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Gear 2 now that Android wear is out.... #failboat

So I bought a Neo and played around with it on my work Note 3. It has fair amount of apps. Well today I bought a S5 Active. I moved my Neo over to it (requires reseting it.) and got gear manager installed. Surprise to me... It seems even though things like the clock face is an app that runs on the phone if the developer doesn't select that it works with a phone you can't use it. Which should be a simple change for most things however it doesn't seem that developers update their Samsung store apps. For the S5 active there are only a handful of apps even though I am sure 99% all the apps would work if the dev would click the "it works with an s5 active"
After dealing with Samsung support (or the lack of it) I tried to get on the Samsung app store webpage. It seems they are having server errors so it was been working like crap. I was kind of able to get contacts for a couple of the app dev's to ask that they update their app to work with the S5 active. Samsung app store doesn't provide contact information unless the dev adds it. One of the devs linked to his google+ page. Which showed he is working to get the same app with improvements to work on android wear.
This got me thinking. Who is going to mess with this crappy half baked Samsung store with Google coming out with Wear? I'd guess we won't see anyone making new Apps for the tizen watches, they don't even update it to work with new phones it will run on with no changes...
I just got the Neo and I am on the fence of returning it. I figured I could get by with apps I had on the Note 3 until someone got a Wear rom for it. With the lack of apps when paired with the s5 I am not impressed at all and after my research today I am liking it less. I got it over the wear because it was only 150bucks vs 225, it has a speaker and IR blaster and Android wear is lacking in features (sure to change in 6 months to a year). I figured by the time wear got up to speed there would be a rom. Thinking about it some I am doubtful, I think the speaker and IR blaster (camera if it is a gear 2) will prevent it from ever happening. None of the wear watches have these so I'd guess there isn't low level support.
I guess I need to return it and wait for the 360 come out.

I had the same problem with my active. I modified the build prop to identify my device as a regular s5 and have all the apps again.

Root required?
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WiFivomFranMan said:
Root required?
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yeah

lordmorphous said:
yeah
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What did you use as your spoofed device?

WiFivomFranMan said:
What did you use as your spoofed device?
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I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A

I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great

slaydog said:
I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great
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I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.

lordmorphous said:
I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A
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when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?

treezy26 said:
when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?
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Phone is rooted, not the watch. I rooted by using towelroot. Look in the particular forum for your phone for instruction, I don't want to give bad advice.

I understand how to root. My question now is, will this work with any phone?
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yopiggy said:
I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.
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Haha lucky me i kept my my original GG my Neo and also have the Live... Yup the live is super boring compared to the GG or Neo
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Galaxy Gear 1

Does anyone know if the Gear 1 works with our Note 4?
Been looking around and it seems it doesn't, but wanted to double check.
I can but one from a friend for $80 right now, but it doesn't do me any good if I can't link the two.
Thanks

Working perfectly here, Bluetooth tethering from my note 4. Running Null 23.

getbuzzin said:
Working perfectly here, Bluetooth tethering from my note 4. Running Null 23.
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Huh? Can you explain that lol. What's Null 23?

Oh ok, nvm. So your gear is rooted...
And null 23 is the rom. So stock I can't, but rooted I can correct?

Null 23 here too. Works great. Never tried with the stock ROM, sorry. Might ask in the Gear forum too.

Running my Gear 1 (with Tizen) with my Note 4 (stock ROM unrooted). I got my Gear 1 after I had my Note 4. The Gear 1 stock ROM was Android and would not pair with my Note 4. After flashing Tizen, I've had a flawless experience.
My recommendation: if you are willing to flash the Gear 1 with Samsung's Tizen ROM, definitely go for it.

Working perfectly for me and my gear 1 isn't rooted.

jrocks213 said:
Working perfectly for me and my gear 1 isn't rooted.
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So it's working stock for you?

I had null rom 23 on mine and even with stock rom the auto unlock feature doesn't work. So I upgraded to tizen and now everything is working. Also battery last longer on tizen.

