XT890 - Caught the Frame, Screen went a funny colour now black - RAZR i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

HI.
I've unfortunately caught my XT890's screen with what was probably a set a of keys and have pushed the frame away from the glass at the Sim and SD card slot so that there is approx. a 4 mm gap between the glass and the frame ( the sealant is visible).
The phone's screen continued to work perfectly for about a day until I pushed the frame back into place and appear to have done some damage as the screen slowly stopped working - I had a section of black that appeared at the top of the screen and slowly crept down the screen, which went purple first then black , creeping down the sides of the screen first, then filling in the middle until the full screen is black. I think I've also lost the digitizer input, as I can no longer turn the 6am alarm off on it.. and I can't take out the battery either :S
I've "rebend" the frame to the original damage, but this has had no impact in reverting the screen to "usable".
The glass looks complete - no cracks or anything, so I'm really not sure if replacing the glass screen and digitizer pre-build as a "frame" will fix the problem, or not. At ~£30 for the part on a phone worth ~£70, I'd like to understand if its' worth the risk or just to buy a replacement outright.
Has anyone had similar experience with this?

lol, never seen that before. Looks like the liquid inside the screen slowly dropped out and damaged some internal parts. This will certainly needs replacements. But unless u can do it your self i would consider buying a new one.
How did u bend your phone sides on the first place? (i never tried it, but it seems very sturdy)

I have absolutely no idea how I managed this - I was up a ladder at the time and must of inadvertently put a leatherman or keys in the same pocket as the phone and then "trapped" it so that it pushed sideways on exactly the weak spot of the simcard slot. I'll upload a picture of the damage for prosperity.
I didn't think AMOLED had liquid in them, but that would correlate with the affect I had - it must of been a tiny, tiny hole :S.
Such as shame after 2 years of perfect operation - and I had hoped for another year instead of procuring a new phone as it did the job so well.
Yep, I'm happy to replace it myself, I've done 4 or 5 screens on a Defy before, and this looks simpler.

PS - it looked very similar to the pictures in this, so that's positive in some ways!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456966

I cracked my screen and bought a new with digitizer. was very easy to replace just follow the youtube video about disassemble razr i.
You will also need some glue though for the stupidly placed motorola logo..
i bought mine from ebay for less than 20 euro. but it has some wierd greenish color in the top where the statusbar is. its not visible when holding the phone vertical. but when holding horizontel its alittle noticeable. not a problem at all but just be carefull going for the cheap ones.

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[Q] Cracked digitizer vs Led - how to tell?

My son dropped my n1 and I heard that nasty sound...
Started as a small crack in top corner with a white strip extending down the side of the screen. Other cracks are visible and the screen got progressively purple around the cracks and is now almost dark. I cannot feel any cracks and the touchscreen works fine.
I don't want to take it apart before ordering the parts since it is still usable. Any way to tell which part is cracked? I've read the digitizer is plastic?
Thanks in advance for any insights.
Mine cracked a while ago, 18 months probably. I've never had any problem with the screen. If touch still works, just ignore it.
The digitizer is the screen and touch electronics built into one part. If you have a crack, you'd need to replace the digitizer (which again, is the screen).
Keep in mind it would take hours to replace. You also run the risk of other things not working correctly once you put everything back together. I've replaced the digitizer in an original Droid. Everything went [relatively] well. But it took several hours, and certain [fancy] stickers were not able to be replaced. Meaning, it looked like it had been disassembled.
You broke the amoled underneath the digitizer I'm sure of it. I know because I did the same thing last year (13 months ago actually) and I could see a small crack in the amoled (digitizer was still intact) the screen went purple then blue the next day then went totally black within a week. Although it might have been a worse crack on mine.
BTW: the digitizer on the nexus one is not plastic it's gorilla glass.
touchscreen works fine? then its probably not the digitizer
the crack itself might be the digitizer rather than the display but the way youre describing it, the ink of the screen is running? well, tough luck..
it might just be better to buy a new phone (or a cheap used n1)
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touchscreen works fine? then its probably not the digitizer
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Actually you can crack the digitizer (spiderwebs and all) and it will still work like new the only thing is you will be looking around the cracks to see the picture.
The N1 does not have gorilla glass, but it does have a hardended glass (gorilla is just a brand name for a type of treated glass).
And if you are getting discoloring, it is definitely the AMOLED or SLCD screen (depending on your phone). The digitizer is the actual touchscreen part. It can still function with the cracks, but you can usually feel that they are there. Both are replaceable, although, it isn't the easiest thing to do. I know HTC will replace the AMOLED screen for around $110 and they offer the advanced exchange program with it. I would assume similar prices for the digitizer (although, the definitely isn't your problem, unless both are cracked).

