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Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
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brazilian812 said:
Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
Thanks!
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Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
surf1 said:
Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
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Dang. There might be a setting for S Voice to turn on Hotword Detection maybe?
Even if only S Voice works, there are apps to replace it with Google Now which would be fine by me!
From what I can tell from messing around with the S5, the "OK Google" hotword only works when you have the Google search bar on your homescreen. You take that bar off and it stops working. Other than that, I haven't been able to find any setting to enable it while the screen is off or without the google bar, unfortunately.
According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
miketunes said:
According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
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Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
brazilian812 said:
Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
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Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
miketunes said:
Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
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Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
gjlamb said:
Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
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I have the AT&T varianT and no luck unless I'm inside the s voice app (having double clicked the get in)
So from what i can tell phones using DSP chips will be able to use ok google now from stock android. Our Moto X's do use that for the Motorola assist features. Does this mean that android lollipop could help go around moto assist? I don't like the delays that Moto assist comes with, and getting to use Google now through stock would be amazing. They only mention that Nexus 6 and 9, will be able to use it, but i don't see why our phone wouldn't be able to.
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
raze599 said:
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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Yes, assist can be disabled. The problem is because assist and the files for it are installed, it disables one from saying "ok, google" and letting google now take over. Assist needs to be on if you want to do voice related things. Unless I'm missing something, I haven't found a way to allow google now voice commands to work with assist on or off
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If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
MaKTaiL said:
If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
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ZeroAlphawolf said:
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
sent from my Nexus 7
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I know that on the 2013 X this did not work. There is an internal, hidden config flag in Google Search that lists the devices on which hotword detection is permanently disabled -- meaning that nothing you did to to moto touchless controls would help.
That being said, there is an app out there, UnleashTheGoogle, that will un-hide all of the hidden settings in Google Search and then you can just remove your phone from the blacklist (if the '14 X is in there)
So after the recent Moto Voice update, i can't get the Google Now hot word Detection to work at all. Going into Google Settings to try to train it to listen to me, it won't activate the mic at all to listen to me, completely refuses too. Plus, to top it off, Moto Voice now says "Opening Google" Whenever it is too retarded to be able to do what i want it to with my voice, which is ridiculous. I Force closed Moto Voice, and the google now search bar had the mic showing that it was ready for voice. (The filled in one.) but did not respond to Ok Google, and by the time i went to train it, Moto Voice had restarted. I might try freezing Moto Voice with Titanium and seeing if i can get google now to work then. All in all, this is disappointing as it stands.
Ok! So Freezing the Moto Voice app did it for me. (That or yelling ok google at my phone for 5-10 minutes in the training voice part of Google Now Voice Settings.) Regardless i can activate Ok Google again from any screen. Though, my Google Now Settings includes the check box for google searching from the Lock Screen, it doesn't seem to work. That might come with Lollipop proper... -crosses fingers.
Edit: It will allow it to Google Search from lockscreen , But not with sound off... that is the feature that might come with Lollipop.
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
Tykin said:
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
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it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
cortez.i said:
it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
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That will disable the voice wake. I'm looking for a way to jump straight into Google Now anytime I say my Moto Voice launch phrase.
OK, yeah that's different. Interpreted that you wanted to just go to Google Now. With my suggestion, saying "OK Google" takes you to Google Now (vs your moto launch phase).
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Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
ZeroAlphawolf said:
Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
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can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
cortez.i said:
can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
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Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
ZeroAlphawolf said:
Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
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Thanks! Now I need to figure out if I want to root my phone now or wait for L and Xposed to run on ART.
Lollipop is supposed to be able to do ok google from screen off with phones using the always listening chips. The nexus 6 and 9 are supposed to use it with theirs. I'm still hoping that our moto's well be able to use it as part of stock android so i don't have to use moto voice at all. Only i don't know if they intend to add custom phrase support, which i could stand losing. Though i concur about ART xposed, that i can't wait for.
I've used S Voice and Google for 4 days each and in my opinion S Voice is the clear winner. Here's my top 5:
1) S Voice has very reliable always-on service whereas Google occasionally will glitch and stop responding to the wake up command until I reboot the Note 4.
2) S Voice accepts way more commands.
3) S Voice can perform functions and execute them instead of just bringing you to them. For example if you say "wake me up at 6:30AM" it will set the alarm for you, whereas Google brings up the page and you have to click "set alarm."
4) S Voice has a funny AI. You can say "Will you marry me?" and it will reply with "I would make a terrible spouse" or say "yeah baby" and it will respond with "I'm not your baby." Funny stuff.
5) S Voice has more secure always-on service because it allows you to pick the wake command so you can make your command,"I like pie" and it will work, whereas Google currently only supports "OK Google" which everyone knows from the commercials, and if you want to set it to work even if your phone is locked, you want a wake command that people are less likely to know.
What have your experiences been thus far?
To be honest I haven't given S Voice a try yet. I was surprises than Google Now works because in Poland it had very little support, but now it let me set an alarm and everything, nice. But I can't set Google Now to wake the phone - for some reason the option for it is turned off, maybe S Voice will work like that.
The new pop-up window is nice too, any app will stay open and S-Voice just pops up and closes down. Makes more sense than opening up a whole new page. Quite accurate understanding English as well.
