and web site traffic would make life for people like me easier....
If I were the administrator of this website with a large following I'd jump at the opportunity for portals and shared resources on other hosts to boost popularity...
There is a new portal on xda-developers coming soon, perhaps they'll address this?

there's no place like xda for ROMs, i'll pass. nice effort though.

mybetrayal said:
I really like the idea of a dedicated portal for ROM updates, and detailed instructions for newbies - how about using your portal as an affiliate to XDA developers? So, for instance, I would use the same credentials to log into either site, or even a shared cookie / user database?
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mybetrayal said:
If I were the administrator of this website with a large following I'd jump at the opportunity for portals and shared resources on other hosts to boost popularity...
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Unless they bring you on as a contractor to add something to their existing vBulletin install, having a new 3rd party website access their user database is a major security worry. I guess they could create a user authentication API for you to plug into but that'll still be something to be concerned of both from XDA and existing XDA users trusting a new website.
Also with the gray shade legality of these non-MS authorized ROMs, I wouldn't expect their stance to be that accomodating to this. Perhaps you should consider focusing on helping them orginize these new software releases created by the XDA community. That's even harder to sort thru than the ROMs.
Just giving honest opinion from a fellow web developer.

I mostly made this to practice PHP while creating something that could potentially maintain itself financially (domain name+hosting).
I want to provide a way for newcomers and old users to easily find and compare ROMs for their devices. The forum as it actually is is not exactly a welcoming place for those looking for step-by-step guides and organized information. As for software releases, I'd be glad to support them to and even host them if I can afford it. Once the main frame is built, it can and will be reused for Android and software.
As for working with XDA-developers, I'd love it. I aim to integrate XDA-devs as tightly as possible with the rest of the site. However, credentials will stay separate from this site. It's not secure as stated above and might require ridiculous amounts of work from me and the (possibly disinterested) XDA-developers admin. Yet, there will be XDA-developers integration to a certain level.
deviceroms will be a tool, not a community.

I like this concept, please make it real soon and use a better design and simpler design for it

Semseddin said:
I like this concept, please make it real soon and use a better design and simpler design for it
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I tried to make it as simple and efficient as possible; navigation is simple, registration does not require email confirmation and everything is listed as to make browsing easier for a "ROM shopper". There WILL be moderation as I opted for full HTML support in the description.
As for the delivery date, expect it to be soon enough. I've got only a few work hours and I've done 75 percent of the job after already after 40 days.
The site as it is works but lacks critical features (editing existing listings, rating ROMs and changing account password).

If you need help with maintenance or moderating, let me know. Btw a small forum wouldn't hurt,too. At least a tool to comment on roms will be nice. People might read the reviews of them before downloading.
All the best !

nice job
really hope that you finhish the site soon

Semseddin said:
If you need help with maintenance or moderating, let me know. Btw a small forum wouldn't hurt,too. At least a tool to comment on roms will be nice. People might read the reviews of them before downloading.
All the best !
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Hey, you just gave me an idea! I know there are a lot of support/bug report posts in the ROM threads. This will also happen in the comments, so I'll include a dropdown box where they can select the comment's nature so they can be filtered.

You're welcome

That's a great idea.
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Hey, you just gave me an idea! I know there are a lot of support/bug report posts in the ROM threads. This will also happen in the comments, so I'll include a dropdown box where they can select the comment's nature so they can be filtered.
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You should consider DIV tabs separating between comments/bug reports. Also you should consider doing a multi-faceted rating system:
Speed
Stability
Free Memory
Built-in Applications
Style/Visual
Then allow people to search and filter based on date plus the rating criteria they are looking for. (ie. within last 3 months that have average 5-star speed ratings)

Also please please please make sure your coding is secure.
The last person who posted on the board showing off that he made a windows mobile application blog/website had made his site public with major security flaws (SQL injection). If I didn't point it to him that there was a major flaw, it might have been left open and someone could have stolen all the e-mails and login info. Since it was a custom job he could have also stored the passwords in plaintext in the database, so any hacker using sql injection could have gotten XDA member's e-mail addresses and passwords which could be horrible if the XDA member is the type that uses the same password on multiple websites.