Totally stock on both, works fine for me. I never did the Tizen upgrade though but it shouldn't make a difference.

ThC23 said:
So it's working stock for you?
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Yes it was working stock. I rooted my note 4 and works as well. No problems here. You can see my watch paired.

I have both, stock, and they connect fine...
Kinda sorta unsatisfied with some of the options, though. The lack of app variety (paid and otherwise, there are a metric ton of clock faces and, apparantly, not much else that I could work with), is leaning me heavily towards Android Wear at the moment. (Especially considering Tockle, which can interact with Tasker, doesn't seem to have an equivalent on the Gear's ecosystem. With the Gear, I'd likely have to use LaunchGear or Wearable Widgets for a similar effect.)
Still doing research on that, though.

I screwed up. I bought the Gear 2 Neo & thought it would work with Nexus 5 Lollipop

I screwed up. I bought the Gear 2 Neo & thought it would work with Nexus 5 Lollipop
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.

carpediem said:
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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Use the gear manager v1.2. Some reported that it works with lollipop. But I have not tried it.

crime_of_heart said:
Use the gear manager v1.2. Some reported that it works with lollipop. But I have not tried it.
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I tried 1.2 but it didn't seem to connect to the Neo. BT connected, but the manager timed out.

TeaPotDev said:
I tried 1.2 but it didn't seem to connect to the Neo. BT connected, but the manager timed out.
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Wait for Gear Manager Lollipop edition. Starting this month, it will come to S5, so automaticaly will update Gear Manager. Be patient, it will work soon. Worth a try...

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Wait for Gear Manager Lollipop edition. Starting this month, it will come to S5, so automaticaly will update Gear Manager. Be patient, it will work soon. Worth a try...
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How likely is it? Is using Gear Manager a compromise compared to Android Wear?
Would it be better to just sell the watch and get one that is more compatible?

carpediem said:
How likely is it? Is using Gear Manager a compromise compared to Android Wear?
Would it be better to just sell the watch and get one that is more compatible?
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For now does't work, i must back to 4.4.4 becouse with S4 5.02 not work. Terrible

carpediem said:
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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I tried it on a very early alpha version of lollipop on my Samsung device and it worked. But I hate to burst your bubble, it will be at least another couple of months until it is stable and more generally available. It relies heavy on gear manager which relies on the touchwiz environment. Why, for Pete's sake, this route was chosen is maybe one of Samsung's downfalls. Within two years they will be out of the market if they keep going with their business model, this consumer market does not care, but like you, will remember. Examples of such electronic giants reduced to rubble? Nokia, Nortel, Blackberry
Consumers want stuff to work, simple without all these prerequisites that are in fine print.
Tbh you are best of selling or donate it to a family member with a Samsung phone that has to be running Jellybean 4.3 or KitKat. Preferably a galaxy phone so S4, Note3, ß5 or Note4. Others.... Will not work without breaking their OS
Sad but true

Anyone tried Gear 2 Neo to see if it works with the newly pushed Android 5.0.1 on i9500 and i9506?
I'm curious if it will work from day 1 on i9505 when 5.0.1 will be pushed to these devices.
Thanks!

I have i9506, nordic edition and gear 2 neo, and they work together. Even better than on Kitkat, as s health was not receiving the Gear data for pedometer and such.
Now even that works. My s4 on the otherhand is laggy as hell with 5.0.1 , but that is not the issue here

I've installed i9505 5.0.1 and Samsung Gear doesn't work anymore. When started, it blinks a 1-2 times and crashes silently. I cannot connect to the watch with anything else (Android Wear for ex.) either.
Any ideas?
Later edit: I enabled bluetooth debug in Android Wear and tried several more times to connect through S-Gear and now it seems it connected and is trying to install additional software... hope it works out.
Haha, phone did a factory reset on the watch and now I'm trying again to connect to it .
Later edit: after managing to soft brick my phone, I reinstalled the 5.0.1 and this time, amazingly enough, Samsung Gear worked as it was supposed to so my watch is back to normal functions again.

nexus 5
so is it possible to pair gear2 with nexus 5 on android 5.1.1?

