[Q] Active Listening - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.

Do not think of the device as Moto X think of the device as nexus...aka PURE AND COMPLETE stock android. So anything you love about the MOto X odd of you finding it on N6 (unless n6) has it own version, you wont see it.
Hope that answer your question

Aw that's a bummer. There are some Moto apps on the playstore. Hopefully they are usable on the Nexus 6.

msal said:
Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more

The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.

ECrispy said:
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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Other than the ability to set a custom listing phrase, what are the "advanced listening features"?

charesa39 said:
http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
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In regards to the texting thing. I hope they fix it to use GV number with hangouts. With the nexus 5 if I use voice commands to send a text it uses my carrier number. Same with virtually every other app that sends stuff auto via text messages,

ECrispy said:
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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This is already available with the Google Launcher on my S4 (so long as the phone is charging). Time will tell if this is available on the Nexus 6 from idle when it's not charging.

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Android Lollipop taking advantage of DSP

So from what i can tell phones using DSP chips will be able to use ok google now from stock android. Our Moto X's do use that for the Motorola assist features. Does this mean that android lollipop could help go around moto assist? I don't like the delays that Moto assist comes with, and getting to use Google now through stock would be amazing. They only mention that Nexus 6 and 9, will be able to use it, but i don't see why our phone wouldn't be able to.
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
raze599 said:
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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Yes, assist can be disabled. The problem is because assist and the files for it are installed, it disables one from saying "ok, google" and letting google now take over. Assist needs to be on if you want to do voice related things. Unless I'm missing something, I haven't found a way to allow google now voice commands to work with assist on or off
sent from my Moto X (2014)
If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
MaKTaiL said:
If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
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ZeroAlphawolf said:
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
sent from my Nexus 7
0.0 said:
Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
sent from my Nexus 7
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I know that on the 2013 X this did not work. There is an internal, hidden config flag in Google Search that lists the devices on which hotword detection is permanently disabled -- meaning that nothing you did to to moto touchless controls would help.
That being said, there is an app out there, UnleashTheGoogle, that will un-hide all of the hidden settings in Google Search and then you can just remove your phone from the blacklist (if the '14 X is in there)
So after the recent Moto Voice update, i can't get the Google Now hot word Detection to work at all. Going into Google Settings to try to train it to listen to me, it won't activate the mic at all to listen to me, completely refuses too. Plus, to top it off, Moto Voice now says "Opening Google" Whenever it is too retarded to be able to do what i want it to with my voice, which is ridiculous. I Force closed Moto Voice, and the google now search bar had the mic showing that it was ready for voice. (The filled in one.) but did not respond to Ok Google, and by the time i went to train it, Moto Voice had restarted. I might try freezing Moto Voice with Titanium and seeing if i can get google now to work then. All in all, this is disappointing as it stands.
Ok! So Freezing the Moto Voice app did it for me. (That or yelling ok google at my phone for 5-10 minutes in the training voice part of Google Now Voice Settings.) Regardless i can activate Ok Google again from any screen. Though, my Google Now Settings includes the check box for google searching from the Lock Screen, it doesn't seem to work. That might come with Lollipop proper... -crosses fingers.
Edit: It will allow it to Google Search from lockscreen , But not with sound off... that is the feature that might come with Lollipop.

[Q] Disable Moto Voice in favor of Google Now

Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
Tykin said:
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
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it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
cortez.i said:
it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
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That will disable the voice wake. I'm looking for a way to jump straight into Google Now anytime I say my Moto Voice launch phrase.
OK, yeah that's different. Interpreted that you wanted to just go to Google Now. With my suggestion, saying "OK Google" takes you to Google Now (vs your moto launch phase).
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Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
ZeroAlphawolf said:
Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
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can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
cortez.i said:
can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
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Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
ZeroAlphawolf said:
Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
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Thanks! Now I need to figure out if I want to root my phone now or wait for L and Xposed to run on ART.
Lollipop is supposed to be able to do ok google from screen off with phones using the always listening chips. The nexus 6 and 9 are supposed to use it with theirs. I'm still hoping that our moto's well be able to use it as part of stock android so i don't have to use moto voice at all. Only i don't know if they intend to add custom phrase support, which i could stand losing. Though i concur about ART xposed, that i can't wait for.

[Q] Does the Nexus 6 have "Caller ID by Google"?