SeanFromSoCal said:
You should consider DIV tabs separating between comments/bug reports. Also you should consider doing a multi-faceted rating system:
Speed
Stability
Free Memory
Built-in Applications
Style/Visual
Then allow people to search and filter based on date plus the rating criteria they are looking for. (ie. within last 3 months that have average 5-star speed ratings)
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That's a great idea. There is no ratings system yet, so that might be a cool idea. I still can't figure out a better way than storing individual votes in a table to limit users to a single vote per ROM.
SeanFromSoCal said:
The last person who posted on the board showing off that he made a windows mobile application blog/website had made his site public with major security flaws (SQL injection). If I didn't point it to him that there was a major flaw, it might have been left open and someone could have stolen all the e-mails and login info. Since it was a custom job he could have also stored the passwords in plaintext in the database, so any hacker using sql injection could have gotten XDA member's e-mail addresses and passwords which could be horrible if the XDA member is the type that uses the same password on multiple websites.
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I'm a starter but I am well aware of the risks of SQL and script injection attacks. I am actively reading on the topic in order to prevent these before going live.

N1c0_ds said:
That's a great idea. There is no ratings system yet, so that might be a cool idea. I still can't figure out a better way than storing individual votes in a table to limit users to a single vote per ROM.
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Yeah that's the best way to do it. You could always have a CRON script to run everynight to parse the votes and store that value in a separate "ROM_Rating_Summary" table.
ROM_ID, RatingCount, AverageSpeedRating, AverageStabilityRating, AverageMemoryRating, AverageFeatureRating, AverageStyleRating, TotalSpeedPoints, TotalStabilityPoints, TotalMemoryPoints, TotalFeaturePoints, TotalStylePoints
So the cron will add up all the SpeedPoints from each user rating (4+3+5+2+3+4+4) and then divide it by RatingCount. 4+3+5+2+3+4+4 = 25 / 7 = 3.57 avg rating in Speed category. The cron will add the last days' new rating points and increment the rating count and then you divide and get the revised average rating. By parsing only the last day's worth of comments this way, it should be fast to loop thru even 1000 ROMs.
Have fun with it.

Alright folks! I'm 90% done! Once I get the BBCode support working, I'll upload it online for bug testing

About Rom development (Carburano and Spica)

Hi all, I still don't understand why Spica's and Carburano's threads are closed.
Can anyone explain me what happened, please?
Also, is there anyway or something I can do to help Carburano or Spica, so they can have their threads back? I don't think I'm the only one who wants that, so if anyone that have used their Roms could answer me, it would be great. Thanks in adavance.

This post sums it all up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26785899&postcount=2948

Where that post does indeed sum it up, Stefans reply is wrong and full of holes.
If he wants to start going on about 5 days to release source, because of the GPL - then he needs to actually READ the GPL instead of just reading something in a 10 line thread.
Does the GPL require that source code of modified versions be posted to the public?
The GPL does not require you to release your modified version, or any part of it. You are free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing them. This applies to organizations (including companies), too; an organization can make a modified version and use it internally without ever releasing it outside the organization.
But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL.
Thus, the GPL gives permission to release the modified program in certain ways, and not in other ways; but the decision of whether to release it is up to you.
Now this is the kicker. Releasing it to the public can mean beta sure, as everything is covered by the original, but if users are labelled by the developer as INTERNAL TESTERS - then publication of the source code IS NOT REQUIRED, and therefore, causes no harm to this forum.
If people actually fully understood the licenses they impose, the world would be an awfully better place
Yesterday was a harsh day in development for this platform.
The idea of the GPLv2 is absurd anyway. You MUST release your finished source - from which ANYBODY is perfectly covered to use it for commercial purposes.
Wow.
Nice.
Don't you think that is a bit crap?
And thats the underlying reason as to why none of my work is covered by the GPL. Created Commons none commercial is so much damn better.

mrotacon said:
Where that post does indeed sum it up, Stefans reply is wrong and full of holes.
If he wants to start going on about 5 days to release source, because of the GPL - then he needs to actually READ the GPL instead of just reading something in a 10 line thread.
Does the GPL require that source code of modified versions be posted to the public?
The GPL does not require you to release your modified version, or any part of it. You are free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing them. This applies to organizations (including companies), too; an organization can make a modified version and use it internally without ever releasing it outside the organization.
But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL.
Thus, the GPL gives permission to release the modified program in certain ways, and not in other ways; but the decision of whether to release it is up to you.
Now this is the kicker. Releasing it to the public can mean beta sure, as everything is covered by the original, but if users are labelled by the developer as INTERNAL TESTERS - then publication of the source code IS NOT REQUIRED, and therefore, causes no harm to this forum.
If people actually fully understood the licenses they impose, the world would be an awfully better place
Yesterday was a harsh day in development for this platform.
The idea of the GPLv2 is absurd anyway. You MUST release your finished source - from which ANYBODY is perfectly covered to use it for commercial purposes.
Wow.
Nice.
Don't you think that is a bit crap?
And thats the underlying reason as to why none of my work is covered by the GPL. Created Commons none commercial is so much damn better.
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Oops, my bad. I gave the link to the wrong post, link corrected now. Check it now please.
I agree with what you have written, and i fully support Carburano with his effort, against the one who keeps saying "Goodbye", but just refuses to leave

It's sad to see that this forum is just dying.