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so is it possible to pair gear2 with nexus 5 on android 5.1.1?
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I'd also like to know this? I see the posts on this thread were few months ago, so I wonder if within these months there is any solution for this?
Also wheret o get the said gear manager app? How about the android wear app?
Thanks in advantage.

KassieMB said:
I'd also like to know this? I see the posts on this thread were few months ago, so I wonder if within these months there is any solution for this?
Also wheret o get the said gear manager app? How about the android wear app?
Thanks in advantage.
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Hello,
I tried every possible thing I found on the internet. Even went to change the name of the phone and model in /system files, without any success. I did manage, after downgrading to 4.4.4 to connect to the gear 2 neo, but I couldn't use any of it's features except answering the phone via the watch. I'm thinking maybe I can change the ROM of the watch to tizen and then make a connection with android wear. I searched but didn't find anyone who did this on gear 2 neo. Theoretically, it should work. I will post if I manage to do something.
Cheers,
Alex

hashde said:
Hello,
I tried every possible thing I found on the internet. Even went to change the name of the phone and model in /system files, without any success. I did manage, after downgrading to 4.4.4 to connect to the gear 2 neo, but I couldn't use any of it's features except answering the phone via the watch. I'm thinking maybe I can change the ROM of the watch to tizen and then make a connection with android wear. I searched but didn't find anyone who did this on gear 2 neo. Theoretically, it should work. I will post if I manage to do something.
Cheers,
Alex
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Answering calls work with Lollipop too,just pair watch in Bluetooth settings. Second... You should install Android rom on watch,not Tizen. There is also Android Wear mod possibility... Roms for Gear 2 should also work on Neo (except camera)
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Samsung Gear. Tizen or Android?

Hi. Bought a Galaxy Gear 1. It's still on Android at the moment. Is it worth upgrading to Tizen? Are there any major advantages or disadvantages? Thanks

Battery is better on Tizen and there are more apps from the store. But it looks like Android is the only way to get it working with Lollipop at least with non Samsung phones.

Thanks for the reply. I'll do a bit more research. I read you can revert back to android but is that 100% or just if your lucky.
Thanks

android
I would say android all the way. I have tried tizen and didn't last long before downgrading. Android has a lot more apps available from play store and is much more versatile. Better battery on tizen perhaps but you can always clock the speed down on android which helps.

b_kennedy said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll do a bit more research. I read you can revert back to android but is that 100% or just if your lucky.
Thanks
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I have done it honestly 30 times or more, it works 100% but you have to follow the directions to a T otherwise you end up with touch not working. If that happens just start over, it's happened to me a few times by not booting to recovery.

joesnose said:
I would say android all the way. I have tried tizen and didn't last long before downgrading. Android has a lot more apps available from play store and is much more versatile. Better battery on tizen perhaps but you can always clock the speed down on android which helps.
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The Gear I has been on Tizen since July of 2014; almost a year. Do any of the original third party Android apps even still work? I'd imagine Samsung's work to some extent but even they'll sunset as Android isn't a supported OS for the Gear I any longer. If someone's using a Gear with a non-Samsung phone I guess that's different because it's kind of "franken-phone" set up any way. But with all the cheap Android Wear options available that really do work with any Android phone it seems kind of illogical to cling to a Samsung-biased device anyway.

jelly bean
Null ROM is jellybean, jellybean is still very much supported. Just install play store and you have just about any app availiable , screen size permitting.

