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[Q] Thinking about getting Moto X

I currently have a Nexus 5 and compared to a friends Moto X my screen isn't nearly as nice and the speaker is horrendous. I'm thinking about reactivating my Verizon unlimited data account and using a developer edition Moto X on it but I have some questions.
1. Who updates the Dev. Edition Moto X, Verizon or Motorola?
2. Will my Google Wallet app work like it does now with my Nexus 5 and allow NFC purchases at "Tap to Pay" stores or does verizon block that even on dev phones?
3. A bit off forum but if I use Google Voice texting, can I delete my $30 texting package on Verizon? I heard GV texting uses data only.
Thanks guys n gals!

1. Verizon
2. Yes, works on non-dev phones too
3. Sure, why not?

If you don't install custom roms, don't mind the slightly lower quality camera, and willing to sacrifice some performance especially in 3D gaming, then the Moto X may work for you. I think if you get the Moto X be intended to use stock firmware because it isn't as flexible as Nexus. The Moto X will have better battery life than the Nexus, I usually get 5 hours screen on time.
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While I continue to say that my, wife's now, Moto x is the superior phone overall....especially for those that just want a great working phone....and aren't flashaholics......I must say, I was fearful of the battery life drop switching to the N5....but after some usual tweaking.....I'm allllllmost matching my Moto x battery times. 26 hour average with 6 hour screen time. I was surprised for sure after things I read.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

I traded my N5 for a Moto X.
I like the AMOLED of the X more, the speaker and even the vibration. Touchless controls is nice, but the real killer feature is ActiveNotificatons. It's more than fast enough.
I recommend a trade

nhizzat said:
1. Verizon
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Sorry that killed it right there. Thanks for the replies!

ohiojosh78 said:
Sorry that killed it right there. Thanks for the replies!
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Actually Verizon was quick to release the 4.4.2 update right after T-Mobile so that was quick. On the other hand we on at&t are still waiting on the 4.4.2 update with some people that got invites for soak tests but yet to receive them yet.
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[Q] Moto X or Droid Turbo

Hey all,
So I'm due for a phone. Currently using the HTC DNA on Verizon.
I was all about the Moto X(2014) until I heard about the Droid Turbo, which looks pretty sweet.
These are my concerns:
Moto X will probably have a larger Dev community, as the turbo is a Verizon exclusive.
The Turbo will probably have a lot more bloat than the Moto X.
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
Does the higher resolution screen, extra gig of ram and faster processor worth it?
What are your suggestions?
Thanks

rjd584 said:
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
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There will be no difference on bloat. The turbo may have extra droid stuff (like circle widgets and that zap thing) but moto X on vzw still comes with vzw bloat (this is based on my 2013 X having vzw bloat)

The new X has 8 Verizon apps. I have disabled 5 of them. Verizon Voicemail can not be disabled. I use the hotspot app and the Verizon mobile app to check data usage.

I'd add another phone into the mix, supposed rumors detail the Nexus 6 is coming to Verizon.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/10/02/verizon-nexus-6

rjd584 said:
Hey all,
So I'm due for a phone. Currently using the HTC DNA on Verizon.
I was all about the Moto X(2014) until I heard about the Droid Turbo, which looks pretty sweet.
These are my concerns:
Moto X will probably have a larger Dev community, as the turbo is a Verizon exclusive.
The Turbo will probably have a lot more bloat than the Moto X.
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
Does the higher resolution screen, extra gig of ram and faster processor worth it?
What are your suggestions?
Thanks
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If you are sticking with Verizon, then the Droid. better specs, better screen, better battery. But going back to carrier lock and carrier bloat is not something I am willing to do after leaving Sprint last year. I'll be activating an X or Nexus on either T-mo or Cricket soon. Can always walk away if I'm not happy.

I bet the screen brightness will push many to the Turbo. More juice to allow a brighter display. So it was with the X/Maxx dilemma.

FYI: The manual for the Turbo leaked.
http://gizmodo.com/leaked-droid-turbo-manual-shows-a-super-powered-motorol-1644058683

I went with the X because I don't like the droid branding or the fact that it has capacitive navigation buttons, like the galaxy phones still cling to.

The one benefit of capacitive is that they can't burn in at least. I got the new moto x and love it. Might still get the Note 4 instead though. I'd rather have a 16 mp camera on Samsung then a 21 with bad software. That's the only ring Motorola can't get to be great. Camera software.