GPL
mrotacon said:
The idea of the GPLv2 is absurd anyway. You MUST release your finished source - from which ANYBODY is perfectly covered to use it for commercial purposes.
Wow.
Nice.
Don't you think that is a bit crap?
And thats the underlying reason as to why none of my work is covered by the GPL. Created Commons none commercial is so much damn better.
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Well, like it or not, but this is the license of the Linux kernel, not just a forum rule. This license may not be appropriate for your work (and hence be qualified as "a bit crap"), but with a different license, the Linux kernel would probably be very different now, probably not in a state that I would want to use it to run on my laptop and my phone.
PS: This is just a comment on the license, not on the DjangoManouche/Spica/Gueste issue
Tom

Ohhhh no...... i just read the closed threads

The best way to reopen the treads I think will be no comments

I asked moderator to close my thread... Btw i won't leave and i don't want to defend spica or blame stefan...
I just want a thing: equal treatment until war is over...
Sent from DjangoManouche!

carburano said:
I asked moderator to close my thread... Btw i won't leave and i don't want to defend spica or blame stefan...
I just want a thing: equal treatment until war is over...
Sent from DjangoManouche!
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That's no solution.
Spica and Stefan should stop the "war", all threads can be opened again and everything is good.

Thanks a lot to everyone who has answered me, now I quite understand what's happened.
I believe is bs (sorry for the expression) that they closed Spica's thread because of some missing links, I mean, he does what he likes and he is sharing it with us, isn't it freedom? Isn't Android supposed to be a FREE OS? Isn't like Xda is paying Spica for what he does, so I don't understand why they were so harsh.
What Spica does help us all, and keep us happy with our O2X. I'm mad at Xda and specially to the one who dared disable Spica
carburano said:
I asked moderator to close my thread... Btw i won't leave and i don't want to defend spica or blame stefan...
I just want a thing: equal treatment until war is over...
Sent from DjangoManouche!
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Hey there Carburano it's nice and quite a relieve to read that you are not leaving us. Even if I don't like that your post is closed, I gotta admit that I like what you're doing, it's really unfair what happened and clearly something had to be done. I just hope this problem ends up soon so we can have Spica and you back. Hope you're doing great, see you soon.

I believe you should seek Paul's aid on Modaco... and resurrect their O2X section. Most of us are already members also there from old good Gr/Fr days.
I've had many devices in past years and such quarrels were always present here on XDA. It annoys me much... Moderators cannot do anything about it. It just a matter of working style of each dev, which are all of course specific artist like personalities, not some kind of slave labor unit under certain company to whom you can poke GPL in the eye... (like HP for example).
XDA forgets all the time, one cannot ask from other responsibility, if everything this is a pure charity work.
If you wish my opinion... Spicas SR4 are so very raw betas and suffer from so many problems and ask the dev to continuously update the code, when it evolves even in hours, to decide witch part of the code causes bsod etc it is kind of lame to ask a broken code.

Bouba123 said:
Well, like it or not, but this is the license of the Linux kernel, not just a forum rule. This license may not be appropriate for your work (and hence be qualified as "a bit crap"), but with a different license, the Linux kernel would probably be very different now, probably not in a state that I would want to use it to run on my laptop and my phone.
PS: This is just a comment on the license, not on the DjangoManouche/Spica/Gueste issue
Tom
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That's right man, you are correct.
That is why I stated that if he classed everyone as internal testers who acquired it here, in an open community (granted) - but one you have to register to become a part of (closed) then he doesn't actually need to release the source at this time.
Once he actually labels his project as a release, and drops the work test from his posts, the He has to comply fully with the GPL.
I'm not finding excuses for the guy - as it doesn't excuse him from the previous releases with only having one complete source, but he can't do that for the previous kernels. He suffered data loss, and where he should have had it all backed up, even stored in the cloud (hindsight is a *****) its impossible for him to do that.
He has one source publicized and available for the project which is his only Full release now.
It depends how he - himself, classes his project, and interprets the GPL.
Its obvious from my previous post that I dislike the GPL (to put it mildly). Where I agree with Stallman's ideas on how a system should be internally managed, I find his ideas for how to achieve this somewhat distasteful (at least in V2 and V3).
That's just my personal opinion from a little incident in my past, which saw my work used for something I did not see fit, nor agree with or support in anyway. Everyone has opinions, and mine make me slightly biased with my comments (loopholes aren't always for exploitation), and for that I ask forgiveness.
But he does fall into that category.