I think that Android, null rom, have no support for NOTIFICATIONS if Lollipop is on the phone (Note 3). No way to make them work, for me. Tried a lot of Gear Manager versions... :/

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I think that Android, null rom, have no support for NOTIFICATIONS if Lollipop is on the phone (Note 3). No way to make them work, for me. Tried a lot of Gear Manager versions... :/
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hi ,
i find it strange ,that you are struggling to get it to work ?
My setup is Note 4 ( N910F ) Lollipop v 5.0.1 and my Gear Null ROM ..i have no problems with notifications from Note 4 /Gear .. .Gear manager v 1.8.022599, works 100%, no issues
Been using above combo for long time .
good luck

But he probably didn't check notification access in settings...
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But he probably didn't check notification access in settings...
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I got some real over heating problems with using null 23 Rom for the Samsung gear 1. It continued to get really hot on my wrist and also displayed and over heating icon while charging. It have me hell to revert back to stock android, but I did. Dont know if I did something wrong but I did not try it again.

Very happy with Tizen.
I had such hi hopes for my gear but the app store was hopeless with the exception of watchstyler, upgraded to Tizen 3 days ago and can not believe the difference, Tizen really gives the gear wings. The watch faces in the Tizen app store are REALLY nice and I now have the apps I need, calender, calculater, flashlight and an app that lets me see on my watch through my phones camera. Not sure about the battery life but am so pleased to have upgraded.

James Bond Clock theme

I am a great fan of James Bond movies. As I have a smartwatch I would like to have a Clock in it with a JB look and feel.
Someting with a text of a movie or the DB5-car in it.
Is there anything?

i want it too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnyXS1lEw8I

Install from the Play Store the app "Watchmaker Premium" and you can design your own watchface.
But you can also download a lot of smartfaces from the internet, created by others.
Like these ones here : https://facerepo.com/app/search/results?sortOrder=relevance&query=james+bond&page=1

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Install from the Play Store the app "Watchmaker Premium" and you can design your own watchface.
But you can also download a lot of smartfaces from the internet, created by others.
Like these ones here : https://facerepo.com/app/search/results?sortOrder=relevance&query=james+bond&page=1
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all these faces are for android wear are they not ?

nexy33 said:
all these faces are for android wear are they not ?
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Yes, they are.
You can flash Android Wear onto your Gear 2 Neo
(I did that on my Gear 2 and it works very well).

how well does android wear run on the gear2 neo and can you go back to stock tizen is it buggy does it offer more features ?
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Android Wear runs really smooth and stable on the Gear 2 (and Neo).
It is far more customizable than Tizen and it has more apps to use in the Play Store.
The last stable and full version is based on Android 5.1.1, but there is also a version 6.0.1 which is currently in beta and in development. But I have the beta 2 running and it works really well.
Try it and you won't be disappointed. And you can turn back to Tizen if you want to.
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there is also a goldeneye themed watchface for tizen based watch ROMs. Its pretty dope.
@speedme How long is the battery life on android wear on the G2N?

youdoofus said:
there is also a goldeneye themed watchface for tizen based watch ROMs. Its pretty dope.
@speedme How long is the battery life on android wear on the G2N?
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I get easily 3 days with moderate use.
But that is with screen and gestures turned off.
The screen will only lid up for a few seconds when a new notification arrives.
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Oh, right on. I've been reading that Android wear has such a terrible battery life, hence the reason I haven't used it yet. Good to know that you can disable the always-on feature. Do you have a link for what you used to install it?
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Oh, right on. I've been reading that Android wear has such a terrible battery life, hence the reason I haven't used it yet. Good to know that you can disable the always-on feature. Do you have a link for what you used to install it?
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Yes, you can find the latest version here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/development/please-help-kernel-compiling-android-t2992953
There are installation guides on Youtube, it's actually very simple.
And you can return to Tizen if it turns out that you don't like AW.

