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[Q] T-MO (N900T) or Intl. (N9005) ? for use on AT&T

I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.

Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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You wont get LTE with the international version

barondebxl said:
You wont get LTE with the international version
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I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?

Jayster0966 said:
I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?
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Yes, check the 4G LTE bands

barondebxl said:
Yes, check the 4G LTE bands
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Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:

Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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TMO for me and working flawlessly.

Earthdog said:
TMO for me and working flawlessly.
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On my way to the T-MO store then. :fingers-crossed:
Just so I get this straight,
1. Purchase the N900T.
2. Purchase a $10 or $20 SIM card. (then insert it and use the phone) Required?
3. Bring it home and use the service on CellUnlocker.net
4. Wait for the unlock codes then ENJOY! (Change APN settings)
Optional;
Follow the rooting/recovery guides in the T-Mo thread.

If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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agent929 said:
If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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Jayster0966 said:
Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:
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Lol no worries. Just get the T-mobile version and you'll be just fine. I unlocked mine for cellunlocker.net ( well technically i havent unlocked it yet as i am waiting for my note 3 to be delivered but i got the unlock code ready to go).

I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?

GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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Thanks for the update on that. You did not have to put a T-Mo SIM first? I thought that was required for the region unlock issue?
How are the actual LTE speeds? Others have mentioned a drop in speeds due to AT&T not giving top priority to the T-Mo IMEI.
barondebxl said:
How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?
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+1 on this question. How is the signal strength as well compared to a true AT&T phone in the same area?

Galaxy Note 3 Active
I was in the T-Mo store today looking at the Note 3. Ready and willing to go ahead and pull the trigger, then the rep says they are all out of the white one. They will have more in by the end of the week. Then mentions, they do have some at another store about 5 miles away though. He looks at me looking all disappointed and says, have you heard the rumor about the N3 active? No, I said. He says, if you can wait to get a new phone you might want to read up as it looks like Samsung is going to be going ahead with the release very soon.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-and-galaxy-note-3-active-models-tipped-20131007/
Now so confused, I think I have to wait and see what developes.

mehdi_s82 said:
They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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That's compete crap. I can't believe they would do that to you. I was under the impression they had to if you bought it outright. Perhaps you'll have to get an unlock code elsewhere.
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Im confused
I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?

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I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?
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It's because their stock of N900T's have been blacklisted by US carriers. Meaning they were obtained from the gray market. T-Mobile and AT&T have a database of IMEI's that are blocked from their network.

N900T vs N900A
I was reading the thread and was wondering why folks would prefer to buy the N900T vs N900A (especially when they are planning to use if for AT&T and will be required to unlock immediately)? Is there hardware/software advantages for the N900T over the N900A?

I'll add my 2 cents on this. I had originally purchased the T-Mobile variant (N900T) of the Note 3. I loaded up a custom rom and it was perfect. Shortly after that, I noticed my LTE signal (not HSPA) would be very low (-110dbm) in areas where my AT&T branded phones would sit on -94dbm. I flashed back to stock and noticed the same thing. Overall, LTE reception on band 17 on the N900T was very poor. Its probably because the N900T isn't optimized to use Band 17. Using the device with T-Mobile service, I had no LTE issues.
Now using the N900A for AT&T and get great LTE reception.

A buddy of mine has also noticed the TMO Note3 gets a lower reception when compared to my ATT note3. We are both on ATT as well.
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Locked or Unlocked?

I live in Greece and as i saw in German media markt and saturn the price of nexus 6 in europe will be 569 and 649 for 32 and 64 versions. I have an uncle in the states and he can buy the phone from at&t or t-mobile cheaper and send it to me. Will the phone be unlocked? Would i be able to use it? If its locked, is there any way to unlock it so i can use it in Greece?
Thank you guys in advance

It's a Nexus, so yes it will be unlocked.
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HitNrun_ said:
I live in Greece and as i saw in German media markt and saturn the price of nexus 6 in europe will be 569 and 649 for 32 and 64 versions. I have an uncle in the states and he can buy the phone from at&t or t-mobile cheaper and send it to me. Will the phone be unlocked? Would i be able to use it? If its locked, is there any way to unlock it so i can use it in Greece?
Thank you guys in advance
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Be sure the north American version has the band's for your network...but yes it's unlocked but may not get lte...there are two model numbers one for north American Market and one for international

_MetalHead_ said:
It's a Nexus, so yes it will be unlocked.
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By "its a nexus" you mean that all the nexus phones are unlocked? Sprint, verizon, at&t, t-mobile etc? well this i didnt knew, i used to buy samsung devices (upgrading my note 3 with n6) and i was sure that they had to be unlocked if i wanted to use them.
Thank you very much tho
Be sure the north American version has the band's for your network...but yes it's unlocked but may not get lte...there are two model numbers one for north American Market and one for international
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So the international will be functional where ever i tell my uncle to buy it even Lte?!
Thank you too for the quick respond

Check both versions to make sure which Will work better on your network.