mrotacon said:
That's right man, you are correct.
That is why I stated that if he classed everyone as internal testers who acquired it here, in an open community (granted) - but one you have to register to become a part of (closed) then he doesn't actually need to release the source at this time.
Once he actually labels his project as a release, and drops the work test from his posts, the He has to comply fully with the GPL.
I'm not finding excuses for the guy - as it doesn't excuse him from the previous releases with only having one complete source, but he can't do that for the previous kernels. He suffered data loss, and where he should have had it all backed up, even stored in the cloud (hindsight is a *****) its impossible for him to do that.
He has one source publicized and available for the project which is his only Full release now.
It depends how he - himself, classes his project, and interprets the GPL.
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the problem here is that the almost all mods doesn't understand what GPL really is
and just think "GPL = you must upload all your sources"
carburano said:
I asked moderator to close my thread... Btw i won't leave and i don't want to defend spica or blame stefan...
I just want a thing: equal treatment until war is over...
Sent from DjangoManouche!
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currently deciding what i should do
move to RootzWiki until XDA realize they should care more about their devs and not about the users or stay here
they always say dev's are important on XDA they keep the community running
but in the mean while when a dev can't defend himself against a user or another dev without even swearing
you can expect a huge flame war from users because they praise the ROM dev (or copy cat in some cases)
a mod steps in you get a warning and the flamers their post get deleted
i always thougt this community wanted to defend their devs and help them because this community would not exist without them
but it seems like they just want more and more users
this is just how i think about XDA
RootzWiki atleast protect their devs
their mods ask you about your part of the story and after that they decide that to do
here on xda you can expect a instant ban or warning
i am not saying every mod here is like that but the most are...
RootzWiki > xda

Where it seems that is true, Its up to us to give them that knowledge (educate is too harsh - its boring to read through Lol)
Spica will no doubt continue work on his kernel. Not for everyone but for himself. The sensation you get when you finish a project is pretty cool (orgasmic?? ^^) indeed.
I hope he tries to rectify this, and also the issues he and Stefan have with each other. With the development of two kernels simultaneously (which, to be fair - both offer advantages in different categories over one another) coupled with the production of an astoundingly good Rom, meant the community [pre-ICS (stable!)] were motivated, and moving with good pace, in a positive gradient.
He-man is not real. No one can have that much power.
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If those guys can enjoy dinner together, so can you two!

mrotacon said:
Where it seems that is true, Its up to us to give them that knowledge (educate is too harsh - its boring to read through Lol)
Spica will no doubt continue work on his kernel. Not for everyone but for himself. The sensation you get when you finish a project is pretty cool (orgasmic?? ^^) indeed.
I hope he tries to rectify this, and also the issues he and Stefan have with each other. With the development of two kernels simultaneously (which, to be fair - both offer advantages in different categories over one another) coupled with the production of an astoundingly good Rom, meant the community [pre-ICS (stable!)] were motivated, and moving with good pace, in a positive gradient.
He-man is not real. No one can have that much power.
If those guys can enjoy dinner together, so can you two!
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That's a good posting indeed
Though I think everything isn't as bad as it might seem. Spica's threads could already be open again, they could have been reopened 10 minutes after close.
He just needs to execute
git push origin
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in his local kernel git repository and everything is fine. Upload will take about 5 minutes or sth. and all his threads are open again.
His account on the other hand is disabled for multiple personal insults like this.
So @owain protecting developers is good and right for sure, but it doesn't include giving the DEV the freedom to post whatever he wants ;-)
Netiquette still has to be followed. (Fortunately)

I hadn't seen the post.
He was wrong to publicly make it personal to someone other than yourself.
Slander is never friendly

mrotacon said:
I hadn't seen the post.
He was wrong to publicly make it personal to someone other than yourself.
Slander is never friendly
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There have been 4 or 5 such postings containing direct personal insults against my person (in 1 day). This is why his account is disabled, not related to the sources-problematic.
Too bad these postings still haven't been deleted.