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Yes, you can find the latest version here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/development/please-help-kernel-compiling-android-t2992953
There are installation guides on Youtube, it's actually very simple.
And you can return to Tizen if it turns out that you don't like AW.
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i did end up finding a thread with the AW tar.md5 and i flashed it in odin. It booted, did the synch thing (took a while, but thats understandable) and eventually got the the GUI. All well and good, it was pretty responsive and looked really cool, but it wouldnt synch with the android wear app on my phone. The apk on the phone wouldnt find the device, but i could pair it via bluetooth settings, so i know that the bluetooth functionality was working on the watch and the phone, just not within the app. I uninstalled and reinstalled it, no change. Rebooted both devices, no change. I even factory reset my phone and reinstalled the app, no change. So i ended up restoring the tizen rom. Luckily, i made a root gear 2 neo thread because the restore tar.md5 provided in the AW thread didnt work, but mine did

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i did end up finding a thread with the AW tar.md5 and i flashed it in odin. It booted, did the synch thing (took a while, but thats understandable) and eventually got the the GUI. All well and good, it was pretty responsive and looked really cool, but it wouldnt synch with the android wear app on my phone. The apk on the phone wouldnt find the device, but i could pair it via bluetooth settings, so i know that the bluetooth functionality was working on the watch and the phone, just not within the app. I uninstalled and reinstalled it, no change. Rebooted both devices, no change. I even factory reset my phone and reinstalled the app, no change. So i ended up restoring the tizen rom. Luckily, i made a root gear 2 neo thread because the restore tar.md5 provided in the AW thread didnt work, but mine did
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Did you use the ZIP file from the thread I posted earlier ?
Because there is the latest version (4th of March release).
You flash the file in ODIN indeed and then it takes a while for the rom to boot up.
After that, follow the instructions on the screen of the watch.
The only thing you have to look out for, is that you use the AW app on your phone to pair the phone with the watch.
Do not pair it directly in the BT settings.
If you had your watch paired once before in the AW app, you have to "forget watch" in the AW app first, because the AW app then "holds" the watch but will never connect.
I don't know exactly what went wrong with your flash, but I would suggest not to give up so easily and try it again.
For any help, you can use the thread I posted earlier.
And also use Youtube to actually seeing how to install the AW rom onto your Gear 2 Neo.
Good luck.

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Did you use the ZIP file from the thread I posted earlier ?
Because there is the latest version (4th of March release).
You flash the file in ODIN indeed and then it takes a while for the rom to boot up.
After that, follow the instructions on the screen of the watch.
The only thing you have to look out for, is that you use the AW app on your phone to pair the phone with the watch.
Do not pair it directly in the BT settings.
If you had your watch paired once before in the AW app, you have to "forget watch" in the AW app first, because the AW app then "holds" the watch but will never connect.
I don't know exactly what went wrong with your flash, but I would suggest not to give up so easily and try it again.
For any help, you can use the thread I posted earlier.
And also use Youtube to actually seeing how to install the AW rom onto your Gear 2 Neo.
Good luck.
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I'll give it another whirl this weekend. I'd love to have aw on my watch as I'd like to run a cm ROM and Samsung gear manager doesn't work on cm. Also, I initially paired it in bt settings, then unpaired it and it still didn't work. Then I even reflagged the aw ROM on the watch and redid the process and it wouldn't pair. I'm not a newb, and I know I followed the instructions to a t, but it could have been a bad download. I'll not give up! I just haven't had time to readdress it yet. 3 day weekend should allow for it tho

Thanks man. It was just a bad version of AW. I downloaded the most recent one from March, and it's working like a charm!! I'm just going to hafta familiarize myself with AW vs tizen. Thanks again man!
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So, it's working quite well, just one thing. Can you not answer calls on this ROM? I can't seem to find where to enable that

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So, it's working quite well, just one thing. Can you not answer calls on this ROM? I can't seem to find where to enable that
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Correct, currently you can't make calls on the watch (using the watch microphone and speaker).
The developer of the AW port (Biktor_gj) still needs to work this out.
However, he's recently became a dad of a beautiful daughter....so his spare time is now taken up by her (which is of course logical).
But you should be able to at least answer the call (swipe to answer) and take the call on your phone.

Right on. Thanks!
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