"Caller ID by Google" was among my favorite KitKat features, and Google's new "Quick Start Guide" to Lollipop implies that the Nexus 6 isn't getting it: "On Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 only, Caller ID by Google identifies inbound and outbound numbers, even for callers not saved as contacts in the Contacts app." It seems bizarre that Google wouldn't give this feature to the Nexus 6. Does anyone know for sure whether the Nexus 6 has KitKat's Caller ID feature?
Thanks, Alan
carrot34 said:
"Caller ID by Google" was among my favorite KitKat features, and Google's new "Quick Start Guide" to Lollipop implies that the Nexus 6 isn't getting it: "On Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 only, Caller ID by Google identifies inbound and outbound numbers, even for callers not saved as contacts in the Contacts app." It seems bizarre that Google wouldn't give this feature to the Nexus 6. Does anyone know for sure whether the Nexus 6 has KitKat's Caller ID feature?
Thanks, Alan
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Its built into the dialer app and it worked on my G3 when I used the google dialer so I don't see why it wouldn't.
Thanks! That's good to know. Yeah, it works on the Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition too. So I don't see why the Nexus 6 wouldn't have it. But it's weird that the manual makes such a deliberate point of saying that it's only on the Nexus 4 and 5.
Alan
carrot34 said:
Thanks! That's good to know. Yeah, it works on the Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition too. So I don't see why the Nexus 6 wouldn't have it. But it's weird that the manual makes such a deliberate point of saying that it's only on the Nexus 4 and 5.
Alan
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I could be wrong but when it was installed on my G3 it would tell me who was calling even if I didn't know they number. It took some work to install the dialer but it matches up with what you said. If I can find the apk again on my SD card I'll install it and upload some screen shots.

"Ok google" with screen off while unplugged? (Lollipop)

Is there a way to get this feature working like it does on the Nex6?
Currently (with all the Moto crap disabled) I can only get this functionality while plugged in.
Did they kill the feature in the lollipop build so we'd be forced to use their junkie Moto Voice hand-off system?
The.Yield said:
Is there a way to get this feature working like it does on the Nex6?
Currently (with all the Moto crap disabled) I can only get this functionality while plugged in.
Did they kill the feature in the lollipop build so we'd be forced to use their junkie Moto Voice hand-off system?
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I can't speak for the specific version of Google Search that you have, but for versions on the '13 X, they have hotword detection completely disabled.
It turns out there is an internal flag to blacklist devices from turning on the option. I think more recently the version on the 13 allows hotword but does not allow the "from any screen" nor "while screen is off" options.
You used to be able to edit the flags with "unleash the google" But I don't know of this still works and it no longer maps all the settings to their names (meaning you just see config 1 config 2,etc)
OK Google works from any screen and while device off.
Make sure OK Google Detection is turned ON for any screen and off.
You prefer Google voice search over Moto Voice? Why?
martinezma99 said:
OK Google works from any screen and while device off.
Make sure OK Google Detection is turned ON for any screen and off.
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Do you have a link to a source/video showing that this works on the Moto X 2014?
zgroten said:
You prefer Google voice search over Moto Voice? Why?
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Because the response is much faster without the Moto middleware. I'm pissed that they disabled it. Why shouldn't I have a choice???
l_stevens said:
Because the response is much faster without the Moto middleware. I'm pissed that they disabled it. Why shouldn't I have a choice???
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I feel exactly the same way. Exactly.
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"Hey Google" on Note 8

I'm just curious why the Note 8 has to use only OK Google and can't use Hey Google for waking up Google assistant. I really liked it when the option became available for my Note 5. Now its gone.... is it maybe because of Bixby? Doesn't seem like it would be the reason because we had S voice on the note 5 and they never conflicted.
I don't remember the option to be able to use "Hey Google" instead of "Ok Google" on my Note 5. But then again I never really used Google Assistant.
I just looked at my Note 5, I don't see that option, was that able to be changed using the Retrain Voice Model option? If yes, that option is still there on my Note 8, just in a different menu.
shouren04 said:
I don't remember the option to be able to use "Hey Google" instead of "Ok Google" on my Note 5. But then again I never really used Google Assistant.
I just looked at my Note 5, I don't see that option, was that able to be changed using the Retrain Voice Model option? If yes, that option is still there on my Note 8, just in a different menu.
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Nope when you retrain the voice model, it only accepts OK Google....trust me.
gregcapps said:
Nope when you retrain the voice model, it only accepts OK Google....trust me.
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Yea its aggravating. Too bad it couldn't be like the gear s3 and train it to wake up on whatever command you want.
I'm following this thread... I was thinking that the 'hey google' option was now available with the upgrade to Android 8.
mkclarke said:
I'm following this thread... I was thinking that the 'hey google' option was now available with the upgrade to Android 8.
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Nope. Irritating.
@Venom0642 do you have any idea why there's no option to use the hey Google wake up command for Google assistant on the note 8. Makes no sense to me. It's a more advanced device yet somehow it can't handle that?? Yet the Note5 could?
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You should be able to. However I'm using a Pixel 2 XL that might make a difference
I'm guessing it's because they don't want it confusing "Hey Bixby" or their marketing team think they need to keep some sort of distance between the two assistants.
wnp_79 said:
I'm guessing it's because they don't want it confusing "Hey Bixby" or their marketing team think they need to keep some sort of distance between the two assistants.
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Well....it worked with Svoice just fine. The wake up command for Bixby is "Hi Bixby" which can't be customized either. Which is also a step backwards from Svoice, because I could set the wakeup to anything I wanted on my Note5.
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In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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The s9 recently got the "hey google" as a wake up command..... so here's hoping it comes soon since the note 8 follows the s9 in some respects.
HyperEscape said:
In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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Just fyi, I've finally got the hey google hot word to work. I'm on CRJ3 currently. I had retrain the voice model. I tried just saying Hey Google on the last two and now it works great.

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