HitNrun_ said:
By "its a nexus" you mean that all the nexus phones are unlocked? Sprint, verizon, at&t, t-mobile etc? well this i didnt knew, i used to buy samsung devices (upgrading my note 3 with n6) and i was sure that they had to be unlocked if i wanted to use them.
Thank you very much tho
So the international will be functional where ever i tell my uncle to buy it even Lte?!
Thank you too for the quick respond
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Yeah, all Nexus phones purchased from Google are unlocked. I'm not sure what's going to happen with the carrier branded ones this time around though as this is the first time Google has marketed a Nexus as a premium device to compete with all the other flagships. I don't think ones bought from carriers will be locked, but that's just a guess. As long as it's purchased from the Play store, and as long as the bands are compatible, as nexus6R3plicant mentioned, then you'll have no issues getting it to work.

Nexus 6 radios questions

From my understanding that all nexus 6 are the same no matter what carrier you buy from or Google Play. I have Verizon. My question is.. If I buy from another carrier sprint or t-mobile and I just pop my sim in shouldn't Lte and everything else work? Or will the radio bands vary on different carriers?

I think it would be work.
So far T-Mobile confirm it that is not locked on network and it's unlock phone.
But I'm not sure about the AT&T and other carrier.

busta6975 said:
From my understanding that all nexus 6 are the same no matter what carrier you buy from or Google Play. I have Verizon. My question is.. If I buy from another carrier sprint or t-mobile and I just pop my sim in shouldn't Lte and everything else work? Or will the radio bands vary on different carriers?
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Yes, it will work if you buy from any carrier. The model droid-life received was a T-Mobile unit, but they confirmed it worked with Verizon, including 4G. (http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/)
I just got my pre-order in on Play Store.

vikramjatt11 said:
Yes, it will work if you buy from any carrier. The model droid-life received was a T-Mobile unit, but they confirmed it worked with Verizon, including 4G. (http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/)
I just got my pre-order in on Play Store.
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I don't see anywhere in the article or video where they say their N6 was a T-Mobile unit. I'd be interested to hear that vzw has imei numbers sold from T-Mobile white listed in vzw databases.
A N6 bought from play/moto/vzw should have their imei white listed for vzw, I just haven't heard that is the case with N6 sold by other carriers.
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MG386 said:
I don't see anywhere in the article or video where they say their N6 was a T-Mobile unit. I'd be interested to hear that vzw has imei numbers sold from T-Mobile white listed in vzw databases.
A N6 bought from play/moto/vzw should have their imei white listed for vzw, I just haven't heard that is the case with N6 sold by other carriers.
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In their unboxing video, you can see the box right before they open it. and it shows the phone is for t mobile. It says "T-MOB".

Wow, that's good news, thx.
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While it will work with other carriers, T-Mobile will not be selling the Nexus 6 right out at launch. Only new plan customers or current plan customers can purchase the N6 for the foreseeable future.
Your best bet is to wait for your carrier to come out with it, or try ordering from Google Play/Amazon.

Is the Nexus 6 compatible with LTE Advanced?

ee_981 said:
Is the Nexus 6 compatible with LTE Advanced?
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According this page, yes.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/verizon-lte-advanced-faqs/

vishousv said:
According this page, yes.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/verizon-lte-advanced-faqs/
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that was a two year old question asked in a two year old thread. you feel special now?
im not trying to put you down, seriously. its just that you brought up an old and dead thread, for absolutely no reason.

simms22 said:
that was a two year old question asked in a two year old thread. you feel special now?
im not trying to put you down, seriously. its just that you brought up an old and dead thread, for absolutely no reason.
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S***.....timing is everything! ????????????

vishousv said:
S***.....timing is everything! ????????????
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well, not always. but in this case it is

(Q) Buying a Nexus 6 at T-mobile to use at Verizon

Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?

rester555 said:
Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?
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No. Well you could but version probably won't authorize devices if the imei is not in their database.
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monkeypaws said:
No
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Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.

Probly not. But wait and see.

dualityim said:
Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.
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People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.

Joshnor713 said:
People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.
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We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.

dualityim said:
We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.
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Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.

Joshnor713 said:
Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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No all nexus are Sim unlocked.
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Joshnor713 said:
Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls

nexus6R3plicant said:
It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls
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Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.

Joshnor713 said:
Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.
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ExCtly. People are getting confused because of the pamphlets that have to logos but they are google play review units. They were probably google units going to Tmobile that had those pamphlets and were used as review units. That DOESNT mean they came from Tmobile which is a different thing. Plus you also have to consider that the persons Verizon Sim car is already provisioned. The real test is activating new new service with a new sim card.
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Yes, you guys have some valid points. I already have an activated sim and all I would need to do is pop mine in to a T-mobile phone to see if it works.
But speaking to the last post, it would be interesting to see if a new verizon sim would work with a t-mobile bought phone.