Ah man, I'm on day 13 of moto x 2014 and now news of droid turbo leaks. Better battery, hopefully more storage and same software features. Thinking about returning moto x to wait for turbo.

Turbo has good specs, but looks like moto went back in time 5 years in the design department

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Turbo has good specs, but looks like moto went back in time 5 years in the design department
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Yeah, but I'll take specs over looks as long as it still feels good in the hand/pocket.
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Function over form:
Returning my moto x. I love it, but the entire package is way better on the turbo. It seems exactly like a 5 inch version of the nexus 6. I even set up an exchange for a different moto x yesterday and I contact moto today to get my money back.

Droid life is reporting that the battery code listed on the Turbo benchmark sheet relates to a 3,900mAh battery spotted in China.
Not too shabby.
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I ended up returning my moto x, hopefully these droid turbo rumors prove to be true.

Yeah, function over form, but who can feel performance difference over any flagship device out this month? I have an iPhone 6, moto x, M8 and they all perform the same. The only draw back I have is the camera on the x sucks, like really really bad and no good cases for the x. Otherwise, I like the near pure android experience of the x over sense and iOS. And the x just looks so much better than the other 2

The only reasoning I have to keep my moto x is that it's the pure edition so it will most certainly get updates quicker than the droid and it's rocking and unlocked bootloader

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The only reasoning I have to keep my moto x is that it's the pure edition so it will most certainly get updates quicker than the droid and it's rocking and unlocked bootloader
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Yes, the Turbo ill most assuredly have a locked bootloader, be almost impossible to Root, and probably never see anything past Android L.
But dear god, those specs.

Coronado is dead said:
Yes, the Turbo ill most assuredly have a locked bootloader, be almost impossible to Root, and probably never see anything past Android L.
But dear god, those specs.
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I'm just hoping that att version that went through the FCC is legit.

hopesrequiem said:
The one benefit of capacitive is that they can't burn in at least. I got the new moto x and love it. Might still get the Note 4 instead though. I'd rather have a 16 mp camera on Samsung then a 21 with bad software. That's the only ring Motorola can't get to be great. Camera software.
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Burn in? Lol. These aren't plasma TV screens.

Why did you get the moto x instead of the nexus 6 ?

The nexus 6 was just announced and it looks to be a beast. Why was the reason you pulled the trigger on the moto x instead of waiting for the nexus 6 ? My reason is I knew it was going to be expensive... Second off all 5.9 is too big. I understand the 805 chip is better, but the 801 is really not that far off ? Do you regret buying your moto x ? I would like to know every ones opinion

I went with Moto X because I wasn't sure whether the Nexus 6 was going to be 5.2" or 5.9". I figured that with the delivery and the return period that I could check out the Moto X and return it if the Nexus 6 was a 5.2" phone. I love everything about the Nexus 6, except the size. I'll be keeping the Moto X. 5.2" is almost too big, 5.9" as your only offering is just completely stupid imo. I understand that there are some people out there think that bigger is better, but I'm willing to bet that a majority aren't interested in a phone that large. Polls have shown this.

1) size - 5.9 is outside of my consideration
2) personalization - loving my teak back
Though I do wish moto would've added Qi charging to the X.

dia_naji said:
The nexus 6 was just announced and it looks to be a beast. Why was the reason you pulled the plug on the moto x instead of waiting for the nexus 6 ? My reason is I knew it was going to be expensive... Second off all 5.9 is too big. I understand the 805 chip is better, but the 801 is really not that far off ? Do you regret buying your moto x ? I would like to know every ones opinion
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I believe you meant pull the trigger. Pulling the plug implies taking somebody off life support to kill them.
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mattjacobson said:
1) size - 5.9 is outside of my consideration
2) personalization - loving my teak back
Though I do wish moto would've added Qi charging to the X.
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You just nailed it! If the new nexus was 5.2", it would be competing directly with the Moto X. You chose the option best for you, and for that, you are a good cat!

Size
Seriously, Motorola has 3 new devices. They only needed one.
Moto X design language and customization. Droid Turbo hardware including screen size and resolution, Nexus 6 pure android support and the 65 GB memory size availability. Put those elements of the phones together and the single device would be better than any one of the three.