Replacing the screen of my Z1 (C6903) suggestion wanted

Hi everyone!
Today i visited the sony care point to discover that my phone isn't covered by warranty anymore, due to fact the internal LCD had a crack (despite never dropped in recent times).
Anyway, no worries... my warranty will end in a couple of days.
So... I want to attempt to fix it myself. I'm not experienced, but I work all day mounting PCs and servers, i think this will be a little diffent but not too hard, right?
Can anyone suggest me how and where to buy the entire frame and the LCD of the phone? (I want to keep it waterproof)
I saw many websites, but I don't trust most of them, so a good reccomendation is really useful here.
Also, what set of tools is reccomended to do everything? (Can i use my hair dryer to unglue the screen?)
Many thanks and sorry for my english being so bad, is not my native language.
I'm not sure how to replace the screen on the Z1, but I'd warn you against relying on its waterproofing after replacing the screen. Unless you can perfectly fit the rubber seal so there's literally no gap, the water will enter your phone.
It can be waterproof but don't buy cheap replacement as they are not always properly glued tohether, if at all. Buy original lcd+digitizer+frame assembly and precut glue frames like this. Hair dryer should be enough.
I cracked my screen yesterday
Today i get it from the technician (not original sony, in my country is inexistent). So far so good, only i found one problem (waterproof lost of course) the WIFI signal power is down by -20dB. So, now i have problems connecting to distants wifi.
EDIT: Now wifi working normal again, just another trip to the technician
Also, my phone is black front & withe back now.
luchoz said:
I cracked my screen yesterday
Today i get it from the tecnician (not original sony, in my country is inexistent). So far so good, only i found one problem (waterproof lost of course) the WIFI signal power is down by -20dB. So, now i have problems connecting to distants wifi.
Also, my phone is black front & withe back now.
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Black front and white back sounds pretty sweet. The black back cover attracts too many fingerprints imo
D33KK said:
Black front and white back sounds pretty sweet. The black back cover attracts too many fingerprints imo
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Some pics http://imgur.com/a/lAXC7
luchoz said:
Some pics http://imgur.com/a/lAXC7
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Nice pics, I'm gonna replace my back cover with the white one now.
I got my water damaged lcd replaced with a Chinese 1st copy and it's working great, however my phone lost its waterproofing as back cover is having problem to be glued properly again
Sent from my C6903 using XDA Forums Pro.
yea i replaced my screen and i think it messes with my sensors, im not entirely sure im still doing some analysis but like after some time (about 2 hours or so) my gyro, light and proximity sensors stop working until reboot.
one more thing. theres layers of stuff inside of the z1, its a bit complicated, even for me and i am a computer & phone tec. its all about the glue and remembering where they go. i didnt really do mine correctly so i lost my waterproofing. gluing it 100% like stock is very hard.
ans ps
DONT USE A HAIR DRYER!!!
it wont get hot enough to separate the screen (broke a galaxy s3 back in the day doing that) use a heat gun