There are only 2 versions. ..... international and north American. .....not a t mobile sprint vzw etc they are the same

If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.

rester555 said:
If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.
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Uh no. That's not how it works.
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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monkeypaws said:
Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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This exactly.
Fact is if you want to use a Nexus 6 on VZW your best bet is to buy from Play Store, Amazon, Motorola Direct, Verizon upon release, etc but NOT from other carriers.
Also T-Mobile has confirmed that they will turn away anyone hoping to buy off contract at any of their stores on launch day. They want to give current customers and new service customers the first go at the device sale before expanding sales to a whole after the hype dies down on their customer end.

I was lucky enough to get an order in today on Motorola's site, but after watching the latest Droid-Life show I was left with a concern. Apparently we won't be able to use simultaneous voice and data. So say for example I'm on a call and want to look something up, unless I'm connected to a WiFi network I won't be able to do that. This is the case with the 2014 Moto X and the just released Droid Turbo. Those phones though are (according to Verizon) going to get an update before the years end to allow for VoLTE, which will fix this problem. The problem I see is that since this isn't a "Verizon" phone per say, how are we going to get that update? Are we going to be stuck not being able to use simultaneous voice and data? For once I thought we finally had a great Nexus phone on Verizon and now this news reminds me of why we haven't had a Nexus phone after the Galaxy Nexus.

I have been mainly using it with T-Mobile but have popped in a Verizon sim and got LTE service. Made a couple of calls, used the internet.

[Q] Nexus and IMEI ranges

Hey everyone,
Does anyone know if Amazon has it's own special set of IMEI ranges and if it does, the compatibility of that range? I've been doing a lot of research, but to no avail.
Perhaps the carriers have finally gotten mostly on board and this is no longer an issue?

tanpantsman said:
Hey everyone,
Does anyone know if Amazon has it's own special set of IMEI ranges and if it does, the compatibility of that range? I've been doing a lot of research, but to no avail.
Perhaps the carriers have finally gotten mostly on board and this is no longer an issue?
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I believe that Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't "white list" phones that aren't bought directly from them.

cam30era said:
I believe that Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't "white list" phones that aren't bought directly from them.
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No longer true
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akellar said:
No longer true
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So they now will supply SIM cards for non VZW purchased devices and give BYOD credit for Edge customers?

cam30era said:
So they now will supply SIM cards for non VZW purchased devices and give BYOD credit for Edge customers?
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Yep have for a couple months now
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akellar said:
Yep have for a couple months now
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I did not know that. Thanks for the info.

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So, given that, now all Nexus 6 devices, regardless of purchase location, now work with at least all 4 major carriers in the US? If that's the case, is there still an advantage to paying full price to get one directly from Google or Amazon, rather than free financing from any carrier?

tanpantsman said:
So, given that, now all Nexus 6 devices, regardless of purchase location, now work with at least all 4 major carriers in the US? If that's the case, is there still an advantage to paying full price to get one directly from Google or Amazon, rather than free financing from any carrier?
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Phones purchased from AT&T come "carrier locked" (i.e. SIM) to AT&T. You can get an unlock code from AT&T once the device is paid off.
The bootloader is unlockable (like all N6 devices), and you can flash any ROM. And they will work on any network once SIM unlocked from AT&T.

Ok, so I'm trying to put together a definitive statement for anyone else that finds this because I spent a lot of time not finding the answer and reading old news articles.
So, correct me if the following is wrong:
Any Nexus 6 purchased from any location will work on any major carrier, provided the device is sim unlocked eventually. Currently AT&T sim locks theirs, until you pay off the device. Therefore purchasing any used Nexus 6, provided a clean ESN and carrier unlocked, will also work on all major US carriers.
Is that all correct?

tanpantsman said:
Ok, so I'm trying to put together a definitive statement for anyone else that finds this because I spent a lot of time not finding the answer and reading old news articles.
So, correct me if the following is wrong:
Any Nexus 6 purchased from any location will work on any major carrier, provided the device is sim unlocked eventually. Currently AT&T sim locks theirs, until you pay off the device. Therefore purchasing any used Nexus 6, provided a clean ESN and carrier unlocked, will also work on all major US carriers.
Is that all correct?
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Yes, correct for XT1103 for North America. And XT1100 is for the rest of the world (I.e. non North America).

cam30era said:
Yes, correct for XT1103 for North America. And XT1100 is for the rest of the world (I.e. non North America).
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Awesome, thanks for your help everyone! I hope this is useful to future N6 buyers too.