Size, phablets are a blight on society :laugh: If the Nexus 6 were <5.2 I would've considered it, although it would be tough to give up my leather back
And the fact that, while Android L will add most of these, I find that the moto additions to stock android to be extremely value add.

Size is the true factor. In hind sight I would have likely gone with the turbo.
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Size and Bamboo!
Once I started reading that the Nexus would be designed based of the X, I figured why wait and also the bamboo back is just awesome.
You do lose quick Android updates, but to be honest, this thing stock is just as good as any phone I've ever used.
I've been spoiled by CM ever since I've had an Android device, but couldn't be happier with my choice to get the Moto X.

I went with the X for the size and close to stock Android feel. That nexus 6 is just too damn big.

5.9 too much, too expensive compared to the X, dont need all that battery, too much screen on QHD
The X is all i need, enough battery and moto maker.
And yes the 805 and the 801 are pretty much the same

I went with the Moto X since I needed a new phone. With today's announcement, I'm glad I bought it. The N6, being 5.96 inches in screen size is so darn big. The price is too high. For 64gb, I would be spending probably $700. I could get a financing plan through T-Mobile but still, that's expensive. Being a tech geek though, it's still tempting
The thing n6 has is the better camera sensor, imx214. Moto X has imx115 or whatever (older). N6 has OIS also. Also, the fact n6 has a 64gb option is good. Let's not forget lte band 12
I'll wait until 64bit chips and 4gb ram phones are out. QHD will probably be the standard next year
sent from my Moto X (2014)

As someone earlier said, the Nexus 6 is essentially a Moto X Note. You have multiple size options and price points, Motorola played this one well. Moto G, Moto X, Nexus 6
For us crackflashers/hackers/wannabe Developers it is a bummer since the Moto X is not unlockable and rootable (atleast not yet). However Motorola was smart not to make a phone that would compete directly with the one they just created....with better specs.

Verizon. Need I say more.
Sent from my Moto X 2nd Generation

GatorsUF said:
As someone earlier said, the Nexus 6 is essentially a Moto X Note. You have multiple size options and price points, Motorola played this one well. Moto G, Moto X, Nexus 6
For us crackflashers/hackers/wannabe Developers it is a bummer since the Moto X is not unlockable and rootable (atleast not yet). However Motorola was smart not to make a phone that would compete directly with the one they just created....with better specs.
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You could even say that theres the Moto X 2013 for someone looking for a cheaper, smaller and still very very good flagship phone.
So you have the Moto E & Moto G for budget/entry devices, the X 2013 for cheaper and smaller flagship, the X 2014 for the new flagship device and the Nexus 6 for a phablet
After all every Motorola phone its pretty much a Nexus device

For those who want woodback for their Nexus 6, ToastMade will eventually release a woodback for it, so no worry there.
I actually was looking forward to buying the Nexus 6 as backup device for my Moto X, to use as a tablet and backup phone. At $649 I would get it as my primary device, which I will not since it's too large, but not as a backup device. So I bought a used Nexus 7 for ablet instead.
For back up phone, I think I will just get the Sprint Moto X 2013 and GSM unlock it, or a Nexus 5.

6 inch screen is way too big. Super happy with my moto x and leather back and green accents. As everyone else said, I will miss the unlocked boot loader and all that but I can live without it. Stock moto x is a great phone.
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The design of the Moto X just really appeals to me more than the Nexus 6 did, from what I could tell of the many leaks and teasers. There's something wonderfully different about having a high-tech phone with a visibly wooden back. The Nexus 6 is just another plastic device. As soon as I found out the Nexus was going to be closer to phablet size I knew it wasn't for me. Moto X is a great size for me.

jzaslice said:
You do lose quick Android updates (...)
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No, you don't!

Previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy S 3 International, originally decided to wait to see what the next Nexus was all about.
Saw that it was a phone for whales, bought Moto X.
Speaking of which, whats this Pure edition stuff people keep mentioning about?

Nexus 6 or Moto X Pure?

What are your opinions regarding the Nexus 6 vs the Moto X Pure? Which do you think will be future proof? Does anyone know if either of these can do simultaneous talk and web browsing on Verizon?