Great, cracked the screen of my Z3 Compact

This morning I was cleaning my phone (getting rid of the finger prints/smudges) while standing up when it slipped out of my hand and hit the tiled floor. Everything is fine except the screen (which is cracked). Screen works fine but is unresponsive no matter where I press or touch the screen. How much does a Z3 Compact replacement screen cost? I searched around and it seems it is about $100?
Screen replacement costs in Poland +/- 135$
(authorised sony service)
Yes' it's hard to get original one cheaper than 100-120$. You can search for some Chinese replacement cause sometimes it looks quite similar to original one but You must check it before buying. Last time I had a client with Z1c replacement screen which he bought for 40$ and there was no white color, everything what should be white was purple.
Voids warranty, cheap replacement
Got mine from here replacebase dot co dot uk (can not post links ), of course you void your warranty if you do it yourself.
Parts are good quality till now. I advice to order a back glass too, I broke mine when taking it out and had to reorder again (costs approx 6 pound).
Next time just heat up back glass with hair dryer and You wont break it.
Chamelleon said:
Next time just heat up back glass with hair dryer and You wont break it.
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Thanks for the input
The problem was a small crack which did not matter until you have to remove it, you can not pull on it when its cracked. Anyway I will use a hair dryer to put it back together (assemble, heat up, press with books).
Thanks for the replies.
I'll be getting the repair done from the official Sony shop/distributor I bought the phone from. Just wanted to get an idea of how much it "should" cost before I approach them.
m4mbax said:
Thanks for the input
The problem was a small crack which did not matter until you have to remove it, you can not pull on it when its cracked. Anyway I will use a hair dryer to put it back together (assemble, heat up, press with books).
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Hello
I have tried to change my backglass 3 times but after a few hours the glass falls off... (Yes, I cleaned the phone removing all the old adhesive - and yes, I had pressure on it over night ) But all the instructions I have found on the internet never mentioned anything about putting the glass on, and HEATING it up, and the putting pressure on it... Where have you found that advice? You could imagine that heating up would ruin the adhesive/making it thinner and thereby not waterproof...? But on the other hand your succesrate probably beats mine...
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Hello
I have tried to change my backglass 3 times but after a few hours the glass falls off... (Yes, I cleaned the phone removing all the old adhesive - and yes, I had pressure on it over night ) But all the instructions I have found on the internet never mentioned anything about putting the glass on, and HEATING it up, and the putting pressure on it... Where have you found that advice? You could imagine that heating up would ruin the adhesive/making it thinner and thereby not waterproof...? But on the other hand your succesrate probably beats mine...
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I think it was a comment below the iFixit tutorial. But one big warning here, I did extra maximally stupid and put it to 'press' under my table (with books around it). The table was too heavy and cracked my front screen once again :crying:
+ The rear glass sits fixed and has not loosened.
- Don't put too much pressure or you destroy it yet again like stupid me
m4mbax said:
I think it was a comment below the iFixit tutorial. But one big warning here, I did extra maximally stupid and put it to 'press' under my table (with books around it). The table was too heavy and cracked my front screen once again :crying:
+ The rear glass sits fixed and has not loosened.
- Don't put too much pressure or you destroy it yet again like stupid me
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Doh!!! ? I have also read on Ifixit and can see there are different opinions about if it is nessesary to heat or not. But I think I will follow your advice and heat the new back before putting it under (less pressure) ?.
Another thing I read on Ifixit is that someone writes that you should put on an adhesive sticker - eventhough the new back comes with adhesive already on...? What is your advice on this?
Most pre-glued adhesive stickers on back are useless. Now everytime I change back in Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3 and compacts I need to remove pre-glued sticker and change it to original one. Many times I had complaint on it from my clients saying that back glass came off. So it's better to order original back glass or just original adhesive.
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Doh!!! I have also read on Ifixit and can see there are different opinions about if it is nessesary to heat or not. But I think I will follow your advice and heat the new back before putting it under (less pressure) .
Another thing I read on Ifixit is that someone writes that you should put on an adhesive sticker - eventhough the new back comes with adhesive already on...? What is your advice on this?
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Good
Mine came with the adhesive ON the screen, I used that one, I didn't have a separate one. Be extra careful when 'placing' the adhesive where it belongs because you can not remove it once place (okay maybe slightly). Its important that it fits on the first to first and a half try. More adhesive means thicker layer --> glass will stick out
Anyway, most of the stories you read online are partially BS, the phone will work even when the glass is a tiny bit loose or when the adhesive rotated and is a bit thicker in one place. In my eyes, when you dared to order, you are very much capable of assemble the parts.
In btw, ordered new glasses today, hope my two left hands fix it this time.
PS: A lesson I learned on a friends Galaxy S2, do NEVER EVER try to use force when something sticks or is not as loose as in a video. Google or ask another person maybe you just dont do the trick. A connector didnt want to come off so we used a lever to lift it, CLICK, the place where the lever levered broke the board... :silly:
Edit 1: I think its not necessary to HEAT it, it just has to be a lil bit warmer than in your pocket or when calculating heavily. 30s under a hairdryer will be more than enough i guess.
Forgot to update this thread. I received my fixed phone last week. They replaced the screen and even the "bumpers" around the phone for $98. They even delivered the phone to my home free of charge. Looks brand new, all the minor dings I had on the phone are gone.
On another note, I also bought my first iPhone. Got an Space Gray iPhone 6s 128 GB with the official/Apple leather case for the 6s. Got it last Thursday. Been playing around with it a lot and, overall, I love it. Deciding on whether to keep my Z3 Compact as a back-up phone or just sell it. But geez, does the iPhone 6s load games and other apps fast (thanks to its NVMe storage).