Oh, nice. Does it affect battery?
Nice to know they improved s voice. It used to be inferior to google voice on the note 3. I might give it a try again.
Rippley05 said:
Oh, nice. Does it affect battery?
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Nope. I had S Voice a and Google Now always listening and had no noticable effect on battery life. I didn't really use'em but it did come handy at one or two occasions. I think it's efficient operation comes down to that extra chip both the SD805 and I think the Exynos variant has.
I love the S-voice and wanna use it all the time but I wish I can pull up the S-voice anytime with voice. I know it's easy double tapping the home button but Google can be pulled up anywhere with voice.
FuzzRaven said:
I love the S-voice and wanna use it all the time but I wish I can pull up the S-voice anytime with voice. I know it's easy double tapping the home button but Google can be pulled up anywhere with voice.
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So can s-voice. It's in the settings. You can also turn on voice wake while locked.
For voice to wake. In my experience, it only halfway works to. Maybe it's because I use a custom command...but voice rarely wake it up.
Rippley05 said:
So can s-voice. It's in the settings. You can also turn on voice wake while locked.
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Maybe I'm missing it but the only option I can find is waking it up with voice while locked (voice wake-up option) nothing for when the screen is on, even on the home screen. The only way to pull it up is by double tapping home button.
FuzzRaven said:
Maybe I'm missing it but the only option I can find is waking it up with voice while locked (voice wake-up option) nothing for when the screen is on, even on the home screen. The only way to pull it up is by double tapping home button.
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Huh? Look at that picture I posted. Check that option, then say "hi galaxy" or whatever you set your command to be and it'll wake up. It doesn't work all that well when you use a custom command.
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Thanks for posting those photos and instructions! But I already have both enabled even before I came to this post and it still would NOT take voice commands when you have the screen on, as in not on the lockscreen (or as I found out, also when you're using any app) but when you're in the home screen. Both those options are only for use when you're on the lockscreen or when the phone is sleeping. Now that I think about it, maybe it's because of my use of Nova Prime that's hindering the S-Voice to be invoked on the main home screen though...
The thing that i don't like is even though svoice turns on when i say hi galaxy, i still have to push the mic button to say my command. Google voice doesnt so that
Patch7 said:
The thing that i don't like is even though svoice turns on when i say hi galaxy, i still have to push the mic button to say my command. Google voice doesnt so that
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You don't need to push the mic button to issue your command. If you ran out of time to say your command, all you have to do is to say your wake up phrase again and it should accept your voice command then.
FuzzRaven said:
You don't need to push the mic button to issue your command. If you ran out of time to say your command, all you have to do is to say your wake up phrase again and it should accept your voice command then.
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Thanks! That works great. Love it!!
I use svoice for making calls through by bluetooth headset. It works much much much better than google voice. Google voice is no more than a joke when you have non-english names, whereas svoice still does a great job. Another thing I love with SVoice is that it also utilizes the nicknames in your adress book. So you can use either the full name or the nickname.
This is very interesting. I must admit I completely ignored S-Voice when I bought the Note 4, as it wasn't brilliant on the Note 3. I also had got so used to Google's voice functions which did impress.
I just caught this thread and whoa! Samsung really have made some great changes to S-Voice on the Note 4 and I think I might actually start using it a bit more. So thanks for posting your observations
Samsung S-Voice command examples
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I took the trouble to type out all the available S-Voice examples, along with a few added examples for UK or International users. I hope you find it useful.
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I took the trouble to type out all the available S-Voice examples, along with a few added examples for UK or International users. I hope you find it useful.
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Awesome stuff! Thanks man. This confirms my suspicions that you cannot use s-voice to switch on mobile hotspot
Is there a way to get this feature working like it does on the Nex6?
Currently (with all the Moto crap disabled) I can only get this functionality while plugged in.
Did they kill the feature in the lollipop build so we'd be forced to use their junkie Moto Voice hand-off system?
The.Yield said:
Is there a way to get this feature working like it does on the Nex6?
Currently (with all the Moto crap disabled) I can only get this functionality while plugged in.
Did they kill the feature in the lollipop build so we'd be forced to use their junkie Moto Voice hand-off system?
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I can't speak for the specific version of Google Search that you have, but for versions on the '13 X, they have hotword detection completely disabled.
It turns out there is an internal flag to blacklist devices from turning on the option. I think more recently the version on the 13 allows hotword but does not allow the "from any screen" nor "while screen is off" options.
You used to be able to edit the flags with "unleash the google" But I don't know of this still works and it no longer maps all the settings to their names (meaning you just see config 1 config 2,etc)
OK Google works from any screen and while device off.
Make sure OK Google Detection is turned ON for any screen and off.
You prefer Google voice search over Moto Voice? Why?
martinezma99 said:
OK Google works from any screen and while device off.
Make sure OK Google Detection is turned ON for any screen and off.
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Do you have a link to a source/video showing that this works on the Moto X 2014?
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You prefer Google voice search over Moto Voice? Why?
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Because the response is much faster without the Moto middleware. I'm pissed that they disabled it. Why shouldn't I have a choice???
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Because the response is much faster without the Moto middleware. I'm pissed that they disabled it. Why shouldn't I have a choice???
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I feel exactly the same way. Exactly.
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