I know nexus 6 on Verizon cannot surf web over lte and talk at the same time. Semi-obviously you can still talk and browse over WiFi.
Before Nexus 6, I tried moto x 2013 dev edition... And to be honest it paled in comparison to the community support of nexus 6. Not sure if it is the same on the newer pure models.... But on the dev edition you could not downgrade the got or boot portions, and very few unofficial updates were provided by community. People largely just ran stock with xposed, afraid to fastboot stuff for fear of bricks, and with little to no ROMs because no one wanted to loose the stock framework, and xposed does everything.
Was not a very good environment for tinkering and learning tbh. Nexus has many more possibilities.
MotoX wins for stock features though, nexus ambient display pales in comparison to the 2013 moto x.

scryan said:
I know nexus 6 on Verizon cannot surf web over lte and talk at the same time. Semi-obviously you can still talk and browse over WiFi.
Before Nexus 6, I tried moto x 2013 dev edition... And to be honest it paled in comparison to the community support of nexus 6. Not sure if it is the same on the newer pure models.... But on the dev edition you could not downgrade the got or boot portions, and very few unofficial updates were provided by community. People largely just ran stock with xposed, afraid to fastboot stuff for fear of bricks, and with little to no ROMs because no one wanted to loose the stock framework, and xposed does everything.
Was not a very good environment for tinkering and learning tbh. Nexus has many more possibilities.
MotoX wins for stock features though, nexus ambient display pales in comparison to the 2013 moto x.
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Nexus 6 can do simultaneous voice and data on Verizon if have VOLTE enabled. All new Motos on Verizon are the same.

VOLTE appears to lead to a lot of dropped calls if you live in or travel to areas with poor 4G support from what I've read. Is that correct? That is why I never enabled in when I had my S6. Does Google still release updates for the older devices such as the Nexus 5? Just wondering how Google is to older Nexus devices.

Never had a moto x phone but I believe this one does boil down to user choice more than specs. I'm going with the whale though
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I had a pure..after 4 replacements I went w the nexus and ill never look back
Sent from my Nexus 6

I would switch to the Moto X Pure Edition and probably will when it is released. I really like the Nexus 6 but the Moto X has one thing I really want: a microSD card slot.

phillybizzle said:
I had a pure..after 4 replacements I went w the nexus and ill never look back
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It was released a couple of days ago, you had 4 replacements in those days? Highly unlikely
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It was released a couple of days ago, you had 4 replacements in those days? Highly unlikely
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This new moto x isn't the first one labeled as the pure edition. Simmer down some

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Does Google still release updates for the older devices such as the Nexus 5? Just wondering how Google is to older Nexus devices.
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All Nexus phones down to Nexus 4 (2012) received updates to LMY48I (5.1.1). Nexus 5 got update to MPA44I (6.0). So, yes Google takes care of older devices.

So anybody have anymore thoughts on moving from a Nexus 6 to the new Motorola Moto X Pure 2015? I'm still thinking about it but I'm wondering which is better for customization with ROMs/rooting. If anyone has any thoughts on anything between the two phones, please share. Thanks guys.

Not sure how it is now.... But 2013 moto x dev edition you couldn't ever downgrade, meaning you couldn't ever try out an upgrade with out being stuck.
This, combined with everyone not wanting to loose stock features meant no one did anything but run xposed. I think its going to be hard to beat nexus if your main thing is customization.

I'll be selling my Nexus 6 and getting the new moto pure. Its a no brainer for me.
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I'll be selling my Nexus 6 and getting the new moto pure. Its a no brainer for me.
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What are you reasons for selling your Nexus 6 and getting the new moto? Have you heard about modding/customization at all? Thanks.

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What are you reasons for selling your Nexus 6 and getting the new moto? Have you heard about modding/customization at all? Thanks.
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I don't care much for modding/customization. Just root is fine with me so I can use adaway and my android tools.
SD card slot is a huge plus with me since I have so many photos/videos on my phone, I take an extreme amount of photos and I like having a lot of music for the gym.
I haven't tested it myself, but I do expect a better camera.
I myself prefer the natural colors of a LCD display than amoled.
Front facing speakers are pretty much the same which is a plus and the screen size isn't much different.
I love my nexus 6 don't get me wrong. But the moto pure better suits my needs than this phone. Processing power won't be much different or noticeable and I'm cool with that.
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Im hoping someone can find out if there will be any modding options for the new moto x. Anybody else, please chime in. Thanks.