My Z3 compact screen is falling out

So I like just about everything about the Sony Z compact line of phones but durability wise I have been unlucky. My first Z3 compact died from water damage and my 2nd one has a screen that is ready to fall off the device.
I choose to buy a HTC U11 to replace my Z3 compact as I have never owned a HTC phone before and thought I would try something different.
What I would like to ask here though is it worth trying to fix the Z3 compact to sell or not?
The only way to protect this phone:
The phone bends 0.1mm causes the phone screen to start opening. So it's not suitable for jeans pockets.
I remedied this by using an anodized aluminium bumper and tempered glass both sides.
Sony does a very bad repair of it's phones, and the issues will return, and their parts are expensive.
It is better to do it yourself and use B7000 glue, use plenty, easily removable for future repairs, no heat, clothes pegs, wait 48 hours before removing pegs or turning on the phone. And look for the best grade of screen with frame, Sony uses two manufacturers for its screens.
My Z3C has a screen that is lifting. This thread and others seem to indicate that fixing the screen is not hard but hardware is not my thing at all...
Would a phone repair place (in a shopping centre) be able to do this kind of repair? Is the phone much different to other phones that people would take in for screen replacements?
I don't care about the loss of waterproofing. The screen isn't even falling out, just lifted in the corner. I don't want to send the phone anywhere and be without it, or have it come back changed in unexpected ways...
a1291762 said:
My Z3C has a screen that is lifting. This thread and others seem to indicate that fixing the screen is not hard but hardware is not my thing at all...
Would a phone repair place (in a shopping centre) be able to do this kind of repair? Is the phone much different to other phones that people would take in for screen replacements?
I don't care about the loss of waterproofing. The screen isn't even falling out, just lifted in the corner. I don't want to send the phone anywhere and be without it, or have it come back changed in unexpected ways...
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Phone shops including Sony themselves have difficulty in repairing this particular phone, I think any phone shop can do this repair, but, they must use the B7000 glue or similar, or silicone, and not the red tape they usually use, it's useless, as this phone can heat up, or the blue z3c ready cut tape is not so good either. And if you get the wrong screen (clone), the colours will not be as good.
Many phone repairers have the clone screens that are thicker than the original.
The screen sometimes is actually bent, along with the body, check on a flat surface.
Always buy a good screen together attached with the body, and never by itself.
So armed with this knowledge and or hardware, you could go talk with a phone repairer... The first 3 times, shop, but maybe the fourth repair, try doing it yourself, it's as easy as opening a PC, just smaller, just follow z3c repair guides and youtube, when you're ready. When attempting to repair the phone, for the very first time, do it over hours, maybe over the weekend, and not one sitting.
If you start loosing patience, leave it for a while etc.
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I got so comfortable with opening my phone, I put extra 0.3mm copper plates on the processor and gpu with Cooler Master Extreme Fusion paste etc. Lol.
But it's good to have an already damaged motherboard to work on.
Z3C LOS Omni Oreo
My screen is still working fine. Just lifting.
I do have some old phones I could practice on, assuming they have the same glass sandwich construction.
I will go look for some videos...
a1291762 said:
My screen is still working fine. Just lifting.