Stefan Gündhör said:
So @owain protecting developers is good and right for sure, but it doesn't include giving the DEV the freedom to post whatever he wants ;-)
Netiquette still has to be followed. (Fortunately)
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I wasn't protecting Spica nor blaming you nor talking about this situation
I was just giving my opinion about how XDA is
Not in this situation but more in general
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda premium

I did not want to talk about this one more time...but this is surely becoming a public debate where each one of us are trying to put our thought and what we know better. I am giving mine.
I am not saying that the greats like OWAIN STEFAN TEMASEK CARBURANO or anyone else who are legends and have contributed as much as the number of users, are wrong or right or siding someone or unbiased....
but, everyone will agree that this is not just one incident or two...this is a big continuation of posts from almost five to six months where the war of words and sometimes abuses or personal digs were constantly made...sometimes in the opening posts where description about the ROM or Kernel were generally expected. People who have followed this forum from those days of Topo,Navlem,Amnon (those gentlemen)will agree that, now the posts have become very personal and trying to show that mine is good and others are not."I am working hard and you are not".BREAKTHROUGH REVOLUTION AMAZING and words which one uses are countered by the other.This is the main root cause of the issue.
I am not good at interpreting rules but I surely dont like someone who is trying to tell me rules in front of public....I surely think that this could have been more amicable had it been a bit more accommodative, mutually respected....this is something a bit lacking.
I respect Stefan for the new tool,the amount of hardwork he has put to give us an excellent ROM, kernel and so many other things.
I also have great respect for Spica, for the things he has done for us users.
But, I dont agree to the fact that it is just a personal insult of one side...I have been spending close to 5hrs everyday and can remember things of such bitter taste which went for a period of time until there was a warning by the MOD.
I request everyone to understand this situation and not take sides to prove someone is right and someone else was insulted....
but I sincerely will request STEFAN and SPICA to join hands and bring a SMILE on everyone's faces in this forum.No one is perfect but we can always bring smiles and happiness AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE WORLD AROUND US.
Please dont take this as an insult or offence...I SINCERELY HOPE AND PRAY PEACE PREVAILS AND SUN SHINES BIRDS CHIRP LOVE SPREADS
thanks everyone...I am just a noob and forgive me if I am wrong

Velvet Themes - Support & Feedback, Communication

Hey everyone! So after a bit of a break I'm back and I've brought along some new themes for everyone to enjoy! Some of you may remember me over the past few years from various LG devices. So what the purpose of this thread is, is to provide support, feedback and allow me to communicate, interact and discuss my themes with all members of xda. I know that a lot of people now are pivoting to telegram but honestly albeit convenient it's just not as good for people to find things. With this format other members can view the thread and see suggestions or issues that have been brought up or add their own. I much prefer it this way and with all of my other threads I've found XDA to be the best way to provide support and gather feedback from members all over the world. There are a few rules that must be abided by. First, the purpose of this thread is exactly what the title states; "Support, feedback & communication". It is not to generate sales/revenue and as such I request that no paid links be posted. I understand some people like to make life easier to those who can't find a link but I forbid this as does XDA rules. XDA rules (11) states that
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and to offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar / substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
So let's keep it that way. Next, I don't mind if you ask me about eta's. I know some people get quite fired up about that but it doesn't bother me. This doesn't mean that when you ask, that one magically shows up. My life has become much busier than it was in the past and I spend considerably more time creating themes than I did when I first was making them for the V20, G6, V30. After those devices it became possible to theme more elements and I also believe my abilities improved. So I really try to focus on attention to details. Next let's have some fun in here. After all this is supposed to be a fun hobby that we all share (customizing our devices). I absolutely love screenshots so if you want to post some of your home screen setup while using my themes, by all means show off your creativity. Lastly be kind and courteous to each other. If you've read this far I thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing your input and feedback. Update info:
In closing some of you may ask about (insert theme name) that you used to use on your old (insert name) device. Some of these themes are anywhere from 2-4 years old and honestly they likely won't be. After about a year or two I normally stop updating a theme. Some themes in all honesty don't require updates. More on that in a bit. But here's the thing. LG has an interesting way of doing things. So for example let's say you used pixel experience on your G7 of V40 and you liked using it. Sure I could technically update it to work on the V60. But by doing so it would cause it to stop working on the G7 or V40. That is simply not fair to do to those who have not changed their devices. I've tried to make it work in the past and it always causes more harm than good so for that reason I generally avoid that. Back to update frequency. As I was saying, not all themes will require frequent updates. A theme sometimes reaches a point where it is pretty much bug free and eventually it runs it course and I don't just update for the sake of updating. An update serves a purpose of either improving of correcting something and sometimes less is more.
Now for my first theme which has an optional add-on system icon pack:
E for Extinction​
Screenshots​
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So I really debated making this theme for a long time. I had the odd email here and there over the years asking if I could make this and I always politely declined. But I decided finally to do it... Why not right! Anyway I think this turned out pretty well and it has dark and light mode styles, icons and wallpapers. When you want to switch switch to default theme, then choose either light or dark mode and reapply the theme. If not the icons won't take properly. Here's some more screenshots if you'd rather look at them longer than shown in my video. Anyway I hope you like it! I'm honestly not sure how many more LG themes I'm going to make. It seems with LG discontinuing their mobile division that interest in themes has died down quite a bit.