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Im hoping someone can find out if there will be any modding options for the new moto x. Anybody else, please chime in. Thanks.
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What modding options exactly are you looking for? Custom ROMs? Unlocked bootloader will set you free
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
What modding options exactly are you looking for? Custom ROMs? Unlocked bootloader will set you free
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Yes, just wondering if custom ROMs will be available for the new moto x. I figured the bootloader would be unlocked. But just wondering if it's worth giving up my nexus 6 for. Thanks.

I was in the same situation a week ago Pure X vs N6, the new nexus arent all that appealing to me the Huawei is god ugly the N5X looks nice but with midrange specs (will pick one up if its on carrier subsidy though for the GF), if you dont need the SD Card, dont take an extreme amount of Pics, and don't mind AMOLED then the N6 is a very good buy right now, they're dropping in price you can get a 64 gb for 339 now, and 32gb under 300... The pure x starts at 399 for a 16gb model... any customizations you add will add to the cost...the newer SoC isnt worth the extra 200 or so if you dont need the SD Card and Camera.. The Pure X will have decent amount of dev since it can be unlocked (btw unlocking the BL on the Pure X voids warranty since its technically not a Dev edition) but nothing ever beats a Nexus in regards to developemt/custom roms etc.. I chose to save 200 dollars and came back to the Nexus 6.

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I was in the same situation a week ago Pure X vs N6, the new nexus arent all that appealing to me the Huawei is god ugly the N5X looks nice but with midrange specs (will pick one up if its on carrier subsidy though for the GF), if you dont need the SD Card, dont take an extreme amount of Pics, and don't mind AMOLED then the N6 is a very good buy right now, they're dropping in price you can get a 64 gb for 339 now, and 32gb under 300... The pure x starts at 399 for a 16gb model... any customizations you add will add to the cost...the newer SoC isnt worth the extra 200 or so if you dont need the SD Card and Camera.. The Pure X will have decent amount of dev since it can be unlocked (btw unlocking the BL on the Pure X voids warranty since its technically not a Dev edition) but nothing ever beats a Nexus in regards to developemt/custom roms etc.. I chose to save 200 dollars and came back to the Nexus 6.
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Great info, thank you!!!! I don't take alot of pics anyway and I think the AMOLED screen is a little better far as color, pure colors that is. And yes I got my Nexus 6 64 gb for $350 sent to me so I do like it. Just thought I might trade up but I'm definitely thinking about keeping the Nexus, just wanted to see someones thoughts on customization of the new moto x. Thanks again. Anybody else wants to share, please do.

Att moto x 2014 xt1097 just get a small update 23.16.9.en.US, is Marshmallow coming?

I just got this today, Marshmallow after this patch?

No, it should be 6.2 not 5

According to the motorola blog about marshmallow, the at&t model will NOT get marshmallow.
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I hate att hard

Dang, this phone is less than a year old. I ll be sticking to it for at least another year due to superior call quality.

Motorola also said that critical patches will still come to the carriers' versions but not marshmallow.
Verizon and at&t owners won't get updates.
Me instead of you don't take the update since a possible root exploit could come sometimes and taking the new update isn't that smart.

OrenGazala said:
Motorola also said that critical patches will still come to the carriers' versions but not marshmallow.
Verizon and at&t owners won't get updates.
Me instead of you don't take the update since a possible root exploit could come sometimes and taking the new update isn't that smart.
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I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.

wangminh12 said:
I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
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Possible idea, ul bootloader, install twrp. And flash the stock 6.0 rom, I took the 5.1 soak test dl and couldn't update ota, but the stock roms work great!

I hope an exploit is found soon - I'm sick of getting the software update message constantly.

wangminh12 said:
I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
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You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.

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You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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Well that was helpful..

KP0719 said:
You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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How is the call quality on 6s? I used a 5s before but it's not as good Moto X 2014 ( I'm not a native speaker so i can tell the difference )

wangminh12 said:
How is the call quality on 6s? I used a 5s before but it's not as good Moto X 2014 ( I'm not a native speaker so i can tell the difference )
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It has really good call quality and we're going to get volte soon so the call quality is going to be better as well. But this is a moto x thread so I'm not going to talk about the iPhone anymore. Anyone know any update on root for this device yet?