I do have some old phones I could practice on, assuming they have the same glass sandwich construction.
I will go look for some videos...
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Z3C LOS Omni Oreo
I put up with my screen for a long time but eventually the glue gave out and I had no choice. It was good, then bad, but ultimately ok.
I didn't have any trouble taking the glass off the first time because the glue was barely hanging on. I had a look and noticed that the headphone jack's glue was also failing. Probably why it was becoming unreliable. I glued that and reseated the screen cable and it worked fine while sitting there so I glued everything on again.
It was a poor first attempt. I had both too much glue (blobs that leaked out) and not enough to actually seal around much of the screen. No problem. I took the glass off again and glued it again. This time I followed the instructions closer and glued the front screen before connecting the ribbon.
The second gluing was good but something with the ribbon was wrong because it only worked when I pressed on the lower part of the screen. Sigh.
Taking the glass off after a good glue was much harder. I finally got the spudger under the glass but I moved it sideways before removing the suction thing. It was too much pressure for the glass. The good news is that it was the rear glass and only the bottom half shattered. I got the rest off and started on the front.
Now that I knew to be more careful, I got the front off OK. Reseat. Test and working. I glued the front on first again, without disconnecting the cable. Tested and working. I glued the half back I had on (covers the camera).
Its working!
I use a case so the back isn't even a problem, but I ordered a new back from China (cheap). The headphone Jack seems better. I put a new screen protector on. In some ways the phone is rejuvenated.
I was apparently not careful enough when taking off the screen though. I appear to have some marks on my screen now. It's minor, probably won't notice during normal use, but there if you look.
I'm so glad to have my phone back. I've been using an iPhone for the last 3 weeks.
Thanks for the tips.
Edit: The hands free speaker works again too. Bonus

Dead Pixel?

So I have noticed a "black" dot near the right edge about halfway down on my screen. I can feel what may be a scratch but definitely not a deep one. When I first saw it, I had a screen protector on it and thought a piece of dirt had gotten in between the screen protector and the screen but after I took it off I noticed this dot. Anyone had this problem. I would like to think Samsung would help me but my back glass has spider cracked and I'm not sure if they would still honor this. Anyways here's a few pictures, tell me what you think.
It is not ONE dead pixel, it is a group of pixels, most likely due to an impact, only fix would be screen replacement, sorry
Stunna4life888 said:
So I have noticed a "black" dot near the right edge about halfway down on my screen. I can feel what may be a scratch but definitely not a deep one. When I first saw it, I had a screen protector on it and thought a piece of dirt had gotten in between the screen protector and the screen but after I took it off I noticed this dot. Anyone had this problem. I would like to think Samsung would help me but my back glass has spider cracked and I'm not sure if they would still honor this. Anyways here's a few pictures, tell me what you think.
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I had one little dead pixel, samsung replaced whole screen and battery
Well, that 'scratch' that was made is basically a drop to your phone.
Whatever it is that the phone fell on managed to poke into the OLED screen, probably missing the digitizer by a little, damaging that cluster (the shape and shading of that makes this make sense)

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