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Man I'm greedy eh? Taking the entire first page!!!

But I'm probably going to need it!

Wow aren't we a quiet bunch in here. Anyway Check this out

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Hi , how can i get only the system stock original icons ? I need them for an icon pack that im working.

lohigno said:
Hi , how can i get only the system stock original icons ? I need them for an icon pack that im working.
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Pull them from the system apps

delete

Really like this theme. One thing i would like to know is if you could update the brightness slider for android 11. Other than that excellent theme. Thanks for the LG support

Well this by far is the quietest LG themes thread I've ever had sadly. Anyway folks a couple of weeks ago I made another theme and I never announced it here. Anyway this is it here. Check it out. I hope you like it. I honestly don't know how much longer I'm going to continue making LG themes. I've been doing this for a very long time and interest is really dwindling now and I just don't know if I'm going to keep going for much longer.

Negan said:
Hey everyone! So after a bit of a break I'm back and I've brought along some new themes for everyone to enjoy! Some of you may remember me over the past few years from various LG devices. So what the purpose of this thread is, is to provide support, feedback and allow me to communicate, interact and discuss my themes with all members of xda. I know that a lot of people now are pivoting to telegram but honestly albeit convenient it's just not as good for people to find things. With this format other members can view the thread and see suggestions or issues that have been brought up or add their own. I much prefer it this way and with all of my other threads I've found XDA to be the best way to provide support and gather feedback from members all over the world. There are a few rules that must be abided by. First, the purpose of this thread is exactly what the title states; "Support, feedback & communication". It is not to generate sales/revenue and as such I request that no paid links be posted. I understand some people like to make life easier to those who can't find a link but I forbid this as does XDA rules. XDA rules (11) states that
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and to offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar / substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
So let's keep it that way. Next, I don't mind if you ask me about eta's. I know some people get quite fired up about that but it doesn't bother me. This doesn't mean that when you ask, that one magically shows up. My life has become much busier than it was in the past and I spend considerably more time creating themes than I did when I first was making them for the V20, G6, V30. After those devices it became possible to theme more elements and I also believe my abilities improved. So I really try to focus on attention to details. Next let's have some fun in here. After all this is supposed to be a fun hobby that we all share (customizing our devices). I absolutely love screenshots so if you want to post some of your home screen setup while using my themes, by all means show off your creativity. Lastly be kind and courteous to each other. If you've read this far I thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing your input and feedback. Update info:
In closing some of you may ask about (insert theme name) that you used to use on your old (insert name) device. Some of these themes are anywhere from 2-4 years old and honestly they likely won't be. After about a year or two I normally stop updating a theme. Some themes in all honesty don't require updates. More on that in a bit. But here's the thing. LG has an interesting way of doing things. So for example let's say you used pixel experience on your G7 of V40 and you liked using it. Sure I could technically update it to work on the V60. But by doing so it would cause it to stop working on the G7 or V40. That is simply not fair to do to those who have not changed their devices. I've tried to make it work in the past and it always causes more harm than good so for that reason I generally avoid that. Back to update frequency. As I was saying, not all themes will require frequent updates. A theme sometimes reaches a point where it is pretty much bug free and eventually it runs it course and I don't just update for the sake of updating. An update serves a purpose of either improving of correcting something and sometimes less is more.
Now for my first theme which has an optional add-on system icon pack:
E for Extinction
Screenshots
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Nice